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RE: Defeating the Devil !!! ( aka Damian ) - 10/2/2008 2:07:23 PM   
Nemo121

 

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Today was another Adlertag with hundreds of Japanese planes sortieing to attack my ships off Ye and the majority of those planes being downed. In the last 12 days the Japanese have gone from having lost 2000 planes to having lost 3,300. In addition many of those planes ( at least 700 to 800) have gone down over my territory which means their pilots have gone down with them. Furthermore as at least 300 of those losses were Zeroes with another 150 to 200 naval bombers also being downed that means that some 500 IJN elite naval aviators have been killed in the past fortnight.

Damian sent his BBs in again overnight but I was expecting this and had gone out to sea.

I've been looking at the situation and with so many naval bombers attacking me here I have the opportunity to strike elsewhere. Time to begin loading up in Oz and Hawaii and heading for my Phase 2 targets.

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TF 74 encounters mine field at Kwajalein [Nanyo] (81,84)

Japanese Ships
MSW W.20
MSW W.19
MSW W.12
MSW W.11
DD Hayabusa, Mine hits 1, on fire

Ah, more mine hits.

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ASW attack near Batavia [Java] at 20,60

Japanese Ships
DD RTN Chandraburi
DD RTN Puket
PC Ch 9
PC Ch 8
DE Asagao
DD Yayoi
DD Wakaba
DD Asagumo

Allied Ships
SS KXI

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Moulmein [Burma] at 30,34

Japanese Ships
PT Gyoraitei No 4
PT Gyoraitei No 5
PT Gyoraitei No 6

Allied Ships
AK Empire Wagtail

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Ye [Burma] at 29,35

Japanese Ships
BB Haruna
BB Nagato
BB Hyuga
BB Yamashiro
CA Takao
CA Myoko
CA Kumano
DD Natsushio
DD Hayate
DD Yamakaze
DD Hitachi

Allied Ships
AK Empire Nightingale, Shell hits 4, and is sunk

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Ye [Burma] at 29,35

Japanese Ships
BB Haruna
BB Nagato
BB Hyuga
BB Yamashiro
CA Takao
CA Myoko
CA Kumano
DD Natsushio
DD Hayate
DD Yamakaze
DD Hitachi

Allied Ships
AK Larut, Shell hits 4, and is sunk

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Ye [Burma] at 29,35

Japanese Ships
BB Haruna
BB Nagato
BB Hyuga
BB Yamashiro
CA Takao
CA Myoko
CA Kumano
DD Natsushio
DD Hayate
DD Yamakaze
DD Hitachi

Allied Ships
AK Skagerak, Shell hits 35, and is sunk

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Ye [Burma] at 29,35

Japanese Ships
BB Haruna
BB Nagato
BB Hyuga
BB Yamashiro
CA Takao
CA Myoko
CA Kumano
DD Natsushio
DD Hayate
DD Yamakaze
DD Hitachi

Allied Ships
AK Ngow Hok, Shell hits 7, and is sunk

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Naval bombardment of Ye [Burma], at 29,35

Japanese Ships
CA Kumano
CA Myoko
CA Takao
BB Yamashiro
BB Hyuga
BB Nagato
BB Haruna


Allied ground losses:
77 casualties reported
Guns lost 2
Vehicles lost 1

Quite an ineffective bombardment.

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TF 32 encounters mine field at Wake Island [USA] (85,72)

Japanese Ships
LCVP AG-1464A, Mine hits 1, on fire, heavy damage


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ASW attack near Ye [Burma] at 29,35

Japanese Ships
SS RO-67, hits 7

Allied Ships
PG Shoreham, heavy damage
PG Lawrence, heavy damage
PC Sonavati
AK Empire Launcelot
MSW Cromer
AK Wosang
PG Yarra
PC Parvati
PC Pathan
SC Jasmine
TK Erling Brovig
AK Katong
AK Empire Bond
TK Ondina
SC Genista

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Day Air attack on Sovetskaya Gavan , at 73,30

Japanese aircraft
A5M4 Claude x 3
D3A2 Val x 9
B5N2 Kate x 39
Ki-43-I Oscar x 28

Japanese aircraft losses
D3A2 Val: 1 damaged
B5N2 Kate: 1 destroyed

Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 4
Runway hits 14

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Day Air attack on Sovetskaya Gavan , at 73,30

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zeke x 7
D3A2 Val x 29

Japanese aircraft losses
D3A2 Val: 2 damaged

Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 9

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Day Air attack on Hengchow [S China] , at 44,37

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 17
Ki-32 Mary x 9

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 1 damaged


Allied ground losses:
6 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 8

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Day Air attack on Changsha [S China] , at 45,37

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zeke x 10

No Japanese losses

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Day Air attack on Ye [Burma] , at 29,35

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zeke x 44

Allied aircraft
P-40B Tomahawk x 6
P-40E Warhawk x 3
P-43A Lancer x 6
Hurricane I x 24
Kittyhawk I x 6
Lancer x 12
Spitfire VB x 24
I-16 Type 24 x 26
MiG-3 x 26
Yak-1 x 10

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zeke: 30 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-43A Lancer: 3 destroyed
Lancer: 1 destroyed
I-16 Type 24: 4 destroyed
MiG-3: 2 destroyed
Yak-1: 1 destroyed

30 more elite IJN pilots are shot down over Ye and lost to the IJN forever while I lose TWO modern fighters ( MiG-3s ) and 11 second-line fighters. Over half of the pilots survive and live to fight another day.

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Day Air attack on Port Blair [Andaman] , at 23,34

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zeke x 26

Allied aircraft
I-16 Type 24 x 30

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zeke: 3 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
I-16 Type 24: 6 destroyed

Lots of replacements for the I-16s. I don't know why he is striking here when he is achieving little of value. The attrition isn't so favourable as to make this diversion of effort from Ye justifiable.

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Day Air attack on Bangkok [Thailand] , at 29,39

These high level raids must be REALLY annoying

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zeke x 17
Ki-44IIa Tojo x 1

Allied aircraft
B-17D Fortress x 67
P-40E Warhawk x 4
Lancer x 6
Spitfire VB x 6

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zeke: 2 destroyed
E13A1 Jake: 1 destroyed
G4M1 Betty: 2 destroyed
H6K2-L Mavis: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Lancer: 2 destroyed
Spitfire VB: 1 destroyed

Japanese ground losses:
30 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 5

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Day Air attack on Bankha [Sumatra] , at 20,47

Japanese aircraft
Ki-51 Sonia x 30

No Japanese losses

Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 17

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Day Air attack on Bankha [Sumatra] , at 20,47

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zeke x 24
Ki-32 Mary x 17

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-32 Mary: 1 destroyed, 3 damaged

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 4

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Day Air attack on Bankha [Sumatra] , at 20,47

Japanese aircraft
Ki-32 Mary x 7

No Japanese losses

Airbase hits 1

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Day Air attack on Bandjermasin [BNO] , at 27,64

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zeke x 19
G4M1 Betty x 24
Ki-21-II Sally x 34

No Japanese losses

Airbase hits 10
Airbase supply hits 4
Runway hits 35

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Day Air attack on Bandjermasin [BNO] , at 27,64

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 18

No Japanese losses

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Day Air attack on Soerabaja [Java] , at 23,66

Japanese aircraft
G3M2 Nell x 24
Ki-32 Mary x 27

Allied aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
G3M2 Nell: 1 destroyed, 5 damaged
Ki-32 Mary: 4 destroyed, 7 damaged

Allied aircraft losses


Allied ground losses:
4 casualties reported

Airbase hits 9
Airbase supply hits 5
Runway hits 42

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Day Air attack on Manila/Cavite [PH] , at 43,52

Japanese aircraft
Ki-109E Mike x 23
Ki-32 Mary x 26
Ki-48-I Lily x 29
Ki-21-II Sally x 37
Ki-15II Babs x 5
Ki-46-II Dinah x 5

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-109E Mike: 1 destroyed, 3 damaged


Allied ground losses:
25 casualties reported
Vehicles lost 2

Airbase hits 3
Runway hits 86

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Day Air attack on Wake Island [USA] , at 85,72

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zeke x 6

Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 48

Japanese aircraft losses
D3A2 Val: 2 destroyed
E13A1 Jake: 1 destroyed
B5N2 Kate: 1 destroyed


Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 6

This continuous bombing of Wake must presage an invasion... mustn't it? Obviously it will if I spy Japanese weakness here but if Wake remains strong I'll detour it.

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Day Air attack on ROC 21st Field Army , at 49,40

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zeke x 28
Ki-32 Mary x 20

No Japanese losses

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Day Air attack on ROC 75th Guerilla Regiment, at 48,41

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zeke x 5
Ki-27 Nate x 27
Ki-15II Babs x 1

No Japanese losses

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Day Air attack on TF, near Ye [Burma] at 29,35

164 Japanese planes scream into the attack. As you can see they are quite low on Ki-21s and Ki-48s but the G4M numbers could still do with some culling.

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zeke x 69
G4M1 Betty x 83
Ki-44IIa Tojo x 3
Ki-48-II Lily x 1
Ki-21-II Sally x 8

Allied aircraft
P-40B Tomahawk x 6
P-40E Warhawk x 3
P-43A Lancer x 3
Hurricane I x 24
Kittyhawk I x 6
Lancer x 11
Spitfire VB x 24
I-16 Type 24 x 22
MiG-3 x 24
Yak-1 x 9

130 Allied fighters rise to meet them and in vicious fighting 60 Japanese planes and 61 Allied fighters are downed. Importantly though 45 Zeroes and 56 IJN elite aviators are destroyed during the day's fighting while only 23 first-line Allied fightes are downed. The remaining 38 fighters downed are obsolete models or are flown by very inexperienced Chinese pilots who have been ordered to gain experience or die in the skies over Ye.

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zeke: 45 destroyed
G4M1 Betty: 11 destroyed, 4 damaged
Ki-44IIa Tojo: 3 destroyed
Ki-21-II Sally: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-40B Tomahawk: 3 destroyed
P-40E Warhawk: 1 destroyed
P-43A Lancer: 3 destroyed
Hurricane I: 10 destroyed, 1 damaged
Kittyhawk I: 2 destroyed, 1 damaged
Lancer: 6 destroyed
Spitfire VB: 11 destroyed
I-16 Type 24: 12 destroyed
MiG-3: 9 destroyed, 1 damaged
Yak-1: 4 destroyed

Allied Ships
CA Georges Averoff, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
MSW Cromarty, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AK Matang
AK Empire Lynx, heavy damage
PG Lawrence, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
AK Wosang
TK Empire Jet, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
AK Empire Morn
AK Nord, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AK City of Canterbury, Torpedo hits 1, on fire


Allied ground losses:
9 casualties reported

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Day Air attack on TF, near Ye [Burma] at 29,35

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zeke x 20

Allied aircraft
P-40B Tomahawk x 3
P-40E Warhawk x 2
Hurricane I x 14
Kittyhawk I x 4
Lancer x 5
Spitfire VB x 13
I-16 Type 24 x 10
MiG-3 x 15
Yak-1 x 5

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zeke: 10 destroyed

Half of this Daitai met its death today.

Allied aircraft losses
Hurricane I: 2 destroyed
Lancer: 1 destroyed
I-16 Type 24: 2 destroyed, 1 damaged
MiG-3: 1 destroyed
Yak-1: 1 destroyed

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Day Air attack on TF at 28,35

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zeke x 19
Ki-21-II Sally x 21

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
AP Empire Chivalry
AP Eastern Prince, Bomb hits 1, heavy damage
AP Cap St. Jacques

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Day Air attack on TF at 29,34

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zeke x 10
G4M1 Betty x 5

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
AK Empire Wagtail, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage

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Day Air attack on TF at 90,68

The Japanese took the bait but, unfortunately, only a few of their planes attacked so the return on my lure was less than I would have liked.

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zeke x 9
B5N2 Kate x 16
E13A1 Jake x 3

Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 108

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zeke: 9 destroyed
B5N2 Kate: 13 destroyed
E13A1 Jake: 3 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4F-4 Wildcat: 16 destroyed, 1 damaged

Allied Ships
BB New Mexico

Still, 26 more IJN aviators who will be difficult to replace die today. It all adds up and helps lay the stage for the Phase 2 operations --- which is all that Burma is really aimed at doing.

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Day Air attack on TF, near Akyab [Burma] at 30,28

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zeke x 47
G4M1 Betty x 8

Allied aircraft
Hurricane I x 13
Spitfire VB x 7

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zeke: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Hurricane I: 7 destroyed
Spitfire VB: 1 destroyed

The first unfavourable exchange rate of the day.

Allied Ships
AK Empire Voice, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
AK Empire Puma, Torpedo hits 2, on fire


Allied ground losses:
72 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

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Ground combat at Umnak Island [AK]

This should fall in 1 to 2 days.

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 19713 troops, 274 guns, 142 vehicles, Assault Value = 644

Defending force 5499 troops, 236 guns, 20 vehicles, Assault Value = 118

Japanese max assault: 1322 - adjusted assault: 540

Allied max defense: 111 - adjusted defense: 265

Japanese assault odds: 2 to 1 (fort level 3)

Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 1


Japanese ground losses:
1030 casualties reported
Guns lost 27
Vehicles lost 12

Allied ground losses:
54 casualties reported
Guns lost 5


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Ground combat at Skovorodino [SIB]

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 225341 troops, 3092 guns, 1308 vehicles, Assault Value = 5503

Defending force 101091 troops, 1752 guns, 1 vehicles, Assault Value = 3114



Allied ground losses:
21 casualties reported


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Ground combat at Manila/Cavite [PH]

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 104203 troops, 1284 guns, 971 vehicles, Assault Value = 2725

Defending force 57076 troops, 1236 guns, 387 vehicles, Assault Value = 2151



Allied ground losses:
48 casualties reported
Guns lost 2


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Ground combat at Suva [FIJI]

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 15251 troops, 220 guns, 129 vehicles, Assault Value = 422

Defending force 4832 troops, 53 guns, 1 vehicles, Assault Value = 173


Japanese ground losses:
15 casualties reported
Guns lost 2


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Ground combat at Madicen [Java]

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 35726 troops, 719 guns, 601 vehicles, Assault Value = 889

Defending force 18301 troops, 259 guns, 58 vehicles, Assault Value = 467



Allied ground losses:
33 casualties reported
Guns lost 1


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Ground combat at Canton [S China]

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 31615 troops, 345 guns, 6 vehicles, Assault Value = 1749

Defending force 35588 troops, 430 guns, 73 vehicles, Assault Value = 640



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Ground combat at Umnak Island [AK]

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 4462 troops, 224 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 116

Defending force 18104 troops, 235 guns, 124 vehicles, Assault Value = 575


Overall over 100 Zeroes went down today and Japanese losses continue to be well over 2:1. I expect the Japanese to get serious about bombing and bombarding Ye over the next few days but, really, Ye has already done its job. The Japanese have spread their forces in Burma out more and the ground offensive from Mandalay is about to begin in earnest. In addition I'm airlifting troops into an airbase a little behind his lines and it looks like I might be able to cut off enemy troops trying to stem my advance south from Mandalay.

The ground pressure in Java and Manilla also looks like it is lowering a little and I'm thinking of trying a few little tricks in those two areas also to coincide with my invasions in the Pacific. All in all he has vastly over-committed aerially to Burma and he's let me wear his airforce down far too much, his ground forces are about to begin suffering from the Clausewitzian "Order, counter-order, disorder" maxim and I'm about to triple the number of theatres in which he is actively and closely engaged.

So far things are looking good, albeit extremely bloody.


10 Strategic Fanboy points to the first person who can guess which base is going to be the next one amphibiously invaded ( Initially I said invaded but obviously that is going to be Hanoi as my Chinese troops are marching there ).


< Message edited by Nemo121 -- 10/2/2008 2:34:34 PM >

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RE: Defeating the Devil !!! ( aka Damian ) - 10/2/2008 8:29:57 PM   
Capt. Harlock


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130 Allied fighters rise to meet them and in vicious fighting 60 Japanese planes and 61 Allied fighters are downed. Importantly though 45 Zeroes and 56 IJN elite aviators are destroyed during the day's fighting while only 23 first-line Allied fightes are downed. The remaining 38 fighters downed are obsolete models or are flown by very inexperienced Chinese pilots who have been ordered to gain experience or die in the skies over Ye.

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zeke: 45 destroyed
G4M1 Betty: 11 destroyed, 4 damaged
Ki-44IIa Tojo: 3 destroyed
Ki-21-II Sally: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-40B Tomahawk: 3 destroyed
P-40E Warhawk: 1 destroyed
P-43A Lancer: 3 destroyed
Hurricane I: 10 destroyed, 1 damaged
Kittyhawk I: 2 destroyed, 1 damaged
Lancer: 6 destroyed
Spitfire VB: 11 destroyed
I-16 Type 24: 12 destroyed
MiG-3: 9 destroyed, 1 damaged
Yak-1: 4 destroyed

Allied Ships
CA Georges Averoff, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
MSW Cromarty, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AK Matang
AK Empire Lynx, heavy damage
PG Lawrence, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
AK Wosang
TK Empire Jet, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
AK Empire Morn
AK Nord, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AK City of Canterbury, Torpedo hits 1, on fire


Very impressive performance in the air -- but I have to point out that when it comes to ship losses, Damien is beating the Allies like drum.

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In battle we wax cold:
Wherefore men fight not as they fought
In the brave days of old.
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RE: Defeating the Devil !!! ( aka Damian ) - 10/2/2008 10:23:11 PM   
Nemo121

 

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Well it has cost me less than 50 ships. Many of those ships are easily replaced MSWs and small patrol craft ( PCs etc ) although, to be fair, a few of my fast AP losses are going to hurt in the long run.  In return I've ( to date ) destroyed some 1400 Japanese planes ( including about 600 Zeroes ) over the past fortnight and I've landed jsut under 1,000 AV into Ye and Moulmein. Add to that the fact that Ye is going to reach Level 2 very quickly ( at which point in time Pe-2s will make the waters off Burma and Bangkok airfield complete no-go zones for the Japanese ) and I think it is well worth the loss of 50 ships.

The really great news apart from the 600 Zeroes and roughly 1,000 naval aviators killed in the past fortnight is that in the past 4 days it looks like about 150 G4Ms have been destroyed ( along with their pilots ). Since things have been going so well in terms of destroying the enemy's long-range naval aviation strike groups I've moved up my Pacific and DEI invasions. Those three major invasion fleets have begun loading today and should begin causing serious problems in 2 to 3 weeks time ( I will, again, phase these operations for greatest effect and misdirection) .

Still, everyone draws the line differently. I suppose the difference between my view and that of others is that war is all about achieving things at an acceptable cost. If the achievement is sufficient then one must pay that cost, whether that be 1 ship or 100 ships.

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RE: Defeating the Devil !!! ( aka Damian ) - 10/3/2008 8:29:59 PM   
Capt. Harlock


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Nemo121


Still, everyone draws the line differently. I suppose the difference between my view and that of others is that war is all about achieving things at an acceptable cost. If the achievement is sufficient then one must pay that cost, whether that be 1 ship or 100 ships.


I well remember your phrase that "Stalin has nothing on me when it comes to insensitivity to casaulties". Mind you, there is one fairly objective way of measuring the cost. What's the current score?


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In battle we wax cold:
Wherefore men fight not as they fought
In the brave days of old.
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RE: Defeating the Devil !!! ( aka Damian ) - 10/3/2008 11:47:41 PM   
Nemo121

 

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A few points in response:
1. The points score are calcuted on the same terms for both sides BUT one can certainly argue ( as I do ) that the point calculations are flawed as many IJN DDs cost the same in points terms as a half-dozen airplanes ( frankly preposterous ) and there is no differentiation in points terms between a single engined fighter and a four-engined strategic bomber.

2. Just because something is calculated equally for both sides doesn't mean that it actually gives a reasonable representation of the state of play.

E.g. Would anyone argue that an Allied player who has sunk all 6 IJN starting CVs at a cost of 6 USN BBs and some 600 planes by the end of December 1941 ( assuming no other losses ) is actually just EVEN with the Japanese? Of course not but in points terms and robbed of the context it is quite possible that the Japanese player would be shown as being ahead on points despite the fact that his ability to project power and push forward was now completely absent.


As to insensitivity to casualties. Well, if the casualties serve a purpose and that purpose is worth the cost then, yes, it is right to be insensitive to the casualties. Once the casualties exceed the possible return then one must be exceedingly sensitive to them. If you look at any combat report from my games you will be VERY hard pressed to find needless operations being run. Most players might mass 200 bombers at the Schwerpunkt and have another 400 scattered around the map raiding secondary bases, doing ASW work etc etc etc. Right there they could have two-thirds of their operational and FlAK losses occuring in unnecessary operations. THAT is wasteful.

What I prefer to do is concentrate those 600 bombers at the schwerpunkt. I believe that overall those 600 bombers will accomplish more in a shorter time such that their higher loss rate over a short period of time will:
a) achieve a LOT more than 200 bombers at the schwerpunkt plus 400 bombers scattered around doing useless missions - those 600 bombers taking, perhaps, 75 to 80% of the losses that the 600 bombers at the schwerpunkt might take.
b) result in far shorter operations such that the losses over the course of the operation will be a lot lower than if only two hundred bombers were used.

