Sorry *Buzzsaw*, your contention was that no green 1-Star General would ever be promoted 4-Star General, that such a thing would "never happen"; a statement that is entirely incorrect however you wish spin a response or to split hairs.
By definition and as related to the opening phases of the Civil War all were "green" regardless of previous service or experiance. None had ever held more than district command and most had never even commanded a brigade as a maneuver unit since such formations did not really exist in the 'Old Army'.
Five of the 8 Confederate full generals were promoted from the rank of Brig General or lower straight to full general, a rather common occurance in the actual event.
As for NO examples of generals being promoted over others, Lt. General John Bell Hood (Lt Gen from 20 September 1863) was promoted temporary full General with seniority from 18 July 1864 over the heads of Longstreet, Hardee, Holmes, Ewell, A.P. Hill and D.H. Hill. All were promoted Lt General before Hood and therefore all were his senior.
One should beware of using absolutes when discussing history, there are usually exceptions to anything and some of those can be significant.
I have already proven your assertions re. the first 5 Confederate full Generals to be incorrect.
Your assertion that effectively their experience didn't matter is complete nonsense. The US Army in 1861 was a very small group, everyone knew everyone else's abilities, that applied to all those who went over to the Confederacy. Lee was recognized for his record at West Point, (first in his class, first in Artillery and tactics, etc.) as well as exploits in the Mexican American war as an very brave, intelligent and efficient officer. Same applied to the others who were appointed.
Re. Hood, your facts are wrong again. For one, there were only 7 full Generals ever in the Confederate Army.
Hood was appointed by Davis as TEMPORARY full General, that rank was NEVER approved by the Confederate senate.
He was promoted from a position as a Lieutenant General, and Corps commander, ie. the equivalent of a 3 star general. He was not promoted over the head of an available full '4 star' General.
Re. your suggestions for those who he was promoted over, your facts are all wrong again:
Longstreet had been seriously wounded in May of 1864 at the Wilderness and was in no condition to take command of an army. Ewell had been suffering from the effects of several previous wounds and was considered by Lee to be mentally incapable of commanding even a Corps. He was relieved by Lee. With Longstreet and Ewell unavailable, AP Hill was one of the few remaining experienced Corps commanders left in the Army of N Virginia and couldn't be spared. Hardee didn't want the post. Holmes was considered incompetent. DH Hill was only a Major General, of lower rank than Hood. (he had been demoted by Davis)
So who does that leave us? Hood. Plus Hood had been sucking up to Davis, writing him letters, etc. promising how much better he could do than Johnson.
Hood's promotion is a situation which I have no problem with, ie. a 3 star general being promoted to 4 star. Big difference between that and what happens in the game, where you can have a 1 star general appear as a reinforcment, and the same turn, you can promote him to 4 star.
That is exactly what I do with Grant. I demote enough Union Generals to leave an opening for a 4 star, so that Grant immediately goes 4 star.
< Message edited by *Buzzsaw* -- 2/3/2009 10:02:31 PM >