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Would you wait for the first patch - 9/25/2009 7:02:24 PM   
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Hi,

I've bought a new gaming rig, running Win 7 64 bit with 6 gb ram, I7 920 and a Nvidia 285 graphic card.

And it seems that the game have some problems with pc's with more cores etc.


So should I wait?

Thanks in advance.
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RE: Would you wait for the first patch - 9/25/2009 7:22:25 PM   
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sounds nice

overall, it looks like the workaround are working for the people reporting troubles

one of the testers had Win 7 and reported it worked

(not sure about the 64 bit part though, maybe wait to see if they are able to help Nemo with his issue)

but it did work with my Vista 64 bit laptop

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RE: Would you wait for the first patch - 9/25/2009 7:28:05 PM   
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I had TERRIBLE slowdown, but switching the multi cores down to one solved it...a bit of a ridiculous situation really, but I don't mind as it worked.

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RE: Would you wait for the first patch - 9/25/2009 7:29:40 PM   
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that is odd, switching to one core didn't help that much, then I tried two cores and it was fine ?

dang computers will drive you nuts



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RE: Would you wait for the first patch - 9/26/2009 6:58:19 AM   
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I had hoped for a clear Yes or No 

Thanks for your answers, will see what today brings....


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RE: Would you wait for the first patch - 9/26/2009 7:25:33 AM   
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If I had it to do again, I'd wait for a patch or two (especially as I still have the original games). 

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RE: Would you wait for the first patch - 9/26/2009 9:20:12 AM   
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I am probably going to wait. I m spending the little free time I have on WitP:AE PBEMs. I foolishly bought War Between the States and haven't been able to read the manual yet. It would be stupid to buy another monster game right now. To be sure, I will buy this game, no question about it. Just not right now. Of course, I consider a patch as a benefit of my my choice. 

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RE: Would you wait for the first patch - 9/26/2009 9:24:16 AM   
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I also bought Witp:AE and haven't really touched it yet but an old friend has the option of playing PBEM with him in Bob or Witp:AE. So right now its his decision. And like you Valgua, I'm buying Bob no matter what since I'm more am air plane guy

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RE: Would you wait for the first patch - 9/26/2009 9:46:18 AM   
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If I had it to do again, I'd wait for a patch or two (especially as I still have the original games). 


Not interested in having any input into what goes into the patches.......

Costs no more and you get an identical product after the patches are applied.


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RE: Would you wait for the first patch - 9/26/2009 10:05:49 PM   
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Wait for the patch Cougar...

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RE: Would you wait for the first patch - 9/26/2009 10:39:06 PM   
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I'm waiting for the patch and more reviews. I shouldn't have to mess with my computer to get this to work afterall it was suppose to be made to work on Vista systems without any issues. Now we have Win7 out and we have to wonder if that's going to be issues with games as well. It doesn't appear developers are keeping up with the times. These issues are springing up everywhere on new games.

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RE: Would you wait for the first patch - 9/26/2009 10:41:21 PM   
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I'm waiting for the patch and more reviews. I shouldn't have to mess with my computer to get this to work afterall it was suppose to be made to work on Vista systems without any issues. Now we have Win7 out and we have to wonder if that's going to be issues with games as well. It doesn't appear developers are keeping up with the times. These issues are springing up everywhere on new games.


It is more that the users are often not up to date with their programms, and also do not know about their computer settings. And if you think Win7 will make it any better.............

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RE: Would you wait for the first patch - 9/26/2009 10:55:15 PM   
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I agree with Swift...normally it's users and some obscure setting or a driver.

Also, poor devs (and I mean this)...Visual Studio 2003. Visual Studio 2005. Visual Studio 2008. Visual Studio 2010. Windows Vista...Windows 7!

It's not that easy to keep up with the times! They change very fast. I'm getting more than a little fedup with the new development tools and books I need to buy in order to "keep up"...it's getting expensive

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RE: Would you wait for the first patch - 9/27/2009 12:42:56 AM   
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quote:

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If I had it to do again, I'd wait for a patch or two (especially as I still have the original games).


Not interested in having any input into what goes into the patches.......

Costs no more and you get an identical product after the patches are applied.



No, I'm not interested in paying to be a part of what amounts to being an extended beta team. And it does cost more. The cost is in extra effort and game frustration and politicking to be "heard." Not to mention on paper at least, my money could do more for me in the interim than it is doing now.

I'd much rather buy a trouble-free and/or playable game. I most often, settle for buying a game and being able to download patches to make it trouble-free and/or playable, when I paid for it. (Generically speaking, no offense intended to the game team specifically).

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RE: Would you wait for the first patch - 9/27/2009 6:03:14 AM   
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Wait for the patch Cougar...



Yeah, I think I will.... But let me know if you need a tester with a 64 bit Win 7 and an Intel I7 920 with 8 cores

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RE: Would you wait for the first patch - 9/27/2009 8:16:28 PM   
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Cougar, I have same spec as you.

BTR is running great except for turning on "Highlight Target Damage" slows it down a lot.
Right now you can hit F2 to show only your assigned targets damage and that is a good workaround for the attacker only.

