Well this is my first AAR and actually my first full game PBEM game. Some specifics as to the scenario: AB extended map using Big Bob mod 1.4 Scenario 92 (I think)
House rules:
1)Use common sense(the most important one)
2)Train pilots by attacking real targets...no attacking abandoned bases or supply training
3)Use PPs on Kwangtung/China Command unts that are moved out of Manchuria/China
4)LCU stacking: 30,000 defenders on an atoll and 75,000 max on one hex island
5)No invasions by subs
6)ASW TF max of 6 ships
7)AC stacking: 50x base size +1 (a level 1 base can have 100 ac, level 2 150, etc)
8)AC that transfer greater than 9 hexes must rest one turn before conducting any air operations
9)No naval bombing with B-29s
10) 4E city bombing attacks above 15,000 feet during the day
11)Invasions and paratroop landings only at base/dot hexes
12)No cutting(resetting) land movement of land stacks with small units or fragments of units
13) No city bombing attacks from or against Chinese bases
14) Naval bombardments of hexes in support of troops already present or within 14 days of a planned invasion.
But to allow some more realism I propose the following also. These are to put some historical political context into the game
14. Dutch units may not be moved out of the DEI - not even fragments (They would not have left - period)
15. Phillipine units may not be moved out of the Phillipines (as above)
16. Only Chinese units already assigned to SEAC may operate outside China (politics of china were complex)
17. If the Japanese player invades India, Australia, or NZ, he must have a LCU in every base he conquers at all times. This is a simplified garrison rule. Seen too many AAR's where the Japanese have the Allies pinned in Karchi with the whole of India devod of LCU's. No splitting of units to create a dozen small fragments to accomplish this either
18. Canadian units may only operate in Canada, Alaska, and the Aleutians unless the Japanese invade Australia/NZ. Then Canadian units can be transferred to Australia Command/ANZAC by playing the PP (This gives the Allied player some recourse against a complete takeover of Oz/Kiwiland)
Vettim89 vs Greasylake - Reversal of Fortunes
Moderators: wdolson, Don Bowen, mogami
Vettim89 vs Greasylake - Reversal of Fortunes
"We have met the enemy and they are ours" - Commodore O.H. Perry
RE: Vettim89 vs Greasylake - no oily bodies of water allowed
Decided to do this a little late so I don't have the first turn Combat Report available. We went with historical first turn. So we had the PH attack, invasions in Malaya, Guam, and Wake, lots of destruction of allied AC, etc
A couple of oddities that have thrown both my opponent and I a little bit of a curve. First, Wake Island fell on the first attempt. My opponent remarked that he has never had this happen on the first turn. The second is what could be considered an absolute failure of the PH attack. No ships sunk and only 5 with over 50% systems damage. KB is still lurking off the coast so Greasylake may have no choice but to go for a second day worth of attacks.
As to my short term strategic goals: pull back in Malaya and Burma to delay the inevitable as long as possible, build up the DEI forts as much as possible - not moveing a lot of units here, establish a line from Pogog Pogo to Suva to Noumea as my first line of defense in the SP.
A couple of oddities that have thrown both my opponent and I a little bit of a curve. First, Wake Island fell on the first attempt. My opponent remarked that he has never had this happen on the first turn. The second is what could be considered an absolute failure of the PH attack. No ships sunk and only 5 with over 50% systems damage. KB is still lurking off the coast so Greasylake may have no choice but to go for a second day worth of attacks.
As to my short term strategic goals: pull back in Malaya and Burma to delay the inevitable as long as possible, build up the DEI forts as much as possible - not moveing a lot of units here, establish a line from Pogog Pogo to Suva to Noumea as my first line of defense in the SP.
"We have met the enemy and they are ours" - Commodore O.H. Perry
RE: Vettim89 vs Greasylake - no oily bodies of water allowed
Well this is my first AAR and actually my first full game PBEM game.
Good luck vettim89!
RE: Vettim89 vs Greasylake - no oily bodies of water allowed
Well day 2 didn't go quite as well. I lost Tennesee and 2 other BB's have over 90 system damage. Nothing with over 30 floatation though. Only good new to report is that aircraft losses for today include 14 Vals and 15 Kates. The Attrition begins
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 12/08/41
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TF 20 troops unloading over beach at Guam, 63,66
Japanese ground losses:
31 casualties reported
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Coastal Guns at Kota Bharu, 24,45, firing at TF 85
TF 85 troops unloading over beach at Kota Bharu, 24,45
76 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Japanese Ships
PG Tatsumiya Maru
PC Ch 7
Japanese ground losses:
488 casualties reported
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TF 87 troops unloading over beach at Aparri, 45,49
Japanese ground losses:
220 casualties reported
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TF 88 troops unloading over beach at Vigan, 44,49
Japanese ground losses:
204 casualties reported
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Night Time Surface Combat, near Legaspi at 45,54
Japanese Ships
CL Nagara
DD Yukikaze
DD Tokitsukaze
DD Yamakaze
DD Kawakaze
DD Umikaze
DD Suzukaze
DD Shiokaze
Allied Ships
TK Manatawny, Shell hits 29, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
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Night Time Surface Combat, near Legaspi at 45,54
Japanese Ships
CL Nagara
DD Yukikaze
DD Tokitsukaze
DD Yamakaze
DD Kawakaze
DD Umikaze
DD Suzukaze
DD Shiokaze
Allied Ships
AK Dos Hermanos, Shell hits 7, on fire
AK Elcano, Shell hits 9, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk
AK Escalante R, Shell hits 2, on fire
AK Governor Wright, Shell hits 6, Torpedo hits 6, and is sunk
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Naval bombardment of Guam, at 63,66
Japanese Ships
DD Yuzuki
DD Kikuzuki
DD Uzuki
DD Oboro
CA Kako
CA Furutaka
CA Kinugasa
CA Aoba
Allied ground losses:
348 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
Vehicles lost 1
Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 4
Port hits 1
Port fuel hits 3
Port supply hits 4
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Naval bombardment of Vigan, at 44,49
Japanese Ships
DD Samidare
DD Yudachi