E.g. 200 bombers losing 10 per day over a 30 day campaign will result in the loss of 300 bombers in order to achieve the objective ( closing of an enemy base ). The other 400 bombers might lose 10 per day ( half the loss rate of the schwerpunkt bombers per sortie ) to all causes. End result 600 bomber result in a loss of 600 bombers over the course of 1 month before the base is closed and the ships and toops can be sent in.

E.g. 600 bombers losing 30 per day over a 15 day campaign will result in the loss of 450 bombers before the base is closed and the ships and troops can be sent in.

In addition by closing the base in 2 weeks instead of 4 weeks you get a greater operational tempo, get to play Boyd cycle games with the enemy commander's mind and give him or her the opportunity to observe the wrong things ( or fail to observe the right things ), interpret things they DO see incorrectly ( and very few people seek to interpret that which they do NOT see... That's one of the principle failings I notice when reading other AARs or way back when when I had a sort of "AAR Club" for Combat Mission which fostered dissection of play, interpretations and tactics ), make the wrong decision and then enact an inappropriate plan.

Overall Soviet doctrine argues ( and I agree ) that if you can play OODA games through superior operational tempo and applying force at crucial, reconned points ( through a recon-push as opposed to recon-following doctrine ) then you can dislocate and disrupt the enemy lines so quickly that even though your offensive might be rolling forward on rails ( the Soviet need to plan everything at higher HQ due to the lack of sergeants and junior officers with tactical nous ... thanks to the '38 purges ) the enemy will be so disrupted and dislocated that their observation, orientation, decisions and actions will be inappropriate to the situation at hand. And anytime you face an opponent whose orders are inappropriate you begin to win and win at a logarithmically favourable rate.

If you take away the need to follow a pre-planned phasing etc etc and allow operational and tactical flexibility then so long as you don't start second-guessing yourself and creating a Clausewitzian "Order, counter-order, disorder" situation then you should be fine and still generate a downward spiral in the enemy's situational awareness and response appropriateness.


None of those factors can be taken into account by any points score and that's one of the reasons I don't think giving it here would be of much value. I'm happy to discuss this as I'm certain some will disagree with my views regarding the Boyd ( OODA cycle ) and the fact that quicker operational tempos can actually result in fewer casualties for a given objective albeit with higher casualties per unit time.

If anyone is interested in reading on this I'd suggest Van Creveld and any study of the British Army in 1944. Monty has always gotten a bad rap for his conduct in 1944 but if you look into it what he actually did was ALL subjugated to one clear principle ---- The British Army could generate x replacements per week for an almost indefinite period of time but could only generate MORE than that number by disbanding existing units. Thus, to a certain point, it was PREFERABLE for the British Army to fight a LONG war at a relatively low casualty rate per week as opposed to a SHORT high intensity war ( a la Patton ) EVEN if that longer war resulted in more casualties. This question of tempo vs objective vs casualties is well illustrated in this period of history.

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 05/25/42

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TF 23 encounters mine field at Kwajalein [Nanyo] (81,84)

Japanese Ships
MSW W.20
MSW W.19
MSW W.12
MSW W.11

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Sub attack near Moulmein [Burma] at 30,34

Japanese Ships
SS RO-64

Allied Ships
AK Hosang, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
DD Norman
PG Shoreham, heavy damage

Enemy ships routinely run into Moulmein and Ye and there's little I can do to stop them right now. Ye is 50% of the way to Level 2 and at that point in time it will become a base for Avengers and Pe-2s and I should be safe from further surface strike groups. Until then my supply situation is going to be VERY precarious.

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Coastal Guns at Moulmein [Burma], 30,34, firing at TF 1003
TF 1003 troops unloading over beach at Moulmein [Burma], 30,34


415 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Allied Ships
DD Norman, Shell hits 3


Allied ground losses:
245 casualties reported

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Day Air attack on Hanoi [Tonkin] , at 36,37

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
Hudson IV x 21

Japanese aircraft losses
G5N2-L Liz: 1 destroyed
Ki-264-L: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Hudson IV: 2 destroyed, 2 damaged

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 1

*sigh* I'd been waiting to see lots of air transports at Hanoi for a while and today sent in over 100 bombers at 3000 feet. Unfortunately only 20 flew and my plan to kill dozens of bombers came to naught.

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Day Air attack on Sovetskaya Gavan , at 73,30

Japanese aircraft
A5M4 Claude x 34
D3A2 Val x 28
Ki-27 Nate x 28

Japanese aircraft losses
D3A2 Val: 2 damaged
Ki-27 Nate: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged


Allied ground losses:
5 casualties reported

Airbase hits 3
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 21

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Day Air attack on Hengchow [S China] , at 44,37

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 18
Ki-32 Mary x 10

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
20 casualties reported

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 17

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Day Air attack on Changsha [S China] , at 45,37

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zeke x 9

No Japanese losses

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Day Air attack on Changsha [S China] , at 45,37

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 21

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 3 destroyed, 5 damaged

Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 3

Lots and lots of costly and absolutely pointless Japanese aerial operations. Why isn't he using these in the Pacific or over Burma?

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Day Air attack on Bankha [Sumatra] , at 20,47

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zeke x 12
Ki-51 Sonia x 28
Ki-15II Babs x 2

Allied aircraft
no flights

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
No Allied losses

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 16

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Day Air attack on Bankha [Sumatra] , at 20,47

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zeke x 22
Ki-32 Mary x 20
Ki-48-I Lily x 11

Allied aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-48-I Lily: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
A-20B Boston: 1 destroyed

Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 35

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Day Air attack on Bankha [Sumatra] , at 20,47

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-II Sally x 21

Allied aircraft
no flights

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
A-20B Boston: 1 destroyed

Runway hits 30

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Day Air attack on Manila/Cavite [PH] , at 43,52

Japanese aircraft
Ki-27 Nate x 27
Ki-109E Mike x 22
Ki-32 Mary x 27
Ki-48-I Lily x 54
Ki-21-II Sally x 36
Ki-15II Babs x 4
Ki-46-II Dinah x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-27 Nate: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
Ki-109E Mike: 3 destroyed, 1 damaged
Ki-32 Mary: 1 destroyed
Ki-48-I Lily: 1 damaged


Allied ground losses:
89 casualties reported
Guns lost 3
Vehicles lost 1

Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 84

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Day Air attack on Wake Island [USA] , at 85,72

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zeke x 15

Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 46

No Japanese losses

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
16 casualties reported

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 4

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Day Air attack on ROC 21st Field Army , at 49,40

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zeke x 29
Ki-32 Mary x 17

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
8 casualties reported

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Day Air attack on Rangoon [Burma] , at 29,33

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zeke x 3
Ki-43-I Oscar x 13
Ki-109E Mike x 6

Allied aircraft
Pe-2 x 126

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zeke: 4 destroyed
Ki-43-I Oscar: 1 destroyed
Ki-109E Mike: 1 destroyed
Ki-32 Mary: 4 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Pe-2: 2 destroyed, 2 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
58 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Airbase hits 16
Airbase supply hits 6
Runway hits 45

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TF 98 troops unloading over beach at Bankha [Sumatra], 20,47


Japanese ground losses:
772 casualties reported


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Ground combat at Umnak Island [AK]

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 17430 troops, 221 guns, 120 vehicles, Assault Value = 547

Defending force 5303 troops, 220 guns, 18 vehicles, Assault Value = 112



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Ground combat at Skovorodino [SIB]

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 230135 troops, 3215 guns, 1312 vehicles, Assault Value = 5684

Defending force 101439 troops, 1766 guns, 1 vehicles, Assault Value = 3124



Allied ground losses:
20 casualties reported


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Ground combat at Suva [FIJI]

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 15375 troops, 226 guns, 131 vehicles, Assault Value = 423

Defending force 4863 troops, 51 guns, 1 vehicles, Assault Value = 176

Japanese max assault: 357 - adjusted assault: 152

Allied max defense: 181 - adjusted defense: 697

Japanese assault odds: 0 to 1 (fort level 4)


Japanese ground losses:
1147 casualties reported
Guns lost 24
Vehicles lost 5

Allied ground losses:
66 casualties reported
Guns lost 3


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Ground combat at Manila/Cavite [PH]

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 3198 troops, 144 guns, 96 vehicles, Assault Value = 2254

Defending force 56606 troops, 1211 guns, 383 vehicles, Assault Value = 2138



Allied ground losses:
5 casualties reported


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Ground combat at Moulmein [Burma]

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 20311 troops, 242 guns, 377 vehicles, Assault Value = 742

Defending force 15068 troops, 300 guns, 19 vehicles, Assault Value = 618


Japanese ground losses:
17 casualties reported
Guns lost 2


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Ground combat at 34,30

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 12820 troops, 176 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 726

Defending force 9138 troops, 146 guns, 25 vehicles, Assault Value = 322



Allied ground losses:
8 casualties reported
Guns lost 1


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Ground combat at Canton [S China]

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 31760 troops, 353 guns, 5 vehicles, Assault Value = 1753

Defending force 36540 troops, 451 guns, 83 vehicles, Assault Value = 677



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Ground combat at Umnak Island [AK]

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 4375 troops, 218 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 112

Defending force 17430 troops, 221 guns, 120 vehicles, Assault Value = 547







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(in reply to Capt. Harlock)
Post #: 35
RE: Defeating the Devil !!! ( aka Damian ) - 10/5/2008 9:42:47 PM   
Nemo121

 

Posts: 3755
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I missed a couple of turns but little happened except for massive Japanese aerial losses over Ye. The Brits are pretty much at the end of their tether so over the last 2 turns I've been pulling planes out. I don't need them there anymore anyways since my forces have managed to push south from Mandalay ( only 1 Bde was left to guard against my forces in Mandalay while 1 Division and 3 Bdes were pulled back to Moulmein to try to throw me out there. In addition it looks like 2 more Bdes were landed at Ye and another 2 Bdes are landing at Port Blair. That's 400 AV of Japanese reserves thrown into Ye and Port Blair which won't be available to defend Vietnam or the DEI when I hit them as well as 700 AV dislocated from south of Mandalay and drawn to the irrelevance that is Moulmein.

Harlock - This is a good example of an operation ( the landings at Ye and Moulmein ) which are, initially, a points loser but which were essential in dislocating the enemy line such that I can recapture all of Burma on the cheap and quickly.

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TF 79 troops unloading over beach at Bandjermasin [BNO], 27,64


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Coastal Guns at Ye [Burma], 29,35, firing at TF 81
TF 81 troops unloading over beach at Ye [Burma], 29,35


199 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Japanese Ships
MSW W.8

Japanese ground losses:
223 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
Vehicles lost 1

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Coastal Guns at Umnak Island [AK], 101,37, firing at TF 90
TF 90 troops unloading over beach at Umnak Island [AK], 101,37


504 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Japanese Ships
CA Chokai
DD Tanikaze

Japanese ground losses:
631 casualties reported
Guns lost 4

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ASW attack at 34,64

Japanese Ships
DD Hokaze
DD Sawakaze
DD Minekaze
DD Yamakaze

Allied Ships
SS S-41

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Sub attack near Olongapo/Bataan at 42,51

Japanese Ships
AK Myoko Maru, Torpedo hits 1
DD Amagiri

Allied Ships
SS O16

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Ye [Burma] at 29,35

Japanese Ships
BB Nagato
BB Hyuga
BB Yamashiro
CA Takao
CA Atago
CA Maya
CA Haguro
CA Mogami
CA Kumano

Allied Ships
PG Jumna, Shell hits 2, and is sunk
SC Hollyhock, Shell hits 5, and is sunk

Badly damaged and unable to move out of the way quickly enough.

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Ye [Burma] at 29,35

Japanese Ships
BB Nagato
BB Hyuga
BB Yamashiro
CA Takao
CA Atago
CA Maya
CA Haguro
CA Mogami
CA Kumano

Allied Ships
DD Lightning, Shell hits 3, and is sunk
TK Empire Reynolds, Shell hits 14, and is sunk

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Ye [Burma] at 29,35

Japanese Ships
BB Nagato
BB Hyuga
BB Yamashiro
CA Takao
CA Atago
CA Maya
CA Haguro
CA Mogami
CA Kumano

Allied Ships
PG Sutlej, Shell hits 6, and is sunk
SC Thyme, Shell hits 8, and is sunk

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Naval bombardment of Papaete [Tahiti], at 111,130

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
H6K4 Mavis: 1 destroyed

Allied Ships
BC Repulse
CA Exeter
CA Cornwall
CA Dorsetshire
CA Houston
CL Glasgow
CL Marblehead
CL Dauntless
CA Australia
BB Prince of Wales

Japanese ground losses:
263 casualties reported
Guns lost 5
Vehicles lost 1

Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 20
Port hits 3
Port supply hits 6

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ASW attack at 71,78

Japanese Ships
DD Toyota
APD Patrol Boat No. 36

Allied Ships
SS L-15

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Coastal Guns at Ye [Burma], 29,35, firing at TF 81
TF 81 troops unloading over beach at Ye [Burma], 29,35


170 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Japanese ground losses:
155 casualties reported

Allied ground losses:
3 casualties reported

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Coastal Guns at Umnak Island [AK], 101,37, firing at TF 90
TF 90 troops unloading over beach at Umnak Island [AK], 101,37


Japanese ground losses:
82 casualties reported

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Coastal Guns at Port Blair [Andaman], 23,34, firing at TF 95
TF 95 troops unloading over beach at Port Blair [Andaman], 23,34


48 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Japanese ground losses:
236 casualties reported

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Coastal Guns at Moulmein [Burma], 30,34, firing at TF 1038
TF 1038 troops unloading over beach at Moulmein [Burma], 30,34


72 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Allied ground losses:
45 casualties reported

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Coastal Guns at Moulmein [Burma], 30,34, firing at TF 1066
TF 1066 troops unloading over beach at Moulmein [Burma], 30,34



Allied ground losses:
8 casualties reported

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Sub attack near Olongapo/Bataan at 42,51

Japanese Ships
AK Yasukawa Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
DD Amagiri

Allied Ships
SS O16

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Sub attack near Moulmein [Burma] at 30,34

Japanese Ships
SS I-3

Allied Ships
AP Aorangi

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Day Air attack on Sovetskaya Gavan , at 73,30

Japanese aircraft
A5M4 Claude x 3
Ki-27 Nate x 3

Allied aircraft
no flights

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
PBY Nomad: 1 destroyed

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 2

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Day Air attack on Hengchow [S China] , at 44,37

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 20
Ki-32 Mary x 11

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 1 destroyed


Allied ground losses:
8 casualties reported

Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 15

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Day Air attack on Bankha [Sumatra] , at 20,47

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zeke x 13
Ki-32 Mary x 22
Ki-48-I Lily x 9

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-32 Mary: 2 destroyed, 2 damaged

Airbase hits 4
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 31

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Day Air attack on Manila/Cavite [PH] , at 43,52

Japanese aircraft
Ki-27 Nate x 23
Ki-109E Mike x 18
Ki-32 Mary x 27
Ki-48-I Lily x 54
Ki-21-II Sally x 36
Ki-15II Babs x 5
Ki-46-II Dinah x 5

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-27 Nate: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged
Ki-109E Mike: 2 destroyed, 1 damaged


Allied ground losses:
29 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
Vehicles lost 1

Airbase hits 4
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 143

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Day Air attack on ROC 36th Field Army , at 36,37

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zeke x 4
Ki-32 Mary x 3
Ki-15II Babs x 1

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
8 casualties reported

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Day Air attack on ROC 26th Field Army , at 36,37

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zeke x 16
Ki-32 Mary x 3

No Japanese losses

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Day Air attack on ROC 64th Field Army , at 43,41

Japanese aircraft
D3A2 Val x 26

Japanese aircraft losses
D3A2 Val: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged


Allied ground losses:
56 casualties reported
Guns lost 3

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Day Air attack on KNIL 2nd WS Garrison Battalion, at 20,47

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zeke x 1
G4M1 Betty x 11

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
10 casualties reported

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Day Air attack on TF at 90,69

This is interesting. I've been trying to get Damian to commit his strike groups so that I can whittle them down. Today I downed about 100 of them. My own losses were acceptable albeit that the F4F4 losses were heavier than anticipated. I have identified the reason for this and thus can take this into account for future operations. I have the reserves in pilots and planes to replace them and wasn't planning to begin any invasion movements for another week anyways so I won't even lose time in replacing these planes.

Midway is being built to a Level 3 port in order to facilitate replenishment etc.

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zeke x 17
B5N2 Kate x 23
G4M1 Betty x 40
Ki-21-II Sally x 11

Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 201

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zeke: 16 destroyed
B5N2 Kate: 22 destroyed
G4M1 Betty: 32 destroyed
Ki-21-II Sally: 10 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4F-4 Wildcat: 40 destroyed, 30 damaged

Allied Ships
CA Northampton
CA Louisville
CA Chicago
CA Chester

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Day Air attack on TF at 90,69

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zeke x 45
Ki-21-II Sally x 4

Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 161

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zeke: 9 destroyed
Ki-21-II Sally: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4F-4 Wildcat: 94 destroyed

Allied Ships
CV Lexington

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Day Air attack on TF at 27,35

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zeke x 2
B5N2 Kate x 3
E13A1 Jake x 2

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
AK Empire Bond, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AK Pangkor, heavy damage

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Day Air attack on Papaete [Tahiti] , at 111,130


Allied aircraft
Albacore x 33


No Allied losses

Airbase hits 2
Runway hits 5

A little diversionary raid around Papaete.

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Day Air attack on TF at 91,72

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zeke x 53
G4M1 Betty x 28
Ki-21-II Sally x 6

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 13 damaged

Allied Ships
CA Salt Lake City, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
CA Indianapolis

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ASW attack near Palau [Nanyo] at 51,68

Japanese Ships
DD Numakaze
DD Yukaze
DD Okikaze

Allied Ships
SS KXVI

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Sub attack at 102,63

Japanese Ships
SS RO-62

Allied Ships
TK Camden, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
TK H. M. Storey
TK Connecticut
TK Associated
TK Montebello
MSW Robin
MSW Vireo


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Ground combat at Umnak Island [AK]

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 17786 troops, 225 guns, 122 vehicles, Assault Value = 668

Defending force 5202 troops, 213 guns, 17 vehicles, Assault Value = 111

Japanese max assault: 1134 - adjusted assault: 498

Allied max defense: 104 - adjusted defense: 235

Japanese assault odds: 2 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Umnak Island [AK] base !!!

Japanese ground losses:
594 casualties reported
Guns lost 10
Vehicles lost 9

Allied ground losses:
4827 casualties reported
Guns lost 206
Vehicles lost 9


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Ground combat at Skovorodino [SIB]

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 207328 troops, 2638 guns, 1278 vehicles, Assault Value = 4830

Defending force 99348 troops, 1677 guns, 1 vehicles, Assault Value = 3070



Allied ground losses:
37 casualties reported
Guns lost 2


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Ground combat at Manila/Cavite [PH]

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 93281 troops, 1052 guns, 818 vehicles, Assault Value = 2390

Defending force 57081 troops, 1225 guns, 383 vehicles, Assault Value = 2160



Allied ground losses:
74 casualties reported
Guns lost 2


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Ground combat at Moulmein [Burma]

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 29795 troops, 276 guns, 929 vehicles, Assault Value = 904

Defending force 15669 troops, 319 guns, 19 vehicles, Assault Value = 627



Allied ground losses:
37 casualties reported
Guns lost 1


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Ground combat at Malang [Java]

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 3160 troops, 67 guns, 15 vehicles, Assault Value = 175

Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 0

Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 7

Japanese max assault: 131 - adjusted assault: 62

Allied max defense: 0 - adjusted defense: 1

Japanese assault odds: 62 to 1 (fort level 7)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Malang [Java] base !!!

Damian's trying to remove the little Level 2 bases around his perimeter I've been using to base torpedo and divebombers from time to time. This is an excellent diversion of his effort from crucial sectors like Vietnam and Burma.



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Ground combat at Bandjermasin [BNO]

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 2548 troops, 1 guns, 2 vehicles, Assault Value = 21

Defending force 112 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1

Japanese max assault: 18 - adjusted assault: 2

Allied max defense: 0 - adjusted defense: 1

Japanese assault odds: 2 to 1 (fort level 2)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Bandjermasin [BNO] base !!!



Allied aircraft
no flights


Allied aircraft losses
Dakota I: 4 destroyed
TBM-1 Avenger: 1 destroyed


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Ground combat at Bankha [Sumatra]

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 4171 troops, 58 guns, 11 vehicles, Assault Value = 217

Defending force 1119 troops, 13 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 22

Japanese max assault: 194 - adjusted assault: 24

Allied max defense: 15 - adjusted defense: 7

Japanese assault odds: 3 to 1 (fort level 2)

Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 1

Japanese ground losses:
23 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Allied ground losses:
73 casualties reported
Guns lost 2


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Ground combat at Lashio [Burma]

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 4064 troops, 46 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 215

Defending force 3624 troops, 44 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 120



Allied ground losses:
23 casualties reported
Guns lost 2


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Ground combat at 34,30

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 12885 troops, 174 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 731

Defending force 984 troops, 4 guns, 25 vehicles, Assault Value = 20

Allied max assault: 1334 - adjusted assault: 1932

Japanese max defense: 20 - adjusted defense: 6

Allied assault odds: 322 to 1

Japanese ground losses:
198 casualties reported
Guns lost 2
Vehicles lost 2

Allied ground losses:
12 casualties reported

Defeated Japanese Units Retreating!

