Hello, I just wanted to post that I totally agree with Mr Roadrunner on this issue and have seen similar ridiculous assault outcomes, this (and other things brought up on the blitz message boards previously)has ruined the game for me too (variable visibility? over 6 minutes? Bridge building, mine laying? in 6 minutes? do me a favour)... it has also split the CS community as to which patch to use, whether to go back to the old version, wait for a patch, patch gets taken down - new patch arrives, game changes.. etcetera etcetera...
I don't want to get into specifics in this post, it seems the changes are welcomed by the majority so that's fine, I also agree that making things optional isn't really a way forward as some may struggle to find opponents who wish to play by the same rules....
Personally, I have already cancelled all my PBEM games as they are ruined, I will check back in a couple of months to see how it all ends up and decide if I want to come back to it.
I have no animosity at all toward Matrix games, it's not their fault that I don't like the new game.
Paul... aka Stryker@theblitz
Don't you honestly think the old assault rules were ridiculous as well, eventhough you were accustomed to them: Like 2 StuGs capturing a 6sp infantry (or more) unit in a city?
It's a bit over the top to say that now suddenly all ongoing games are ruined, isn't it. That may be true for one or two games but certainly not for all. My expericience was that my ongoing games were actually improved.
Better that kind of ridiculousness than the wagon unit, in a woods, that held off three Soviet ski platoons?
Realism? We were told realism was the reason that the new assault rules were given to us?
I've got to go back to reading my WWII history? I want to see how they made those donkey's and crews fight so well.
I know I've read of armor blasting away as it quickly drove into villages and caused the demoralized troops to surrender.
I've never read where a wagon train stopped armed troops from attack it. Maybe in the American West, but, not in WWII, on the Russian front.
And, yes that is one of the outcomes today in a game I am playing. It totally ruins the play even though some cannot figure out why PBEM players are stopping their games until a fix is given.
Hell, we cannot delete our games and then patch up to version 1.02B because they are not available.
Those of us that got stuck on the "1.03 improves the game" and we downloaded the official patch with joy, should have been told that the new assault rules do not improve the game, they changed it? And, there is no more access to 1.02 or 1.02b unless some individual saved it and you can get it from them?
Herr Huib, I know you have not experienced what I have in the past couple days. But, I have and it is leaving a very bad taste in my mouth.
I'm sick of being told, "oh it's great, if you don't like it go back to the original". And, I am very sick of being told, "you'll just hate the new assault rules but you'll have to get used to them."
And, my friend, I am not angry with you.
I'm mad as hell against those who forced this on us. In your and my example's above they swung the pendullum from one side to the other, and there is no middle ground.
Some may say the old assault rules were unrealistic and really stunk. Some now may say that the new assault rules are unrealistic and really stink.
What did we get in the end? A game that stinks because we cannot play the old way we were used to?
That is the clear reality of it.
Trading realism for fun has just ruined the game that most of us have loved and supported for so long in it's original form. And, to top it all off we got a game that was changed and just as unrealistic?
I'm for the old CS game. I am not for the new game that I just downloaded.
I hope that the boys are willing to get back and look at what they did and find a middle ground answer to the assault dilema.
I can see being happy with something in the middle, but not the stuff we got. If they cannot find middle ground then I need my old assualt rules back.
< Message edited by MrRoadrunner -- 7/13/2008 8:39:19 PM >
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