DD Harusame
DD Murasame
DD Asagumo
DD Minegumo
DD Natsugumo
CL Naka
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 10
Port hits 2
Port fuel hits 1
Port supply hits 6
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Naval bombardment of Legaspi, at 45,54
Japanese Ships
DD Shiokaze
DD Suzukaze
DD Umikaze
DD Kawakaze
DD Yamakaze
DD Tokitsukaze
DD Yukikaze
CL Nagara
Airbase hits 3
Runway hits 6
Port hits 5
Port fuel hits 2
Port supply hits 5
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Naval bombardment of Aparri, at 45,49
Japanese Ships
DD Hatakaze
DD Harukaze
DD Nagatsuki
DD Fumizuki
DD Minazuki
DD Satsuki
CL Natori
Airbase hits 2
Runway hits 8
Port hits 1
Port fuel hits 1
Port supply hits 6
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Naval bombardment of Aparri, at 45,49
Japanese Ships
DD Matsukaze
DD Asakaze
CL Kuma
CA Ashigara
CA Maya
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 4
Port supply hits 3
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TF 20 troops unloading over beach at Guam, 63,66
Japanese ground losses:
11 casualties reported
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Coastal Guns at Kota Bharu, 24,45, firing at TF 85
TF 85 troops unloading over beach at Kota Bharu, 24,45
14 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Japanese ground losses:
109 casualties reported
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TF 87 troops unloading over beach at Aparri, 45,49
Japanese ground losses:
171 casualties reported
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TF 88 troops unloading over beach at Vigan, 44,49
Japanese ground losses:
89 casualties reported
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Day Air attack on Singapore , at 22,51
Japanese aircraft
G3M Nell x 75
Allied aircraft
Buffalo I x 33
Japanese aircraft losses
G3M Nell: 15 destroyed, 21 damaged
Allied aircraft losses
Buffalo I: 2 damaged
Vildebeest IV: 2 destroyed
Blenheim IV: 1 destroyed
Allied ground losses:
13 casualties reported
Airbase hits 2
Runway hits 7
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Day Air attack on Clark Field , at 43,51
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 75
G3M Nell x 35
G4M1 Betty x 52
C5M Babs x 9
Ki-46-II Dinah x 2
Ki-15 Babs x 15
Allied aircraft
P-26A x 2
P-35A x 2
P-40E Warhawk x 2
P-40B Tomahawk x 1
Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 1 damaged
Allied aircraft losses
P-26A: 3 destroyed
P-35A: 1 destroyed
P-40E Warhawk: 1 destroyed
P-40B Tomahawk: 1 destroyed
B-17D Fortress: 1 destroyed
Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 9
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Day Air attack on Alor Star , at 24,44
Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 10
Ki-21 Sally x 11
Ki-48 Lily x 44
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-48 Lily: 3 damaged
Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 2
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Day Air attack on Alor Star , at 24,44
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 18
Ki-21 Sally x 27
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21 Sally: 2 damaged
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Day Air attack on Pearl Harbor , at 114,72
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 61
D3A Val x 31
B5N Kate x 57
Allied aircraft
P-36A Mohawk x 2
P-40E Warhawk x 4
P-40B Tomahawk x 6
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 4 destroyed
D3A Val: 1 destroyed, 25 damaged
B5N Kate: 10 destroyed, 31 damaged
Allied aircraft losses
P-36A Mohawk: 2 destroyed
P-40E Warhawk: 1 destroyed
P-40B Tomahawk: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged
Allied Ships
BB Tennessee, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
BB California, Bomb hits 3, Torpedo hits 2, on fire
BB Maryland, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
DD Litchfield, Bomb hits 1, on fire
BB Pennsylvania, Bomb hits 3, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
DD Conyngham, Bomb hits 1, on fire
CA Minneapolis, Bomb hits 1, on fire
BB West Virginia, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
BB Oklahoma, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 1, heavy damage
CL Helena, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
BB Arizona, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
CL Detroit, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
Allied ground losses:
13 casualties reported
Port hits 7
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Day Air attack on TF, near Aparri at 45,49
Japanese aircraft
F1M2 Pete x 4
Allied aircraft
B-17D Fortress x 3
No Japanese losses
No Allied losses
Japanese Ships
DD Nagatsuki
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Day Air attack on TF, near Aparri at 45,49
Japanese aircraft
F1M2 Pete x 4
Allied aircraft
B-17D Fortress x 3
No Japanese losses
No Allied losses
Japanese Ships
AP Arizona Maru
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Naval bombardment of Guam, at 63,66
Japanese Ships
DD Yuzuki
DD Kikuzuki
DD Uzuki
DD Oboro
CA Kako
CA Furutaka
CA Kinugasa
CA Aoba
Allied ground losses:
99 casualties reported
Airbase hits 4
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 15
Port hits 1
Port supply hits 4
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Naval bombardment of Vigan, at 44,49
Japanese Ships
DD Samidare
DD Yudachi
DD Harusame
DD Murasame
DD Asagumo
DD Minegumo
DD Natsugumo
CL Naka
Airbase hits 3
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 7
Port hits 1
Port fuel hits 1
Port supply hits 4
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Naval bombardment of Legaspi, at 45,54
Japanese Ships
DD Shiokaze
DD Suzukaze
DD Umikaze
DD Kawakaze
DD Yamakaze
DD Tokitsukaze
DD Yukikaze
CL Nagara
Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 4
Port hits 2
Port fuel hits 6
Port supply hits 2
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Naval bombardment of Aparri, at 45,49
Japanese Ships
DD Hatakaze
DD Harukaze
DD Nagatsuki
DD Fumizuki
DD Minazuki
DD Satsuki
CL Natori
Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 4
Port hits 1
Port supply hits 2
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Naval bombardment of Aparri, at 45,49
Japanese Ships
DD Matsukaze
DD Asakaze
CL Kuma
CA Ashigara
CA Maya
Airbase hits 2
Runway hits 2
Port hits 2
Port supply hits 5
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Ground combat at Legaspi
Japanese Deliberate attack
Attacking force 2540 troops, 15 guns, 0 vehicles
Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles
Japanese assault odds: 40 to 1 (fort level 1)
Japanese forces CAPTURE Legaspi base !!!