Clearing the road from Lashio to Mandalay. Right now the Burma Road is about 1 week away from being re-opened.

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Ground combat at Canton [S China]

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 31672 troops, 348 guns, 4 vehicles, Assault Value = 1758

Defending force 37437 troops, 471 guns, 93 vehicles, Assault Value = 708



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Ground combat at 46,36

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 4674 troops, 71 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 499

Defending force 29376 troops, 489 guns, 10 vehicles, Assault Value = 1516



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Ground combat at Port Blair [Andaman]

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 1114 troops, 24 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 136

Defending force 1596 troops, 11 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 43



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Ground combat at Ye [Burma]

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 4349 troops, 156 guns, 2 vehicles, Assault Value = 264

My forces at Ye are being steadily reinforced with air-transported troops and supplies. Right now I'm pretty confident that Ye and Moulmein will hold until the 800 or so AV heading down from Mandalay can relieve them.

Defending force 8535 troops, 101 guns, 77 vehicles, Assault Value = 275


Japanese ground losses:
66 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Allied ground losses:
5 casualties reported
Guns lost 1


So what were the lessons learned here?
1. The Marine Fighter units are too inexperienced to stand and fight against Zeroes on a 1:1 basis. I lost 68 of 71 USMC F4s in comparison with 66 of 135 USN F4Fs. So USN aviators flying the exact same plane in the exact same mission had about a 50% chance of surviving while USMC aviators had only about a 5% chance of surviving. The only difference was an experience gap, showing just how crucial experience is in WiTP.

2.LOTS of CV planes doing naval search missions around Marcus Island. It also looks like there are ships in the Marcus hex and I think that means he is landing troops there.

3. In spite of his massive losses over Ye Damian is still willing to throw planes and pilots away in the Pacific. What this means is that he will continue flying full strength missions right up until the point in time that his force breaks but when it breaks it will break irretrievably and won't be easily salvaged. There will be no slow decline into impotence here but just a massive failure of his air force to muster the necessary airframes one day despite the fact that it flung hundreds of planes at me just 24 hours previously.

This is important since it means that there will be very little hint of an upcoming collapse right up until it actually hapens.

(in reply to Nemo121)
Post #: 36
RE: Defeating the Devil !!! ( aka Damian ) - 10/5/2008 10:14:52 PM   
Nemo121

 

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Coastal Guns at Ye [Burma], 29,35, firing at TF 81
TF 81 troops unloading over beach at Ye [Burma], 29,35


56 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Japanese Ships
AK Katsuragi Maru

Japanese ground losses:
68 casualties reported

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Coastal Guns at Port Blair [Andaman], 23,34, firing at TF 95
TF 95 troops unloading over beach at Port Blair [Andaman], 23,34


86 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Japanese ground losses:
34 casualties reported

More Japanese troops are being landed at Port Blair and Ye. This is just a waste of effort. Why land 400 AV in two bases when I can easily fly 200 AV into each base over the course of a couple of days. Wouldn't it be FAR better to use those 400 AV to bolster Burma and prevent me over-running it? If he had sent them to Burma 1 week ago then I wouldn't be advancing as I am right now.

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Coastal Guns at Moulmein [Burma], 30,34, firing at TF 1038
TF 1038 troops unloading over beach at Moulmein [Burma], 30,34


72 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Allied ground losses:
38 casualties reported

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ASW attack at 34,64

Japanese Ships
DD Hokaze
DD Sawakaze
DD Minekaze
DD Yamakaze

Allied Ships
SS S-41, hits 3

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Sub attack near Moulmein [Burma] at 30,34

Japanese Ships
SS I-3

Allied Ships
AK Empire Oryx

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ASW attack near Marcus Island [JP] at 76,62

Japanese Ships
DD Ushio
DD Oboro
DD Sagiri
DD Shiratsuyu

Allied Ships
SS SHCH129, hits 2, on fire

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Sub attack near Moulmein [Burma] at 30,34

Japanese Ships
SS I-3

Allied Ships
AK Empire Hunter

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Coastal Guns at Ye [Burma], 29,35, firing at TF 81
TF 81 troops unloading over beach at Ye [Burma], 29,35


Japanese ground losses:
19 casualties reported

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Coastal Guns at Port Blair [Andaman], 23,34, firing at TF 95
TF 95 troops unloading over beach at Port Blair [Andaman], 23,34


24 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Japanese ground losses:
31 casualties reported

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Coastal Guns at Port Blair [Andaman], 23,34, firing at TF 98
TF 98 troops unloading over beach at Port Blair [Andaman], 23,34


14 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Japanese ground losses:
209 casualties reported

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Coastal Guns at Moulmein [Burma], 30,34, firing at TF 1038
TF 1038 troops unloading over beach at Moulmein [Burma], 30,34


40 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Allied ground losses:
39 casualties reported

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Sub attack near Haiphong [Tonkin] at 37,38

Japanese Ships
AK Kano Maru

Allied Ships
SS KXVIII

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ASW attack at 102,63

Japanese Ships
SS RO-62, hits 2

Allied Ships
AVD Swan
AVD Avocet
AVD Ballard
AVD Chincoteague
AVD Mackinac
AVD Casco
PC Aurora
PC Atalanta

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Sub attack near Haiphong [Tonkin] at 37,38

Japanese Ships
AK Uyo Maru, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage

Allied Ships
SS KXVIII

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Sub attack near Palau [Nanyo] at 51,68

Japanese Ships
DD Okikaze
DD Numakaze
DD Yukaze

Allied Ships
SS KXVI

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Day Air attack on Sovetskaya Gavan , at 73,30

Japanese aircraft
A5M4 Claude x 34
Ki-27 Nate x 25

Japanese aircraft losses
A5M4 Claude: 2 destroyed

Airbase hits 2
Runway hits 10

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Day Air attack on Hengchow [S China] , at 44,37

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 17
Ki-32 Mary x 12

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 1 destroyed
Ki-32 Mary: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged


Allied ground losses:
11 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Airbase hits 3
Runway hits 22

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Day Air attack on Changsha [S China] , at 45,37

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 17

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 2 destroyed, 7 damaged

Runway hits 3

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Day Air attack on Ye [Burma] , at 29,35

I've been expecting this for some time which is why most of my air defence had been pulled out already. When Rangoon falls they'll be back and they will be all the stronger for the time they have spent re-organising and rebuilding their shattered ranks.

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zeke x 30
G3M2 Nell x 9
Ki-48-II Lily x 9
Ki-21-II Sally x 32

Allied aircraft
P-40B Tomahawk x 3
P-40E Warhawk x 3
Hurricane I x 8
Kittyhawk I x 9
Spitfire VB x 3
I-16 Type 24 x 20
LaGG-3 x 12
Yak-1 x 15

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zeke: 12 destroyed
G3M2 Nell: 1 destroyed
Ki-48-II Lily: 5 destroyed
Ki-21-II Sally: 8 destroyed, 7 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
P-40E Warhawk: 1 destroyed
Hurricane I: 2 destroyed, 1 damaged
Kittyhawk I: 1 damaged
I-16 Type 24: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
LaGG-3: 4 destroyed, 3 damaged
Yak-1: 2 destroyed, 2 damaged
Wirraway CA-1: 1 destroyed
Vildebeest IV: 1 destroyed


Allied ground losses:
34 casualties reported

Airbase hits 4
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 12

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Day Air attack on Ye [Burma] , at 29,35

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zeke x 184
G4M1 Betty x 142 OUCH !!! FINALLY the sort of concentrated raid he should have put in 10 days ago.
Ki-32 Mary x 17
Ki-21-II Sally x 67
Ki-264 Angel x 3

Allied aircraft
P-40B Tomahawk x 3
P-40E Warhawk x 3
Hurricane I x 7
Kittyhawk I x 9
Spitfire VB x 3
I-16 Type 24 x 19
LaGG-3 x 5
Yak-1 x 10

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zeke: 21 destroyed, 1 damaged
G4M1 Betty: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
P-40B Tomahawk: 5 destroyed
P-40E Warhawk: 5 destroyed
Hurricane I: 9 destroyed
Kittyhawk I: 13 destroyed
Spitfire VB: 3 destroyed
I-16 Type 24: 25 destroyed
LaGG-3: 8 destroyed
Yak-1: 15 destroyed
R-12: 3 destroyed
Wirraway CA-1: 1 destroyed
MiG-3: 3 destroyed
Vildebeest IV: 1 destroyed


Allied ground losses:
102 casualties reported

Airbase hits 30
Airbase supply hits 17
Runway hits 128

And this raid means that for the first time since the game restarted Allied losses are higher than Japanese losses.

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Day Air attack on Bangkok [Thailand] , at 29,39

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zeke x 49
Ki-109E Mike x 2

Allied aircraft
B-17D Fortress x 65
B-17E Fortress x 101

Say hello to the first 100+ B-17 raid Damian. You'll be seeing a lot more of these over the days and weeks to come.

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zeke: 13 destroyed, 7 damaged
Ki-109E Mike: 3 destroyed
H6K2-L Mavis: 7 destroyed
Ki-57 Topsy: 5 destroyed
G4M1 Betty: 1 destroyed
Ki-264-L: 1 destroyed
Ki-21-II Sally: 1 destroyed


Japanese ground losses:
75 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Airbase hits 7
Airbase supply hits 5
Runway hits 45

Damian's only reasonable counter is to hit the B-17 bases with Ki-264 Angels. He begins building them at the first of the month and should have neough to raid by mid-month so, by that time, I'll make sure to have a few fast cannon-armed fighters in the air over Calcutta.

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Day Air attack on Bankha [Sumatra] , at 20,47

Japanese aircraft
Ki-51 Sonia x 26

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-51 Sonia: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged

Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 14

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Day Air attack on Bankha [Sumatra] , at 20,47

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zeke x 16
Ki-32 Mary x 21

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-32 Mary: 1 damaged

Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 43

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Day Air attack on Bankha [Sumatra] , at 20,47

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-II Sally x 19

No Japanese losses

Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 21

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Day Air attack on Manila/Cavite [PH] , at 43,52

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zeke x 5
Ki-27 Nate x 22
Ki-109E Mike x 19
Ki-32 Mary x 27
Ki-48-I Lily x 54
Ki-21-II Sally x 36
Ki-15II Babs x 5
Ki-46-II Dinah x 5

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-27 Nate: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
Ki-109E Mike: 2 damaged


Allied ground losses:
19 casualties reported
Vehicles lost 1

Airbase hits 4
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 54

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Day Air attack on IJA 55th "Division" Brigade, at 37,38


Allied aircraft
IL-2 Shturmovik x 161
IL-2M Shturmovik x 24


Allied aircraft losses
IL-2 Shturmovik: 2 destroyed, 3 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
96 casualties reported
Guns lost 4

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Day Air attack on IJA 3rd Tank Brigade, at 32,31


Allied aircraft
IL-2 Shturmovik x 21


Allied aircraft losses
IL-2 Shturmovik: 2 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
13 casualties reported

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Day Air attack on ROC 31st Field Army , at 36,38

Japanese aircraft
Ki-32 Mary x 4
Ki-15II Babs x 1

No Japanese losses

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Day Air attack on ROC 36th Field Army , at 36,38

Japanese aircraft
Ki-32 Mary x 3

No Japanese losses

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Day Air attack on Red 98th Guerilla Regiment, at 49,40

Japanese aircraft
Ki-32 Mary x 9

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
7 casualties reported

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Day Air attack on ROC 21st Field Army , at 49,40

Japanese aircraft
Ki-32 Mary x 8

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
19 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

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Day Air attack on ROC 62nd Field Army , at 43,41

Japanese aircraft
D3A2 Val x 27

Japanese aircraft losses
D3A2 Val: 3 damaged


Allied ground losses:
36 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

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Day Air attack on TF at 41,42

I snuck quite a few Pe-2s and Avengers into Hanoi after capturing it... Today they launch their first strikes.

Japanese aircraft
F1M2 Pete-FF x 4

Allied aircraft
TBM-1 Avenger x 6

No Japanese losses

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
AP Midori Maru, Bomb hits 1
AK Gosei Maru

Japanese ground losses:
5 casualties reported

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Day Air attack on TF, near Haiphong [Tonkin] at 37,38


Allied aircraft
Pe-2 x 13


No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
AK Uyo Maru, Bomb hits 7, on fire, heavy damage

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Day Air attack on TF, near Hue [Annam] at 35,42

It looks to me like Damian is landing a reinforcement Bde or Division at Hue. Obviously he is seeking to hold me there. Unfortunately for him I have a plan and a bit of a dodge which means he won't be able to hold me there at all. His thinking is good though, he is creating a strong line farther back rather than trying to hold the current front ( hanoi or Pakhoi ) but only committing his forces piecemeal.

Oh I should also mention that Hanoi has 997 functioning resource centres and is thus producing as many tons of supply per day as Chungking. The Chinese supply situation has just gotten a LOT better.


Allied aircraft
Pe-2 x 51


No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
AK Yahiko Maru, Bomb hits 3, on fire
AK Nako Maru, Bomb hits 4, on fire
AK Nana Maru, Bomb hits 2, on fire
AK Noto Maru, Bomb hits 5, on fire, heavy damage
AK Azumasan Maru, Bomb hits 2, on fire
AK Ujina Maru, Bomb hits 2, on fire
AK Kansai Maru, Bomb hits 5, on fire, heavy damage

Japanese ground losses:
92 casualties reported
Vehicles lost 11

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Day Air attack on TF, near Haiphong [Tonkin] at 37,38


Allied aircraft
Pe-2 x 15


No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
PC Ch 5, Bomb hits 8, on fire, heavy damage

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Day Air attack on TF, near Port Blair [Andaman] at 23,34


Allied aircraft
IL-4C x 3


Allied aircraft losses
IL-4C: 3 damaged

Japanese Ships
DD Shirayuki

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Day Air attack on TF at 26,34

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zeke x 12
Ki-48-II Lily x 6

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-48-II Lily: 1 damaged

Allied Ships
AK Thedens, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
AK Empire Brook

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Day Air attack on TF, near Moulmein [Burma] at 30,34

Japanese aircraft
Ki-48-II Lily x 3

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
AK Empire Cormorant

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Day Air attack on TF, near Moulmein [Burma] at 30,34

Japanese aircraft
Ki-48-II Lily x 7

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
AK Empire Gilbert
AK Empire Hunter

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Day Air attack on TF at 41,42

Japanese aircraft
F1M2 Pete-FF x 4

Allied aircraft
Beaufort VII x 3
TBM-1 Avenger x 6

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Beaufort VII: 1 damaged

Japanese Ships
AV Kamikawa Maru
AK Fukuyo Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire
AK Hachirogata Maru

Japanese ground losses:
22 casualties reported

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Day Air attack on TF, near Hue [Annam] at 35,42

Hmm, looks like a big TF at Hue. That has to be more than a single Bde. So, can a reinforced Division stop my guys from advancing further? We'll find out soon enough.


Allied aircraft
Pe-2 x 66


No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
AK Yamamichi Maru, Bomb hits 5, on fire, heavy damage
DD Hibiki, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
DD Yukikaze, Bomb hits 1, on fire
AK Yubu Maru, Bomb hits 8, on fire, heavy damage
AK Aobasan Maru
AK Noto Maru, Bomb hits 7, on fire, heavy damage
AK Zenyo Maru, Bomb hits 3, on fire

Japanese ground losses:
266 casualties reported
Guns lost 10
Vehicles lost 10

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Day Air attack on TF, near Port Blair [Andaman] at 23,34


Allied aircraft
IL-4C x 3


No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
AP Hasuna Maru

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Day Air attack on TF at 26,34

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zeke x 12
Ki-48-II Lily x 15

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-48-II Lily: 1 damaged

Allied Ships
AK Empire Brook
AK Pangkor, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AK Thedens, on fire, heavy damage
AK Jalatarang, Bomb hits 8, on fire, heavy damage

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ASW attack at 34,64

Japanese Ships
DD Sawakaze
DD Minekaze
DD Yamakaze

Allied Ships
SS S-41, hits 2, on fire

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ASW attack near Palau [Nanyo] at 51,68

Japanese Ships
DD Numakaze
DD Yukaze
DD Okikaze

Allied Ships
SS KXVI, hits 2

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Sub attack near Moulmein [Burma] at 30,34

Japanese Ships
SS I-3

Allied Ships
AK Empire Hunter, Torpedo hits 1, on fire

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ASW attack near Truk [Nanyo] at 66,78

Japanese Ships
DD Toyota
APD Patrol Boat No. 36

Allied Ships
SS L-15, hits 1

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ASW attack near Olongapo/Bataan at 42,51

Japanese Ships
PC Ch 15
PC Ch 18
PC Ch 17
PC Ch 14

Allied Ships
SS O16

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Sub attack near Moulmein [Burma] at 30,34

Japanese Ships
SS I-3

Allied Ships
AK Empire Oryx

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Sub attack near Moulmein [Burma] at 30,34

Japanese Ships
SS I-3

Allied Ships
AP Neptuna, Shell hits 4, on fire


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Ground combat at Skovorodino [SIB]

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 209640 troops, 2688 guns, 1278 vehicles, Assault Value = 4929

Defending force 99654 troops, 1685 guns, 1 vehicles, Assault Value = 3080



Allied ground losses:
50 casualties reported
Guns lost 1


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Ground combat at Manila/Cavite [PH]

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 94426 troops, 1077 guns, 815 vehicles, Assault Value = 2437

Defending force 57141 troops, 1230 guns, 384 vehicles, Assault Value = 2167



Allied ground losses:
63 casualties reported
Guns lost 2


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Ground combat at Ye [Burma]

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 8559 troops, 106 guns, 78 vehicles, Assault Value = 278

Defending force 20057 troops, 286 guns, 28 vehicles, Assault Value = 276



Allied ground losses:
10 casualties reported


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Ground combat at Canton [S China]

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 19355 troops, 212 guns, 61 vehicles, Assault Value = 717

Defending force 33567 troops, 350 guns, 3 vehicles, Assault Value = 1760



Allied ground losses:
15 casualties reported


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Ground combat at Ondorhaan [MON]

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 5356 troops, 28 guns, 52 vehicles, Assault Value = 154

Defending force 6045 troops, 115 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 265

Japanese max assault: 262 - adjusted assault: 60

Allied max defense: 274 - adjusted defense: 403

Japanese assault odds: 0 to 1 (fort level 3)

Japanese ground losses:
505 casualties reported
Guns lost 4
Vehicles lost 2

Allied ground losses:
10 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Damian was sneaking a Mongolian cavalry unit in behind my lines in the Soviet Union but I saw it in time and air-transported the 101st Mountain Division in. We're safe for now.

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Ground combat at Moulmein [Burma]

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 29718 troops, 276 guns, 925 vehicles, Assault Value = 875

Defending force 16021 troops, 330 guns, 19 vehicles, Assault Value = 630



Allied ground losses:
21 casualties reported


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Ground combat at Bankha [Sumatra]

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 4131 troops, 58 guns, 12 vehicles, Assault Value = 215

Defending force 1009 troops, 9 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 18

Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 0

Japanese max assault: 193 - adjusted assault: 81

Allied max defense: 13 - adjusted defense: 11

Japanese assault odds: 7 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Bankha [Sumatra] base !!!

Japanese ground losses:
33 casualties reported

Allied ground losses:
1216 casualties reported
Guns lost 3

Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

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Ground combat at Lashio [Burma]

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 4030 troops, 42 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 215

Another 1,000+ AV are on the way and should suffice to push the Japanese out of Lashio and re-open the Burma Road.

Defending force 3618 troops, 45 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 120



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Ground combat at Canton [S China]

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 31627 troops, 348 guns, 3 vehicles, Assault Value = 1758

Defending force 37629 troops, 473 guns, 93 vehicles, Assault Value = 717



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Ground combat at Haiphong [Tonkin]

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 11405 troops, 185 guns, 3 vehicles, Assault Value = 700

Defending force 10798 troops, 45 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 94

Allied max assault: 430 - adjusted assault: 224

Japanese max defense: 50 - adjusted defense: 145

Allied assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 4)

Allied Assault reduces fortifications to 3

Japanese ground losses:
93 casualties reported
Guns lost 5

Allied ground losses:
52 casualties reported
Guns lost 4

Two Armies get a 1:1 odds ratio. Tomorrow an additional 3 armies attack. I'm hopefuly of getting that ever-elusive 6 to 1 and clearing Haiphong in a day. If not I'll just have to wait another day or two and try again. I hae multiple aviation support units on the way from deep inside China and the thought of establishing Haiphong as an airbase for long-range bombers raids on the shipping to and from Malaysia and Java is most alluring. It wont' happen of course as the Japanese reaction is going to be extremely vicious and I can expect counter-invasion of Haiphong or Pakhoi momentarily. That's ok though, the point was never to hold Haiphong and Hanoi but merely to force the enemy to commit his reserves here, drawing them away from the Pacific and preventing him from rescuing the situation in Burma.

Any momentary success is merely an additional, welcome bonus.

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Ground combat at Port Blair [Andaman]

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 2741 troops, 55 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 168

Defending force 3038 troops, 44 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 66



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Ground combat at Ye [Burma]

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 6883 troops, 211 guns, 2 vehicles, Assault Value = 276

Defending force 9117 troops, 130 guns, 101 vehicles, Assault Value = 278


Japanese ground losses:
11 casualties reported

Allied ground losses:
2 casualties reported
Guns lost 1


Green show current paths of attack. As you can see the distraction of Ye and Moulmein has fatally weakened northern Burma and allowed me to break out there along 3 axes.

