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Spellir(German) vs Falco(Russian) - 8/13/2009 1:38:03 AM   
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Spellir(German) vs Falco(Russian)

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1500 points each. March '44

German defending south road and woods.


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I imagined the scenario I was dealt as the counterpunch of a retreating decimated Pz Divison.

"Aufklaarung Counter 44"

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March 4 1944

X D.Pz
Oberst Spellir commanding.

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Situation as of 12:40PM.

After being routed, most of division destroyed.

Operations Stabff nowhere to be found. Myself and Major Befel the only Command officers left; and a Major Schmet recently in charge of what remains of regimental artillery.

Once the withdrawal affored time and space, I re assembled two makeshift KGs: mine and Maj Befel's.

Seeing as there was nowhere left to retreat to (marshes to south west [off map]) and seeing a summit, with Divisional Stab's MG Kompanie stranded there --and knowing the Soviets had to proceed down the only road through the marshes-- I decided to mount a counter attack: I hold the only road off that plateau through the marshes.

The plan was to sweep around south-east and occupy the summit plateu denying it to the advancing soviet armour so that korp command could retake the entire area unmolested.

I took all the Aufkl and most Pioniers in my KG and swept around to link up with Stab MG komp near the summit.

I ordered Maj Befel's KG to dig in in place to my north west [off Map] and protect my north flank. Ultimately he would draw fire from the advancing Soviets that I --being deployed on the summit --would be able to decisively respond to.

I ordered Schmet's Artillery, which was far ahead into the Southwest marshes --busily bogging itself in-- to deploy for fire missions.

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Divisional Assets:

..Most of Shutzen Regiment anihilated.

..Most Panzers destroyed.

..Most Pz Jg destroyed.

..Much of artillery rgt captured.

..Stab and Nachrichten etc unaccounted for.

..Remaining, under my control--

-Auflk elements --including light tanks

-Combat Engineers

-Pltn Pz IVG

..Some Haubitz (contingent on Schmet)

..Remaining, in summit area, when I arrived there--

-Stab's Maschinen Geweher company (w/ PzShrk)

-Some Mortars

-remnant one Pz Gren Kompanie --unmounted

-PzV(Panther) (recovered)

..Remaining, under Maj Befel (to my north)--

-Combat Engineers

-Pltn PzIV

-PzJg

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Action at 1:10PM.

[Map 0+1]

When my KG arrived at the summit's vicinity, it was _already_ being occupied by Soviet SP artillery! Radio link with Stab's MG komp dug in due west of summit informed me there were pltns of T-70 and British mediums assembling, along with some Inf and medium ATG already there.

South of that summit, a Sov probe was approaching from the east, threatening surviving PzGrn pltns and our stranded recovery maintainence personnel. In that south area -- back behind the PzGrn positions-- there were three PzV(Panters) recently repaired, and a le.mtr platoon.

My KG, arriving in the SW, was in two prongs--North and South. The north prong --PzIILuchs, PiWg, Pionier and ATR-- was set to link up with southern wing of Stab MG Kompanie. My southern prong --PzIV, one heavy recon vehicle, Pionier, Recc truppen and MG-- was to advance east to SE Woods --bringing ammo to PzGrn there-- then ultimately north for flanking run on summit, after linking up with PzV(Panthers) and le.mtrs.

But that Sov south probe was a full on Sov Inf btn advance supported by tanks!

I needed that SE area secured if I was to move on the summit before the Russian artillery got fully set there and started to decimate the area for kilometers...


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RE: Spellir(German) vs Falco(Russian) - 8/13/2009 1:39:46 AM   
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Key to units in Play-by-Play AAR below:

"/PzGrn + /MG and /ArmdMaint[Pion], /le.mrtrs and /PzV(Panthers recovered)." {_On site -Dell._ Imagined this to be routed though recovering surviving Pzgren + MG pltns and stranded maintence recovery personnel with vehicles.}

"Stab's MG company(+ATR)." {_On site -Heights._ Imagined this to be Stranded Divisional Stab's Maschinengewehr Kompanie, with some surviving stab officiers armed wth PzShrek. Some Gruppn cut off, some linked up with my relieving force.}