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Ground combat at Hong Kong
Japanese Deliberate attack
Attacking force 22536 troops, 253 guns, 17 vehicles
Defending force 11822 troops, 105 guns, 3 vehicles
Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 6
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 12/08/41
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TF 20 troops unloading over beach at Guam, 63,66
Japanese ground losses:
31 casualties reported
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Coastal Guns at Kota Bharu, 24,45, firing at TF 85
TF 85 troops unloading over beach at Kota Bharu, 24,45
76 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Japanese Ships
PG Tatsumiya Maru
PC Ch 7
Japanese ground losses:
488 casualties reported
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TF 87 troops unloading over beach at Aparri, 45,49
Japanese ground losses:
220 casualties reported
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TF 88 troops unloading over beach at Vigan, 44,49
Japanese ground losses:
204 casualties reported
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Night Time Surface Combat, near Legaspi at 45,54
Japanese Ships
CL Nagara
DD Yukikaze
DD Tokitsukaze
DD Yamakaze
DD Kawakaze
DD Umikaze
DD Suzukaze
DD Shiokaze
Allied Ships
TK Manatawny, Shell hits 29, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
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Night Time Surface Combat, near Legaspi at 45,54
Japanese Ships
CL Nagara
DD Yukikaze
DD Tokitsukaze
DD Yamakaze
DD Kawakaze
DD Umikaze
DD Suzukaze
DD Shiokaze
Allied Ships
AK Dos Hermanos, Shell hits 7, on fire
AK Elcano, Shell hits 9, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk
AK Escalante R, Shell hits 2, on fire
AK Governor Wright, Shell hits 6, Torpedo hits 6, and is sunk
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Naval bombardment of Guam, at 63,66
Japanese Ships
DD Yuzuki
DD Kikuzuki
DD Uzuki
DD Oboro
CA Kako
CA Furutaka
CA Kinugasa
CA Aoba
Allied ground losses:
348 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
Vehicles lost 1
Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 4
Port hits 1
Port fuel hits 3
Port supply hits 4
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Naval bombardment of Vigan, at 44,49
Japanese Ships
DD Samidare
DD Yudachi
DD Harusame
DD Murasame
DD Asagumo
DD Minegumo
DD Natsugumo
CL Naka
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 10
Port hits 2
Port fuel hits 1
Port supply hits 6
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Naval bombardment of Legaspi, at 45,54
Japanese Ships
DD Shiokaze
DD Suzukaze
DD Umikaze
DD Kawakaze
DD Yamakaze
DD Tokitsukaze
DD Yukikaze
CL Nagara
Airbase hits 3
Runway hits 6
Port hits 5
Port fuel hits 2
Port supply hits 5
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Naval bombardment of Aparri, at 45,49
Japanese Ships
DD Hatakaze
DD Harukaze
DD Nagatsuki
DD Fumizuki
DD Minazuki
DD Satsuki
CL Natori
Airbase hits 2
Runway hits 8
Port hits 1
Port fuel hits 1
Port supply hits 6
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Naval bombardment of Aparri, at 45,49
Japanese Ships
DD Matsukaze
DD Asakaze
CL Kuma
CA Ashigara
CA Maya
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 4
Port supply hits 3
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TF 20 troops unloading over beach at Guam, 63,66
Japanese ground losses:
11 casualties reported
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Coastal Guns at Kota Bharu, 24,45, firing at TF 85
TF 85 troops unloading over beach at Kota Bharu, 24,45
14 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Japanese ground losses:
109 casualties reported
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TF 87 troops unloading over beach at Aparri, 45,49
Japanese ground losses:
171 casualties reported
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TF 88 troops unloading over beach at Vigan, 44,49
Japanese ground losses:
89 casualties reported
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Day Air attack on Singapore , at 22,51
Japanese aircraft
G3M Nell x 75
Allied aircraft
Buffalo I x 33
Japanese aircraft losses
G3M Nell: 15 destroyed, 21 damaged
Allied aircraft losses
Buffalo I: 2 damaged
Vildebeest IV: 2 destroyed
Blenheim IV: 1 destroyed
Allied ground losses:
13 casualties reported
Airbase hits 2
Runway hits 7
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Day Air attack on Clark Field , at 43,51
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 75
G3M Nell x 35
G4M1 Betty x 52
C5M Babs x 9
Ki-46-II Dinah x 2
Ki-15 Babs x 15
Allied aircraft
P-26A x 2
P-35A x 2
P-40E Warhawk x 2
P-40B Tomahawk x 1
Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 1 damaged
Allied aircraft losses
P-26A: 3 destroyed
P-35A: 1 destroyed
P-40E Warhawk: 1 destroyed
P-40B Tomahawk: 1 destroyed
B-17D Fortress: 1 destroyed
Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 9
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Day Air attack on Alor Star , at 24,44
Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 10
Ki-21 Sally x 11
Ki-48 Lily x 44
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-48 Lily: 3 damaged
Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 2
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Day Air attack on Alor Star , at 24,44
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 18
Ki-21 Sally x 27
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21 Sally: 2 damaged
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Day Air attack on Pearl Harbor , at 114,72
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 61
D3A Val x 31
B5N Kate x 57
Allied aircraft
P-36A Mohawk x 2
P-40E Warhawk x 4
P-40B Tomahawk x 6
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 4 destroyed
D3A Val: 1 destroyed, 25 damaged
B5N Kate: 10 destroyed, 31 damaged
Allied aircraft losses
P-36A Mohawk: 2 destroyed
P-40E Warhawk: 1 destroyed
P-40B Tomahawk: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged
Allied Ships
BB Tennessee, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
BB California, Bomb hits 3, Torpedo hits 2, on fire
BB Maryland, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
DD Litchfield, Bomb hits 1, on fire
BB Pennsylvania, Bomb hits 3, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
DD Conyngham, Bomb hits 1, on fire
CA Minneapolis, Bomb hits 1, on fire
BB West Virginia, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
BB Oklahoma, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 1, heavy damage
CL Helena, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
BB Arizona, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
CL Detroit, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
Allied ground losses:
13 casualties reported
Port hits 7
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Day Air attack on TF, near Aparri at 45,49
Japanese aircraft
F1M2 Pete x 4
Allied aircraft
B-17D Fortress x 3
No Japanese losses
No Allied losses
Japanese Ships
DD Nagatsuki
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Day Air attack on TF, near Aparri at 45,49
Japanese aircraft
F1M2 Pete x 4
Allied aircraft
B-17D Fortress x 3
No Japanese losses
No Allied losses
Japanese Ships
AP Arizona Maru
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Naval bombardment of Guam, at 63,66
Japanese Ships
DD Yuzuki
DD Kikuzuki
DD Uzuki
DD Oboro
CA Kako
CA Furutaka
CA Kinugasa
CA Aoba
Allied ground losses:
99 casualties reported
Airbase hits 4
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 15
Port hits 1
Port supply hits 4
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Naval bombardment of Vigan, at 44,49
Japanese Ships
DD Samidare
DD Yudachi
DD Harusame
DD Murasame
DD Asagumo
DD Minegumo
DD Natsugumo
CL Naka
Airbase hits 3
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 7
Port hits 1
Port fuel hits 1
Port supply hits 4
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Naval bombardment of Legaspi, at 45,54
Japanese Ships
DD Shiokaze
DD Suzukaze
DD Umikaze
DD Kawakaze
DD Yamakaze
DD Tokitsukaze
DD Yukikaze
CL Nagara
Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 4
Port hits 2
Port fuel hits 6
Port supply hits 2
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Naval bombardment of Aparri, at 45,49
Japanese Ships
DD Hatakaze
DD Harukaze
DD Nagatsuki
DD Fumizuki
DD Minazuki
DD Satsuki
CL Natori
Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 4
Port hits 1
Port supply hits 2
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Naval bombardment of Aparri, at 45,49
Japanese Ships
DD Matsukaze
DD Asakaze
CL Kuma
CA Ashigara
CA Maya
Airbase hits 2
Runway hits 2
Port hits 2
Port supply hits 5
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Ground combat at Legaspi
Japanese Deliberate attack
Attacking force 2540 troops, 15 guns, 0 vehicles
Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles
Japanese assault odds: 40 to 1 (fort level 1)
Japanese forces CAPTURE Legaspi base !!!
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Ground combat at Hong Kong
Japanese Deliberate attack
Attacking force 22536 troops, 253 guns, 17 vehicles
Defending force 11822 troops, 105 guns, 3 vehicles
Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 6
"We have met the enemy and they are ours" - Commodore O.H. Perry
RE: Vettim89 vs Greasylake - no oily bodies of water allowed
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 12/10/41
Well, there isn't one. I am playing several games right now and ran a turn on another game before copying the combat report.
Recap of 12/09 - 12/10:
Opponent takes Makin
Opponent continues invading northern Luzon
KB Withdraws to the west
Opponent takes Guam
Force Z engages IJN off Malaya. Repulse is badly damaged but afloat. FOW reports her sunk but she is now. All but one of the DD's is sunk
Well, there isn't one. I am playing several games right now and ran a turn on another game before copying the combat report.