Yellow shows the bypassing operations around Hue. Again the plan is to simply flood multiple routes of advance forcing the Japanese to commit their reserves here and drawing them far away from the crucial islands in the Central pacific. So far it is all going pretty much according to plan ( except for the failure to capture Moulmein in the first rush.

I've done a count and currently 240,000 Allied troops and over 400,000 tons of supplies are on board ship and making their way to the Phase 2 invasion sites. They won't be landing for at least ten days but when they do things should get pretty exciting pretty quickly. All in all it is a fun game albeit that it was slow recently as I was ueber-busy.




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RE: Defeating the Devil !!! ( aka Damian ) - 10/6/2008 1:22:33 PM   
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Coastal Guns at Ye [Burma], 29,35, firing at TF 81
TF 81 troops unloading over beach at Ye [Burma], 29,35


12 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
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Coastal Guns at Port Blair [Andaman], 23,34, firing at TF 98
TF 98 troops unloading over beach at Port Blair [Andaman], 23,34


22 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
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Coastal Guns at Moulmein [Burma], 30,34, firing at TF 1038
TF 1038 troops unloading over beach at Moulmein [Burma], 30,34


24 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Allied ground losses:
10 casualties reported

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Sub attack near Marcus Island [JP] at 76,62

Japanese Ships
DD Shiratsuyu, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
DD Ushio
DD Oboro
DD Sagiri

Allied Ships
SS SHCH129, hits 1

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ASW attack near Takao [Formosa] at 47,45

Japanese Ships
PC Ch 6
PC Ch 4

Allied Ships
SS KXIV

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Sub attack near Olongapo/Bataan at 42,51

Japanese Ships
DD Amagiri
PC Ch 18
PC Ch 17
PC Ch 15
PC Ch 14

Allied Ships
SS O16, hits 8, on fire, heavy damage

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Sub attack near Moulmein [Burma] at 30,34

Japanese Ships
SS I-3

Allied Ships
AK Empire Oryx, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage

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Day Air attack on Hanoi [Tonkin] , at 36,37

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zeke x 8
B5N2 Kate x 3
Ki-32 Mary x 5
Ki-48-II Lily x 12
Ki-15II Babs x 1

Allied aircraft
no flights

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Vildebeest IV: 2 destroyed
Beaufort VII: 1 destroyed
Pe-2: 1 destroyed
IL-2 Shturmovik: 1 destroyed

Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 10

I'd shifted most of my planes to China and Haiphong so only a few stragglers were caught on the ground. These losses are fine really as I have lots of Vildebeests and Il-2s in my pools.

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Day Air attack on Hanoi [Tonkin] , at 36,37

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zeke x 4
G4M1 Betty x 39

Allied aircraft
no flights

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Pe-2: 4 destroyed
Vildebeest IV: 3 destroyed
IL-2 Shturmovik: 4 destroyed

Airbase hits 3
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 18

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Day Air attack on Sovetskaya Gavan , at 73,30

Japanese aircraft
A5M4 Claude x 30
D3A2 Val x 8
B5N2 Kate x 36
Ki-43-I Oscar x 25

No Japanese losses

Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 24

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Day Air attack on Sovetskaya Gavan , at 73,30

Japanese aircraft
A5M4 Claude x 31
D3A2 Val x 26
Ki-27 Nate x 25

Japanese aircraft losses
A5M4 Claude: 1 damaged
D3A2 Val: 1 damaged

Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 29


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Day Air attack on Ye [Burma] , at 29,35

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zeke x 44
G4M1 Betty x 132
Ki-32 Mary x 15
Ki-21-II Sally x 64

Allied aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 4 destroyed, 10 damaged
Ki-21-II Sally: 4 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Kittyhawk I: 1 destroyed
I-16 Type 24: 2 destroyed
Pe-2: 1 destroyed

Allied ground losses:
34 casualties reported

Airbase hits 5
Airbase supply hits 13
Runway hits 132

And he's determined to keep Ye closed. That's fine as the real battle has now moved on. He's one loop behind in the OODA cycle and he's fighting yesterday's battle again... This is the clearest sign yet that I have succeeded in completely wresting the initiative from Damian.

After a while he'll begin using these escorting fighters elsewhere and then a nice little Spitfire ambush might yield nice dividends.

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Day Air attack on Bangkok [Thailand] , at 29,39

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zeke x 63
Ki-109E Mike x 3

Allied aircraft
B-17D Fortress x 63
B-17E Fortress x 103

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zeke: 22 destroyed, 4 damaged
Ki-109E Mike: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
H6K2-L Mavis: 4 destroyed
Ki-21-II Sally: 1 destroyed

Japanese ground losses:
47 casualties reported
Guns lost 3

Airbase hits 14
Runway hits 57

Hmm, thats a lot of Zeroes to lose on the ground. I doubt those losses are really sustainable for the Japanese.

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Day Air attack on Soerabaja [Java] , at 23,66

Japanese aircraft
G3M2 Nell x 21
Ki-32 Mary x 20

Allied aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
G3M2 Nell: 1 damaged
Ki-32 Mary: 3 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Beaufort VII: 1 destroyed

Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 24

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Day Air attack on Manila/Cavite [PH] , at 43,52

Japanese aircraft
Ki-27 Nate x 21
Ki-109E Mike x 17
Ki-32 Mary x 27
Ki-48-I Lily x 54
Ki-21-II Sally x 35
Ki-15II Babs x 5
Ki-46-II Dinah x 5

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-27 Nate: 1 destroyed, 3 damaged
Ki-109E Mike: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged
Ki-21-II Sally: 1 damaged


Allied ground losses:
78 casualties reported
Guns lost 3
Vehicles lost 2

Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 50

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Day Air attack on IJA 55th "Division" Brigade, at 37,38


Allied aircraft
IL-2 Shturmovik x 152
IL-2M Shturmovik x 23


Allied aircraft losses
IL-2 Shturmovik: 1 damaged
IL-2M Shturmovik: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
39 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

Prepping for the next assault...


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Day Air attack on TF at 25,32

Japanese aircraft
G3M2 Nell x 3
Ki-21-II Sally x 7

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
AK Thedens, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AK Empire Brook, on fire, heavy damage
AP Varsova, Bomb hits 1, heavy damage
AP Chitral, Bomb hits 1

Nothing but cripples making their escape.

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Day Air attack on TF at 25,32

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zeke x 8
Ki-48-II Lily x 11

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
AK Empire Brook, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
AK Pangkor, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AK Thedens, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

Just a few cripples being targetted as they run for Akyab. Interestingly enough I've managed to have about 15 or 16 ships escape Ye for Burma so far and most of those have minimal or no damage.

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Day Air attack on TF, near Moulmein [Burma] at 30,34

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zeke x 25
G3M2 Nell x 4
Ki-48-II Lily x 3
Ki-21-II Sally x 11

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
AK Empire Cormorant, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AK Empire Cameron, Bomb hits 6, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AK Empire Morn, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage

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Day Air attack on TF, near Moulmein [Burma] at 30,34

Japanese aircraft
Ki-48-II Lily x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-48-II Lily: 1 damaged

Allied Ships
AK Bonketoe

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Day Air attack on TF, near Port Blair [Andaman] at 23,34


Allied aircraft
B-19A x 9


No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
AP Fukko Maru
AK Kogyo Maru
PC Ch 11, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

Ah, the B-19s get a hit on escorts near Port Blair. Tomorrow night two surface strike groups will make for Port Blair and intercept these ships.

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Day Air attack on TF, near Port Blair [Andaman] at 23,34


Allied aircraft
IL-4C x 6


Allied aircraft losses
IL-4C: 2 damaged

Japanese Ships
AP Hasuna Maru
AP Higashiyama Maru

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Day Air attack on TF, near Port Blair [Andaman] at 23,34


Allied aircraft
B-19A x 2


No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
AP Hikade Maru

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Day Air attack on TF, near Moulmein [Burma] at 30,34

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zeke x 11
Ki-48-II Lily x 16

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
AK Empire Foam
AK Empire Ocean, Bomb hits 3, on fire
AK Empire Cameron, on fire, heavy damage
AK Empire Cormorant, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage

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Ground combat at Skovorodino [SIB]

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 211505 troops, 2741 guns, 1280 vehicles, Assault Value = 4998

Defending force 100147 troops, 1700 guns, 1 vehicles, Assault Value = 3090



Allied ground losses:
27 casualties reported


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Ground combat at Manila/Cavite [PH]

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 95516 troops, 1099 guns, 817 vehicles, Assault Value = 2478

Defending force 57235 troops, 1233 guns, 385 vehicles, Assault Value = 2177



Allied ground losses:
69 casualties reported
Guns lost 5


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Ground combat at Port Blair [Andaman]

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 3166 troops, 47 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 70

Defending force 3653 troops, 65 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 197

Japanese max assault: 65 - adjusted assault: 39

Allied max defense: 167 - adjusted defense: 133

Japanese assault odds: 0 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese ground losses:
178 casualties reported
Guns lost 6

Allied ground losses:
95 casualties reported
Guns lost 3

Well, it looks like the Japanese have just thrown two Bdes away at Port Blair. They'll have to airbridge them out. I must park a few fighters there to kill a few transports.


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Ground combat at Ye [Burma]

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 9296 troops, 131 guns, 107 vehicles, Assault Value = 283

Defending force 19992 troops, 285 guns, 28 vehicles, Assault Value = 276



Allied ground losses:
10 casualties reported


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Ground combat at Canton [S China]

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 19465 troops, 214 guns, 61 vehicles, Assault Value = 724

Defending force 33534 troops, 351 guns, 4 vehicles, Assault Value = 1758



Allied ground losses:
19 casualties reported


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Ground combat at Soerabaja [Java]

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 37189 troops, 756 guns, 634 vehicles, Assault Value = 1037

Defending force 27174 troops, 204 guns, 34 vehicles, Assault Value = 437



Allied ground losses:
59 casualties reported
Guns lost 1


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Ground combat at Moulmein [Burma]

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 29714 troops, 276 guns, 925 vehicles, Assault Value = 875

Defending force 16257 troops, 332 guns, 19 vehicles, Assault Value = 642



Allied ground losses:
18 casualties reported


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Ground combat at Lashio [Burma]

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 4038 troops, 43 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 215

Defending force 3646 troops, 45 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 122



Allied ground losses:
15 casualties reported
Guns lost 1


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Ground combat at Canton [S China]

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 31597 troops, 349 guns, 4 vehicles, Assault Value = 1757

Defending force 37769 troops, 477 guns, 93 vehicles, Assault Value = 724



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Ground combat at Haiphong [Tonkin]

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 32268 troops, 489 guns, 5 vehicles, Assault Value = 1809

Defending force 9912 troops, 36 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 78

Allied max assault: 1638 - adjusted assault: 785

Japanese max defense: 40 - adjusted defense: 108

Allied assault odds: 7 to 1 (fort level 3)

Allied forces CAPTURE Haiphong [Tonkin] base !!!

Japanese ground losses:
188 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

Allied ground losses:
155 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
Vehicles lost 1

Strangely enough the Japanese weren't forced to surrender. They are in the base hex but no longer control the base. It is like they are on an island or something. Ah well, I'll use this to train these 6 Chinese Armies and hel them gain experience.


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Ground combat at Ye [Burma]

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 6883 troops, 209 guns, 2 vehicles, Assault Value = 276

Defending force 9296 troops, 131 guns, 107 vehicles, Assault Value = 283



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Ground combat at Port Blair [Andaman]

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 3130 troops, 60 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 191

Defending force 2906 troops, 35 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 61



Damian has bee making sounds about expecting me in the Pacific and I've seen a lot of CV-based airpower around Marcus. It might all be a huge bluff but I think his CVs are west or north of Marcus island. Thus I'm going to try to hit the DEI before I hit Marcus as I want to try to lure a few of those CVs away... Of course if I see a big opening then this is all out the window.

In an effort to create that opening I am moving an SC TF with a BB ( Lion ), a few CAs and a load of CLAAs about 200 miles west of Midway. I'm hoping that this will draw the IJN CVs in for a strike at which time they will run in to hordes of P-40Es on LRCAP. If I can hurt his CVs in this sort of battle in which my USAAF fighters wear down his CV airgroups then my own CVs will have a better chance in shepherding my shipping through to Marcus. My USAAF fighters will probably lose 2:1 in favour of the Japanese but that's ok since I'm using USAAF fighters to kill IJN pilots and the whole goal is to help preserve my own CVs and nevermind what happens to the USAAF.

< Message edited by Nemo121 -- 10/6/2008 1:32:00 PM >

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RE: Defeating the Devil !!! ( aka Damian ) - 10/6/2008 6:18:27 PM   
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Sub attack at 29,34

Japanese Ships
SS I-11

Allied Ships
AK City of Canterbury

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Port Blair [Andaman] at 23,34

Japanese Ships
DD Shirayuki, Shell hits 8, on fire, heavy damage
DD Shikinami, Shell hits 20, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
PC Ch 11, Shell hits 6, and is sunk
AP Teia Maru
AP Chifuku Maru
AP Fukko Maru
AK Hawaii Maru, Shell hits 1
AK Kogyo Maru
AK Tatuharu Maru

Allied Ships
CL Trinidad, Shell hits 6, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
CL Fiji
CL Bermuda, Shell hits 1
DD Jupiter
DD Nestor
DD Tjerk Hiddes
DD Cheyenne
DD McCloud

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Port Blair [Andaman] at 23,34

Japanese Ships
AP Atuta Maru, Shell hits 2
AP Kirishima Maru
AP Atsuta Maru
AP Bokuyo Maru, Shell hits 14, on fire
AP Enju Maru, Shell hits 2
AP Haaburu Maru, Shell hits 9, on fire
AP Hasuna Maru, Shell hits 3, on fire
AP Higashiyama Maru
AP Hikade Maru, Shell hits 5, on fire
DD Honda, Shell hits 42, and is sunk

Allied Ships
CL Trinidad, on fire, heavy damage
CL Fiji
CL Bermuda
DD Jupiter
DD Nestor
DD Tjerk Hiddes
DD Cheyenne, Shell hits 2
DD McCloud

My raiding force didn't do as well as I had hoped but it'll put a few AKs etc into the shop and it looks like two IJN DDs will sink. Every little bit helps.

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Day Air attack on Hanoi [Tonkin] , at 36,37

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zeke x 12
G4M1 Betty x 116
Ki-21-II Sally x 25
Ki-264 Angel x 3

No Japanese losses

Airbase hits 8
Airbase supply hits 16
Runway hits 66

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Day Air attack on Sovetskaya Gavan , at 73,30

Japanese aircraft
A5M4 Claude x 30
D3A2 Val x 8
B5N2 Kate x 35
Ki-43-I Oscar x 25

Allied aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
A5M4 Claude: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 32

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Day Air attack on Sovetskaya Gavan , at 73,30

Japanese aircraft
D3A2 Val x 26

Japanese aircraft losses
D3A2 Val: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged

Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 19


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Day Air attack on Ye [Burma] , at 29,35

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zeke x 31
G4M1 Betty x 115
Ki-32 Mary x 18
Ki-21-II Sally x 66

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 1 destroyed, 3 damaged
Ki-32 Mary: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged
Ki-21-II Sally: 3 damaged

Allied ground losses:
52 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Airbase hits 6
Airbase supply hits 8
Runway hits 80

The number of fighters is falling a little. Once I capture Rangoon I may put an LRCAP here as an ambush.

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Day Air attack on Soerabaja [Java] , at 23,66

Japanese aircraft
G3M2 Nell x 18
Ki-32 Mary x 16

Japanese aircraft losses
G3M2 Nell: 3 damaged

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 10

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Day Air attack on Manila/Cavite [PH] , at 43,52

Japanese aircraft
Ki-27 Nate x 18
Ki-109E Mike x 17
Ki-32 Mary x 26
Ki-48-I Lily x 54
Ki-21-II Sally x 36
Ki-15II Babs x 5
Ki-46-II Dinah x 5

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-27 Nate: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged
Ki-109E Mike: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
Ki-48-I Lily: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
Ki-46-II Dinah: 1 damaged


Allied ground losses:
8 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

Airbase hits 6
Airbase supply hits 8
Runway hits 82

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Day Air attack on JAAF 34th Engineer Aviation Battalion, at 31,31


Allied aircraft
SB-2M x 58


Allied aircraft losses
SB-2M: 2 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
63 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

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Day Air attack on ROC 62nd Field Army , at 43,41

Japanese aircraft
D3A2 Val x 27

Japanese aircraft losses
D3A2 Val: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged


Allied ground losses:
10 casualties reported

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Day Air attack on TF at 28,33

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zeke x 5
Ki-48-II Lily x 11

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
AK Empire Ocean
AK Empire Foam, Bomb hits 1

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Day Air attack on TF at 27,33

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-II Sally x 3

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
AK City of Canterbury, Bomb hits 1, on fire

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Day Air attack on TF, near Ye [Burma] at 29,35

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zeke x 24
G3M2 Nell x 4
G4M1 Betty x 10
Ki-48-II Lily x 3
Ki-21-II Sally x 11

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
AK Bonketoe, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
AK Wosang, Bomb hits 6, on fire, heavy damage
AP Neptuna, Bomb hits 3, on fire

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Day Air attack on TF, near Ye [Burma] at 29,35

Japanese aircraft
Ki-48-II Lily x 3

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
AP Neptuna, Bomb hits 1, on fire

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Day Air attack on TF at 27,33

Japanese aircraft
G3M2 Nell x 3

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
AK Empire Hunter

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Day Air attack on TF, near Ye [Burma] at 29,35

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 9

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
AK Empire Morn, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage

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Day Air attack on Canton [S China] , at 43,41

Japanese aircraft
A6M2-N Rufe-FF x 12
Ki-109E Mike x 3

Allied aircraft
Pe-2 x 90

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2-N Rufe-FF: 5 destroyed, 2 damaged
Ki-109E Mike: 2 destroyed
A6M2 Zeke: 2 destroyed
G4M1 Betty: 14 destroyed
Ki-32 Mary: 14 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Pe-2: 7 destroyed, 11 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
15 casualties reported
Vehicles lost 1

Airbase hits 13
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 43

A nice hit on Canton. Those G4Ms won't be easily replaced.

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Ground combat at Skovorodino [SIB]

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 213529 troops, 2774 guns, 1279 vehicles, Assault Value = 5091

Defending force 100403 troops, 1709 guns, 1 vehicles, Assault Value = 3093



Allied ground losses:
24 casualties reported


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Ground combat at Manila/Cavite [PH]

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 96470 troops, 1115 guns, 818 vehicles, Assault Value = 2525

Defending force 57287 troops, 1228 guns, 386 vehicles, Assault Value = 2176



Allied ground losses:
48 casualties reported
Guns lost 2


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Ground combat at Soerabaja [Java]

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 42037 troops, 861 guns, 653 vehicles, Assault Value = 1055

Defending force 27345 troops, 211 guns, 38 vehicles, Assault Value = 452



Allied ground losses:
18 casualties reported
Guns lost 1


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Ground combat at Ye [Burma]

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 9423 troops, 135 guns, 107 vehicles, Assault Value = 287

Defending force 19868 troops, 283 guns, 29 vehicles, Assault Value = 276



Allied ground losses:
8 casualties reported


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Ground combat at Canton [S China]

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 19729 troops, 216 guns, 68 vehicles, Assault Value = 735

Defending force 33547 troops, 349 guns, 4 vehicles, Assault Value = 1761



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Ground combat at Moulmein [Burma]

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 29752 troops, 276 guns, 927 vehicles, Assault Value = 876

Defending force 16386 troops, 336 guns, 21 vehicles, Assault Value = 647


Japanese ground losses:
8 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Allied ground losses:
24 casualties reported
Guns lost 1


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Ground combat at Toungoo [Burma]

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 1440 troops, 7 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 27

Defending force 1669 troops, 60 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 109

Japanese max assault: 9 - adjusted assault: 0

Allied max defense: 111 - adjusted defense: 227

Japanese assault odds: 0 to 1


Japanese ground losses:
190 casualties reported
Guns lost 2


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Ground combat at Lashio [Burma]

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 4000 troops, 40 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 213

Defending force 3621 troops, 44 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 122



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Ground combat at Taung Gyi [Burma]

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 13043 troops, 177 guns, 2 vehicles, Assault Value = 742

Defending force 21957 troops, 361 guns, 28 vehicles, Assault Value = 613



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Ground combat at Canton [S China]

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 31637 troops, 347 guns, 4 vehicles, Assault Value = 1761

Defending force 38047 troops, 482 guns, 99 vehicles, Assault Value = 735



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Ground combat at Haiphong [Tonkin]

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 28434 troops, 403 guns, 2 vehicles, Assault Value = 1507

Defending force 9320 troops, 21 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 66

Allied max assault: 808 - adjusted assault: 201

Japanese max defense: 42 - adjusted defense: 126

Allied assault odds: 1 to 1

Japanese ground losses:
156 casualties reported
Guns lost 4

Allied ground losses:
60 casualties reported
Guns lost 4


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Ground combat at Toungoo [Burma]

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 1669 troops, 60 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 109

Defending force 1087 troops, 2 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 12

Allied max assault: 214 - adjusted assault: 424

Japanese max defense: 6 - adjusted defense: 5

Allied assault odds: 84 to 1 (fort level 0)

Allied forces CAPTURE Toungoo [Burma] base !!!