"n_Luchs, n_PiWg[222s], n_Pioniers, n_ATR and one n_250; s_PzIVs, s_RecceTruppn[PzGr] + s_MG, s_shwRecce and s_222s; _PzIIIM." {_West SW of map._ Imagined this to be my counter-attack force in two prongs- 'n_' & 's_'; s_222s linking with /Panthers, /le.mrts and /ArmdMaint momemts before my full arrival (they brought gas to PzVs); _PIII as command.}

81mm; 105mm FH & 150mm sFH. {_Off map._ Imagined these to be A) elements of routed /PzGrn; and B) retreating remnant of Div's Artillery Rgt.}


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[[[PLAY BY PLAY]]


SET UP

Stab MG Kompanie+PzSk positions tweeked. [Could have been better in retrospect: should have made the summit overlook the right flank of this ambush party.]

/ArmMaint[Pion] to foxholes and buildings. [Actually, 'Alee' of buildings, in woods --better for dismount.] /PzGrn1 and /MG tweeked in SE woods; /PzGrn2 to foxholes by Hillfarm. /PzV(Panthers), /le.mrt and s_222s back to SW woodline. [Could have brought le.mrts forward to woods there.]

n_PiWg[222] and n_Luchs closer to n_ATR and n_Pioniers for later mounting. {They linked up with StabMG-southwing.}

s_PzIV + s_MG(mounted) towards SE woods (for flanking run). s_RecTrp[PzGr] to SW woods as link up with /le.mrts, and s_222.

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Turn 1 set

Many Sov su76s on north road, many T-70s and Valentines too; and an ATG.

Sov T70 probe at SE.

Stab MG zug calls in Arti on assembled Valentines & T70s.

Stab MG southwing moving north to south side of summit WestPeak.

n_Luch withdraw to link up with moving n_Pioniers; n_ATR moves to n_PiWg[222] (they will go to summit WestPeak area, assist StabMG); n_Luchs + n_Pioniers will advance towards and occupy Hillfarm and relieve /PzGrn2 there.)

s_RcTrp[PzGrn] def-move to s_222 in SW woods. (Tight in SW woods there!)

/ArmdMaint[Pion] call in 81mrt smoke. (To cover cls assault /PzGrn2 there and cover both s_PzIV+s_MG run to SE woods and n_Luchs+n_Pioniers advance on Hillfarm.) {Cancel smoke after 1 turn!}

/MG rush to SE woodrise, assist /PzGrn1.

All else 'def hold'. (Especially those SW wood's /Panthers!)


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1 Play

North T70 advance, towards West. Sov Inf thrust in SE.

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Phase 1b set

Chose not to take a /Panther shot on su76 peaking over road...

/MG still rushing in SE woods.

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1b Play

North T70 advance, towards West. Major sov Inf thrust in SE.

MG-stab zug, spotting arti, draws fire.

n_250 draws fire from unseen. (It wasn't set to def hold: so far back I didn't think it necessary.)

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Sov SE advance seen from /PzGrn:




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RE: Spellir(German) vs Falco(Russian) - 8/13/2009 1:40:56 AM   
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Turn 2 set

n_250 rushes to cover forward at Peak's 'alee'.

n_PiWg[222]+n_ATR rushes to Peak's 'alee' (to assist Stab-Pzb there).

n_Pioniers didn't make it to n_Luchs; continue moving together. (damn)

s_PzIV+s_MG and s_shwRecc set to Rush to SE woods.

s_222+s_RcTrp[Pzgrn] withdraw (Rush next turn to SE woods. I want to absolutely crush all enemy in that SE area so I can focus on s_PzIV flanking of the SU76s and Valentines.)

/Panthers definitely def hold in SW woods.

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2 Play

Even more Inf south: second wave & on East Summit Road.

Enemy Air strike!!... n_PzII(Luchs) halved; n_pionier practically destroyed! (Assault on Hill Farm --which was to be northern spur of my counter to that Sov SE attack--in question now.)

[!!PzII Luchs don't carry troops in stock game! Ie the whole assembly area mounting procedure--which led to the loss there-- was a waste any way!]