Recap of 12/09 - 12/10:
Opponent takes Makin
Opponent continues invading northern Luzon
KB Withdraws to the west
Opponent takes Guam
Force Z engages IJN off Malaya. Repulse is badly damaged but afloat. FOW reports her sunk but she is now. All but one of the DD's is sunk
"We have met the enemy and they are ours" - Commodore O.H. Perry
RE: Vettim89 vs Greasylake - no oily bodies of water allowed
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 12/11/41
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Night Time Surface Combat at 41,54
Japanese Ships
DD Yamagumo
DD Ikazuchi
DD Inazuma
DD Chidori
DD Manazuru
DD Tomozuru
Allied Ships
AO Pecos, Shell hits 20, on fire, heavy damage
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Day Air attack on CCP New 4th Army, at 47,41
Japanese aircraft
Ki-27 Nate x 8
Ki-21 Sally x 13
No Japanese losses
Allied ground losses:
45 casualties reported
Aircraft Attacking:
13 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 11000 feet
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Day Air attack on Alor Star , at 24,44
Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 43
Ki-21 Sally x 27
Ki-48 Lily x 22
Ki-46-II Dinah x 1
Ki-15 Babs x 3
Allied aircraft
no flights
No Japanese losses
Allied aircraft losses
Blenheim I: 1 destroyed
Airbase hits 5
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 9
Aircraft Attacking:
19 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 15000 feet
27 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 15000 feet
3 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 15000 feet
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Day Air attack on Alor Star , at 24,44
Japanese aircraft
Ki-21 Sally x 26
Ki-46-II Dinah x 3
Ki-15 Babs x 3
Allied aircraft
no flights
No Japanese losses
Allied aircraft losses
No Allied losses
Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 10
Aircraft Attacking:
19 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 13000 feet
7 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 13000 feet
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Day Air attack on Singapore , at 22,51
Japanese aircraft
G3M Nell x 35
Allied aircraft
Buffalo I x 14
Japanese aircraft losses
G3M Nell: 1 destroyed, 6 damaged
Allied aircraft losses
Buffalo I: 1 destroyed, 3 damaged
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 3
Aircraft Attacking:
4 x G3M Nell bombing at 15000 feet
12 x G3M Nell bombing at 15000 feet
3 x G3M Nell bombing at 15000 feet
3 x G3M Nell bombing at 15000 feet
7 x G3M Nell bombing at 15000 feet
3 x G3M Nell bombing at 15000 feet
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Day Air attack on Hong Kong Fortress, at 43,42
Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 6
Ki-51 Sonia x 24
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-51 Sonia: 5 destroyed, 12 damaged
Aircraft Attacking:
19 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on FMSV Brigade, at 24,45
Japanese aircraft
C5M Babs x 1
Ki-21 Sally x 9
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21 Sally: 1 damaged
Allied ground losses:
5 casualties reported
Aircraft Attacking:
9 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 12000 feet
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Day Air attack on 8th Indian Brigade, at 24,45
Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 5
Ki-48 Lily x 30
Ki-15 Babs x 3
No Japanese losses
Allied ground losses:
18 casualties reported
Aircraft Attacking:
18 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 15000 feet
12 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 15000 feet
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Day Air attack on 8th Indian Brigade, at 24,45
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 18
C5M Babs x 1
Ki-21 Sally x 30
Ki-46-II Dinah x 3
Ki-15 Babs x 3
No Japanese losses
Allied ground losses:
11 casualties reported
Aircraft Attacking:
13 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 10000 feet
11 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 12000 feet
6 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 10000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 27,51
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 2
G3M Nell x 33
Japanese aircraft losses
G3M Nell: 1 damaged
Allied Ships
DD Thanet
DD Thracian
DD Scout
Aircraft Attacking:
1 x G3M Nell launching torpedoes at 200 feet
2 x G3M Nell launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x G3M Nell launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x G3M Nell launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x G3M Nell launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x G3M Nell launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x G3M Nell launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x G3M Nell launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x G3M Nell launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x G3M Nell launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on Kweichow , at 45,33
Japanese aircraft
Ki-27 Nate x 13
Ki-30 Ann x 7
Ki-15 Babs x 1
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-30 Ann: 2 damaged
Aircraft Attacking:
7 x Ki-30 Ann bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on Kanhsien , at 45,39
Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 6
Ki-48 Lily x 20
No Japanese losses
Aircraft Attacking:
20 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 15000 feet
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Day Air attack on Clark Field , at 43,51
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 11
Allied aircraft
P-26A x 2
P-35A x 1
P-40E Warhawk x 2
P-40B Tomahawk x 1
No Japanese losses
Allied aircraft losses
P-26A: 1 damaged
P-35A: 1 destroyed
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Day Air attack on TF, near Singora at 24,43
Allied aircraft
Blenheim I x 6
Hudson I x 6
No Allied losses
Japanese Ships
DD Shirakumo
DD Yugiri
DD Murakumo
Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Hudson I bombing at 15000 feet
3 x Blenheim I bombing at 15000 feet
3 x Blenheim I bombing at 15000 feet
3 x Hudson I bombing at 15000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 27,46
Allied aircraft
Blenheim IV x 9
No Allied losses
Japanese Ships
AP Mogamigawa Maru
Aircraft Attacking:
9 x Blenheim IV bombing at 15000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 27,51
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 14
G3M Nell x 26
Japanese aircraft losses
G3M Nell: 2 damaged
Allied Ships
DD Thanet
DD Thracian
DD Scout
Aircraft Attacking:
4 x G3M Nell launching torpedoes at 200 feet
2 x G3M Nell launching torpedoes at 200 feet
2 x G3M Nell launching torpedoes at 200 feet
2 x G3M Nell launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x G3M Nell launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x G3M Nell launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x G3M Nell launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x G3M Nell launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 34,63
Japanese aircraft
A5M4 Claude x 9
B5N Kate x 18
Japanese aircraft losses
B5N Kate: 2 destroyed, 2 damaged
Allied Ships
AK Bisayas
AK Don Jose
AK Sagoland, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
AK Anakan, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
Aircraft Attacking:
2 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Ground combat at Hong Kong
Japanese Deliberate attack
Attacking force 45290 troops, 472 guns, 14 vehicles
Defending force 11464 troops, 92 guns, 4 vehicles
Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 4
Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 4)
Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 4
Japanese ground losses:
283 casualties reported
Guns lost 10
Allied ground losses:
132 casualties reported
Guns lost 5
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Ground combat at Kota Bharu
Japanese Deliberate attack
Attacking force 16796 troops, 235 guns, 14 vehicles
Defending force 10183 troops, 46 guns, 0 vehicles
Japanese assault odds: 3 to 1 (fort level 2)
Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 1
Japanese ground losses:
107 casualties reported
Guns lost 2
Allied ground losses:
117 casualties reported
Guns lost 5
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Ground combat at Kota Bharu
Allied Bombardment attack
Attacking force 6066 troops, 35 guns, 0 vehicles
Defending force 16567 troops, 231 guns, 14 vehicles
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Ground combat at Tuguegarao
Japanese Shock attack
Attacking force 676 troops, 4 guns, 0 vehicles
Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles
Japanese assault odds: 15 to 1 (fort level 3)
Japanese forces CAPTURE Tuguegarao base !!!