Japanese ground losses:
13 casualties reported

Allied ground losses:
16 casualties reported

Defeated Japanese Units Retreating!

And with Toungoo's collapse my forces are now fully free to march on Rangoon. That's it, Burma is now all mine bar a little bit of shouting.


What does all this mean?
Well, Bangkok is now toast as my Pe-2s can hit it from Burma and my B-17s can hit Singapore from Rangoon. All in all this means that everything he owns north of Singapore and west of China is now well within the sights of my air force. Moreover I've almost finished rebuilding my fighter groups and this means that I'll be able to maintain air superiority over my forces. It's all looking pretty good. I need to punch him hard in the DEI and try to draw his local carrier group in ( I'm sure he must have some CVs and CVEs/CVLs in the DEI as a sort of rapid reaction force ) before sending in my landing force for Java/Sumatra and then I need to be patient and wait for further opportunities to open up in the Pacific before committing there.

In terms of losses etc: I've lost 1336 planes in the past 21 days while the Japanese have lost 2,081. That's pretty much 50% more than me. What's even better there is that to do this I've bled the Soviet and British air forces to the bone BUT the USAAF and USN/USMC are pretty much intact and I intend them to be the hammer which breaks the over-stretched Japanese over the next month.

In terms of shipping losses I've lost 112 ships in return for 23 Japanese ships but most of those losses occurred off Burma and as a cost for retaking Burma, breaking the Japanese air force and regaining the initiative of the entire war I think it was a price well worth paying.

I'm still leary of committing in the Pacific as I think that I've done my job of drawing the iJN CVs there too well and I think that apart from one or two CVs and a few CVLS and CVEs --- Probably 1 to 2 CVs and all his CVE --- which are staying behind in the DEI to guard against surprises there, he has sent all his CVs to the Pacific. I can't face all of them so I'll need to think very carefully about this.

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RE: Defeating the Devil !!! ( aka Damian ) - 10/7/2008 8:26:43 PM   
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quote:

In terms of shipping losses I've lost 112 ships in return for 23 Japanese ships but most of those losses occurred off Burma and as a cost for retaking Burma, breaking the Japanese air force and regaining the initiative of the entire war I think it was a price well worth paying.


I'll certainly concede that point. Re-taking Burma in 1942 is an impressive achievement, and with the re-opening of the Burma road the Chinese forces will pose an even greater danger than they already are. (And there's always the possibility of basing 4E bombers in China now that the supply situation is looking up.) Damien does not seem to use his Mikes as wisely as you do -- the Japanese should still rule the sky at this time.

But the loss of the 4 British BB's is still a sad, sad thing . . .

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In battle we wax cold:
Wherefore men fight not as they fought
In the brave days of old.
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RE: Defeating the Devil !!! ( aka Damian ) - 10/7/2008 11:48:01 PM   
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Not to an Irishman . BBs were outmoded by this stage. I honestly believe any country in the world would have been better off building a couple of CAAA ( Heavy Anti-aircraft cruisers ) or a gaggle of CLAAs for each BB built.


As to Ye... What I've said to Damian was that he needed to combine his operations better and use moderately successful single axis operations to synergistically interact and create a greatly successful mix of operations combining all three arms of service.

1. BB and CA-heavy surface combat TFs to move to and stand off Ye and Moulmein ASAP with a view to driving my landing forces out to sea. These 2 x SC TFs would NOT leave Ye or Moulmein but would, instead, just sit offshore absorbing the necessary damage from US B-17s and Soviet Pe-2s and Il-4s on the basis that any damage suffered was less lethal to his navy than preventing the landing of men and supplies was lethal to my invasion.

2. His fighters should have been massed on Day 1 and used to SWEEP the skies over Moulmein and Ye. Only a couple of spare Sentai should have been given bomber escort missions in order to prevent LRCAP massacring his bombers when they hit my shipping out at sea ( there wouldn't have been LRCAP but better safe than sorry ). Sweep would mean that his fighters would operate on full potential and be a LOT more effective than when escorting bombers. In the meantime his bombers would be hitting my shipping.

3. On day 2 Allied ships could try to fight through Japanese ships to retake the sea off the landing beaches ( highly unlikely ) or retreat ( much more likely ). At that point in time another sweep could have been organised along with a small bomber strike by IJA bombers escorted by 60 fighters - all of the hundreds of others could have been set to SWEEP. The rationale here would have been to "test" the CAP and see how much the previous day had weakened it. If it was very weak then the airfield bombing campaign could have been titrated to the right level to allow maximal attrition of escaping ships.

4. No matter what else happened Mikes should have been deployed to Rangoon and Tavoy to continually SWEEP Ye. This would have put his best fighter into its most effective anti-fighter role and would have maximised both efficiency and effectiveness ( not at all the same thing )... a thing which is key to Japanese success.

5. Port Blair should have been abandoned and every effort made to rush reinforcements into Ye to retake that before I could air transport in enough troops to hold it. With the Mikes SWEEPING from 2 hexes the Zeroes should have LRCAPPED Ye in order to shoot down transports and make the airbridge prohibitively expensive. By shipping these forces in he could have maintained his strength south of Mandalay and prevented the breakthrough into Burma proper which is now 180 miles from Rangoon and has cut off what looks like 5 Japanese divisions, including the Imperial Guard Division.

He tried to hold everything and do everything at once instead of focussing on the 1 or 2 essential points and by trying to do everything he actually failed at the most essential thing ( preventing the breakthrough at Mandalay ). Interestingly enough he seems not to have realised that he DID actually break the Soviet and British air forces. I've had to downgrade several squadrons to Kittyhawks, LaGGs and Buffalos after running out of Spits, Mig-3s and Hurricanes. I' rebuilding and I have enough to make a strong fight for Haiphong ( a nice airfield with good long lanes of flight into his SLOCs. A few Wellingtons, Il-4s, B-25s and A-20s could do a LOT of damage if based at Haiphong.

I think his morale is suffering even though he actually achieved his goal - breaking the British and Soviet air forces. His problem is that he broke them too late and at a time when I no longer needed them to hold ( since I'd just achieved the breakthrough at Mandalay). But, when he got serious about breaking them and massed his fighters etc he broke them in 2 days. He could, and should, have done this earlier.



On another note: So far no-one has correctly guessed the base I will invade next. I think this is partly because I have been conducting my own Maskirovka with forumites as I do think that once a target is mentioned it is natural for curiosity to win out and have people ask the opponent how well that target is defended ( even in a roundabout way such a question gives hints ). So, in about a week's time my actual true plan for the "Big Ball of Ships and Stuff" - BigBOSS - will be revealed.

My own strikes ( which have cost me 4 CAs heavily damaged ) and my maskirovka by my entire submarine fleet have drawn him to one place, the British fleet ( which will join with Wasp, when it arrives and comprise my fleet train escort ) has threatened another but the blow will fall elsewhere entirely. Even if there have been no leading questions in his thread I think I've sold him on Marcus sufficiently by feinting towards Wake but having my subs hang around Marcus. He'll see the obvious thrust, then see the "hidden thrust" ( the subs ) and deduce that I'm trying a dummy on Wake and trying to decoy his CVs to the south pacific ( with my RN raid on Papaete ) whilst actually aiming for Marcus ( potentially this will be aided by people in his thread urging him to look for hidden threats or other bases in the Central Pacific I might be going for ). It is my experience that once people see through a feint and find a more cunning plan underneath it with a target which is being approached by stealth they pat themselves on the back and go "Aha, I saw through this guy's plan. I'm a great general." and throw their energies into defeating said plan. They rarely look for the third layer of deception ( which this plan has but which I obviously won't go into now but which will reveal itself before the final, fourth, layer of the plan goes into action) at all, nevermind the fourth layer which is the actual target.

Sorry for "using" the innate tendencies of people to ask about upcoming targets in AARs but it would have been remiss of me not to use all the aspects of human psychology ( including those which aren't in either Damian or myself ) in order to achieve success for the plan I developed on Day 1. And jsut to be clear... I amn't accusing anyone of leaking info on purpose or anything. There is just an innate tendency to ask Player A how well defended the target Player B has indicated he is going to invade is or to suggest that Player A look at his plan again to see if he's overlooked something if you can see a huge hole in it right where Player B is aiming. I'm totally comfortable with such questions being asked but I also recognise that a player who looks at a plan again will see that hole and then plug it. So, let him see imaginary holes and plug them by drawing forces away from regions I am actually planning to invade.


Oh, in other news: I've identified 1 reserve division at Hue and the 53rd Garrison Division on board ships and on its way to Camranh Bay. Excellent, two more divisions from his reserve committed to regions of my choosing and no longer available for the invasion of Nz and Oz.

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RE: Defeating the Devil !!! ( aka Damian ) - 10/8/2008 2:20:56 PM   
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Skipped the 1st as nothing much happened. If anyone wants to examine the state of play for themselves drop me a PM with your email and I'll send you the turn file along with the passwords and you can have a look at things yourself.

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Sub attack at 78,60

Japanese Ships
DD Oboro
DD Kisaragi
DD Sazanami
DD Sagiri

Allied Ships
SS SHCH105

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Day Air attack on Hanoi [Tonkin] , at 36,37

Japanese aircraft
B5N2 Kate x 3

No Japanese losses

Runway hits 1

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Day Air attack on Hanoi [Tonkin] , at 36,37

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zeke x 9
G4M1 Betty x 78
Ki-21-II Sally x 26
Ki-264 Angel x 3

No Japanese losses

Airbase hits 7
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 30

Very few fighters. I sense another ambush coming up here. The RAF and Red Air Force have both almost completed rebuilding.

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Day Air attack on Sovetskaya Gavan , at 73,30

Japanese aircraft
A5M4 Claude x 27
D3A2 Val x 8
B5N2 Kate x 33
Ki-43-I Oscar x 24

Japanese aircraft losses
D3A2 Val: 1 damaged

Airbase hits 2
Runway hits 26

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Day Air attack on Sovetskaya Gavan , at 73,30

Japanese aircraft
D3A2 Val x 24

Japanese aircraft losses
D3A2 Val: 1 damaged

Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 20

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Day Air attack on Pucheng [Cent China] , at 49,40

Japanese aircraft
Ki-27 Nate x 11
Ki-32 Mary x 3

No Japanese losses

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Day Air attack on Haiphong [Tonkin] , at 37,38

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zeke x 92
G4M1 Betty x 80
Ki-109E Mike x 33
Ki-32 Mary x 9
Ki-48-II Lily x 12
Ki-21-II Sally x 41
Ki-15II Babs x 3

Allied aircraft
no flights

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
TBM-1 Avenger: 1 destroyed
IL-2 Shturmovik: 3 destroyed
IL-2M Shturmovik: 2 destroyed

Airbase hits 11
Airbase supply hits 12
Runway hits 45

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Day Air attack on Tavoy [Burma] , at 28,37

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
B-19A x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
G5N2-L Liz: 1 destroyed


Airbase hits 1

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Day Air attack on Rangoon [Burma] , at 29,33

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-I Oscar x 4

Allied aircraft
Pe-2 x 48

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-57 Topsy: 10 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Pe-2: 1 destroyed, 4 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
58 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Airbase hits 7
Airbase supply hits 4
Runway hits 34

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Day Air attack on Bangkok [Thailand] , at 29,39

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zeke x 66
Ki-109E Mike x 5

Allied aircraft
B-17D Fortress x 70
B-17E Fortress x 91

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zeke: 2 destroyed
L3Y1 Tina: 3 destroyed
H6K2-L Mavis: 3 destroyed


Japanese ground losses:
82 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

Airbase hits 4
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 45

Another nice strike. One thing I will point out though is that I'm only getting 1 hit from every 3 bombers so that's something like a 2% hit rate. That's atrocious. On the other hand sheer numbers achieves success even with such low hit rates.

One other major mistake Damian has made is in seeming to "accept" that the B-17s are untouchable and thus resigning himself to their predations. In his situation ( and I've played the Japs in this mod a few times ) I never had any problems defeating B-17s by aggressively targetting their airbases. You might only kill 5 or 6 a day that way BUT given that the Allies only get 12 B-17s per month as replacements killing 5 or 6 a day for a week or two very quickly runs the number of B-17s down to such a low level that their impact becomes negligible.

Damian seems to very much meet threats on their own terms instead of looking for indirect counters. E.g. If bombers fly then I'll hit them with fighters. If my fighters can't hit them then I'm helpless. This is a major error.

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Day Air attack on Soerabaja [Java] , at 23,66

Japanese aircraft
G3M2 Nell x 21
Ki-32 Mary x 15

Japanese aircraft losses
G3M2 Nell: 3 destroyed, 4 damaged
Ki-32 Mary: 1 damaged


Allied ground losses:
14 casualties reported

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 15

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Day Air attack on Soerabaja [Java] , at 23,66

Japanese aircraft
Ki-32 Mary x 11

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-32 Mary: 1 destroyed

Runway hits 11

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Day Air attack on Manila/Cavite [PH] , at 43,52

Japanese aircraft
Ki-27 Nate x 16
Ki-109E Mike x 15
Ki-32 Mary x 26
Ki-48-I Lily x 54
Ki-21-II Sally x 36
Ki-15II Babs x 5
Ki-46-II Dinah x 5

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-27 Nate: 1 damaged
Ki-109E Mike: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
Ki-32 Mary: 1 damaged
Ki-48-I Lily: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
Ki-21-II Sally: 1 destroyed


Allied ground losses:
28 casualties reported
Vehicles lost 2

Airbase hits 3
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 105

I'm low on supplies here. I started with about 25,000 tons in Manilla and now I'm down to about 17,000 tons. However once I retake Rangoon I will be close enough to fly supplies in via Catalina and even strategic bomber ( Wellington, B-19, B-24 etc ). Currently all of those planes are tasked with flying supplies into Ye and Port Blair but once Rangoon is taken those two bases will be relatively secure.

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Day Air attack on RTA 4th Division, at 35,30


Allied aircraft
IL-2 Shturmovik x 135
IL-2M Shturmovik x 16


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
52 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

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Day Air attack on RTA 4th Division, at 35,30


Allied aircraft
SB-2M x 83


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
62 casualties reported

This Division is holding out at Lashio. A few Chinese divisions are on the way but I want to knock the Japanese around a bit first so that those divisions will be succesful when they Shock Attack.

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Day Air attack on ROC 62nd Field Army , at 43,41

Japanese aircraft
D3A2 Val x 24

Japanese aircraft losses
D3A2 Val: 2 destroyed, 1 damaged


Allied ground losses:
31 casualties reported

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Day Air attack on Pp Army 91st Division, at 43,52

Japanese aircraft
Ki-48-II Lily x 12

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-48-II Lily: 2 destroyed


Allied ground losses:
31 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

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Day Air attack on TF at 28,34

Japanese aircraft
Ki-48-II Lily x 6

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
AK Empire Cormorant, Bomb hits 6, on fire, heavy damage

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Day Air attack on TF, near Ye [Burma] at 29,35

Japanese aircraft
Ki-48-II Lily x 8

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-48-II Lily: 1 damaged

Allied Ships
AK Empire Gilbert, Bomb hits 2, on fire
AP Neptuna, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage

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Sub attack near Palau [Nanyo] at 51,68

Japanese Ships
DD Yukaze
DD Numakaze

Allied Ships
SS KXVI, hits 3


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Ground combat at Skovorodino [SIB]

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 218339 troops, 2856 guns, 1316 vehicles, Assault Value = 5255

Defending force 100621 troops, 1720 guns, 1 vehicles, Assault Value = 3098

Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 6

Japanese max assault: 5221 - adjusted assault: 4047

Allied max defense: 3304 - adjusted defense: 24771

Japanese assault odds: 0 to 1 (fort level 6)

Japanese ground losses:
20822 casualties reported
Guns lost 366
Vehicles lost 23

Allied ground losses:
1756 casualties reported
Guns lost 74

I have several hundred engineers on the way here to help rebuild the fort levels but this is all just diversion. In a short while I'm going to attack him from Borzya and with just a little luck pull a fairly major surprise. Initially I was going to go cross-country to Arshaan but attacking out of Borzya offers the possibility of routing a dozen IJA divisions and completely unhinging his entire line in Manchuria and northern China. If I can get bases in Manchuria ( which he can attack ) then I'll feel justified in basing strategic bombers there and bombing the Japanese industry in Korea, China and the Home Islands.... inviting more bomber attacks on these captured airbases, attacks my fighters can meet on favourable terms and use to attrit the enemy aerial forces.

I've got to say that the more I read about Monty the more I think that:
a) he was a despicable individual on a personal level
b) he had a LOT of psychological issues centring around his personal identity and self-loathing
c) he was a MUCH better strategist ( as opposed to general ) than most people give him credit for ---- although his ego and need for self-aggrandisement got in the way.

He more clearly enunciated the need to shape the battlefield, write down enemy forces and balance loss rates and operational cadence against replacement pool totals and rate than any other Allied general I know of. Really every Japanese player really would do well to read about Montgomery's strategic problems and solution from August 1944 to VE day. There are huge lessons there for the Japanese player.... And no, I'm not talking about any of the ego-tripping about Market Garden etc but the actual issues he faced and the solutions he and his staff came up with. Anyways, enough drum-banging for now.

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Ground combat at Manila/Cavite [PH]

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 99637 troops, 1172 guns, 854 vehicles, Assault Value = 2617

Defending force 57337 troops, 1231 guns, 384 vehicles, Assault Value = 2185

Japanese max assault: 2487 - adjusted assault: 2808

Allied max defense: 2139 - adjusted defense: 7849

Japanese assault odds: 0 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese ground losses:
6761 casualties reported
Guns lost 152
Vehicles lost 8

Allied ground losses:
661 casualties reported
Guns lost 30

If I can keep Manilla supplied I think they can hold out for a damned long time.


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Ground combat at Suva [FIJI]

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 14821 troops, 208 guns, 128 vehicles, Assault Value = 429

Defending force 4783 troops, 49 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 174



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Ground combat at Soerabaja [Java]

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 40745 troops, 774 guns, 655 vehicles, Assault Value = 984

Defending force 26711 troops, 194 guns, 38 vehicles, Assault Value = 431

Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 4

Japanese max assault: 859 - adjusted assault: 387

Allied max defense: 378 - adjusted defense: 482

Japanese assault odds: 0 to 1 (fort level 4)

Japanese ground losses:
1774 casualties reported
Guns lost 40
Vehicles lost 4

Allied ground losses:
542 casualties reported
Guns lost 21

This will require careful timing as my rescue mission is too far away to intervene before Soerabaja falls. I'll have to withdraw southward into the wilds of Java and try to eke out an existence there while awaiting rescue.


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Ground combat at Ye [Burma]

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 9640 troops, 140 guns, 108 vehicles, Assault Value = 298

Defending force 19954 troops, 287 guns, 29 vehicles, Assault Value = 279



Allied ground losses:
10 casualties reported
Vehicles lost 1


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Ground combat at 47,38

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 40665 troops, 609 guns, 335 vehicles, Assault Value = 1084

Defending force 6041 troops, 71 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 318

Japanese max assault: 2300 - adjusted assault: 1531

Allied max defense: 312 - adjusted defense: 87

Japanese assault odds: 17 to 1

Japanese ground losses:
995 casualties reported
Guns lost 28

Allied ground losses:
400 casualties reported
Guns lost 28

Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

A tripwire army gets pushed back. 1500 AV won't be enough to break my real defensive line so all's still well in Northern China.

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Ground combat at Canton [S China]

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 20068 troops, 230 guns, 69 vehicles, Assault Value = 749

Defending force 25435 troops, 245 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1297



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Ground combat at Moulmein [Burma]

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 29672 troops, 276 guns, 923 vehicles, Assault Value = 896

Defending force 16742 troops, 343 guns, 21 vehicles, Assault Value = 663



Allied ground losses:
20 casualties reported


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Ground combat at Lashio [Burma]

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 3990 troops, 39 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 213

Defending force 3459 troops, 43 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 116



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Ground combat at Taung Gyi [Burma]

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 13080 troops, 182 guns, 2 vehicles, Assault Value = 741

Defending force 20125 troops, 328 guns, 29 vehicles, Assault Value = 546



Allied ground losses:
8 casualties reported


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Ground combat at 35,40

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 21930 troops, 320 guns, 1 vehicles, Assault Value = 1170

Defending force 6811 troops, 93 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 227

Allied max assault: 1098 - adjusted assault: 504

Japanese max defense: 229 - adjusted defense: 155

Allied assault odds: 3 to 1

Japanese ground losses:
410 casualties reported
Guns lost 17

Allied ground losses:
275 casualties reported
Guns lost 21
Vehicles lost 1

Defeated Japanese Units Retreating!

Still pushing down toward Rangoon.

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Ground combat at Port Blair [Andaman]

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 3668 troops, 71 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 207

Defending force 3355 troops, 44 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 82

Allied max assault: 326 - adjusted assault: 150

Japanese max defense: 76 - adjusted defense: 83

Allied assault odds: 1 to 1


Japanese ground losses:
34 casualties reported

Allied ground losses:
523 casualties reported
Guns lost 10

Damn, I was hoping to write them down more than that. I have spotted several APs about 2 days sail south of Port Blair and I take this to mean a significant reinforcement operation is underway ( perhaps an evacuation but I think Damian wants to reinforce rather than retreat . In response I'm sending in my two remaining BBs, 3 CLs and a dozen DDs. By not showing these ships for the last while I think I've lulled Damian into thinking that I don't have them available. After all who would let 3 divisions dangle in the breeze under BB bombardment without ever trying to intervene with his own BBs if he had them?