StabMG spotting suppresed from SU76s.

My Arti arrives --no damage. My south east mrt smoke arrives.

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Phase 2b set

Anti air... All button up; Adjust into woods where possible.

/PzV opens up on SU 76 peaking over summit.

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2b Play

SU76 destroyed; Sov south T70 damaged.

T-70 North destroyed --Arti top deck.

s_shwRecc destroyed --Air strike.

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RE: Spellir(German) vs Falco(Russian) - 8/13/2009 1:43:22 AM   
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Turn 3 set

n_PzIILuchs to western treeline of Hillfarm (much sov Inf on East summit road).

n_250 will pick up stabMG-southwing solo (to move to Hillfarm (in house) under smoke).

n_PiWg+n_ATR tweek to summit hill, concealed. (n_PiWg will then pick StabMG-southwing[reduced from airstrike] and deliver to Hill farm area under smoke.)

/PzV moves to get bead on South T-70. /le.mrt eng-move east.

s_PzIV Eng mov into woods, unbuttoned and buttoned.

s_222+s_RecTrp[Pzgrn] rush to westline of woods.

/MG in SE woods eng-move tweek.

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3 Play

SU76s advance towards summit. (They know where Panthers are now!)

Valentines move West (to escape barrage?).

My arti Hits: damage to a valentine.

A /PzV auto def-fired on Sov Inf South.

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Phase 3b set

/PzV def fire on SU76; other /PzVs withdraw-tweek to better LOS on impending SU thrust.

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3b Play

Enemy Airstrike. Destroys: two n_PiWg (one dead & one 222 gun out) + one n_ATR.

My arti suppressed some Valentine Inf.

/PzV(panters) kill one Su76.

s_MG (mounted) auto opens up on Inf at Hillfarm.

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Turn 4 set

Rush n_Luchs to Hillfarm --right under nose of SU76 summit; distraction.

Rush n_250+StabMG solo back south (ultimately over to SW wood's strongpoint)

/PzV (Panthers) Eng-Fire SU76 (still coming) _&_ a T70 south trying flanking run.

Rush s_222s+s_RcTrp[Pzgren] onto SE woodRise (ahead of s_PzIVs in there!). Advance s_PzIVs in SE woods into position....

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Hillfarm and woods seen from South summit alee:



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RE: Spellir(German) vs Falco(Russian) - 8/13/2009 1:51:09 AM   
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Set-up to 4a...






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RE: Spellir(German) vs Falco(Russian) - 8/13/2009 1:52:57 AM   
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4 Play

(Good turn!)

Sov SP and both south T70s destroyed by /PzV (T70 auto destroyed). SU dead-on targeting one /Panther though!....

Some south Sov Inf in SE wood edge now. Sov Inf occupying Hillfarm (ahead of my n_PzIILuchs, darnit).

Sov North advance was NOT preluded by barrage (even though StabMG-spotting was making big racket up there, drawing fire).

Consequently, my Stab-PzShrk(right on top of MG stab) is def-hold (invisible) un-pertubed as they wait for 'one shot, one
kill' times three tms.

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Phase 4b set

All StabMG firing on moutned INf of T-70; one Stab ATR Pzshrek opens up on lead (rest Pzsrk def-hold) --I hope to create
traffic jam.

One n_PIILuchs stops in tree line and covers for rest(shoots at rushing Sov Inf [MG since they're moving), as they rush
final leg into woods south of Hillfarm.

/PzV(Panthers) do some creative targeting (and withdrawing) since one has been targeted dead on.

/PzGrn1 opens up on South Sov Inf; s_222s+s_RecTrp[Pzgrn] contuinue buttoned rush to final leg onto woodrise, ahead of
advancing s_PzIVs. (I wonder what enemy is there, since some seeable Sov inf has already made it to wood edge...)

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4b Play

SUPER turn! Five SU76s destroyed by /Panthers; Three Sov Inf squads.

One StabMG has 2 bags now.

[This has turned ito the "Prokhorovka of Panthers".]