So IJN is having fun beating up on the fleeing merchant shipping and moving forward in PI and Malaya. My opponent is moving at a very slow pace right now but I suspect that is just feeling me out. Repulse has made it back to Singapore with 87 System Damage and 70 Flotation. SHe is alfoat but just barely. AS getting her out is a pipedream, I plan to just use her as a flaoting target. Amazingly, the DD's that started in Hong Kong will make Singapore in the first movement phase of the next turn (hopefully). I am going to make another post regarding my current tactical and strategic plans
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Night Time Surface Combat at 41,54
Japanese Ships
DD Yamagumo
DD Ikazuchi
DD Inazuma
DD Chidori
DD Manazuru
DD Tomozuru
Allied Ships
AO Pecos, Shell hits 20, on fire, heavy damage
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Day Air attack on CCP New 4th Army, at 47,41
Japanese aircraft
Ki-27 Nate x 8
Ki-21 Sally x 13
No Japanese losses
Allied ground losses:
45 casualties reported
Aircraft Attacking:
13 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 11000 feet
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Day Air attack on Alor Star , at 24,44
Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 43
Ki-21 Sally x 27
Ki-48 Lily x 22
Ki-46-II Dinah x 1
Ki-15 Babs x 3
Allied aircraft
no flights
No Japanese losses
Allied aircraft losses
Blenheim I: 1 destroyed
Airbase hits 5
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 9
Aircraft Attacking:
19 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 15000 feet
27 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 15000 feet
3 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 15000 feet
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Day Air attack on Alor Star , at 24,44
Japanese aircraft
Ki-21 Sally x 26
Ki-46-II Dinah x 3
Ki-15 Babs x 3
Allied aircraft
no flights
No Japanese losses
Allied aircraft losses
No Allied losses
Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 10
Aircraft Attacking:
19 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 13000 feet
7 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 13000 feet
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Day Air attack on Singapore , at 22,51
Japanese aircraft
G3M Nell x 35
Allied aircraft
Buffalo I x 14
Japanese aircraft losses
G3M Nell: 1 destroyed, 6 damaged
Allied aircraft losses
Buffalo I: 1 destroyed, 3 damaged
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 3
Aircraft Attacking:
4 x G3M Nell bombing at 15000 feet
12 x G3M Nell bombing at 15000 feet
3 x G3M Nell bombing at 15000 feet
3 x G3M Nell bombing at 15000 feet
7 x G3M Nell bombing at 15000 feet
3 x G3M Nell bombing at 15000 feet
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Day Air attack on Hong Kong Fortress, at 43,42
Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 6
Ki-51 Sonia x 24
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-51 Sonia: 5 destroyed, 12 damaged
Aircraft Attacking:
19 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on FMSV Brigade, at 24,45
Japanese aircraft
C5M Babs x 1
Ki-21 Sally x 9
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21 Sally: 1 damaged
Allied ground losses:
5 casualties reported
Aircraft Attacking:
9 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 12000 feet
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Day Air attack on 8th Indian Brigade, at 24,45
Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 5
Ki-48 Lily x 30
Ki-15 Babs x 3
No Japanese losses
Allied ground losses:
18 casualties reported
Aircraft Attacking:
18 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 15000 feet
12 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 15000 feet
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Day Air attack on 8th Indian Brigade, at 24,45
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 18
C5M Babs x 1
Ki-21 Sally x 30
Ki-46-II Dinah x 3
Ki-15 Babs x 3
No Japanese losses
Allied ground losses:
11 casualties reported
Aircraft Attacking:
13 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 10000 feet
11 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 12000 feet
6 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 10000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 27,51
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 2
G3M Nell x 33
Japanese aircraft losses
G3M Nell: 1 damaged
Allied Ships
DD Thanet
DD Thracian
DD Scout
Aircraft Attacking:
1 x G3M Nell launching torpedoes at 200 feet
2 x G3M Nell launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x G3M Nell launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x G3M Nell launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x G3M Nell launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x G3M Nell launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x G3M Nell launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x G3M Nell launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x G3M Nell launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x G3M Nell launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on Kweichow , at 45,33
Japanese aircraft
Ki-27 Nate x 13
Ki-30 Ann x 7
Ki-15 Babs x 1
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-30 Ann: 2 damaged
Aircraft Attacking:
7 x Ki-30 Ann bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on Kanhsien , at 45,39
Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 6
Ki-48 Lily x 20
No Japanese losses
Aircraft Attacking:
20 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 15000 feet
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Day Air attack on Clark Field , at 43,51
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 11
Allied aircraft
P-26A x 2
P-35A x 1
P-40E Warhawk x 2
P-40B Tomahawk x 1
No Japanese losses
Allied aircraft losses
P-26A: 1 damaged
P-35A: 1 destroyed
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Day Air attack on TF, near Singora at 24,43
Allied aircraft
Blenheim I x 6
Hudson I x 6
No Allied losses
Japanese Ships
DD Shirakumo
DD Yugiri
DD Murakumo
Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Hudson I bombing at 15000 feet
3 x Blenheim I bombing at 15000 feet
3 x Blenheim I bombing at 15000 feet
3 x Hudson I bombing at 15000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 27,46
Allied aircraft
Blenheim IV x 9
No Allied losses
Japanese Ships
AP Mogamigawa Maru
Aircraft Attacking:
9 x Blenheim IV bombing at 15000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 27,51
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 14
G3M Nell x 26
Japanese aircraft losses
G3M Nell: 2 damaged
Allied Ships
DD Thanet
DD Thracian
DD Scout
Aircraft Attacking:
4 x G3M Nell launching torpedoes at 200 feet
2 x G3M Nell launching torpedoes at 200 feet
2 x G3M Nell launching torpedoes at 200 feet
2 x G3M Nell launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x G3M Nell launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x G3M Nell launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x G3M Nell launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x G3M Nell launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 34,63
Japanese aircraft
A5M4 Claude x 9
B5N Kate x 18
Japanese aircraft losses
B5N Kate: 2 destroyed, 2 damaged
Allied Ships
AK Bisayas
AK Don Jose
AK Sagoland, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
AK Anakan, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
Aircraft Attacking:
2 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Ground combat at Hong Kong
Japanese Deliberate attack
Attacking force 45290 troops, 472 guns, 14 vehicles
Defending force 11464 troops, 92 guns, 4 vehicles
Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 4
Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 4)
Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 4
Japanese ground losses:
283 casualties reported
Guns lost 10
Allied ground losses:
132 casualties reported
Guns lost 5
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Ground combat at Kota Bharu
Japanese Deliberate attack
Attacking force 16796 troops, 235 guns, 14 vehicles
Defending force 10183 troops, 46 guns, 0 vehicles
Japanese assault odds: 3 to 1 (fort level 2)
Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 1
Japanese ground losses:
107 casualties reported
Guns lost 2
Allied ground losses:
117 casualties reported
Guns lost 5
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Ground combat at Kota Bharu
Allied Bombardment attack
Attacking force 6066 troops, 35 guns, 0 vehicles
Defending force 16567 troops, 231 guns, 14 vehicles
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Ground combat at Tuguegarao
Japanese Shock attack
Attacking force 676 troops, 4 guns, 0 vehicles
Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles
Japanese assault odds: 15 to 1 (fort level 3)
Japanese forces CAPTURE Tuguegarao base !!!