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RE: Defeating the Devil !!! ( aka Damian ) - 10/8/2008 3:46:01 PM   
Jaroen


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Status: offline 		Thank you for putting down your ideas on your use of extreme altitude bombing. I hope you don't mind me asking/discussing anything on that part and other things.

Here's the first question/issue:
Concerning this high altitude bomber attack, see below.

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Day Air attack on Bangkok [Thailand] , at 29,39
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zeke x 66
Ki-109E Mike x 5
Allied aircraft
B-17D Fortress x 70
B-17E Fortress x 91
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zeke: 2 destroyed
L3Y1 Tina: 3 destroyed
H6K2-L Mavis: 3 destroyed
Japanese ground losses:
82 casualties reported
Guns lost 2
Airbase hits 4
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 45

Another nice strike. One thing I will point out though is that I'm only getting 1 hit from every 3 bombers so that's something like a 2% hit rate. That's atrocious. On the other hand sheer numbers achieves success even with such low hit rates.
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My question is what you compare that 2% hit rate with? Compared to historical results or WitP results?

It is my thought that historically such extreme altitude bombardments were not executed because of an even much lower hit rate. Figures of US daylight bombardments over Germany exist aplenty (but not at hand) and I believe it was calculated how much bombers and bombs it took to hit a target like a mile wide circle on what altitude. This showed, I think to remember, hundreds of bombers just to achieve a few bombs to strike as close as a few hundred yards. And that's from a medium to high altitude like 18.000 feet. Perhaps I'm not right on target with these figures but I think it's not far from reality. Thus a  target like a large airfield would require thousands of bombers on extreme altitude to even come close to the number of hits you scored. According to my reasoning. Don't you agree that compared to real historical bombing results you are doing extremely well with getting a 2% hit rate per bomber?

And another question/discussion is about Japanese tactics to counter such attacks. Again I'm really happy with finding your own thoughts on that matter as I couldn't think of any counter measures myself. It's about this:

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One other major mistake Damian has made is in seeming to "accept" that the B-17s are untouchable and thus resigning himself to their predations. In his situation ( and I've played the Japs in this mod a few times ) I never had any problems defeating B-17s by aggressively targetting their airbases. You might only kill 5 or 6 a day that way BUT given that the Allies only get 12 B-17s per month as replacements killing 5 or 6 a day for a week or two very quickly runs the number of B-17s down to such a low level that their impact becomes negligible.

Damian seems to very much meet threats on their own terms instead of looking for indirect counters. E.g. If bombers fly then I'll hit them with fighters. If my fighters can't hit them then I'm helpless. This is a major error.
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I've been following your AAR's for quite some time already since I find them very instructive. There you go, another compliment!    But I don't recollect any specific tactic or strategy in which you resolve to use a large anti-4E-bomber campaign to stop those monsters. The alternative you mention above seems very hard to execute at minimum and likely impossible to maintain because of extreme losses by the Japanese themselves and counter-counter tactics by the allies. Perhaps I'm mistaken and would therefore highly appreciate any explanation on this tactic and would definately enjoy hearing about any other counter strategies. Would you mind explaining???

And hopefully you're still with me so far. I was hoping you would clearify your ideas on using the untouchable Pe-2's. Those are dive bombers right? If not the following doesn't apply.
So how come those dive bombers are doing terribly good in surviving AAA and most of all, enemy fighters? Historically they were more or less like sitting ducks after finishing a dive attack, flying rather slow and low with hardly any strong on board defenses. Dive bombers should not be unvulnarable to enemy fighter planes especially when those happen to fly low level CAP's. If you happen to agree on this how do you view using those Pe-2's the way you do???

Hmmmm, yes I am somewhat critical of WitP producing non-historical use of units. Though it doesn't stop me enjoying it immensely and it's very easy to restrict myself not doing things which are blatantly a-historical. I definately don't intend to criticize you en find your AAR's very instructive! 

Good luck with fighting the evil empire but I don't think you need it. I'm almost sorry with Damian . . .


< Message edited by Jaroen -- 10/8/2008 3:56:56 PM >

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RE: Defeating the Devil !!! ( aka Damian ) - 10/8/2008 5:25:11 PM   
Nemo121

 

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My understanding is that to make the game more "fun" the designer decided to allow more hits but to have each hit do less damage. E.g. it has been alluded to several times by various people who are supposedly "in the know" that the high rate of bomb and torpedo strikes we see when attacking ships is a result of this design decision. I am assuming that the same thing is happening with attacks against ground targets. E.g. 4 times as many bombs hit as would in real life but each bomb does 1/4 of the damage.

Overall though while I support every effort to make the game model more realistic I also believe in playing the game as given. So, if the game has the % hit from level bombing wrong then I just say "Well, it effects both sides so let's keep playing." I think this is, at least in part, due to the fact that I don't actually believe tactical combat effects much in-game. I believe very strongly that logistics determine the success or failure of operations long before that operation actually launches and that the tactical playing out of that operation is pretty much already determined by the logistical underpinnings of both sides. So, I tend not to sweat minor tactical things since I think that the war is won and lost on the greater logistical, grand strategic stage. Obviously though others disagree and that's fine. I offer only my opinion.


The main counter-strategy to B-17s raiding at high altitude can be divided into passive defensive, active defensive, operationally offensive and strategically offensive options.

1. Passive defence: Lure the Allies into bombing bases at which you have relatively small numbers of planes/outmoded planes. When 200 B-17s hit a base holding 3 x Ki-15 Babs and suffer 4 or 5 operational losses in so doing you, as Japan, have just won a victory because 1/3rd of the entire month's supply of B-17s has been lost in order to destory 3 obsolete airframes. So, passive defence doesn't mean minimising loss, it is actually, at its best, a way in which to actively attrit the enemy force at a very favourable rate.

2. Active Defence... Some of the Japanese guns can reach the B-17s at their highest altitude so I tend to bring those few high altitude AA guns with me to the bases I expect the Allies to be hitting with B-17s. Again, if a single raid costs the allies a dozen B-17s damaged with 4 to 6 succumbing then that's 2 weeks worth of B-17s lost to the Allies per attack. If I'm making 300 Zeroes a month then the Allies had better be destroying 150 planes per attack for that attack to be considered a success. given the presence of FlAK and plane dispersion among multiple airbases they just aren't going to destroy that many planes.

3. Operationally offensive...
There are a very limited number of bases from which B-17s can operate at full effectiveness. With a proper combination of fighter sweeps and long-range bomber attacks it should be possible to hit those B-17 bases fairly easily. I've often managed to destroy 40 or 50 B-17s in a single day's raid in this mod. I may only launch such a raid once a month since it takes a lot of preparation but with the Allies getting 12 B-17s per month if I can destroy 48 in that single day I've, essentially, wiped out 4 months of B-17 replacements. You only need to do that 2 or 3 times before the B-17 threat is negligible.

4. Strategic Offensive...
Again, capturing those airbases with ground troops really effectively pushes the Allied B-17s back out of range.


Overall I will say I've played the Japanese in this mod a few times and have never found the B-17 threat to be unmanageable.Is it difficult to defeat them? Yes but that's the fun. If it was easy to do then anyone could do it and there'd be no challenge involved and I wouldn't bother playing. As I've always said... I don't much care about winning but DO care about challenging myself to play as well as possible.


Pe-2... At present ALL dive-bombers are immune to interception after the pull-up from their dive-bombing attacks. I personally support making ALL dive-bombers vulnerable to interception post-attack but until ALL dive-bombers are changed to be vulnerable post-attack I don't support emplacing a single-plane solution. However IF they ever release a patch which makes them all vulnerable in the pull-up phase then I'd be more than happy to see it applied to the Pe-2.

At present all I'm doing with the Pe-2 is exploiting its technical-tactical characteristics to the fullest. I see this as no different to a Japanese player exloiting the technical-tactical characteristics of the A6M2. I always support fully modelling all flaws and vulnerabilities of all planes whether that be the Pe-2 or A6M2 but I'm not prepared to "hobble" a plane's real performance in order to give it a flaw it didn't have in order to "compensate" for the programme's failure to model a vulnerability it did have ( vulnerability in the pull-out ) when:
a) lowering the Pe-2s ceiling would result in further ahistoricity as it would result in Pe-2s being destroyed BEFORE they could drop their bombs and not afterwards, a crucial, crucial difference and
b) any solution to model vulnerability during the low-level pull-up for the Pe-2 wouldn't be extended to other planes.

Its a philosophical issue of course insofar as some people prefer to come up with multiple rules for individual airframes etc whereas I prefer to fix the problem with an entire TYPE of plane instead of making multiple individual rules for individual designs of that type.


As to combating the Pe-2s.... He should mass LOTS of IJA AAA Machinegun Bns. I did that in some of my games and butchered Pe-2s and Il-2s when they attacked. On one memorable occasion I shot down 64 Il-2s in a single afternoon with those AAA MG Bns ( which are particularly useful against dive-bombers at their pull-out altitude ). There is a counter. If there wasn't it'd be like plane minelaying which I ban ( because there isn't a counter ). The counter to the Pe-2s is pretty much the same as for the B-17s except that it is much, much easier as they have a maximum range of 6 and thus the number of airfields they can operate from near the front is limited and highly predictable.

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RE: Defeating the Devil !!! ( aka Damian ) - 10/8/2008 5:28:15 PM   
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I'm more than happy to discuss this stuff. I don't mind anyone disagreeing with me. After all intelligent, sane people CAN just have different views on things. That's fine and what makes life interesting. Without discussion we'd never be exposed to other viewpoints and our opinions would solidify and, eventually, ossify. That's a bad thing so I'm all for open discussion and debate and, even, outright disagreement. When that happens sometimes people see better ideas out there and change their opinions. I know that's happened to me in the past and I'm sure it'll happen again in the future.

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RE: Defeating the Devil !!! ( aka Damian ) - 10/9/2008 12:57:28 AM   
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Something very interesting happens in tomorrow's turn but for now we have to get through todays.

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ASW attack at 77,60

Japanese Ships
DD Matsukaze
DD Harukaze
DD Mochizuki

Allied Ships
SS SHCH106, heavy damage

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ASW attack at 77,60

Japanese Ships
DD Hatsushimo
DD Nenohi
CL Katori
BB Mutsu
CV Akagi

Allied Ships
SS SHCH106, heavy damage

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ASW attack near Palau [Nanyo] at 51,68

Japanese Ships
DD Numakaze

Allied Ships
SS KXVI

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ASW attack at 77,60

Japanese Ships
DD Hatsushimo
DD Nenohi
CA Aoba
CA Tone
BB Mutsu

Allied Ships
SS SHCH106, heavy damage

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ASW attack at 77,60

Japanese Ships
DD Hatsushimo
DD Nenohi
CV Kaga

Allied Ships
SS SHCH106, heavy damage

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Sub attack at 77,61

Japanese Ships
AO Hayamoto, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
DD Kisaragi
DD Oboro
DD Isonami
DD Kasumi

Allied Ships
SS S-34

Well, that confirms it, the enemy CVs are stationed north-east of Marcus Island just waiting for me to land there. I sank the Hayamoto but the CVs got away. No biggie, they are so far out of position that they might as well not be on the map right now.

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Day Air attack on Sovetskaya Gavan , at 73,30

Japanese aircraft
A5M4 Claude x 27
D3A2 Val x 8
B5N2 Kate x 3
Ki-43-I Oscar x 24

No Japanese losses

Runway hits 16

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Day Air attack on Changsha [S China] , at 45,37

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-II Sally x 10

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-II Sally: 2 destroyed, 3 damaged

Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 1

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Day Air attack on Pucheng [Cent China] , at 49,40

Japanese aircraft
Ki-27 Nate x 9
Ki-32 Mary x 3

No Japanese losses

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Day Air attack on Haiphong [Tonkin] , at 37,38

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zeke x 88
G4M1 Betty x 71
Ki-32 Mary x 9
Ki-15II Babs x 4

Allied aircraft
no flights

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
IL-2 Shturmovik: 3 destroyed

Airbase hits 6
Airbase supply hits 7
Runway hits 52

This is useful to keep his bombers occupied. I get 5 Il2s and Il-2ms a day so losing a few a day to bombing raids like this in order to keep 100 fighters and 100 bombers occupied is a real bargain.

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Day Air attack on Ye [Burma] , at 29,35

Japanese aircraft
Ki-109E Mike x 36

No Japanese losses

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Day Air attack on Rangoon [Burma] , at 29,33

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-I Oscar x 3

Allied aircraft
Pe-2 x 87

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-57 Topsy: 7 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Pe-2: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
85 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Airbase hits 13
Airbase supply hits 6
Runway hits 49

Hmm, he has transports in Rangoon eh? I bet he is flying troops of the 4 trapped divisions out of the various pockets they occupy.

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Day Air attack on Soerabaja [Java] , at 23,66

Japanese aircraft
Ki-32 Mary x 14

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-32 Mary: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged


Allied ground losses:
5 casualties reported

Runway hits 8

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Day Air attack on Koepang [Timor] , at 29,77

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zeke x 34
G3M2 Nell x 16
Ki-32 Mary x 23
Ki-48-I Lily x 44
Ki-48-II Lily x 14
Ki-21-II Sally x 28
Ki-46-II Dinah x 5

Allied aircraft
P-40B Tomahawk x 38
Kittyhawk I x 10

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zeke: 7 destroyed
Ki-32 Mary: 3 destroyed
Ki-48-I Lily: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
Ki-48-II Lily: 2 destroyed
Ki-21-II Sally: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged
Ki-46-II Dinah: 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
P-40B Tomahawk: 10 destroyed, 6 damaged
Kittyhawk I: 2 destroyed, 3 damaged
Do 24K-2: 1 destroyed


Allied ground losses:
11 casualties reported

Airbase hits 15
Airbase supply hits 9
Runway hits 63

Well, well, Koepang is the new hot zone in this war. I have lots of USAAF fighters there I need to send into combat to gain experience. Their pilots are currently 50 to 55 Exp and that's just not good enough. Committing them to combat will see a lot of losses but also a big increase in experience. So, for now these pilots fly in P-40Bs, get shot down easily but gain experience. Then I will rebuild them and send them back into combat in P-40Es.

In the meantime he is losing more pilots than I am and I'm continuing to write down his pilot pools.

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Day Air attack on Manila/Cavite [PH] , at 43,52

Japanese aircraft
B4Y1 Jean x 42
Ki-27 Nate x 17
Ki-32 Mary x 26
Ki-48-I Lily x 53
Ki-48-II Lily x 10
Ki-15II Babs x 4
Ki-46-II Dinah x 4

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-27 Nate: 3 destroyed


Allied ground losses:
97 casualties reported
Guns lost 2
Vehicles lost 4

Airbase hits 3
Airbase supply hits 4
Runway hits 51
Port hits 3

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Day Air attack on RTA 4th Division, at 35,30


Allied aircraft
IL-2 Shturmovik x 149
IL-2M Shturmovik x 19
LaGG-3 x 21


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
96 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

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Day Air attack on RTA 4th Division, at 35,30

Allied aircraft
SB-2M x 87

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
69 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

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Day Air attack on TF, near Ye [Burma] at 29,35

Japanese aircraft
Ki-48-II Lily x 3

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
AK Empire Gilbert

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ASW attack at 77,61

Japanese Ships
DD Kisaragi
DD Oboro
AO Mamiya
DD Isonami
DD Kasumi

Allied Ships
SS S-34

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Sub attack at 77,61

Japanese Ships
CL Katori
DD Hatsushimo
DD Nenohi
CL Yura
BB Mutsu

Allied Ships
SS S-34

The Mutsu and another AO are spotted. This is definitely a major concentration of enemy CVs. Weirdly enough his BB TF includes the Katori, an 18 knot training CL. Is he willingly slowing his CV and escort TFs to 3 hexes of movement per 12 hours? Weird. They have high AA values but is that really worth reducing his TF speed so much? If he were low on CLs etc I could understand this but prior to my taking over the game the Japanese had lost only 1 CL, 3 DDs and a DE so he isn't exactly short on escorts.

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Sub attack at 77,61

Japanese Ships
AO Hayamoto, Shell hits 3, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage

Allied Ships
SS S-34, hits 1

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ASW attack at 77,61

Japanese Ships
DD Kisaragi
DD Oboro
AO Naruto
DD Isonami

Allied Ships
SS S-34


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Ground combat at Skovorodino [SIB]

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 193224 troops, 2369 guns, 1226 vehicles, Assault Value = 4258

Defending force 106907 troops, 1649 guns, 126 vehicles, Assault Value = 3079



Allied ground losses:
31 casualties reported
Guns lost 2


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Ground combat at Manila/Cavite [PH]

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 76191 troops, 791 guns, 714 vehicles, Assault Value = 2009

Defending force 56686 troops, 1205 guns, 378 vehicles, Assault Value = 2161



Allied ground losses:
49 casualties reported
Guns lost 1


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Ground combat at Suva [FIJI]

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 14899 troops, 211 guns, 128 vehicles, Assault Value = 429

Defending force 4771 troops, 48 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 175



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Ground combat at Ye [Burma]

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 9806 troops, 144 guns, 109 vehicles, Assault Value = 303

Defending force 20011 troops, 289 guns, 29 vehicles, Assault Value = 280



Allied ground losses:
5 casualties reported


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Ground combat at Canton [S China]

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 20305 troops, 237 guns, 77 vehicles, Assault Value = 757

Defending force 25475 troops, 249 guns, 1 vehicles, Assault Value = 1300



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Ground combat at Soerabaja [Java]

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 35450 troops, 727 guns, 583 vehicles, Assault Value = 911

Defending force 26145 troops, 174 guns, 37 vehicles, Assault Value = 415



Allied ground losses:
104 casualties reported


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Ground combat at Moulmein [Burma]

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 15457 troops, 60 guns, 912 vehicles, Assault Value = 948

Defending force 16868 troops, 344 guns, 21 vehicles, Assault Value = 671



Allied ground losses:
2 casualties reported
Guns lost 1


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Ground combat at Lashio [Burma]

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 3996 troops, 40 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 213

Defending force 3269 troops, 37 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 110



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Ground combat at Taung Gyi [Burma]

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 9579 troops, 130 guns, 2 vehicles, Assault Value = 741

Defending force 19187 troops, 317 guns, 29 vehicles, Assault Value = 509



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Post #: 46
RE: Defeating the Devil !!! ( aka Damian ) - 10/9/2008 1:08:10 AM   
floydg

 

Posts: 1077
Joined: 6/27/2004
From: Middletown, NJ
Status: online 		Part AAR, part psychological thriller. This is addictive reading.

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Post #: 47
RE: Defeating the Devil !!! ( aka Damian ) - 10/9/2008 1:14:30 AM   
Nemo121

 

Posts: 3755
Joined: 2/6/2004
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So, a day after making my point about how I would counter B-17s and Pe-2s by bombing their bases the base at which I had my Pe-2s until yesterday was bombed. So, if I were a betting man I'd say someone posted to Damian's thread and asked him why he wasn't/if it was possible to bomb my Pe-2 and B-17 bases.

Unfortunately for me I rushed the turn and while I had expected such a raid after mentioning the counters to Pe-2s and B-17s I had forgotten to set the fighters at Mandalay to CAP. OOPS . Well, if he follows the pattern he'll hit Calcutta tomorrow and he'll find my fighters there DEFINITELY have their CAP level set.

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Sub attack near Kendari [Celebes] at 33,71

Japanese Ships
DD Wakaba, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
DD RTN Chandraburi
DD RTN Puket
DD Yayoi
DD Asagumo

Allied Ships
SS SHCH109, hits 2, on fire

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ASW attack near Palau [Nanyo] at 51,68

Japanese Ships
DD Numakaze
DD Yukaze
DD Okikaze

Allied Ships
SS KXVI

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Day Air attack on Sovetskaya Gavan , at 73,30

Japanese aircraft
A5M4 Claude x 26
D3A2 Val x 8
B5N2 Kate x 33
Ki-43-I Oscar x 24

Japanese aircraft losses
B5N2 Kate: 1 damaged
Ki-43-I Oscar: 1 destroyed

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 31

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Day Air attack on Sovetskaya Gavan , at 73,30

Japanese aircraft
A5M4 Claude x 30
D3A2 Val x 25
Ki-27 Nate x 24

No Japanese losses

Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 29

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Day Air attack on Tavoy [Burma] , at 28,37

Japanese aircraft
Ki-109E Mike x 8

Allied aircraft
B-17D Fortress x 47
B-17E Fortress x 68

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-109E Mike: 1 destroyed
Ki-57 Topsy: 1 destroyed


Japanese ground losses:
12 casualties reported

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 5

1,840 bombs dropped for 6 hits. That's a 0.3% hit rate. Hardly excessive or decisive. Personally I think too much is made of the B-17s and Pe-2s. Damian keeps referring to them but, in actuality, what has destroyed his air force is NOT the B-17s and Pe-2s but the fact that I destroyed over 900 Zeroes and 800 level bombers in Air to Air combat in the last 20 days of May. THAT is what has destroyed his air force, not any B-17 or Pe-2 raids.

