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Preliminary looking for Japs to 2 vs 2 game - 10/12/2009 6:08:33 PM   
Barb


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I am preliminary looking for two Jap players dedicated to play the grand campaign to the (bitter) end.

I am interested in playing multiplayer campaign game for a long time, but I was waiting for AE to come out and now waiting for patch no2.

I am fairly skilled and higly motivated allied player with experience begining with UV, then WITP - I played three PBEMs until now, unfortunately all of them come to the end when my oponents quit unsuspectedly.
I have a friend who is noob, but is interested in playing the game - this way I could guide and advice him better then playing against him.

Biggest advantages I see in 2 vs 2 game are:
1. if one of the player drops out (temporarily or definitely) the other is able to continue with the game
2. divided command responsibilities (as to exact dividing this should be a matter of debate)

I think the best opponents should be from America or Japan. As me and my friend are in +1 timezone (Central Europe) and usually have time to play in the evening, the other team could be playing in their own evening. With this set-up we can even manage 1 turn per day.

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RE: Preliminary looking for Japs to 2 vs 2 game - 10/14/2009 7:10:53 PM   
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RE: Preliminary looking for Japs to 2 vs 2 game - 10/15/2009 11:01:01 AM   
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I'd be interested, but i'm from Central Europe too....and I've never played a PBEM before :).

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RE: Preliminary looking for Japs to 2 vs 2 game - 10/15/2009 7:17:11 PM   
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What are your experiences against AI? Have you played Japs? What is your experience with WITP or AE so far?
I have had a look on Japs and it is pretty arduous to have everything sorted, clear, and planned from the begining.

PS: In fact playing myself as Japan against my noob friend as allies is the second possibility, in case the attempt for 2vs2 game will not be succesfull.


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RE: Preliminary looking for Japs to 2 vs 2 game - 10/15/2009 9:37:25 PM   
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Status: offline 		Well, I played the GC against the allies in witp well into '44, with automatic victory in '43. (My only game, because i bought the game last year :) )

In AE i'm in '42 april currently, and I think I'm beginning to grasp the way the Jap economy should be handled, but there is still a lot to learn :), and I do learn something new every 10 turns or so :D.

So i would say i'm fairly experienced against the ai, but pbem is a different matter entirely...

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RE: Preliminary looking for Japs to 2 vs 2 game - 10/16/2009 7:10:40 PM   
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Play to the end.

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RE: Preliminary looking for Japs to 2 vs 2 game - 10/16/2009 7:40:38 PM   
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Well this could make a nice 2 vs 2 game... on each side one "more experienced" and one "newbie". The friend that will be playing with me has a nick winchi (he is not very active on the forum, but I am speaking with him on skype daily).

1. What is your normal "playing" time realted to Greenwich time?
I and winchi are customarily able to play in 20-24PM timeframe, weekends vary.

2. What are your custom settings or special House Rules preferred for a game?

3. We should wait for Patch 2 before we begin our game. I hope there will be restricted areas :)

4. Think about what responsibility division "lines" would you like to follow. Branch, compact area, mixed areas, or some else?

5. Think about what "gameplay" do you like to follow - more/less historical, pushing the limits, ...

In the begining we could communicate here, the later communication about details by mail.

Thanks for answering the call.


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RE: Preliminary looking for Japs to 2 vs 2 game - 10/16/2009 7:42:10 PM   
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RE: Preliminary looking for Japs to 2 vs 2 game - 10/16/2009 8:13:21 PM   
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1.Playing time : any free time.

2.The surprise attacks.

3.We wait.

4.I can take the Jap China and India Armies.

5.Depends on my partner.

John

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RE: Preliminary looking for Japs to 2 vs 2 game - 10/16/2009 8:34:08 PM   
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Status: offline 		1: My free time varies thoughout the week, but I will most certanly have time for a minimum of 1 turn/day

2: Do you mean the realism options? If so, variable reinforcements on extreme, and player defined upgrades on. This also answers your fifth question: I'd like to bring the most out of the japs. But if we agree on a more historical setup, that's fine too...

