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Can infantry treat cavalry with impunity here? - 7/1/2009 5:19:36 PM   
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Are you sure Cavalry is working appropriately? I play more Napoleonic than Seven Years War and I understand most of the SYW infantry is more professional than the bulk of Napoleonic infantry but it seems Cavalry (and combined arms) can be ignored by Infantry here.

Cavalry aren’t forced in to square by a frontal charge, right? It’s my understanding that unless part of a continuous line (many many regiments drawn up in line together) Cavalry would swirl around the flanks of a single regiment caught in the open, even if attacking from the front (and destroy them).

If forced into square, the square seems not to hurt the abiltiy of the Infantry square much. I thought if you could force infantry into square then bring up a regiment in line you would shoot the square to pieces (because you would have many more muskets brought to bear) and that artillery would do severe damage due to the depth of the square. But the squares just seem to sit there and shoot it out with infantry lines.

I have had squares broken by Cavalry. IIRC that only happened twice in all of the Napoleonic Wars, both special cases (a horse fell on the square in one case, wiping out much of one face of the square). Even when squares would form so late that Cavalry were trapped inside the newly formed square the infantry would just slaughter those few trapped cavalry and the square would hold. Once formed, a square should be pretty impervious to Cavalry (but at a huge disadvantge vs artillery as noted above)

And worst of all, Infantry seem able to walk up to or even around Cavalry, maneuver right across thier front, and attack the Cavalry with impunity.

I realize you probably can’t add an opportunity charge at this late date but at the very least infantry should be frozen if it crosses in front of Cavalry, or perhaps have to take a (very disadvantageous) morale check for each square it enters in a Cavalry charge zone. Perhaps Morale Check with a 40 modifier at 2 hexes from the front of the Cavalry and with an 80 percent modifier at one hex.

At the moment it seems infantry can walk across the front of a cavalry unit, move to their flank, then shoot up the Cavalry while the Cavalry just stand there.

Admittedly I have only played a few hours. Is it so that Infantry can treat Cavalry with impunity? I don't see much effect gained by combined arms here.


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RE: Can infantry treat cavalry with impunity here? - 7/5/2009 3:59:54 PM   
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Beezle,

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I have had squares broken by Cavalry. IIRC that only happened twice in all of the Napoleonic Wars, both special cases (a horse fell on the square in one case, wiping out much of one face of the square).


As a note aside, I know of two cases where this happen at Quatre Bras, where Kellerman overran two square of Dutch-Belgium infantry before being forced to retire.

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Cavalry aren’t forced in to square by a frontal charge, right?


Good question. The only time I use cavalry in a frontal assault is a) against other cavalry and b) against infantry only when I can at the minimum hit a flank(s) and/or rear. I never charge infantry head on save only when they are demoralized and have high disruption for obvious reasons.

You must have played Rifles before with the comment about reaction charges. I was one of the people who helped on this game and I'll pass your post on so it doesn't get lost in the shuffle.

Bear this in mind, it only takes an infantry unit five commands to go from column to line to the fire command, but your point is well taken.

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RE: Can infantry treat cavalry with impunity here? - 7/5/2009 8:03:40 PM   
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Yes indeed. But more than that an entire mispent youth and adulthood with table top miniatures

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