ORIGINAL: castor troy
ORIGINAL: Chris H
Historical the US lost 50+ subs during the war spread evenly through out it duration.
The number and effectiveness of US subs increased markedly towards the end of 1943 to such and extent that the Japaesed lost 5,0000,000+ tons of shipping in total to US subs and for one period during 1944 were sinking 50 ish ships per week.
In the game the best Jap a/c is the Liz but this isn't available in Stock. Use you a/c to find them and PC to sink them.
while Allied subs can be a real pain in the game, the usual outcome in a PBEM is the subs being far more impotent than they were in real life.
That might be because in real life, most of the pre-war skippers were replaced for not being agressive. How many players really take the effort to change out every skipper, and how many just leave the timid ones in place?
i have, but with tepid results.
You get a bit on increased number of attacks when you change them out... but you are not going to approach actual war numbers of ships sunk, nor tonnage if you bother to calculate that... the best results i've seen was by Speedy in his game against fabertong, but even that wasn't nearly what was historical.
The game gets better results with IJA ASW (although IJN is emasculated, as noted)... with stock, there are way more aircraft than what there were in actual events... the two combine to really put the hurt on any sub efforts.
Maybe in CHS you'd get better results, but, in our Threadwar game i think we had >50 consecutive attacks by Allied subs that all failed recently... something like 2-3 weeks without a single hit. The war is yet young, however, and i am hoping that things will improve.
There is also a weird bug (?glitch ?feature) that keeps popping up where a sub will "intercept" ships in a port hex... reports an attack, but no ship is seen, nothing seems to happen (sometimes animations don't even run for the "attack")... this happened 4x for the same sub in the prior turn, and 2-3x turn for multiple days before that... when you get several subs doing this, it makes for a frustrating sub war.
i don't know if anyone has mentioned this before, but i thought i'd bring it up here to see if this is a general problem or a "one-off" thing.
EDIT: i should mention that i've always seen this as a sporadic situation, but it seems to have become a more generalized problem in our game lately.
< Message edited by rtrapasso -- 7/1/2009 2:00:51 PM >