So IJN is having fun beating up on the fleeing merchant shipping and moving forward in PI and Malaya. My opponent is moving at a very slow pace right now but I suspect that is just feeling me out. Repulse has made it back to Singapore with 87 System Damage and 70 Flotation. SHe is alfoat but just barely. AS getting her out is a pipedream, I plan to just use her as a flaoting target. Amazingly, the DD's that started in Hong Kong will make Singapore in the first movement phase of the next turn (hopefully). I am going to make another post regarding my current tactical and strategic plans
"We have met the enemy and they are ours" - Commodore O.H. Perry
RE: Vettim89 vs Greasylake - no oily bodies of water allowed
First, I would appreciate any and all comments regarding this post. I will divide this into short term, mid term and long term as far as my plans.
Short Term
1. SCTF at Soroebaja (all the Dutch + UK CL's), Tarakan (4 USN DD/Dutch PT's), and Kendari (Remaining USN ships)
2. Aggressive mining of Batavia, Palembang, and Mokassar Strait
3. Sub Patrols are focused in choke points - North of Luzon, Makassar Str, Moluccan Str, etc and off northern Borneo
4. POW is making her way through the Sunda Strait and will make for Ceylon via West Coast of Sumutra
5. US CVTF are still hiding near Christmas Island (PO). Will head to PH next where they will meet up with Saratoga.
6. Placed small AUssie/NZ SCTF in Rabaul and Noumea to counter unsupported landings in Coral Sea area
Mid Term
1. All Merchant shipping pulling out of Bay of Bengal. Will start CS from Aden to Karachi, Madras, and Colombo. Small TF will move supply around Bay of Bengal from these hubs
2. Pulling all units in Burma to a line roughly from Ledo to Akyab. Will leave rear gurad units behind to slow advance
3. Moving CS TF to Suva. WIll use this as a hub to then supply OZ, NZ, and Noumea.
Long Term
1. Establish defensive perimeter in SE Pacific focused on Pogo Pogo, SUva, Noumea, PM line
2. Do a fighting withdraw in Burma without commiting additional units there to keep as much free to guard against a invasion in central/western INdia
3. Concede the DEI but do a strongpoint defense focused on the Resource and Oil Centers.
4. Avoid engaging IJN prior to Zero bonus expiration but use my CV's to attack targets of opportunity
That will take me to May (hopefully). What I really need help with is what to do with subs
Short Term
1. SCTF at Soroebaja (all the Dutch + UK CL's), Tarakan (4 USN DD/Dutch PT's), and Kendari (Remaining USN ships)
2. Aggressive mining of Batavia, Palembang, and Mokassar Strait
3. Sub Patrols are focused in choke points - North of Luzon, Makassar Str, Moluccan Str, etc and off northern Borneo
4. POW is making her way through the Sunda Strait and will make for Ceylon via West Coast of Sumutra
5. US CVTF are still hiding near Christmas Island (PO). Will head to PH next where they will meet up with Saratoga.
6. Placed small AUssie/NZ SCTF in Rabaul and Noumea to counter unsupported landings in Coral Sea area
Mid Term
1. All Merchant shipping pulling out of Bay of Bengal. Will start CS from Aden to Karachi, Madras, and Colombo. Small TF will move supply around Bay of Bengal from these hubs
2. Pulling all units in Burma to a line roughly from Ledo to Akyab. Will leave rear gurad units behind to slow advance
3. Moving CS TF to Suva. WIll use this as a hub to then supply OZ, NZ, and Noumea.
Long Term
1. Establish defensive perimeter in SE Pacific focused on Pogo Pogo, SUva, Noumea, PM line
2. Do a fighting withdraw in Burma without commiting additional units there to keep as much free to guard against a invasion in central/western INdia
3. Concede the DEI but do a strongpoint defense focused on the Resource and Oil Centers.
4. Avoid engaging IJN prior to Zero bonus expiration but use my CV's to attack targets of opportunity
That will take me to May (hopefully). What I really need help with is what to do with subs
"We have met the enemy and they are ours" - Commodore O.H. Perry
RE: Vettim89 vs Greasylake - no oily bodies of water allowed
13 Dec 1941
Having read some other AAR's, I decided to changed this to a narrative form vs. Combat Report form. I will probably still include some combat reports occasionally as might be warranted. We'll todays turn was interesting in what didn't happen. Greasylake had a mini-KB just north of the Makassar strait yesterday which made me accept my fate. I had over 30 ships moving past Balikapapan at that time and knew if he contued south, it was going to get ugly. To my surprise, his CVTF moved East and is now north of the Molacca's. All my shipping is now through Macassar and heading to Soroebaja.
Greasylake landed troops at Wenchow today and that is bad for about half a dozen Chinese units that are about to be pinched. I am moving as many units back as fast as I can to a point west of Canton. This area will be touch and go for the next week or so. In north central China I am moving my partisan units in position to block as many LOC's as I can.
Yesterday I thought the threat of KB reappearing had waned so the SCTF that was lurking at Johnston Island headed back to PH. You can imagine the smerk on my face when KB appeared NW of Johnston today and pounded the base and the lone MSW I somehow managed to miss.
The war is a week old and I have only lost 6 ships: BB Tennesee lost on Day 2 of PH, the 3 UK Destroyers lost in the Force Z sortie, and an AO and TK lost in the PI. My concern at this point is not where the Japanese are but where they are NOT! Greasylake has only a few units ashore in Malaya (18 K troops and Koto Bhura and one unit at Singora), troops at Wake (historical), Makin (maybe), and Guam. He has a sizable force ashore in northern Luzon but still within historical limitations. WIth the exception of Wenchow he has not yet appeared anywhere I didn't expect him. He has made no move toward NG, Rabaul, or the Gilberts yet. I don't know if I should be worried yet or not. Is he considering an invasion of the HI or Midway? Also no moves in the SRA area at all yat. I know its only been a week but I am still worried about the possibilites.
Having read some other AAR's, I decided to changed this to a narrative form vs. Combat Report form. I will probably still include some combat reports occasionally as might be warranted. We'll todays turn was interesting in what didn't happen. Greasylake had a mini-KB just north of the Makassar strait yesterday which made me accept my fate. I had over 30 ships moving past Balikapapan at that time and knew if he contued south, it was going to get ugly. To my surprise, his CVTF moved East and is now north of the Molacca's. All my shipping is now through Macassar and heading to Soroebaja.
Greasylake landed troops at Wenchow today and that is bad for about half a dozen Chinese units that are about to be pinched. I am moving as many units back as fast as I can to a point west of Canton. This area will be touch and go for the next week or so. In north central China I am moving my partisan units in position to block as many LOC's as I can.