3: Yes, we should definitely wait

4: I love china too :), but I guess IJN remains for me then(which i like much more then china :D)....I think the best division would be the "traditional" IJA "vs" IJN one, I think it would be easier to manage, but i'm open to suggestions ;)

5: Pushing the limits if possible :). This also means that i'd like to play on scen 2.


And I'd also like to play it to the bitter end.

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RE: Preliminary looking for Japs to 2 vs 2 game - 10/16/2009 8:45:26 PM   
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Status: offline 		2. hmm, I dont like extreme reinforcements too much. Imagine two crucial american carriers delayed for two months ... I like fixed or 15 days

4. Well, I am still thinking about Allied one. I have to talk about this with winchi. Basic division should be POA, SWPAC, SEA, CHINA + Russia as bonus ... I will talk to him in an our or so.
5. If possible I do like scenario 1, as I dont like Japanese New Zealand by april much... What does Antrax thing about this? I will have to check what exactly the scen 2 has as a bonus..


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RE: Preliminary looking for Japs to 2 vs 2 game - 10/16/2009 9:03:04 PM   
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Status: offline 		Hmmm... as far as i know in scen 2 there are more resources stockpiled, and higher experience for new pilots (also more pilots in the pool overall).
35 exp (both IJA and IJN) in scen 1 from '41 to '46
vs
40 (IJA) and 50 (IJN) in '41 and '42.
40 and 45 in '43
40 and 40 in '44
37 and 40 in '45

I actually consider this a (bit) better overall representation of jap pilot training(in terms of exp), then the one in scen 1.

BTW imagine those carriers 60 days earlier :) that's not bad, right? :D

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RE: Preliminary looking for Japs to 2 vs 2 game - 10/16/2009 9:04:36 PM   
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Status: offline 		Mi final words:

1.Playing time:any free time.

2.As historical as can be with the surprise attacks on Pearl and the rest of their corrupt empire.

3.We can start now ,as a try pre-game to seee some different things.
And we restart ,with or without adjustments after the update.

4.I want the IJN.
The Carriers are Japan's only chance down there.
The IJN can defeat any opponent the first year.

5.I wxould like scen 2 as it gives the Japs a chance to stay in the war.

Till the last Jap,I'm ready.

John

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RE: Preliminary looking for Japs to 2 vs 2 game - 10/16/2009 9:12:15 PM   
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Status: offline 		2: Historical it is then...

3: I agree with this one

4: And with this one too, the more experienced player should have the most important assets of our Empire :)
So as a starter you are fine with a clear cut IJA/IJN division? Then I'll happily take IJA :). What about industry then?

5: Couldn't agree more...

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RE: Preliminary looking for Japs to 2 vs 2 game - 10/16/2009 9:22:49 PM   
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Status: offline 		Antrax: What about fixed/variable reinforcements?
I fear variables because that could mean Task forces that arrived together (like CV+Escorts) or Important Convoy (troops and their cargo ships) arrives months apart.

3. Planning could be started, but there is one thing about Patch. Once you have started a game, only game mechanics will be affected by Patch. So we will have to start the 1st turn from scratch...

5. I will take a closer look on it


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RE: Preliminary looking for Japs to 2 vs 2 game - 10/16/2009 9:24:29 PM   
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Status: offline 		Dear Partner,

I'm glad you agree on the three points.

So,

IJN=mine
IJA=yours

My navy will do anything to hold the US of our backs for at least 1 year.
Or more.
I can also lead the attacks on the Filippines and Malaya ,and all the atolls,maybe even Australia.

After the capture your IJN takes over.

Scen 2 is a must,or no game.

Regards to all,

John(YAMAMOTO)

The industry will be yours,as you can better coordinate our needs with our power and the terrain youcapture in China and in India or further.

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RE: Preliminary looking for Japs to 2 vs 2 game - 10/16/2009 9:26:40 PM   
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Status: offline 		I'm ready for the starter.

My comrade in arms can choose our codeword.

I REPEAT

THIS IS ONLY A TRIAL

When the upgrade is out ,we restart ,no matter the outcome.

John

That's all I will say.

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RE: Preliminary looking for Japs to 2 vs 2 game - 10/16/2009 9:39:52 PM   
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For me the starter may be launched now.

