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Name This AE...79 - 9/18/2008 4:42:48 PM   
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RE: Name This AE...79 - 9/18/2008 4:49:36 PM   
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HMS Dorsetshire sinking?
Anyway, a type County CA, not in the best shape...

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RE: Name This AE...79 - 9/18/2008 5:08:09 PM   
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HMAS Canberra?

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RE: Name This AE...79 - 9/18/2008 5:10:26 PM   
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Think LST nailed it.

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RE: Name This AE...79 - 9/18/2008 6:40:58 PM   
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As LST said, it's HMAS Canberra 

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RE: Name This AE...79 - 9/18/2008 7:15:56 PM   
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HMAS Canberra ("Kent" type) spent her entire war career in Australian waters and the Indian Ocean on patrol and escort duties. She was a unit within Task Force 44 which was heavily defeated by the Japanese at Savo Island (9th August 1942). Radar on picket ships failed to give warning of the Japanese approach, and the squadron was caught by surprise in the dark. Canberra was struck by at least two Japanese "Long Lance" torpedoes - the hardest-hitting in the world at that time - and 24 8-inch shells fired at the very close range of around 5,000 metres. The damage rendered her inactive, but still afloat. However, inspection the following day revealed that she was beyond economical repair. She was given the "coup de grace" by American torpedo

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RE: Name This AE...79 - 9/18/2008 10:11:46 PM   
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Canberra was the only Kent that went unmodernized by belt armor and added emergency diesel generators (which were sitting on the pier awaiting installation when she left Australia for the last time).
She wasn't hit by any Japanese torpedoes, Long Lance or otherwise. The Australians never reported it, and the story originated with the Americans. This has given rise to conspiracy theories about "friendly" torpedo hits from an American destroyer. In fact, there's only the most limited evidence of any torpedo hits prior to the ones used in the scuttling attempt (which proved inadequate--it was like a preview of the Hornet scuttling). Canberra was not beyond economical repair; she was scuttled because someone far away thought she was in immediate danger of capture.

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RE: Name This AE...79 - 9/19/2008 4:11:43 PM   
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HMAS Canberra, it is

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RE: Name This AE...79 - 9/20/2008 1:17:53 PM   
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Canberra was the only Kent that went unmodernized by belt armor and added emergency diesel generators (which were sitting on the pier awaiting installation when she left Australia for the last time).
She wasn't hit by any Japanese torpedoes, Long Lance or otherwise. The Australians never reported it, and the story originated with the Americans. This has given rise to conspiracy theories about "friendly" torpedo hits from an American destroyer. In fact, there's only the most limited evidence of any torpedo hits prior to the ones used in the scuttling attempt (which proved inadequate--it was like a preview of the Hornet scuttling). Canberra was not beyond economical repair; she was scuttled because someone far away thought she was in immediate danger of capture.


There is a book "The Shame of Savo" ISBN 1 86373 650 6 written by Bruce Loxton (who was a midshipman on the bridge of the Canberra at the time) which deals with this issue. The evidence of friendly fire is circumstantial but very compelling and is presented in a very succinct manner.

As a kid, I remember reading an article in the Pix People magazine (the stalwart of journalism that it was) from the 60's where a crewman describes seeing a gaping great hole in the starboard side of the ship as he was leaving the ship. This occurred before any of the scuttling attempts.

I also find it interesting that Ballard very diplomatically only examined the port (enemy) side of the Canberra in all of his published material for the "Lost Ships of Guadalcanal" TV program and books.

BTW, the very photo above is on the cover of Bruce Loxton's book.

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