Yesterday I thought the threat of KB reappearing had waned so the SCTF that was lurking at Johnston Island headed back to PH. You can imagine the smerk on my face when KB appeared NW of Johnston today and pounded the base and the lone MSW I somehow managed to miss.
The war is a week old and I have only lost 6 ships: BB Tennesee lost on Day 2 of PH, the 3 UK Destroyers lost in the Force Z sortie, and an AO and TK lost in the PI. My concern at this point is not where the Japanese are but where they are NOT! Greasylake has only a few units ashore in Malaya (18 K troops and Koto Bhura and one unit at Singora), troops at Wake (historical), Makin (maybe), and Guam. He has a sizable force ashore in northern Luzon but still within historical limitations. WIth the exception of Wenchow he has not yet appeared anywhere I didn't expect him. He has made no move toward NG, Rabaul, or the Gilberts yet. I don't know if I should be worried yet or not. Is he considering an invasion of the HI or Midway? Also no moves in the SRA area at all yat. I know its only been a week but I am still worried about the possibilites.
"We have met the enemy and they are ours" - Commodore O.H. Perry
RE: Vettim89 vs Greasylake - no oily bodies of water allowed
Forgot - Hong Kong fell and 11000 Brits begin their long stay as guest of the Japanese army
"We have met the enemy and they are ours" - Commodore O.H. Perry
RE: Vettim89 vs Greasylake - no oily bodies of water allowed
Can you post some screenshoots? [:)]
RE: Vettim89 vs Greasylake - no oily bodies of water allowed
Yes I will post some screen shots soon. I should have posted the Ships Sunk screen as I am quite proud of my 7 days in and only 6 ships lining the bottom of the Pacific. Greasylake really misses that opportunity in the Makassar Strait. Also, with the successful run of the Hong Kong DD's, I don't ffel bad about losing the DD's in the Force Z TF. Really feel like I came out even in that exchange. I think Greasylake may be a little disoriented right now and that is in my favor. If I were playing the Japanese I think I would be up to some real nefarious actions by this point, but that's just me
"We have met the enemy and they are ours" - Commodore O.H. Perry
RE: Vettim89 vs Greasylake - no oily bodies of water allowed
Photobucket works best [:)]
RE: Vettim89 vs Greasylake - no oily bodies of water allowed
14 Dec 1941
Will devide this into Good News, Bad News, and Operations Update
Good News
POW hs now cleared the northern tip of Sumutra and is heading to Ceylon. My PT's left Manilla and mauled a landing TF at Lingayan - 3 MSW sunk and 2 AP's and a AK badly damged. I lost a PT and had another damaged. A S Boat hit a TransportTF south of the Pescadores and reported a hit. I am aggressively patroling the waters around the HI and one TF reported sinking a sub. The first TF are leaving Soroebaja loaded with fuel and resources and heading to Perth. LBA in Malaya fairly mauled a transport TF transiting SE of Singapore - wonder where he's going.
Bad News
Clark Field has about ceased to be effective. I am moving units out as fast as I can to Manilla and Cagayan. Repulse Flotation damage went up! [X(] She now sits at 77 FLOT, 88 SYS. That is it for today but as I now see AmphTF moving toward teh SRA I suspect that will change soon.
Operational Update
KB is heading west - currently due south of Midway. I lost track of the mini-KB last seen near the Moloccas. Still no action in SP. I am moving all Dutch units on Java to Batavia Titilijap and Soroebaja. All Dutch units on SUmutra that can move are moving to Palembang. In China, my opponent seems very weak in NE China so I am planning a low intensity offensive there to tie up units as much as possible. My CVTF are still lurking south and east of the HI and will not return until the Sub Threat is reduced.
Will devide this into Good News, Bad News, and Operations Update
Good News
POW hs now cleared the northern tip of Sumutra and is heading to Ceylon. My PT's left Manilla and mauled a landing TF at Lingayan - 3 MSW sunk and 2 AP's and a AK badly damged. I lost a PT and had another damaged. A S Boat hit a TransportTF south of the Pescadores and reported a hit. I am aggressively patroling the waters around the HI and one TF reported sinking a sub. The first TF are leaving Soroebaja loaded with fuel and resources and heading to Perth. LBA in Malaya fairly mauled a transport TF transiting SE of Singapore - wonder where he's going.
Bad News
Clark Field has about ceased to be effective. I am moving units out as fast as I can to Manilla and Cagayan. Repulse Flotation damage went up! [X(] She now sits at 77 FLOT, 88 SYS. That is it for today but as I now see AmphTF moving toward teh SRA I suspect that will change soon.
Operational Update
KB is heading west - currently due south of Midway. I lost track of the mini-KB last seen near the Moloccas. Still no action in SP. I am moving all Dutch units on Java to Batavia Titilijap and Soroebaja. All Dutch units on SUmutra that can move are moving to Palembang. In China, my opponent seems very weak in NE China so I am planning a low intensity offensive there to tie up units as much as possible. My CVTF are still lurking south and east of the HI and will not return until the Sub Threat is reduced.
"We have met the enemy and they are ours" - Commodore O.H. Perry
RE: Vettim89 vs Greasylake - no oily bodies of water allowed
If you leave bases at Java empty, the Japanese player can use paratroopers to capture empty bases and his invasion force can just walk in there. This will save him a lot of disruption and casualties. Further he can cut of your armies at Batavia and Tjilitjap from Soerabaja (by for example capturing Djokjakarta by paratroopers). He then can finish them off one by one.
Moving troops in Sumatra takes a lot of time (probably too much) and will be a huge burden on your troops (exaust levels). You might want to think this over.......
Moving troops in Sumatra takes a lot of time (probably too much) and will be a huge burden on your troops (exaust levels). You might want to think this over.......
RE: Vettim89 vs Greasylake - no oily bodies of water allowed
Thanks for the advice Dennishe. The only troops moving in Sumutra are those close enough to actually make it to Palembang. I will stop most unit movement in Java. Forgot about the whole para thing. Obviously one of the biggest holes in this game is the wholesale use of Paratroops and air transport. It was done in RL but on a much more limited basis: Japanese took Miri in northern Borneo with paratroops the frist week of the war (interestingly enough I think the stock range for japanese transports won't let them reach), Aussies took and sustained Wau on PNG completely with air transport, and of course the Chindits/Merrill's Marauders adventrues in Burma. Still very limited use of paratroops in RL compared to game.
"We have met the enemy and they are ours" - Commodore O.H. Perry
RE: Vettim89 vs Greasylake - no oily bodies of water allowed
15 December 1941
What a difference a day makes. The two TF sighted SE of Singapore yesterday were really 5 TF's. Mersing has been invaded and bad weather prevented my LBA from Singapore from interfering. The turn arrived withe comment "Hmmmm" from Greasylake. I am wondering if that was brought on by the fact that Mersing is no where near empty as I have been pulling back units from northeren Malaya from the onset of hosilities. I suspect he was hoping for a Coup d' Main with the effect of severeing the forces in Malaya in two. I have more units inbound so I hope I can hold off the invaders long enough to get the remaining troops out.