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Captured photo of SU76 death field:



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RE: Spellir(German) vs Falco(Russian) - 8/13/2009 1:54:52 AM   
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Turn 5 set

In SE Woods, set detailed, more patient combat deployment ('advance' etc to tree lines).

n_PIILuchs fire on Hillfarm and south Inf wave; one advances north to Hillfarm through smoke.

/Armdmaint[pion] spots 81mrt on south Inf wave.

/PzV open up on Hillfarm Inf and SU's _Inf supprt_.

n_Pion --finally unsuppressed after airstrike decimation -- rushes to summit alee (by ATR there).

n_250 +StabMG solo Rushes to target Hillfarm's north flank.

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5 Play

Dead:
T-70 north by PzShrk.

Fair amount of Sov Inf all over.

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Phase 5 set

/PzV(Panther) lays smoke on Stab. All Stab open up.

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5b Play

More Sov Inf dead.

Another T-70-North gone. Smoke in; but Stab is suppressed, some with 2bags.

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Turn 6 set

(Now that summit is denied enemy, I can maneuver with security. This allows me to move on his rear in prongs.)

/MG finally unsuppressed after airstirke.

SE wood deployment is set --and they come.

/le.mrt finally in range: Target, indirect, lead SouthEast Sov Inf.

Withdraw n_PzII Luchs to rd.

Move out /PzV to dirt rd; withdraw _PzIII (enemy barrage coming?).


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Nachrichten photographs assualt on Stab!:



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6 Play

Uneventful: All my plans unfolding smoothly; poor stab though taking a beating.

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Phase 6b set

/PzV lays smoke on hillfarm woods, protecting /PzGren2 there.

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6b Play

Two T-70 North dead -- Stab-PzShrk.

Sov South East Advance is _destroyed_ but for lrg pltn. (Then on to East Summit Rd (Hillfarm) for flanking of Sov North (some Su76s back there still!).)

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Turn 7 set

/PzV (rushes) to West Woods (hope rushing wasn't mistake -- concerned about Sov Arti though.)

Stab calls in Smoke on location... (1 turn only!)

....Last few turns /le.mrt has been choice-targeting --indirect-- SE Sov Inf that was dangerous to my Inf or couldn't be picked up by on site units.

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7 play

A n_ATR (German) dead! Sloppy moving.[grrr!]

SE thrust is surprisingly re-animate. [hmmm?]

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Phase 7b set

_PzIII opens on T-70 North breaking through Stab. Unbutton /PzV(panther) as they move (still no Russian Arti).

StabMG-cut-off opens.

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7b Play

2 StabMG dead; a PzSrk out of HEAT. (Should have opened on T-70North thrust with /PzV(Panthers).)

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Turn 8 set

cancel 150 smoke Mission on Stab. [It will arrive this turn.]

/PzV opens on North T-70s overrunning Stab.

_PzIII rushes to summit alee (previous fire on north T-70 ineffective).

n_PzII Luchs advance slightly on Hillfarm and SE field.

s_PzIV engage move to SE field along with s_222, to get out of woods (enemy arti coming?)

(My 81 mrt barrage over.)

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Sloppy move claims team at summit Stab:



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4b to 8a-setup...






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OKAY...

8 Pre-Play

!!!! Sov T-70 Norths materialize out of nowhere, behind my line --poof: NOT POSSIBLE!!






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Breeching north T-70s destroyed, mostly by Stab PzSk.







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Phase 8b set

/PzV lay smoke on Stab.

SE woods & Field set to mop up; Hillfarm Inf surprisingly tenacious.

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8b Play

New T-70s (the poof breechers) now destroyed by Stab PzSk!

Two Stab PzShrk killed. ...Just as all that smoke came in. (I will get that surviving stab out of there! But they are in a depression which I can not cover from my /PzV positions, and have always been suppressed.)

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Turn 9 Set

s_PzIV advance on East summit rd and Hillfarm; s_222s withdraw to pick up s_RcTrp[Pzgren] (will deploy to East Summit rd, spotting for s_PzIVs.)

_PzIII torwards Hillfarm. (But Will double back to alee, facing west so as to have point plank flanks of next Sov breech, once Sov Hillfarm eyeballs are gone/confused.)

