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Allied player Alaska Cold Zone Strategy - 12/2/2009 4:53:35 AM   
Buck Beach

 

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Looking as to how you other players handle Alaska between November through February. Do you curtail activities and if so, how much? How much resupplying do you do? Do you approach those months as just the cost of doing business with regards to damages and supply costs?

Interested in both AI and PBEM players.

How about you Japanese players. Do you conduct sub activities and what has been your experience with success and operational damage.

Anybody know what was happening in RL during those periods?
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RE: Allied player Alaska Cold Zone Strategy - 12/2/2009 5:08:09 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Buck Beach

Looking as to how you other players handle Alaska between November through February. Do you curtail activities and if so, how much? How much resupplying do you do? Do you approach those months as just the cost of doing business with regards to damages and supply costs?

Interested in both AI and PBEM players.

How about you Japanese players. Do you conduct sub activities and what has been your experience with success and operational damage.

Anybody know what was happening in RL during those periods?


I am generally more worried about the sub threat to merchies than anything else. But I don't send ships to Nome until spring out of a sense of respect.

Prior to the latest patch I was using Dutch Harbor as a sub base against that AI's Home Islands, and that worked out pretty well so long as I had the subs moving to Dutch Harbor disbanded or turned around close to their arrival. Otherwise they tended to stack up enough damage to send them back to Victoria.

Now I am back in December '41 so I can't say how it will work out under the new system.

I don't know about real life in WWII but I have worked with one or two people that sailed in those waters. If you can believe sea stories, it seems like the kind of place that could take your mind off the war.

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RE: Allied player Alaska Cold Zone Strategy - 12/2/2009 9:43:14 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Central Blue


quote:

ORIGINAL: Buck Beach

Looking as to how you other players handle Alaska between November through February. Do you curtail activities and if so, how much? How much resupplying do you do? Do you approach those months as just the cost of doing business with regards to damages and supply costs?

Interested in both AI and PBEM players.

How about you Japanese players. Do you conduct sub activities and what has been your experience with success and operational damage.

Anybody know what was happening in RL during those periods?


I am generally more worried about the sub threat to merchies than anything else. But I don't send ships to Nome until spring out of a sense of respect.

Prior to the latest patch I was using Dutch Harbor as a sub base against that AI's Home Islands, and that worked out pretty well so long as I had the subs moving to Dutch Harbor disbanded or turned around close to their arrival. Otherwise they tended to stack up enough damage to send them back to Victoria.

Now I am back in December '41 so I can't say how it will work out under the new system.

I don't know about real life in WWII but I have worked with one or two people that sailed in those waters. If you can believe sea stories, it seems like the kind of place that could take your mind off the war.


IRL it was definitely cold during the winter, but the warm-water Japanese current that curls past the Aleutians keeps it from being unbearably, arctic cold. IRL, the US Army started construction on new bases at Umnak (difficult, because it had no natural harbor, and they had to ship everything over from Dutch Harbor by barge) and Cold Harbor during the winter, and shipped substantial reinforcements up from the West Coast.

Operationally, IRL the biggest problem in the Aleutians wasn't the winter cold, or even the willawaws -- gale-force winds that can blow for several days at a time -- but the year-round fog, which made it impossible to fly two days out of three, and led to high operational losses of aircraft. IIRC, the fog was/is worst in the Spring. I wish we could have modelled the northern fog, instead of the "northern cold" in AE -- but that was out-of-scope.

Re: Nome. Nice touch. The winter ice packs expands to just north of the Aleutians, and retreats in the summer to what you see on the game map. IRL The winter ice also blocks access to the Kamchatka Peninsula and the Kuriles north of Etorofu. Something else that it would be nice to model in the game, someday.

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RE: Allied player Alaska Cold Zone Strategy - 12/2/2009 9:58:11 AM   
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I've taken over 2 islands (I think Adak and Kiska) and established them as bases for the subs in the area. Moved a regiment of Infantry + AA + Base forces with high Naval support and send 2 - 3 substantial convoys and hopefully Adak can be turned into a decent bomber base in 43 as well.

How do people use Nome? I always move the units there to the islands because I think its no use.  

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RE: Allied player Alaska Cold Zone Strategy - 12/2/2009 9:44:12 PM   
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I tend to load up on supplies at those bases in the months prior to the big freeze, and try not to send convoys that way during the winter months. Air units and subs that are based there just have to perform as best they can...

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