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Allies Aug '43 TO&E - 10/6/2009 12:49:20 AM   
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This is the basic Word document that I use for playing as the Allies.
During a game, I update it as each month progresses. New arrivals, a/c changes, etc.
I usually list each unit's experience, also.

Maybe it can be useful?

Edit: I later discovered errors in the TO&E, sorry! It has been corrected and uploaded with a planning form, too.
Question: How can I delete the bad file, and post the upgrade -- in the original post? When I tried, I was told only 1 attachment per post.

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RE: Allies Aug '43 TO&E - 10/6/2009 1:12:51 AM   
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For Shame - you committed a cardinal sin. You ought be punished. CW squadrons are "No. 237"  not 237th.

Don't worry, it's not as if I've never made a mistake. Intercept Lines will be back in patch 1


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RE: Allies Aug '43 TO&E - 10/6/2009 1:37:36 AM   
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Nice

and it is 5-4-0, it is not fiveforty, or fivehundred forty

them CW types are touchy about stuff like that

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RE: Allies Aug '43 TO&E - 10/6/2009 7:53:49 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Hard Sarge

Nice

and it is 5-4-0, it is not fiveforty, or fivehundred forty

them CW types are touchy about stuff like that


Wandering off topic a bit again but, that's not always true 216 Sqn is pronounced as two-sixteen, it's to do with their previous history and transfer over from the RNAS where they were 16 squadron. When the RAF formed the RNAS air units were mostly given numbers in the 200 range, up to about 225 were all directly created from RN units iirc. The units that were XX squadron RNAS became 2XX squadron RAF. Totally irrelevant I know, but I got some bad looks when I turned up there calling it 2-1-6

Generally:
Nos 1-200 are RAF or RFC squadrons. Up to about 150 Sqn are the former RFC sqns with the rest being RAF squadrons formed sometime after April 1918.
Nos 201-225 were formerly RNAS squadrons renumbered straight into the 200 range. Up to 274 Sqn are former RNAS units formed by combining various flights up to squadron strength.
Nos 274+ are wartime created squadrons.
Nos 300-352 are squadrons formed from personnel escaping occupied Europe.
Nos in the 400 series are Commonwealth squadrons placed under control of the RAF.
Nos on the 500 series are mostly wartime created units, many of these are special operations types (RCM, recce)
Nos 600-616 are RAuxAF squadrons.
Nos 617+ are wartime formed squadrons.

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RE: Allies Aug '43 TO&E - 10/7/2009 3:38:57 AM   
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I discovered some errors in the prior uploaded TO&E.
I've corrected it and included a planning form, also.
Hope they can be useful?

TS


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RE: Allies Aug '43 TO&E - 10/7/2009 3:41:23 AM   
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It's awl-rat!

I was born south of the Mason-Dickson line, and we can pronounce things however we want!

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RE: Allies Aug '43 TO&E - 10/7/2009 10:40:47 AM   
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Technically it's an Order of Battle (OoB) not a Table of Organisation and Establishment (TOE) which deals with how individual units are organised.

The TOEs of a number of unit types in game are incorrect, hopefully this will be addressed when higher priority issues are dealt with. CW single engine day fighter Sqns in particular have too many a/c (presently 24 IE + 3 IR, instead of 16 IE + 2 IR).

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RE: Allies Aug '43 TO&E - 10/7/2009 2:02:37 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Dixie


quote:

ORIGINAL: Hard Sarge

Nice

and it is 5-4-0, it is not fiveforty, or fivehundred forty

them CW types are touchy about stuff like that


Wandering off topic a bit again but, that's not always true 216 Sqn is pronounced as two-sixteen, it's to do with their previous history and transfer over from the RNAS where they were 16 squadron. When the RAF formed the RNAS air units were mostly given numbers in the 200 range, up to about 225 were all directly created from RN units iirc. The units that were XX squadron RNAS became 2XX squadron RAF. Totally irrelevant I know, but I got some bad looks when I turned up there calling it 2-1-6

Generally:
Nos 1-200 are RAF or RFC squadrons. Up to about 150 Sqn are the former RFC sqns with the rest being RAF squadrons formed sometime after April 1918.
Nos 201-225 were formerly RNAS squadrons renumbered straight into the 200 range. Up to 274 Sqn are former RNAS units formed by combining various flights up to squadron strength.
Nos 274+ are wartime created squadrons.
Nos 300-352 are squadrons formed from personnel escaping occupied Europe.
Nos in the 400 series are Commonwealth squadrons placed under control of the RAF.
Nos on the 500 series are mostly wartime created units, many of these are special operations types (RCM, recce)
Nos 600-616 are RAuxAF squadrons.
Nos 617+ are wartime formed squadrons.


roger, interesting

you got some odd ones in there two, offhand IIRC thought it was IX and XV

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RE: Allies Aug '43 TO&E - 10/7/2009 7:12:52 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Hard Sarge

roger, interesting

you got some odd ones in there two, offhand IIRC thought it was IX and XV


Not sure I understand

EDIT: Unless you're referring to the seemingly random way in which squadrons use Arabic or Roman numbers.

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RE: Allies Aug '43 TO&E - 10/9/2009 7:55:54 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: von Shagmeister

Technically it's an Order of Battle (OoB) not a Table of Organisation and Establishment (TOE) which deals with how individual units are organised.

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von Shagmeister

Just trying to keep it seperate from the "game's" meaning of OOB's.
I don't want players downloading something thinking it will be something it isn't.

TS

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RE: Allies Aug '43 TO&E - 12/10/2009 5:33:00 PM   
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Very nice! Thanks!

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RE: Allies Aug '43 TO&E - 12/11/2009 6:39:20 AM   
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Major... <Salute>

Thanks, I meant to add one for each of the scenarios, but RL has intruded.

One day...

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RE: Allies Aug '43 TO&E - 12/11/2009 2:19:51 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Dixie

quote:

ORIGINAL: Hard Sarge

roger, interesting

you got some odd ones in there two, offhand IIRC thought it was IX and XV


Not sure I understand

EDIT: Unless you're referring to the seemingly random way in which squadrons use Arabic or Roman numbers.


sorry buddy, missed this one when it was posted

bad statement, didn't mean you, meant they

which yes, some of the them used letters instead of numbers, we talked about that while doing the OOB, figured it would be more confusing then it already is



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RE: Allies Aug '43 TO&E - 2/17/2010 2:57:36 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: von Shagmeister

Technically it's an Order of Battle (OoB) not a Table of Organisation and Establishment (TOE) which deals with how individual units are organised.

The TOEs of a number of unit types in game are incorrect, hopefully this will be addressed when higher priority issues are dealt with. CW single engine day fighter Sqns in particular have too many a/c (presently 24 IE + 3 IR, instead of 16 IE + 2 IR).

von Shagmeister


TOE in U.S. Military parlance is actually Tables of Organization and EQUIPMENT not Establishment

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