Stab unsurpressed! Coming out! Relieving Force (of n_ATR, reintroduced Stab MG and n_PiWg) tweeking deployment there.


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Lettin'em have it, at SE woods and field:





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9 Pre-Play

Again!! A destoyed Sov tank is now healed behind my lines!! One that I just destroyed last turn when it appeared out of
nowhere behind my lines! [This must be addressed by Devs.]






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9 Play

SU76s being brought over to Sov North west thrust.

South Sov Inf appears, flanking SE Woods. (I beleive they were probably always there just not utilized earlier.)

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Phase 9b set

s_222s picking up s_RecTrpn (Pzgrn).

_PzIII to relieve Stab.

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9b Play

Unproductive.

SU 76s rushing west over to Stab's breeched line. Sov South East Inf flankers coming hard.

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Turn 9 set

n_PiWg(222s) to assist Stab pullout by moving into fire then "pop on pop off".

Had to withdraw n_PzIILuchs slightly: one was too close to tenacious Inf in woods.

StabMG-cutoff calls in PzGrn's 81mrt on Sov north area, then digs in under fire forgoing sighting.


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Getting Stab out:



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10 Play

Sov Inf North rush right on top of Stab PzSrK! Fortunately the Stab MG that covered full MG withdrawal suppressed them.

My PzIV advance to E Summit Rd continues.

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Phase 10b set

Mount n_ATR on n_PiWg(222).

Stab PzSrk surrounded; targeting Sov Inf. Stab MG-Far targets that Inf too.

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10b play

Final Stab PzSkr deceased. (Those appearing and healing Sov tanks have really taken toll! grrr)

!!! Entire Sov North armour changing plan: rushing/advancing on Hill Farm over summit. My 81mrt coming in next turn non-purposefully right on their path.

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Turn 10 set

Cancel close sheaf 81Mrt since SU76s won't be there now.

SE woods s_222s & s_RecTr tweeking deployment to deal with Sov Pltn flank attack.

s_PzIV stop and face Sov armor assault.

n_PzII Luchs rushing to cover; one towards Sov and summit alee.

Withdrawing /PzV(Panthers). Then advance to CenterWoods high spot and engage Sov armour flanks.

StabMG-Far shooting Sov Inf breecher. Hopefully will draw T-70 turret, so my n_ATR Inf and _PzIII can get bead on him.

(That Sov change of plan is possibly good move. Shakes things up.)


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Soviet change of plan as seen from maintenance:




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11 Play

Sov armour charge still coming.

More sov Inf dead --including that North breecher.

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Phase 11b set

Tweek.

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11b play

Contact!

One SU76 gone for one s_PzIV. (I believe the n_PzIILuchs3 that rushed forward scored that kill at point blank.)

n_PzIILuchs3 under fire from lead SU76.

/Le.Mrt under fire from Sov armour.

Sov SE Flanking pltn bravely charging my positions.

German105mm arti arrives [offmap].

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Turn 12 set

/PzV have long range bead on lead SU76 stopped to fire on n_PzIILuchs3. (One /PzV keeps moving to center woods high point, though.)

/ArmdMaint(Pio) throwing smoke to cover moving /le.mrt. Also, rushing back the 250, just in case mrt wounded or suppressed.

/PzGrn1 spotting 150 on summit; StabMG far spot 105 on Russian rear. (Hopefully get a lucky ATG hit).


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Sov South East commandos repeled:



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12 Play

Last three SU76s dead from /PzV. (n_PzIILuchs3 survives! I knew that was a good plan.)

Last of Sov Inf in HillFarm Woods destroyed by /PzGrn2 [Payback for earlier [pre game] decimation. ;-)]

Sov Inf rushes over summit and gets in on n_PzIILuchs 3.

StabMG-Far took more casualties. Can't get bead on T-70 from my n_ATR or advancing Command tank (_PzIII). All that smoke is turning into a nuisance --especially since the Stab PzShrk all died anyway.

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Phase 12b set

All available Inf targeting that Sov Inf rushing in on n_PzIILuchs3 (popped out of holes if necessary).

