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Does radar extend more than one hex? In this report the JAp raid was detected 120 miles and the Allied raid 40 miles ( later 120) - why???? In a game could you have radar equiped TF around a CV TF to add to the range, help strikes CAP etc ? In my recent game AUG 42 Japs lost all three CV,CV,CVL in Guadalcanal to the Enterprise ( who had reacted , the other two CV TF did not and wree3 or 4 hexes behind) who shot down all the incoming planes while the Jap CAP ( 60% = 60 zero) seemed never to arrive in time. Then this was compounded by the Saratoga and Wasp Strikes but it also seemed that some CAP came from them but they were 3 or 4 hexes away??. So please advise some more detail on radar , was this the cause ? How good is Jap radar, the CVL did not have it?? I am very confused about the tactics that could be used looking at this AAR , appreciate any comments ( I was the allied BTW ) AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Aug 26, 42 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on TF, near Munda at 111,136 Weather in hex: Light rain Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet. ( WHY ONLY 40 MILES - I THINK THIS KILLED THE JAPS) Estimated time to target is 15 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 23 Allied aircraft SBD-3 Dauntless x 51 TBF-1 Avenger x 13 No Japanese losses Allied aircraft losses SBD-3 Dauntless: 14 destroyed, 10 damaged TBF-1 Avenger: 5 destroyed, 2 damaged Japanese Ships CVL Ryujo CV Zuikaku, Bomb hits 1 CV Shokaku Aircraft Attacking: 10 x SBD-3 Dauntless diving from 2000' Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb 11 x SBD-3 Dauntless diving from 2000' Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb 4 x TBF-1 Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet Naval Attack: 1 x 22in Mk 13 Torpedo 11 x SBD-3 Dauntless diving from 2000' Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb CAP engaged: EI-1 Daitai with A6M2 Zero (2 airborne, 6 on standby, 0 scrambling) 2 plane(s) intercepting now. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 12000 and 15000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 6 minutes EII-1 Daitai with A6M2 Zero (2 airborne, 6 on standby, 0 scrambling) 2 plane(s) intercepting now. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 8000 and 10000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 4 minutes DI-1 Daitai with A6M2 Zero (0 airborne, 5 on standby, 0 scrambling) 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 2 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 11000 and 13000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 18 minutes -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on TF, near Munda at 111,136 Weather in hex: Light rain Raid detected at 120 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet. ( STILL ALMOST NO CAP) Estimated time to target is 47 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 11 Allied aircraft F4F-4 Wildcat x 18 SBD-3 Dauntless x 33 TBF-1 Avenger x 15 No Japanese losses Allied aircraft losses SBD-3 Dauntless: 3 destroyed, 5 damaged TBF-1 Avenger: 2 destroyed, 13 damaged Japanese Ships CVL Ryujo, Bomb hits 1, on fire CV Shokaku, Bomb hits 1, on fire CS Chitose CV Zuikaku, Bomb hits 3, on fire Aircraft Attacking: 17 x SBD-3 Dauntless diving from 2000' Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb 15 x SBD-3 Dauntless diving from 2000' Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb 13 x TBF-1 Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet Naval Attack: 1 x 22in Mk 13 Torpedo CAP engaged: EI-1 Daitai with A6M2 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 5 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 Time for all group planes to reach interception is 12 minutes 2 planes vectored on to bombers DI-1 Daitai with A6M2 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 Time for all group planes to reach interception is 7 minutes EII-1 Daitai with A6M2 Zero (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 1 plane(s) intercepting now. 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 2 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 Time for all group planes to reach interception is 43 minutes 2 planes vectored on to bombers Heavy smoke from fires obscuring CV Shokaku... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on TF, near Munda at 111,136 Weather in hex: Light rain Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 15 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 5 Allied aircraft SBD-3 Dauntless x 18 TBF-1 Avenger x 15 No Japanese losses Allied aircraft losses SBD-3 Dauntless: 1 destroyed, 4 damaged TBF-1 Avenger: 2 destroyed, 11 damaged Japanese Ships CV Shokaku, Bomb hits 1, on fire DD Hamakaze CA Tone CS Chitose DD Tokitsukaze CV Zuikaku, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage DD Arashi DD Nowaki Aircraft Attacking: 17 x SBD-3 Dauntless bombing from 2000 feet Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb 14 x TBF-1 Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet Naval Attack: 1 x 22in Mk 13 Torpedo CAP engaged: EI-1 Daitai with A6M2 Zero (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 2 plane(s) intercepting now. Group patrol altitude is 15000 Raid is overhead DI-1 Daitai with A6M2 Zero (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 2 plane(s) intercepting now. Group patrol altitude is 15000 Raid is overhead EII-1 Daitai with A6M2 Zero (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 1 plane(s) intercepting now. Group patrol altitude is 15000 Raid is overhead Heavy smoke from fires obscuring CV Shokaku... Heavy smoke from fires obscuring CV Zuikaku... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on TF, near Rennell Island at 111,141 Weather in hex: Clear sky Raid detected at 120 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 45 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 5 B5N1 Kate x 12 D3A2 Val x 26 Allied aircraft F4F-4 Wildcat x 32 Japanese aircraft losses A6M2 Zero: 3 destroyed B5N1 Kate: 4 destroyed D3A2 Val: 11 destroyed, 4 damaged Allied Ships CV Enterprise Aircraft Attacking: 4 x D3A2 Val diving from 2000' Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg AP Bomb CAP engaged: VF-3 with F4F-4 Wildcat (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) (11 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.) 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 7 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 10000 Time for all group planes to reach interception is 39 minutes 8 planes vectored on to bombers VF-71 with F4F-4 Wildcat (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) (3 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.) 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 3 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 10000 Time for all group planes to reach interception is 34 minutes 3 planes vectored on to bombers VF-6 with F4F-4 Wildcat (2 airborne, 12 on standby, 0 scrambling) 2 plane(s) intercepting now. 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 8000 and 12000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 26 minutes 10 planes vectored on to bombers -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on TF, near Rennell Island at 112,143 Weather in hex: Heavy rain Raid detected at 120 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 52 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 10 B5N1 Kate x 11 Allied aircraft F4F-4 Wildcat x 31 Japanese aircraft losses A6M2 Zero: 3 destroyed B5N1 Kate: 3 destroyed Allied aircraft losses F4F-4 Wildcat: 1 destroyed CAP engaged: VF-3 with F4F-4 Wildcat (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 25 scrambling) Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 1000 and 14000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 18 minutes 13 planes vectored on to bombers VF-71 with F4F-4 Wildcat (0 airborne, 6 on standby, 0 scrambling) Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 7000 and 10000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 26 minutes 4 planes vectored on to bombers -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on TF, near Munda at 111,136 Weather in hex: Light rain Raid detected at 120 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 37 minutes Allied aircraft Kittyhawk IA x 14 B-17E Fortress x 3 No Allied losses Japanese Ships CVL Ryujo, on fire Aircraft Attacking: 3 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 15000 feet * Naval Attack: 4 x 500 lb SAP Bomb Carrier support unable to supply air cover..... Heavy smoke from fires obscuring CVL Ryujo... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Russell Islands at 111,137 Weather in hex: Clear sky Raid spotted at 37 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 8 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 11 Allied aircraft Kittyhawk IA x 7 No Japanese losses Allied aircraft losses Kittyhawk IA: 1 destroyed CAP engaged: EII-1 Daitai with A6M2 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 Time for all group planes to reach interception is 1 minutes EII-1 Daitai with A6M2 Zero (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 1 scrambling) 1 plane(s) intercepting now. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 15000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 10 minutes EI-1 Daitai with A6M2 Zero (0 airborne, 3 on standby, 0 scrambling) 3 plane(s) intercepting now. 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 15000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 2 minutes DI-1 Daitai with A6M2 Zero (0 airborne, 3 on standby, 0 scrambling) 3 plane(s) intercepting now. 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 15000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 5 minutes -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Russell Islands at 111,137 Weather in hex: Clear sky Raid detected at 37 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 8 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 11 Allied aircraft Kittyhawk IA x 7 Japanese aircraft losses A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed Allied aircraft losses Kittyhawk IA: 1 destroyed CAP engaged: EII-1 Daitai with A6M2 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 Time for all group planes to reach interception is 3 minutes EII-1 Daitai with A6M2 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 Time for all group planes to reach interception is 5 minutes EI-1 Daitai with A6M2 Zero (3 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 3 plane(s) intercepting now. 