The other three TF's (2 SCTF and one AmphTF arrived at Kuching. Here my brave Dutch PT's tried to emulate their American brethren's success of yesterday only to be "crunched to crap" for the net result of no hits. I will keep the 2 remaining boats here to die a glorious death tomorrow. My subs were guarding Brunai so are out of position. That is being remedied
Mines in Wenchow harbor are still hitting the ships unloading there. Mini-KB is spotted in the Celebes Sea covering the invasion of Davao. Here CD scored some good hits but not enough to repulse the invaders. Speaking of Repulse, her Flot damage is down to 75. KB again appeared NW of Johnston Island and pounded the atoll into a pile of coral dust. I suspect an invasion is forthcoming soon. I am repositioning my subs north and west of here as I have to believe there is a replenishment TF lurking out there somewhere. Wish me luck.
What a difference a day makes. The two TF sighted SE of Singapore yesterday were really 5 TF's. Mersing has been invaded and bad weather prevented my LBA from Singapore from interfering. The turn arrived withe comment "Hmmmm" from Greasylake. I am wondering if that was brought on by the fact that Mersing is no where near empty as I have been pulling back units from northeren Malaya from the onset of hosilities. I suspect he was hoping for a Coup d' Main with the effect of severeing the forces in Malaya in two. I have more units inbound so I hope I can hold off the invaders long enough to get the remaining troops out.
The other three TF's (2 SCTF and one AmphTF arrived at Kuching. Here my brave Dutch PT's tried to emulate their American brethren's success of yesterday only to be "crunched to crap" for the net result of no hits. I will keep the 2 remaining boats here to die a glorious death tomorrow. My subs were guarding Brunai so are out of position. That is being remedied
Mines in Wenchow harbor are still hitting the ships unloading there. Mini-KB is spotted in the Celebes Sea covering the invasion of Davao. Here CD scored some good hits but not enough to repulse the invaders. Speaking of Repulse, her Flot damage is down to 75. KB again appeared NW of Johnston Island and pounded the atoll into a pile of coral dust. I suspect an invasion is forthcoming soon. I am repositioning my subs north and west of here as I have to believe there is a replenishment TF lurking out there somewhere. Wish me luck.
"We have met the enemy and they are ours" - Commodore O.H. Perry
RE: Vettim89 vs Greasylake - no oily bodies of water allowed
16 Dec 1941
Will divide this into area of operation
PI: Greasylake continues to build forces in northern Luzon but has not started any offensive operations as of yet. Suspect he is trying to accumulate enoug AV to steamroll the US/Filipino forces all the way to Manilla. Did have one SS report a torpedo hit on an AK. Davao fell today and the Filipino troops chose surrender over retreat opening the road to Cagayan.[:(]
Malaya: Greasylake continues his bombing campaign in Northern Malaya. The weather clears and my LBA is doing its best to hammer the AmpTF at Mersing but haven't sunk anything as of yet. I have a small SCTF moving into Singapore that will replenish there next turn. I will have to check intel before sending it out as IJN BB's are just a few hundred NM SE of here at Kuching Good news is we are about equal in troop numbers here and I have the troops retreatign from Kota Bhura approaching.
SRA: only action here is that Kuching fell. Intel already reporting A/C stationed at this level 4 base so the complexion of this theatre is about to change.
No action in SP as of yet. KB and Mini-KB have disappeared
Will divide this into area of operation
PI: Greasylake continues to build forces in northern Luzon but has not started any offensive operations as of yet. Suspect he is trying to accumulate enoug AV to steamroll the US/Filipino forces all the way to Manilla. Did have one SS report a torpedo hit on an AK. Davao fell today and the Filipino troops chose surrender over retreat opening the road to Cagayan.[:(]
Malaya: Greasylake continues his bombing campaign in Northern Malaya. The weather clears and my LBA is doing its best to hammer the AmpTF at Mersing but haven't sunk anything as of yet. I have a small SCTF moving into Singapore that will replenish there next turn. I will have to check intel before sending it out as IJN BB's are just a few hundred NM SE of here at Kuching Good news is we are about equal in troop numbers here and I have the troops retreatign from Kota Bhura approaching.
SRA: only action here is that Kuching fell. Intel already reporting A/C stationed at this level 4 base so the complexion of this theatre is about to change.
No action in SP as of yet. KB and Mini-KB have disappeared
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RE: Vettim89 vs Greasylake - no oily bodies of water allowed
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RE: Vettim89 vs Greasylake - no oily bodies of water allowed
Shisp sunk to date not coutning PT's, PC's. PG's
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RE: Vettim89 vs Greasylake - no oily bodies of water allowed
vettim89, in response to your post of 30 March regarding what to do with your subs.
1. Excepting the S-class subs whose torpedo dud rate is OK, the other USN subs, IMHO, are best employed to ferry supplies/evacuate units out of the Philippines. The Dutch subs in particular can be quite effective in launching their torpedoes (remember that O-19 and O-20 are dedicated minelayers but need a port size 9 or the presence of an MLE to reload mines).
2. Where to place your wolfpacks depends on (a) the endurance of the sub, and (b) where you are basing your patrol planes. If you maintain naval search planes at Singapore, Bataan and Manila, then you will find the South China Sea to provide you with a rich target environment. Due to their short range and assuming their home port is Soerabaya, the 3500 endurance Dutch subs are best employed off the Malay peninsula. Remember that in WITP, unlike RL, there are no "choke points" where subs can be best located, instead the best locations to place subs is where your patrol planes on naval search generate high DL.
3. The problem with your intended "aggressive mining" of Batavia, Palambang and Makassar Strait is that (a) only use of the Dutch ML will allow the laying of sufficient mines to constitute "aggressive mining" but most of these ML are short legged, (b) your ML will be far too vulnerable to Betty attack, and (c) you do not have a size 9 port in the DEI for mine reloads. I would seriously consider removing the Dutch ML out of the DEI and setting them to mine rear areas before they become war zones eg Ceylon/India.
Alfred
1. Excepting the S-class subs whose torpedo dud rate is OK, the other USN subs, IMHO, are best employed to ferry supplies/evacuate units out of the Philippines. The Dutch subs in particular can be quite effective in launching their torpedoes (remember that O-19 and O-20 are dedicated minelayers but need a port size 9 or the presence of an MLE to reload mines).
2. Where to place your wolfpacks depends on (a) the endurance of the sub, and (b) where you are basing your patrol planes. If you maintain naval search planes at Singapore, Bataan and Manila, then you will find the South China Sea to provide you with a rich target environment. Due to their short range and assuming their home port is Soerabaya, the 3500 endurance Dutch subs are best employed off the Malay peninsula. Remember that in WITP, unlike RL, there are no "choke points" where subs can be best located, instead the best locations to place subs is where your patrol planes on naval search generate high DL.
3. The problem with your intended "aggressive mining" of Batavia, Palambang and Makassar Strait is that (a) only use of the Dutch ML will allow the laying of sufficient mines to constitute "aggressive mining" but most of these ML are short legged, (b) your ML will be far too vulnerable to Betty attack, and (c) you do not have a size 9 port in the DEI for mine reloads. I would seriously consider removing the Dutch ML out of the DEI and setting them to mine rear areas before they become war zones eg Ceylon/India.
Alfred