/Le.mrt no longer in danger: indirect on that rushing Inf ('leading'); indirect also on the SE woods 'commandos'.

s_PzIV targeting some Valentines [halt advance.]

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12b Play

Both Sov Inf squads near n_PzIILuchs3 dead. (Good /le.mortar leading eye)

SE woods attack stopped (but for the shouting).

Two Valentines dead --one from stopped /Panther, the other from lead s_PzIV.

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"DECISIVE VICTORY"

(Why not legendary? LOL Most things recovered or reformed. All but a light tank and a 222/5 --both Sturmovick kills.)


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View from SE woods heights north to Hillfarm (after victory button pushed; ie some units are seen recovered):



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RE: Spellir(German) vs Falco(Russian) - 8/13/2009 3:51:27 AM   
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RE: Spellir(German) vs Falco(Russian) - 8/13/2009 3:54:26 AM   
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RE: Spellir(German) vs Falco(Russian) - 8/13/2009 3:57:29 AM   
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Assessment of enemy tactics:

-Horrible use of artillery. (_None_ on un dug in standing positions 'defending'.)

-Armour thrusts on set positons should have come as _lines abrest_ not columns. (Technically according to real life doctrine, as wedges --"panzer kriel"--so as to force enemy gunners to have to constantly reset sites.)

-poor use of terrain. [Hill slopes and wood patches can cover flanks.]


:should have covered assault on my MG/PzSrk by using _north slope_ of summit: LOS above my MG company but flank-protected from my southguns by summit.
:Valentines should have been part of the abrest-attack on my Stab truppen (doctrine is heavier tanks breakthough Inf/strongpoints, lighter exploit); all armour should have stayed out of range of PzShrk until well softened by arti and HE/MG direct (from hill slope alee).

:should have moved behind SE woods with tanks, covering full occupation of Hillfarm and East rd summit --denying me easy flanking run on Sov North rear. [Inf advance across field on set MG positions = bad.] Arti to SE woods and smoke screen due west of woods (blocking LOS); then maybe take 250point! flag (in SE wods) with Inf (and tanks).

:should have used inf to look/spot over summit and get bead on everything; Not SU76s in column! (SU76s should move about in Sov rear to ward off our Stab-spotted arti; then finally deploy to south-facing line just north of entire crest length, waiting...)

Once my Pz positions are moving (Sov arti chaos and my redeployments) --exposing Pz flanks-- advance SU76s _abrest_ to overwatch on summit _and East Summit Rd/Hillfarm_.

At the same time, massed attack _prongs_ (syncronized) attack west out of SE woods and _south around summit's west end_ (over my dead MG company up there) (with more smoke covering vulnerabilities).

:coordinate attacks: maximize fire/chaos from different directions; wide line. Patience.

CONCLUSION:
Enemy apparently wanted to set SU76s first (frontally vulnerable though long range deadly), to cover his attack prongs, underestimating my set position sightings on that summit; didn't revaluate quick enough, once my effective positions and fire took toll. No arti even after I exposed myself.


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Captured image of Sov _early_ SE advance:



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RE: Spellir(German) vs Falco(Russian) - 8/13/2009 3:58:16 AM   
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EPILOGUE:

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From Armee Gruppe so-und-so.
To Oberst Spellir (acting command, suriving remnants PzD_X_, furlouged):

First, congratulations on your victory.

Second, regarding the relieving of PzD_x_ Stab and ranking unter-keneral Dinklemyer, deceased.

There will be an investigation as to why Stab was not relieved more effectively.

Surving orderlies and etc of Divisional Stab state there was time to establish a relief operation.

You are ordered to appear in front of C-shaped panel at hearings occuring the 2nd of the coming month. You are relieved of active command, pending findings.

Signed,
Armee Gruppe so-und-so, Stab

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Inter dept memo, PzD_x_

From Maj Befel.
To Oberst Spellir:

Spell!

Heard about the hearings. Pure craziness.

Regarding command: It isn't me but Schmet they put in charge.

Apparently he's some general's nephew!

Good luck.

Signed,
Major Befel,
rear post PzD_x_.