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Day Air attack on Mandalay [Burma] , at 33,29

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 71

Allied aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 6 destroyed, 16 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
LaGG-3: 3 destroyed
IL-2 Shturmovik: 4 destroyed
Spitfire VB: 4 destroyed
I-16 Type 24: 3 destroyed
MiG-3: 4 destroyed
Hurricane I: 2 destroyed
F.K.51: 1 destroyed


Oops


Allied ground losses:
5 casualties reported

Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 13

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Day Air attack on Mandalay [Burma] , at 33,29

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 71
Ki-264 Angel x 3

Allied aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 2 destroyed, 4 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
LaGG-3: 3 destroyed
IL-2 Shturmovik: 10 destroyed
Hurricane I: 5 destroyed
MiG-3: 4 destroyed
I-16 Type 24: 1 destroyed
IL-2M Shturmovik: 1 destroyed
Spitfire VB: 5 destroyed
Kittyhawk I: 2 destroyed

Airbase hits 4
Airbase supply hits 4
Runway hits 45

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Day Air attack on Soerabaja [Java] , at 23,66

Japanese aircraft
Ki-32 Mary x 11

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-32 Mary: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged

Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 12

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Day Air attack on Koepang [Timor] , at 29,77

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zeke x 68
G3M2 Nell x 17
Ki-32 Mary x 26
Ki-48-I Lily x 51
Ki-48-II Lily x 18
Ki-21-II Sally x 48
Ki-46-II Dinah x 7

Allied aircraft
P-39D Airacobra x 26
P-40B Tomahawk x 65
Kittyhawk I x 8

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zeke: 36 destroyed
G3M2 Nell: 2 destroyed
Ki-32 Mary: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
Ki-48-I Lily: 2 destroyed
Ki-48-II Lily: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
Ki-21-II Sally: 4 destroyed, 1 damaged

36 Zeroes and pilots killed. A total of 46 IJN and IJA planes and pilots killed overall over Koepang today.

Allied aircraft losses
P-39D Airacobra: 23 destroyed
P-40B Tomahawk: 45 destroyed
Kittyhawk I: 9 destroyed
T-IVa: 1 destroyed

9 first-line Allied fighters destroyed. In total 78 planes were destroyed but 69 were obsolescent. Overall I've cleared a lot of deadwood away and most of my squadron Experience levels have gone up by 5 to 10 points today, making them much more competitive in Round 2 ( which is a few days away ).


Allied ground losses:
19 casualties reported
Vehicles lost 1

Airbase hits 18
Airbase supply hits 7
Runway hits 135

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Day Air attack on Manila/Cavite [PH] , at 43,52

Japanese aircraft
B4Y1 Jean x 42
Ki-27 Nate x 14
Ki-32 Mary x 26
Ki-48-I Lily x 52
Ki-48-II Lily x 10
Ki-15II Babs x 4
Ki-46-II Dinah x 4

Japanese aircraft losses
B4Y1 Jean: 2 destroyed, 1 damaged
Ki-27 Nate: 2 destroyed, 1 damaged
Ki-48-I Lily: 1 damaged


Allied ground losses:
153 casualties reported
Guns lost 3
Vehicles lost 3

Airbase hits 3
Airbase supply hits 5
Runway hits 109
Port hits 3
Port fuel hits 1

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Day Air attack on ROC 84th Field Army , at 50,32

Japanese aircraft
Ki-27 Nate x 10

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-27 Nate: 1 destroyed


Allied ground losses:
13 casualties reported

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Day Air attack on Ye [Burma] , at 29,35

Japanese aircraft
Ki-109E Mike x 30

No Japanese losses

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Day Air attack on TF, near Ye [Burma] at 29,35

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 18

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
AK Wosang, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AP Neptuna, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AK Empire Gilbert, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage

A few cripples. Tomorrow my BB TF ( 2 BBs, 2 or 3 CLs and a gaggle of DDs ) will visit Port Blair. I can now see 2 enemy transport TFs at sea within 4 hexes of Port Blair. They are either making for:
1) Port Blair,
2) Ye or
3) Rangoon to reinforce it and keep me from taking it.

My response is to send the BBs into Port Blair but with orders to retire TOWARD Ye on the basis that they can attack the transports if they land at Ye or Port Blair. Either will cause the failure of the landing. I am also pushing onto Rangoon at full strength and should take it in 2 to 3 days so if he is landing there I only need to buy 2 to 3 days - with that in mind I've flown my best 150 fighters into Ye and have also flown in 100 Pe-2s. IF these transports make for Ye or Rangoon my Pe-2s should butcher them. All in all a nice mutually supporting plan.

The only thing which can stop its success now is if he has seen my BBs and retreats.

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Sub attack near Palau [Nanyo] at 51,68

Japanese Ships
DD Numakaze
DD Yukaze
DD Okikaze

Allied Ships
SS KXVI


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Ground combat at Skovorodino [SIB]

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 194875 troops, 2416 guns, 1233 vehicles, Assault Value = 4359

Defending force 107549 troops, 1670 guns, 126 vehicles, Assault Value = 3105



Allied ground losses:
32 casualties reported
Guns lost 2


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Ground combat at Manila/Cavite [PH]

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 77187 troops, 811 guns, 717 vehicles, Assault Value = 2051

Defending force 56695 troops, 1208 guns, 375 vehicles, Assault Value = 2172



Allied ground losses:
92 casualties reported
Guns lost 3


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Ground combat at Suva [FIJI]

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 14933 troops, 212 guns, 127 vehicles, Assault Value = 480

Defending force 4759 troops, 49 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 173



Allied ground losses:
4 casualties reported


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Ground combat at Ye [Burma]

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 9940 troops, 145 guns, 109 vehicles, Assault Value = 308

Defending force 20157 troops, 298 guns, 29 vehicles, Assault Value = 280



Allied ground losses:
5 casualties reported


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Ground combat at 47,38

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 39724 troops, 589 guns, 333 vehicles, Assault Value = 1049

Defending force 5790 troops, 100 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 303

Japanese max assault: 2196 - adjusted assault: 3818

Allied max defense: 296 - adjusted defense: 12

Japanese assault odds: 318 to 1

Japanese ground losses:
791 casualties reported
Guns lost 13
Vehicles lost 1

Allied ground losses:
522 casualties reported
Guns lost 37

Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

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Ground combat at Canton [S China]

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 20461 troops, 239 guns, 78 vehicles, Assault Value = 763

Defending force 25531 troops, 252 guns, 1 vehicles, Assault Value = 1302



Allied ground losses:
19 casualties reported


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Ground combat at Soerabaja [Java]

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 35969 troops, 741 guns, 585 vehicles, Assault Value = 949

Defending force 26234 troops, 178 guns, 37 vehicles, Assault Value = 411



Allied ground losses:
131 casualties reported
Guns lost 1


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Ground combat at Moulmein [Burma]

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 15405 troops, 60 guns, 908 vehicles, Assault Value = 955

Defending force 17034 troops, 348 guns, 21 vehicles, Assault Value = 678



Allied ground losses:
9 casualties reported


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Ground combat at Lashio [Burma]

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 7245 troops, 91 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 389

Defending force 3269 troops, 37 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 110

Allied max assault: 166 - adjusted assault: 10

Japanese max defense: 75 - adjusted defense: 35

Allied assault odds: 0 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese ground losses:
27 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Allied ground losses:
167 casualties reported
Guns lost 4

This is a Chinese Army pushing across the river to Lashio. It'll rest up for a few days and then join with the others to attack Lashio properly.


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Ground combat at Taung Gyi [Burma]

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 9599 troops, 132 guns, 2 vehicles, Assault Value = 743

Defending force 18378 troops, 309 guns, 28 vehicles, Assault Value = 479



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Ground combat at 31,32

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 11565 troops, 207 guns, 302 vehicles, Assault Value = 791

Defending force 753 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 10

Allied max assault: 1060 - adjusted assault: 1007

Japanese max defense: 8 - adjusted defense: 3

Allied assault odds: 335 to 1

Japanese ground losses:
180 casualties reported

Allied ground losses:
27 casualties reported

Defeated Japanese Units Retreating!

This is the last obstacle on the way to Rangoon and now it has been overrun.

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Post #: 48
RE: Defeating the Devil !!! ( aka Damian ) - 10/9/2008 2:04:40 AM   
Nemo121

 

Posts: 3755
Joined: 2/6/2004
Status: offline 		Note: I've received a PM from someone who says he may have pointed Damian's attention toward Pe-2 and B-17 bases recently. Basically there are two points to this:

1. He deserves a lot of kudos for owning up and
2. At no point do I think he tried to unbalance the game or that Damian thought he was benefitting from insider knowledge etc.

Hell, the day after I made that post about countering Pe-2s and B-17s I sent 150 fighters into Mandalay - my mistake was setting their CAP level to 0% ;-). So, again, I just took advantage of the innate human desire to ask Player B about the region Player A has just said he's going to invade etc etc.

If anything asking Damian about how he was countering Pe-2s or Mandalay etc etc ( I'm not sure exactly what was said ) merely fell in line with my expectations and thus led him into a trap ( which failed ).

So, not even a hint of anyone ( Damian or whoever may have asked about Mandalay or counters to Pe-2s/B-17s etc ) cheating or breaking confidence or anything like that. Hell, so long as people don't go "Nemo said he is going to invade Base X" I'm perfectly fine with someone cutting and pasting my counters to B-17s and Pe-2s posting above into Damian's thread. I don't care about winning and if it helps him examine his thinking a bit and improve then I'm happy for it. After all the aim of the game isn't to win at all costs but merely to play as well as you can play. The better Damian plays the better it forces me to play. Since my enjoyment comes not from winning etc but from playing well ( by my own standards and goals ) the better Damian plays the more I'm going to enjoy the game.

I hope that's clear and that in no way was I intending to impugne anyone. I think that, from what I know, people just behaved normally, in a manner I had predicted and in a manner which I had already planned to take advantage of when making my post. If anyone was beng ueber-sneaky it was me

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Post #: 49
RE: Defeating the Devil !!! ( aka Damian ) - 10/9/2008 9:26:01 AM   
Jaroen


Posts: 54
Joined: 6/23/2008
From: Amsterdam
Status: offline 		Hey Nemo, thank you for your extensive answer to my questions about using the advantages the game offers. I think you're very right about some WitP-oddities (like bombing effectiveness) are shared by both parties and thus don't imbalance the game. Good to be reminded about that. I think you understood I don't like some tactics to be impossible to counter (when non-historical) and I am very pleased now knowing the possible counter tactics/strategies you offered. Such alternatives are hard to come up with when you don't have a very intimate knowledge of the game and knowing them gives a better sense of what to work with and how. To put it simply - the game's more fun that way!  

On the level of playing the game as it is given or trying to bend it to somewhat more historical rules/possibilities I'd say that's more a philosophical matter. To me it's actually more of an emotional thing. I just appreciate the historical accuracy and since this game offers such a thing on a grand scale (or pretends to) it feels like a bit of a bummer when sometimes it doesn't get it quite right. But I think you're right saying that same grand scale to be more about logistics and the importance of managing it to win the game. Nevertheless, part of the fun to me is playing with all the little pieces which simulate those war machines I've always been fascinated with.

Oh, by the way, I guess you do realize I didn't ask you about it all in order to help Damian. You say you're not bothered with Damian using (some) of those tactics suddenly or anybody having offered some help to Damian. Phew, that's great! I am reading his AAR but haven't posted in it nor contacted him in any other way. I won't tell you anything about what's going on inside his AAR but I just can't help myself mentioning that it's perhaps something like great minds thinking alike!? 

Of course the tactics you helped me with are now public knowledge and will hopefully help anyone in need!
Which you are aware of already and support. 

Good luck.

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Post #: 50
RE: Defeating the Devil !!! ( aka Damian ) - 10/9/2008 2:54:08 PM   
Nemo121

 

Posts: 3755
Joined: 2/6/2004
Status: offline 		AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 06/05/42

Calcutta it was. In other news Damian has made a major mistake today... He tells me he has seen a "juicy target off Western Australia... 4 BBs and several AKs". Since I have just sailed many APs and AKs ( but nothing larger than a DD ) from Geraldton I am assuming he has actually spotted something --- I'm guessing I must have run over a submarine as I know he has no airframes within range. In any case why tell me this? Why not just ambush me?

I responded with the following:

quote:

As to those 4 BBs. Well, since you've seen the entire Royal Navy in the Pacific recently the ONLY way I could have 4 BBs off Western Australia is if I had used the last month to massively fake you out and with a couple of raids on Wake and Marcus draw your attention eastward into the Pacific ( where it is strange I haven't actually invaded, ANYWHERE, yet ), pin most of your CVs there and then run most of my BBs, CAs, CLs, DDs and CVs as well as a whole load of AKs and APs loaded with troops westward along the safe passage channels in order to land on your eastern perimeter in a co-ordinated action with the British army in Burma.

IF I were very sneaky I could have done something like that. Landing in Java right now would, I am certain, collapse your entire perimeter and I'll I'd need would be the three USN CVs you haven't actually seen yet. If I were sneaky that is. I suppose it all depends how sneaky you think I am.



I didn't actually SAY I had done that - I don't like telling outright lies in-game, it strikes me as a little dishonourable - but I certainly planted a possible interpretation which is not only false but invites him to draw his CVs farther westward and farther away from where I will actually strike.

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ASW attack near Kendari [Celebes] at 33,71

Japanese Ships
DD Yayoi
DD RTN Chandraburi
DD RTN Puket
DD Asagumo

Allied Ships
SS SHCH109, hits 4, heavy damage

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Sub attack near Haiphong [Tonkin] at 37,38

Japanese Ships
AK Kano Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

Allied Ships
SS KXVIII

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Sub attack at 38,58

Japanese Ships
TK Sacramento Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire

Allied Ships
SS KXIV

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Day Air attack on Sovetskaya Gavan , at 73,30

Japanese aircraft
A5M4 Claude x 25
D3A2 Val x 8
B5N2 Kate x 32
Ki-43-I Oscar x 22

No Japanese losses

Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 29

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Day Air attack on Sovetskaya Gavan , at 73,30

Japanese aircraft
A5M4 Claude x 30
D3A2 Val x 23
Ki-27 Nate x 22

No Japanese losses

Airbase hits 3
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 32

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Day Air attack on Pucheng [Cent China] , at 49,40

Japanese aircraft
Ki-27 Nate x 9
Ki-32 Mary x 6

No Japanese losses

Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 2

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Day Air attack on Ye [Burma] , at 29,35

Ah, he tried a sweep but it didn't work. He has asked me why and I've pointed him toward the Lanchester Laws ( I've mentioned this previously but I don't think he has looked them up yet ) and pointed out that even inferior planes can generate a high number of firing passes if they are present in sufficient number. I'm sure if he'd sent in 100 Mikes today he'd have wiped me out of the sky.

Japanese aircraft
Ki-109E Mike x 32

Allied aircraft
Kittyhawk I x 18
Spitfire VB x 4
I-16 Type 24 x 36
LaGG-3 x 9
MiG-3 x 22

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-109E Mike: 27 destroyed

1/5th of his monthly supply of IJA pilots has been killed here today.... to no gain.

Allied aircraft losses
Kittyhawk I: 1 destroyed
I-16 Type 24: 3 destroyed
LaGG-3: 5 destroyed
MiG-3: 1 destroyed

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Day Air attack on Calcutta [India] , at 29,23

What's bad about this is that he DOES have airfields within range for Zeroes to fly sweeps into Calcutta yet he's lost so many Zeroes he probably doesn't feel like he can do those sweeps. Once you begin to lose things tend to accelerate. His loss of close to 900 Zeroes in the past 30 days means now he doesn't have enough left to expend on useful operations.

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 39

Allied aircraft
P-35A Hawk x 5
P-39D Airacobra x 14
P-40E Warhawk x 3
Buffalo/F2A x 12
Hurricane I x 19
Lancer x 9
Spitfire VB x 10
MiG-3 x 6

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 10 destroyed, 3 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
P-39D Airacobra: 1 destroyed
Buffalo/F2A: 1 damaged
Hurricane I: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
Spitfire VB: 2 damaged
MiG-3: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged

Note the presence of P-35s, Buffalos and P-39s, evidence that a lot of my airgroups are being downgraded as losses reduce the number of front-line airframes. Damian's in a much worse state than me though but it does show that my losses have hurt.

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Day Air attack on Calcutta [India] , at 29,23

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 62
Ki-264 Angel x 2

Allied aircraft
P-35A Hawk x 5
P-39D Airacobra x 13
P-40E Warhawk x 3
Buffalo/F2A x 12
Hurricane I x 18
Lancer x 9
Spitfire VB x 10
MiG-3 x 5

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 19 destroyed, 1 damaged
Ki-264 Angel: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-39D Airacobra: 1 damaged
P-40E Warhawk: 1 damaged
Buffalo/F2A: 1 destroyed
Hurricane I: 2 damaged

So, 29 Bettys downed today. That's an entire Daitai which won't be able to strike my shipping when they approach their targets. Excellent.

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Day Air attack on Koepang [Timor] , at 29,77

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zeke x 29
G3M2 Nell x 16
Ki-32 Mary x 25
Ki-48-I Lily x 56
Ki-48-II Lily x 17
Ki-21-II Sally x 44
Ki-46-II Dinah x 7

Allied aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-32 Mary: 1 damaged
Ki-48-II Lily: 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
P-39D Airacobra: 1 destroyed
P-40B Tomahawk: 8 destroyed
Do 24K-2: 1 destroyed
Kittyhawk I: 1 destroyed

Allied ground losses:
4 casualties reported

Airbase hits 10
Airbase supply hits 13
Runway hits 199

The base is closed so these are just damaged crates on the ground. AKs are nearby to pull these damaged planes out and ship them back to Darwin.

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Day Air attack on Manila/Cavite [PH] , at 43,52

Japanese aircraft
B4Y1 Jean x 40
Ki-27 Nate x 12
Ki-32 Mary x 25
Ki-48-I Lily x 49
Ki-48-II Lily x 10
Ki-15II Babs x 5
Ki-46-II Dinah x 5

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-27 Nate: 1 destroyed


Allied ground losses:
46 casualties reported
Guns lost 2
Vehicles lost 1

Airbase hits 4
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 37
Port hits 4

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Day Air attack on ROC 62nd Field Army , at 43,41

Japanese aircraft
D3A2 Val x 19

Japanese aircraft losses
D3A2 Val: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged

Allied ground losses:
12 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

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Day Air attack on ML/KNIL Pamekasan Base Force, at 23,66

Japanese aircraft
Ki-27 Nate x 8
Ki-21-II Sally x 16

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-II Sally: 2 damaged


Allied ground losses:
18 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

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Sub attack near Haiphong [Tonkin] at 37,38

Japanese Ships
AK Kano Maru, on fire, heavy damage

Allied Ships
SS KXVIII

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ASW attack near Palau [Nanyo] at 51,68

Japanese Ships
DD Numakaze
DD Yukaze
DD Okikaze

Allied Ships
SS KXVI, hits 3


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Ground combat at Skovorodino [SIB]

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 197014 troops, 2463 guns, 1237 vehicles, Assault Value = 4447

Defending force 104815 troops, 1619 guns, 108 vehicles, Assault Value = 3093

Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 5

Japanese max assault: 3772 - adjusted assault: 1800

Allied max defense: 3261 - adjusted defense: 28907

Japanese assault odds: 0 to 1 (fort level 5)

Japanese ground losses:
11131 casualties reported
Guns lost 142
Vehicles lost 40

Allied ground losses:
1965 casualties reported
Guns lost 53
Vehicles lost 4

Even with Level 0 forts he isn't going to take Skovorodino. This is just throwing away troops to little gain. Already he's lost almost as many troops in the past month as he lost in the first 5 months of the game.


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Ground combat at Manila/Cavite [PH]

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 78333 troops, 829 guns, 719 vehicles, Assault Value = 2106

Defending force 56926 troops, 1213 guns, 381 vehicles, Assault Value = 2177



Allied ground losses:
67 casualties reported
Guns lost 2


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Ground combat at Suva [FIJI]

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 15039 troops, 215 guns, 128 vehicles, Assault Value = 486

Defending force 4769 troops, 46 guns, 1 vehicles, Assault Value = 173



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Ground combat at Soerabaja [Java]

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 40778 troops, 779 guns, 655 vehicles, Assault Value = 983

Defending force 26193 troops, 176 guns, 36 vehicles, Assault Value = 412

Japanese max assault: 1548 - adjusted assault: 811

Allied max defense: 366 - adjusted defense: 1070

Japanese assault odds: 0 to 1 (fort level 4)

Japanese ground losses:
1930 casualties reported
Guns lost 32
Vehicles lost 5

Allied ground losses:
616 casualties reported
Guns lost 15
Vehicles lost 1


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Ground combat at Ye [Burma]

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 10011 troops, 149 guns, 110 vehicles, Assault Value = 310

Defending force 20178 troops, 302 guns, 28 vehicles, Assault Value = 283



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Ground combat at Canton [S China]

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 20575 troops, 238 guns, 78 vehicles, Assault Value = 771

Defending force 25571 troops, 254 guns, 1 vehicles, Assault Value = 1306



Allied ground losses:
21 casualties reported
Guns lost 1


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Ground combat at Moulmein [Burma]

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 9423 troops, 38 guns, 546 vehicles, Assault Value = 953

Defending force 17147 troops, 350 guns, 22 vehicles, Assault Value = 684



Allied ground losses:
6 casualties reported


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Ground combat at Ondorhaan [MON]

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 6026 troops, 115 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 264

Defending force 4505 troops, 23 guns, 44 vehicles, Assault Value = 117



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Ground combat at Taung Gyi [Burma]

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 9656 troops, 133 guns, 2 vehicles, Assault Value = 747

Defending force 16552 troops, 286 guns, 29 vehicles, Assault Value = 405



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Ground combat at 30,33

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 3752 troops, 31 guns, 302 vehicles, Assault Value = 566

Defending force 304 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1

Allied max assault: 348 - adjusted assault: 350

Japanese max defense: 0 - adjusted defense: 1

Allied assault odds: 350 to 1

Japanese ground losses:
24 casualties reported

Defeated Japanese Units Retreating!