I would wait for more performance issues to be fixed, after that I fully recommend the game. It's very addictive, much like WITP.



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RE: Would you wait for the first patch - 9/28/2009 6:18:05 AM   
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HOI III has these same issues with slow down on just about everything out there. I don't see how these games can get out of production with these kinds of issues. Are these developers and publishers using mroe than 10 people to beta test these games anymore? Now we not only have to deal with bugs, crashes and flaws that we regularly get we have to deal with slow game speed as well. Then to add insult to injury having to pay taxes on our out of state purchases as well. I beginning to think it's time for another tea party.

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RE: Would you wait for the first patch - 9/28/2009 7:29:48 AM   
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Well I don't know exactly what is causing the slowdown in terms of hardware/software/bugs...but there is a definite link to the Target Damage highlight button.

Like you I wonder...did no-one use Target Damage in testing? It's a very important button.

However, I'll be more than happy with my purchase when this issue disappears.

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RE: Would you wait for the first patch - 9/28/2009 9:32:49 AM   
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Cougar, I have same spec as you.

BTR is running great except for turning on "Highlight Target Damage" slows it down a lot.
Right now you can hit F2 to show only your assigned targets damage and that is a good workaround for the attacker only.

I would wait for more performance issues to be fixed, after that I fully recommend the game. It's very addictive, much like WITP.





Glad to hear... I want this game so badly

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RE: Would you wait for the first patch - 9/28/2009 10:06:48 AM   
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I would go ahead and grab it......it is worth the money.......I have no issues running on Vista 64 except the spinning cursor thingy. Seems to run a little too fast for me, the bad guys are over the target before I can even get a/c in the air (yes, I am using the slowest clock setting).

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RE: Would you wait for the first patch - 9/28/2009 1:16:20 PM   
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Well I don't know exactly what is causing the slowdown in terms of hardware/software/bugs...but there is a definite link to the Target Damage highlight button.

Like you I wonder...did no-one use Target Damage in testing? It's a very important button.

However, I'll be more than happy with my purchase when this issue disappears.


if you look at any of my AARs you will see I use nothing but the Highlighted Damage, these were not a issue except for people with Quad Cores systems, and not every Quad Core system has this trouble

my Vista 64 runs the game better then any of my other computers, and from the Forums, it looks like AE was caught by surprise by the same issues

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RE: Would you wait for the first patch - 9/28/2009 1:40:01 PM   
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I see....not a problem...I'll wait for the fix.

I was using it last night and whilst I had to switch on and off the Target Damage, I would prefer to have it on...so whilst I thought initially for me it was a game stopper, turns out I've worked round it

Also, I will try my Vista laptop. I'm not holding out much hope, it's not a gaming laptop...I can just play the odd strategy game on it. I'm interested to see if it has the same issue as the PC (the laptop is a Core 2 Duo)

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RE: Would you wait for the first patch - 9/28/2009 5:02:43 PM   
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Oh well, I couldn't wait... I don't have the hour glass (maybe because of playing in a window). The game is slow even running on just one core, so my guess is that on my pc its directdraw that has to be disabled.

Thanks for the game guys, looking forward to learn and play it. Off to read the manual.


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RE: Would you wait for the first patch - 9/28/2009 5:25:52 PM   
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And I must confess that I was a little excited to see my own name in a game

Thanks HS!!!


Mark Jensen, thats me

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RE: Would you wait for the first patch - 9/28/2009 7:45:52 PM   
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And now you have to survive the war!

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RE: Would you wait for the first patch - 9/28/2009 7:47:27 PM   
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Yes, too bad I'm used in BTR since I start with BoB learning my ropes there

Oh well please take care of me


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RE: Would you wait for the first patch - 9/28/2009 7:49:45 PM   
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aaaahhhhh....I think you missed something......I am the fat Reichsmarschall in the BtR43 PBEM :p

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RE: Would you wait for the first patch - 9/28/2009 8:14:45 PM   
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LOOOOOOOL, then you know which unit NOT to hit

Have a nice game. Reading all the AARs

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RE: Would you wait for the first patch - 9/29/2009 2:16:53 AM   
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Oh well, I couldn't wait... I don't have the hour glass (maybe because of playing in a window). The game is slow even running on just one core, so my guess is that on my pc its directdraw that has to be disabled.




I'm using all cores on i7 920 to get best performance and it runs super smooth (except for highlight damage). Is it even slow with them all?
I have directdraw enabled. (because I can't disable it) I'm running in a window too.

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RE: Would you wait for the first patch - 9/29/2009 8:31:22 AM   
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Oh well, I couldn't wait... I don't have the hour glass (maybe because of playing in a window). The game is slow even running on just one core, so my guess is that on my pc its directdraw that has to be disabled.




I'm using all cores on i7 920 to get best performance and it runs super smooth (except for highlight damage). Is it even slow with them all?
I have directdraw enabled. (because I can't disable it) I'm running in a window too.


Ok, then I'm wondering whats causing the problem on my machine then? My map scroll is slow, units move like turtles etc. But I'm sure harley will come up with something ala the things done in Witp:AE which runs perfectly with the right command line settings.

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