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RE: Spellir(German) vs Falco(Russian) - 8/13/2009 4:01:03 AM   
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Will we hear from Falco?

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RE: Spellir(German) vs Falco(Russian) - 8/13/2009 4:06:30 AM   
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He wasn't making an AAR.

As far as his take on those appearing and healing T-70s, I don't know...

They could be accident, developing as side effect of getting his turns out of sync early on.

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RE: Spellir(German) vs Falco(Russian) - 8/13/2009 7:26:46 AM   
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hey Spellir,
thanks for AAR. you have some nice screen shots there!

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RE: Spellir(German) vs Falco(Russian) - 8/13/2009 2:51:34 PM   
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Congratulations Spellir on a good (legendary?) victory.

Also your AAR is first-rate. Very well done. You obviously put an enormous amount of time into it.

A couple of points......In any battle with Panthers vs T-70s & Valentines, there simply is no contest.

The T-70 you said reappeared in fact did not, it was there all the time. I did not get my turns out of sync.

Lastly it wasnt for want of trying that my Artillery wasnt used. It simply wouldnt work. The fire option never
came on the whole battle.

I would like to play you again in something that is a little more evenly matched next time.

- falco.



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RE: Spellir(German) vs Falco(Russian) - 8/13/2009 3:28:22 PM   
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Thanks to both of you. I await the rematch.

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RE: Spellir(German) vs Falco(Russian) - 8/14/2009 12:09:56 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: falco

Congratulations Spellir on a good (legendary?) victory.


It was decisive. What did your version say? Seriously I'd like to know. If your's says legendary defeat, then that is odd.

quote:


Also your AAR is first-rate. Very well done. You obviously put an enormous amount of time into it.



Thanks.

It is one way to do it. It is little tough on those who weren't there, I think. Maybe a screen shot posted every phase would have made it more understandable.

quote:


A couple of points......In any battle with Panthers vs T-70s & Valentines, there simply is no contest.



quote:


The T-70 you said reappeared in fact did not, it was there all the time. I did not get my turns out of sync.


Well something was/is wrong. I checked the games saves again just now and I am right.

I have the games saves. I will upload directions to a zip of them next post.

I need for someone to get to the bottom of this because something similar happen with JMass too a while back. He said it might be because the turns got out of sync.

quote:


Lastly it wasnt for want of trying that my Artillery wasnt used. It simply wouldnt work. The fire option never came on the whole battle.



Oh. I know it is difficult playing for the Russians in PzC. There is a timing touch to it. And I don't have it yet.

...I mean I'd still win and all with the Russians --I just wouldn't be able to think in terms of keeping everyone alive.

quote:


I would like to play you again in something that is a little more evenly matched next time.

- falco.











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RE: Spellir(German) vs Falco(Russian) - 8/14/2009 12:13:10 PM   
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discrepancy pack

for phases 7react to 8order (see tank position change)

and then 8react to 9order (see dead tank come back to life)

LINK

http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=2206111


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RE: Spellir(German) vs Falco(Russian) - 9/5/2009 11:06:43 PM   
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Well my friend....you havn't answered my request for another game thus far.

Are you up for it or are you content to rest on your laurel(s?) for the rest of the duration??

- falco.

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RE: Spellir(German) vs Falco(Russian) - 9/5/2009 11:33:35 PM   
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quote:

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Well my friend....you havn't answered my request for another game thus far.

Are you up for it or are you content to rest on your laurel(s?) for the rest of the duration??

- falco.


Hello Falco!!

Sorry to ignore you.

>>>>>>>>>>
Well my friend....you havn't answered my request for another game thus far.

Are you up for it or are you content to rest on your laurel(s?) for the rest of the duration??

>>>>>>>>>>>

I didn't mean to avoid you or rest on laurels. It's worse than that...

I was and still am neck deep in patch concerns.

When the beta goes public we could play a game with that. Okay?

I got Mobius first in a 'private' beta _once the patch gets off the stove_. And then you.

I can't very well take a leisurely stroll into the land of "blood and veins in my teeth and stuff" so long as the hand of doom looms great.


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