The more we learn now , the better our real game will be.

And above that, I'm open to fix strange things like CV's entering without their escort etc.

Where the designers failed, we can adapt.

Start it up now , and let me know our codeword, o divine Emperor.

Your servant

Yamamoto

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RE: Preliminary looking for Japs to 2 vs 2 game - 10/16/2009 9:52:51 PM   
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Status: offline 		Huh...we are in agreement then!

Industry is a big task...I'll do my best to keep us afloat! :)

Hmmm... Where does this place the responsibilities of managing resource convoys from SRA?
And the supply of small islands out in the Pacific? You manage the supply of territories under your jurisdiction, and i manage mine (Asian mainland)? Do we use the auto-convoy system?

How does the usage of ships works under this system? Will there be divided pools for us to use cargo ships from, or how do i have to imagine this? (This is why it would be good to have a "warmup" session...)

Another thing: is turning player defined upgrades on totally out of the question? (This is important for me, because it (obviously) affect airframe production to a great degree)

How do we communicate after we start? E-mails, or some sort of instant messaging?
Which time zone are you in? (I'm GMT+1)

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RE: Preliminary looking for Japs to 2 vs 2 game - 10/16/2009 9:55:24 PM   
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Status: offline 		Huh...this sure is fast. The thing is.....it's a bit late here, and i haven't slept for more then 40 hours now.... can we start the warmup session tommorrow?

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RE: Preliminary looking for Japs to 2 vs 2 game - 10/16/2009 9:58:57 PM   
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Status: offline 		Together with your turn please send the comlete settings.

Most probably I will have POA, China and Russia and winchi will end with SWPAC, SEA and DEI.

HR: 1st turn Allied change orders for TFs already at sea only.

more or less Chester&Chiang&Josipf
e-mail: thunderbolt@centrum.sk
winchis e-mail: miroslavrybarik@zoznam.sk


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RE: Preliminary looking for Japs to 2 vs 2 game - 10/16/2009 10:08:39 PM   
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Status: offline 		Tomorrow I'm not there.

But I can start it up now , including your forces , if everybody agrees.

I need all the e-mails.

And I start it today.

Tomorrow you take over,

And Sunday I'm back

Antrax

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RE: Preliminary looking for Japs to 2 vs 2 game - 10/16/2009 10:13:53 PM   
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RE: Preliminary looking for Japs to 2 vs 2 game - 10/16/2009 11:39:32 PM   
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Status: offline 		Hmm, Just looked at scen2. 

Twice the IJN pilots, increased IJA pilots, 2 milions each of fuel, resources and supplies, 400 HI, 30 armamens, 26 vehicles factories, 3-4 more CLs, more DDs, more Es, PCs, PGs, ...

We will have TOUGH time to oppose that (especially china will be tough squared). But I hope we can manage it before you will be knocking on Brisbane/Auckland/Karachi... I hope you will not roll over the whole map


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RE: Preliminary looking for Japs to 2 vs 2 game - 10/17/2009 12:03:41 AM   
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Status: offline 		Listen,

Do i ween over the increasing US power,

Lots of CV's and other stuff

The Atomic bomb

B-29.

If went for a balanced game and fun game.

Apparently,I was wrong

Bye,

John

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RE: Preliminary looking for Japs to 2 vs 2 game - 10/17/2009 12:17:12 AM   
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Status: offline 		It was not meaned as a critique or something, I just looked at the diferences and thought about possible consequences. More will be dependent upon your gameplay ...

This should be highlighted in my previous post: "But I hope we can manage..."

Also it is a game not reality, and game main purpose is to have fun, so when you will be landing in Brisbane in April 1942, heck maybe I will land at Tokyo in May


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RE: Preliminary looking for Japs to 2 vs 2 game - 10/17/2009 12:25:50 AM   
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It's 1.22 AM

I still can start it using the historical Japanese attacks and leave the land and Industry for my buddy.

I also have another candidate,to play alone.

Alas under the same conditions:

No land ops and Industry on turn 2.

What will it be?

John

Fun for four or just another game.

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RE: Preliminary looking for Japs to 2 vs 2 game - 10/17/2009 12:39:08 AM   
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