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 1 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 Time for all group planes to reach interception is 39 minutes DI-1 Daitai with A6M2 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 3 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 Time for all group planes to reach interception is 43 minutes -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Russell Islands at 111,137 Weather in hex: Clear sky Raid detected at 120 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 47 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 8 Allied aircraft F4F-4 Wildcat x 39 SBD-3 Dauntless x 30 TBF-1 Avenger x 6 No Japanese losses Allied aircraft losses F4F-4 Wildcat: 2 destroyed SBD-3 Dauntless: 5 damaged TBF-1 Avenger: 1 destroyed, 3 damaged Japanese Ships CVL Ryujo, Bomb hits 3, Torpedo hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage CV Shokaku, Bomb hits 4, heavy fires, heavy damage CA Chikuma DD Nowaki Aircraft Attacking: 7 x SBD-3 Dauntless diving from 2000' Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb 9 x SBD-3 Dauntless diving from 2000' Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb 2 x TBF-1 Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet Naval Attack: 1 x 22in Mk 13 Torpedo 14 x SBD-3 Dauntless bombing from 2000 feet Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb 2 x TBF-1 Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet Naval Attack: 1 x 22in Mk 13 Torpedo CAP engaged: EII-1 Daitai with A6M2 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 Time for all group planes to reach interception is 16 minutes EI-1 Daitai with A6M2 Zero (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 1 plane(s) intercepting now. 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 2 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 Time for all group planes to reach interception is 38 minutes DI-1 Daitai with A6M2 Zero (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 2 plane(s) intercepting now. 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 Time for all group planes to reach interception is 12 minutes Heavy smoke from fires obscuring CV Shokaku... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Russell Islands at 111,137 Weather in hex: Clear sky Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 31 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 4 Allied aircraft F4F-4 Wildcat x 15 SBD-3 Dauntless x 25 TBF-1 Avenger x 3 Japanese aircraft losses A6M2 Zero: 3 destroyed Allied aircraft losses F4F-4 Wildcat: 1 destroyed SBD-3 Dauntless: 3 damaged TBF-1 Avenger: 2 damaged Japanese Ships CV Shokaku, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage CA Tone DD Isokaze CA Chikuma, Bomb hits 1, on fire DD Hatsukaze CVL Ryujo, and is sunk DD Hamakaze Aircraft Attacking: 13 x SBD-3 Dauntless diving from 2000' Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb 12 x SBD-3 Dauntless diving from 2000' Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb GP Bomb 3 x TBF-1 Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet Naval Attack: 1 x 22in Mk 13 Torpedo CAP engaged: EII-1 Daitai with A6M2 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 1 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 Time for all group planes to reach interception is 35 minutes DI-1 Daitai with A6M2 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 1 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 Time for all group planes to reach interception is 34 minutes EI-1 Daitai with A6M2 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 Time for all group planes to reach interception is 8 minutes Heavy smoke from fires obscuring CV Shokaku... Heavy smoke from fires obscuring CA Chikuma... Ryujo dead in the water ...... Heavy smoke from fires obscuring CVL Ryujo... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Rennell Island at 112,140 Weather in hex: Thunderstorms Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 30 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 3 D3A2 Val x 12 Allied aircraft F4F-4 Wildcat x 16 Japanese aircraft losses D3A2 Val: 8 destroyed Allied Ships CV Enterprise CAP engaged: VF-6 with F4F-4 Wildcat (0 airborne, 11 on standby, 0 scrambling) 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 1 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 10000 and 12000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 22 minutes 1 planes vectored on to bombers -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Rennell Island at 112,143 Weather in hex: Clear sky Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 6,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 34 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 3 B5N1 Kate x 6 Allied aircraft F4F-4 Wildcat x 17 Japanese aircraft losses B5N1 Kate: 4 destroyed CAP engaged: VF-3 with F4F-4 Wildcat (0 airborne, 6 on standby, 0 scrambling) 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 2 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 2000 and 10000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 28 minutes 2 planes vectored on to bombers VF-71 with F4F-4 Wildcat (3 airborne, 6 on standby, 0 scrambling) 3 plane(s) intercepting now. Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 5000 and 6000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 29 minutes
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