Today my first Tank Brigade has reached Rangoon. Tomorrow it attacks and tries to take Rangoon on the march. If I do then it should let me begin bombing missions against Singapore the day after.

My BBs went into Port Blair but no enemy ships were there. I see enemy shipping in Ye so I'm allowing my BBs to continue to Ye. The idea will be to hit the enemy transports there and then pull back to Rangoon once I take that. Obviously though he could just pull out to sea and run away - which is fine as him running away will definitely save Ye from falling. In any case I hae a lot of torpedo bombers and Pe-2s at Ye so I'm hopefuly to get a few hits in even if he does try to run away.

The BBs will draw his Bettys like moths to a flame and I'm hopeful that by massing my CAP over Rangoon once I take it I can slaughter quite a few more Bettys and write down his naval torpedo bomber strength even more pror to the committment of my main force ( the USN fleet) in the Pacific. Could this cost me those 2 BBs and supporting ships? Yes, I expect it to but, as always, it is about the achieving something worth the cost and completing the breaking of his Betty force will definitely be worth this cost.

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RE: Defeating the Devil !!! ( aka Damian ) - 10/9/2008 3:06:41 PM   
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Aye re: the playing historically vs playing as given. Everyone draws the line differently. I, personally, want the most realistic game possible and would support any changes to the game to make it more realistic no matter which side that benefits BUT once I have the game in my hands I'm not the sort of person who wants to have to follow 101 self-imposed rules to keep things "historical". Also don't forget that just because they didn't do something a certain way in the past doesn't mean they COULDN'T have done it that way if their doctrine etc was different.

So, just because 4-engined bombers weren't used to attack ships at 3,000 feet doesn't mean they couldn't have done so. After all prior to the beginning of the war I don't remember Douhet or Mitchell or anyone else talking about mounting machineguns and cannons in the noses of twin-engined bombers and sending them down to 100 feet to strafe enemy shipping. And if no-one had come up with that idea during the war and someone wanted to do that in-game I just imagine that person being shouted down for ahistorical play.

So, if it was technically possible then I think it is well within bounds for a player to order it... OTOH I do think that a plane diving on a target from 30,000 feet would probably be more likely to generate a clean miss than a plane diving on a target from 12,000 feet due to errors in initial aim point etc and would support accounting for that in the to hit %s.


As to helping Damian... Oh I cut and paste my answer to you in my latest email to Damian. I have no problem with him hearing a counter to a particular weapons system. In fact I suggested to him that if he wanted a joint thread to discuss strategy and tactics etc I'd be happy to agree to that. Like I said, its all about being pushed to your own limits so you play well.

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RE: Defeating the Devil !!! ( aka Damian ) - 10/9/2008 3:29:08 PM   
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Status: online 		My comments to Damian have been to suggest he read your prior AARs, especially the one with this mod and you as the Allies. I'm trying to get him to understand the need to see how you view the battlefield. I've followed enough of your AARs to have a good idea on some things. It might help that I'm in mental health also. Got to get Damian to take more advanced classes of Psych Warfare. 

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RE: Defeating the Devil !!! ( aka Damian ) - 10/9/2008 3:50:50 PM   
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I'm not surprised that you've pitched in with that sort of advice. I support it and think you are right. I'd be happy to discuss that with him in a joint thread ( with you and tohers piping in with your two cents also ).

As far as seeing the battlefield.... You're right. I believe ( and I'm sure you would agree ) that any situation ( be it battlefield, conversation, relationship or whatever ) is really the gestalt of the objective reality of that situation ( and we can leave aside the fact that there is no such thing as truly objective reality as all reality is filtered through our senses and medicine can prove that none of us actually sense things exactly the same... e.g. If you have more red-sensitive cones in your eyes than green-sensitive cones then you will actually SEE the world differently than someone with a more equitable balance of colour-sensors in the eyes. Hence even a fully-sighted, 20/20 vision group will have subtle difference in what they actually see, nevermind what they interpret... but i digress. )  and our perception of that reality.

Right now I'm quite willing to bet that Damian is feeling a bit hopeless. Every time he tries to defend something I end up attacking it anyway, anytime he tries to attack he ends up losing planes. He's lost more planes in the past month than he did in the past 5 months, he has utterly lost the initiative, has almost lost all of Burma, is being pushed back a little in Vietnam and is about to get a major surprise in Korea. His pilot and plane pools must be almost zero ( particularly as I'm seeing a lot more Ki-32s being used in training runs where previously he was equipping training groups with G4Ms and Ki-21s etc ), his fleet is at sea off Marcus Island but has not proven equal to the task of bringing my own fleet into action and destroying it and he knows that right now I have 2 or 3 significant offensives being set into action ( he knows this because I have, truthfully, told him this ). This mindset which has been engendered ( intentionally ) by me means that he is, I am certain, passing up good opportunities for counter-attacks etc as he is beginning to expect failure. And once one expects failure one tends to achieve it.  Obviously I've been stoking that along by:
a) actually grinding his air force to pieces on the battlefield and
b) regaining the strategic initiative entirely from Damian and
c) striking a tone in my emails to him which is largely unruffled by my own losses and failures ( I lost about a hundred planes on the ground in Mandalay 2 days ago but I just told him that it was an error on my part due to rushing the turn ( true ) and that it wasn't a big deal since I had major reserves of all the plane types lost ( not true, I had to downgrade two RAF squadrons from Spits because I'd lost so many of them ). So, even when he achieves something I downplay it. Right now I think he is so dispirited that he takes that downplaying at face value ( and it is 90% true... but the 10% which isn't is fairly crucial to the psych warfare game ) rather than critically and independently appraising it and, perhaps, coming to different conclusions.

P.s. You can feel free to post that to his thread if you want --- although if he agrees to a joint thread to discuss these sorts of issues then that would be a better place to post this sort of stuff.

P.p.s. Out of interest ---- because I'm always interested in what theories of the mind people ( particularly other professionals ) draw up about me --- how DO you think I view the battlefield? Soviet doctrine, OODA cycle, pragmatic optimism, ruthless etc?

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RE: Defeating the Devil !!! ( aka Damian ) - 10/9/2008 6:28:34 PM   
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more than most you identify exactly what you are willing to expend to achieve the goal unfortunatley for those of us playing you the goal is almost always correct if not always obvious.


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RE: Defeating the Devil !!! ( aka Damian ) - 10/9/2008 8:23:53 PM   
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quote:

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zeke: 36 destroyed
G3M2 Nell: 2 destroyed
Ki-32 Mary: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
Ki-48-I Lily: 2 destroyed
Ki-48-II Lily: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
Ki-21-II Sally: 4 destroyed, 1 damaged

36 Zeroes and pilots killed. A total of 46 IJN and IJA planes and pilots killed overall over Koepang today.

Allied aircraft losses
P-39D Airacobra: 23 destroyed
P-40B Tomahawk: 45 destroyed
Kittyhawk I: 9 destroyed
T-IVa: 1 destroyed

9 first-line Allied fighters destroyed. In total 78 planes were destroyed but 69 were obsolescent.


Good analysis overall, but I wouldn't be quite so sanguine about the loss of the P-39's. The Angels have arrived, and that increases the value of the P-39 IMHO. Do you happen to remember about how many Allied pilots were rescued from the carnage?

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RE: Defeating the Devil !!! ( aka Damian ) - 10/9/2008 8:57:11 PM   
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No, I didn't bother much counting pilot survivors as how many survived was less important than that they gain experience so that those squadrons would be combat effective once rebuilt. Usually though I find that about 3/4 of the pilots shot down over one of my own bases survive to return to action the next day. The key point is that pilot experience has gone up from the low 50s to the low 60s.

As to the Angels... If he bases them within 24 hexes of my bases my B-17s will attrit them. if he bases them more than 24 hexes from my bases then his own Ops Losses will wear the Ki-264s down unless he makes more than 45 or 50 per month. Since I don't think he is going to be able to make more than 50 per month once my HI denial missions really get going ( over the next month they'll start ) I amn't very concerned about the Ki-264s. They are awesome planes but not if you don't have very many of them. E.g. I have 50 B-19s available ( which are just like Ki-264s ) but they have hardly been decisive.

Definitely the P-39s are useful but I, personally, think the I-16s are better bomber-killers than the P-39s. I think that big cannon on the P-39s is just a little too inaccurate to be highly effective.

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RE: Defeating the Devil !!! ( aka Damian ) - 10/9/2008 11:46:27 PM   
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RE: Defeating the Devil !!! ( aka Damian ) - 10/10/2008 2:13:12 AM   
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His shipping tried to stay out of range but was not entirely successful in doing so.

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Day Air attack on Sovetskaya Gavan , at 73,30

Japanese aircraft
A5M4 Claude x 25
D3A2 Val x 7
B5N2 Kate x 32
Ki-43-I Oscar x 22

Japanese aircraft losses
A5M4 Claude: 1 destroyed

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 15

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Day Air attack on Sovetskaya Gavan , at 73,30

Japanese aircraft
A5M4 Claude x 30
Ki-27 Nate x 22

Japanese aircraft losses
A5M4 Claude: 1 damaged

Runway hits 9

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Day Air attack on Changsha [S China] , at 45,37

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-II Sally x 9

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-II Sally: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged

Runway hits 4

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Day Air attack on Pucheng [Cent China] , at 49,40

Japanese aircraft
Ki-32 Mary x 3

No Japanese losses

Runway hits 1

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Day Air attack on Ye [Burma] , at 29,35

And now he tries to take on Ye again. Over 200 of his finest fly --- I interpret the surfeit of Bettys to mean that he is running low on army bombers in this theatre --- and run into a very heavy CAP.

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zeke x 111
G4M1 Betty x 72
Ki-21-II Sally x 26

Allied aircraft
Kittyhawk I x 32
Spitfire VB x 7
I-16 Type 24 x 55
LaGG-3 x 10
MiG-3 x 36

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zeke: 56 destroyed
G4M1 Betty: 9 destroyed, 8 damaged
Ki-21-II Sally: 3 destroyed, 3 damaged

Another 65 of his elite naval pilots go down in return for just 61 of my planes. Only 28 of mine can be considered front-line but as my reserves are getting low the loss of all those I-16s still hurts.

Allied aircraft losses
Kittyhawk I: 8 destroyed
Spitfire VB: 3 destroyed
I-16 Type 24: 25 destroyed, 3 damaged
LaGG-3: 8 destroyed
MiG-3: 17 destroyed, 2 damaged

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Day Air attack on Bangkok [Thailand] , at 29,39

The B-17 numbers are slowly increasing. In a short time I should be able to send more than 200 over per day as well as a full, balanced support group of B-25, A20s and B-26s.

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zeke x 6
Ki-44IIa Tojo x 1
Ki-109E Mike x 3

Allied aircraft
B-17D Fortress x 72
B-17E Fortress x 112

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zeke: 4 destroyed
Ki-44IIa Tojo: 1 destroyed
G4M1 Betty: 4 destroyed
L3Y1 Tina: 5 destroyed
Ki-57 Topsy: 6 destroyed
H6K2-L Mavis: 4 destroyed

Japanese ground losses:
108 casualties reported
Guns lost 6
Vehicles lost 1

Airbase hits 9
Airbase supply hits 5
Runway hits 81

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Day Air attack on Padang [Sumatra] , at 18,51

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zeke x 3
Ki-48-II Lily x 9

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-48-II Lily: 1 destroyed

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Day Air attack on Koepang [Timor] , at 29,77

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zeke x 41
G3M2 Nell x 19
Ki-32 Mary x 21
Ki-48-I Lily x 51
Ki-48-II Lily x 17
Ki-21-II Sally x 54
Ki-46-II Dinah x 5

Allied aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
G3M2 Nell: 1 damaged
Ki-48-I Lily: 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Sunderland III: 1 destroyed
P-39D Airacobra: 1 destroyed


Allied ground losses:
7 casualties reported
Vehicles lost 1

Airbase hits 10
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 115

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Day Air attack on RTA 4th Division, at 35,30

Allied aircraft
SB-2M x 66


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
37 casualties reported

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Day Air attack on ROC 92nd Field Army , at 50,32

Japanese aircraft
Ki-27 Nate x 9

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
4 casualties reported

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Day Air attack on TF, near Victoria Point [BMA] at 25,39

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zeke x 5

Allied aircraft
Pe-2 x 21

No Japanese losses

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
DD Shirayuki, Bomb hits 4, on fire, heavy damage

Ouch!!! Bye bye Shirayuki.

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Day Air attack on TF at 27,37

Some enemy ships didn't quite run far enough fast enough.


Allied aircraft
Swordfish I x 5
Vildebeest IV x 14
Pe-2 x 75
TBM-1 Avenger x 8


No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
AP Atuta Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
AP Higashiyama Maru, Bomb hits 10, on fire, heavy damage
AP Kirishima Maru, Bomb hits 9, on fire, heavy damage
AP Atsuta Maru, Bomb hits 2, on fire
AP Enju Maru, Bomb hits 9, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

3 definite gonners and, most importantly, a point made.

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Day Air attack on TF, near Ye [Burma] at 29,35

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 20

Allied aircraft
Kittyhawk I x 24
Spitfire VB x 4
I-16 Type 24 x 30
LaGG-3 x 2
MiG-3 x 19

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 9 destroyed, 2 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Kittyhawk I: 5 damaged
I-16 Type 24: 2 destroyed, 3 damaged
MiG-3: 2 damaged

Allied Ships
AK Empire Gilbert, heavy damage

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Day Air attack on TF, near Ye [Burma] at 29,35

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-II Sally x 16

Allied aircraft
Kittyhawk I x 24
Spitfire VB x 4
I-16 Type 24 x 28
LaGG-3 x 2
MiG-3 x 19

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-II Sally: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
I-16 Type 24: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged

The Sallies turn back after only 2 firing passes. Their morale must be rock bottom.

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Day Air attack on TF, near Ye [Burma] at 29,35

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zeke x 23
G4M1 Betty x 12
Ki-44IIa Tojo x 8

Allied aircraft
Kittyhawk I x 24
Spitfire VB x 4
I-16 Type 24 x 27
LaGG-3 x 2
MiG-3 x 19

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zeke: 11 destroyed
G4M1 Betty: 1 destroyed
Ki-44IIa Tojo: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Kittyhawk I: 9 destroyed
I-16 Type 24: 9 destroyed
LaGG-3: 1 destroyed
MiG-3: 8 destroyed

These Zeroes did very well. In total the 23 Zeroes and 8 Tojos downed 27 of my fighters.

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Day Air attack on TF, near Ye [Burma] at 29,35

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 9
Ki-21-II Sally x 8

Allied aircraft
Kittyhawk I x 16
Spitfire VB x 5
I-16 Type 24 x 23
LaGG-3 x 3
MiG-3 x 10

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 3 destroyed, 1 damaged
Ki-21-II Sally: 1 damaged

Again, the bombers were stopped short of their target.

Allied aircraft losses
Spitfire VB: 1 damaged
I-16 Type 24: 1 damaged
MiG-3: 1 damaged

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Day Air attack on TF, near Ye [Burma] at 29,35

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zeke x 19
G4M1 Betty x 3
Ki-44IIa Tojo x 4

Allied aircraft
Kittyhawk I x 16
Spitfire VB x 5
I-16 Type 24 x 23
LaGG-3 x 3
MiG-3 x 10

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zeke: 10 destroyed
G4M1 Betty: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Kittyhawk I: 3 destroyed
Spitfire VB: 1 destroyed
I-16 Type 24: 3 destroyed
MiG-3: 1 destroyed

Allied Ships
BB Royal Sovereign

2 Bettys survived to make torpedo runs but none hit. Today saw the destruction of over 90 Zeroes and 27 Bettys. OUCH!!! Those Zero and Betty losses are going to be crippling once the next phase of operations truly gets under way. Why he is allowing me to run his torpedo bomber numbers down so much when he could be using IJA bombers instead is beyond me.

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Ground combat at Skovorodino [SIB]

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 180696 troops, 2104 guns, 1196 vehicles, Assault Value = 3747

Defending force 101514 troops, 1508 guns, 103 vehicles, Assault Value = 3003



Allied ground losses:
68 casualties reported
Guns lost 1


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Ground combat at Manila/Cavite [PH]

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 79354 troops, 846 guns, 719 vehicles, Assault Value = 2164

Defending force 57164 troops, 1225 guns, 384 vehicles, Assault Value = 2181



Allied ground losses:
42 casualties reported
Guns lost 5


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Ground combat at Suva [FIJI]

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 15103 troops, 219 guns, 128 vehicles, Assault Value = 487

Defending force 4767 troops, 47 guns, 1 vehicles, Assault Value = 173



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Ground combat at Soerabaja [Java]

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 35977 troops, 696 guns, 619 vehicles, Assault Value = 879

Defending force 25588 troops, 164 guns, 34 vehicles, Assault Value = 393



Allied ground losses:
73 casualties reported


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Ground combat at Ye [Burma]

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 10101 troops, 150 guns, 110 vehicles, Assault Value = 313

Defending force 20244 troops, 304 guns, 29 vehicles, Assault Value = 283



Allied ground losses:
10 casualties reported


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Ground combat at Canton [S China]

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 20887 troops, 241 guns, 87 vehicles, Assault Value = 786

Defending force 25605 troops, 256 guns, 1 vehicles, Assault Value = 1308



Allied ground losses:
6 casualties reported


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Ground combat at Moulmein [Burma]

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 9439 troops, 37 guns, 548 vehicles, Assault Value = 958

Defending force 17232 troops, 353 guns, 23 vehicles, Assault Value = 687



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Ground combat at Ondorhaan [MON]

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 6025 troops, 114 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 265

Defending force 4455 troops, 22 guns, 43 vehicles, Assault Value = 116



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Ground combat at 35,40

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 28629 troops, 408 guns, 3 vehicles, Assault Value = 1927

Defending force 11896 troops, 177 guns, 139 vehicles, Assault Value = 359

Allied max assault: 2902 - adjusted assault: 1550

Japanese max defense: 344 - adjusted defense: 927

Allied assault odds: 1 to 1

Japanese ground losses:
232 casualties reported
Guns lost 6

Allied ground losses:
1295 casualties reported
Guns lost 40
Vehicles lost 1

I'm getting close to a 2:1 ratio here and have another couple of armies whose HQs I've changed heading down to help out. Hopefully they'll be enough. Once I can force a single retreat I'll be able to push this enemy division all the way south through Hue to Camranh Bay.... which ought to really antagonise Damian. The need to leave an entire Field Army to garrison each captured base is draining my front-line forces but I've liberated another 6 Field Armies from deep inside China and they are currently on their way.

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Ground combat at Taung Gyi [Burma]

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 9675 troops, 134 guns, 2 vehicles, Assault Value = 746

Defending force 14992 troops, 271 guns, 30 vehicles, Assault Value = 340



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Ground combat at Rangoon [Burma]

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 3752 troops, 31 guns, 302 vehicles, Assault Value = 186

Defending force 7819 troops, 50 guns, 32 vehicles, Assault Value = 56

Allied max assault: 352 - adjusted assault: 18

Japanese max defense: 64 - adjusted defense: 449

Allied assault odds: 0 to 1 (fort level 0)


Japanese ground losses:
9 casualties reported

Allied ground losses:
348 casualties reported
Guns lost 11
Vehicles lost 12

Oops, definitely need more troops here. Fortunately another 600 AV are just a day or two away so I'll wait for them and then push on through.

My Pacific fleet is almost completely gathered now at a desolate sea hex some 1200 miles from their targets ( I am planning to invade multiple bases at the same time ) and my Australian forces are all at sea and steaming hard but they are a long way from where I want to use them.


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RE: Defeating the Devil !!! ( aka Damian ) - 10/10/2008 3:31:50 AM   
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I see that you both have different views of the battlefield, which in this case is the whole map. You look at it from a strategic point of view and then devise tactical strategies to accomplish those strategic goals. Damian looks at the map more from a tactical level. He is looking to put out the fires without focusing on the source of the fuel for those fires.

I was in the Navy from 77 to 84 and thus studied some of the Soviet doctrine in passing and then later did some on board games. Damian, does not understand the willingness to have higher than normal losses to achieve goals. This is a "western" philosophy of warfare - minimize casualties. In hypothetical battles in Germany, NATO could not stop the Soviets straight on, but rather interdict their supply lines and gain local superiority. I suggested to Damian that he look for what he doesn't see just as much at what he sees. An example would have been, why is it so quite around Australia?? That should have raised his suspicions somewhat.

He has played only Japan in PBEMs and that hurts his perspective of what the Allies are fully capable of.

As to the use of Nell/Betty. He used those almost exclusively in our game and the Army LB were used very little (besides the Sally) in the front lines.

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