Second Round
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Second Round
herwin (playing Japan) versus blitzk (playing the Allies)
RHSRAO (latest version)
House rules posted to Opponents Wanted board.
After months of steadily worsening relations and the recent American Government decision to confiscate the assets of people of Japanese ancestry, the Japanese Government has taken the step of declaring war on the United States and the British Commonwealth.
Hostilities began in a tragi-comic fashion with a gun duel between the American Navy oiler Brazos and the armed Japanese freighter Akagi Maru at Dutch Harbor.
During the first day, there were Japanese airstrikes on Singapore, Davao, Angeles/Clark, Wake Is., and Hong Kong, naval bombardments of Kota Bharu and Guam, and troop landings on Wake Is., Guam, Davao, Kota Bharu, Aparri, Laong, Legaspi, the Batan Is., Kuching, Brunei, Tay-Tay, Rabaul, Kavieng, and Nauru in support of local separatists. Hong Kong was invested by forces based at Canton supporting the local rebels. There was a surprise attack by B-17s on a Japanese carrier TF that did no damage and was seen off rapidly by defending fighters. The results of the airstrike on Angeles/Clark were made much worse by the decision by Field Marshal Macarthur to ground and concentrate the aircraft to protect them from attacks by the Filipino rebels active in the area. The Japanese Government has announced its support for the rebel Governments of Malaya and the Filipinas and is landing troops in their support.
RHSRAO (latest version)
House rules posted to Opponents Wanted board.
After months of steadily worsening relations and the recent American Government decision to confiscate the assets of people of Japanese ancestry, the Japanese Government has taken the step of declaring war on the United States and the British Commonwealth.
Hostilities began in a tragi-comic fashion with a gun duel between the American Navy oiler Brazos and the armed Japanese freighter Akagi Maru at Dutch Harbor.
During the first day, there were Japanese airstrikes on Singapore, Davao, Angeles/Clark, Wake Is., and Hong Kong, naval bombardments of Kota Bharu and Guam, and troop landings on Wake Is., Guam, Davao, Kota Bharu, Aparri, Laong, Legaspi, the Batan Is., Kuching, Brunei, Tay-Tay, Rabaul, Kavieng, and Nauru in support of local separatists. Hong Kong was invested by forces based at Canton supporting the local rebels. There was a surprise attack by B-17s on a Japanese carrier TF that did no damage and was seen off rapidly by defending fighters. The results of the airstrike on Angeles/Clark were made much worse by the decision by Field Marshal Macarthur to ground and concentrate the aircraft to protect them from attacks by the Filipino rebels active in the area. The Japanese Government has announced its support for the rebel Governments of Malaya and the Filipinas and is landing troops in their support.
Harry Erwin
"For a number to make sense in the game, someone has to calibrate it and program code. There are too many significant numbers that behave non-linearly to expect that. It's just a game. Enjoy it." herwin@btinternet.com
"For a number to make sense in the game, someone has to calibrate it and program code. There are too many significant numbers that behave non-linearly to expect that. It's just a game. Enjoy it." herwin@btinternet.com
RE: Second Round
8 December 1941
Wake, Laong, and Legaspi surrender to the Japanese.
Boise, Force Z, Louisville, and Marblehead play 'whack a mole' with IJN mini-invasions.
Wake, Laong, and Legaspi surrender to the Japanese.
Boise, Force Z, Louisville, and Marblehead play 'whack a mole' with IJN mini-invasions.
Harry Erwin
"For a number to make sense in the game, someone has to calibrate it and program code. There are too many significant numbers that behave non-linearly to expect that. It's just a game. Enjoy it." herwin@btinternet.com
"For a number to make sense in the game, someone has to calibrate it and program code. There are too many significant numbers that behave non-linearly to expect that. It's just a game. Enjoy it." herwin@btinternet.com
RE: Second Round
ORIGINAL: String
No sign of the fast strike force?
Does that bother you?
It's running in stealth mode.
Harry Erwin
"For a number to make sense in the game, someone has to calibrate it and program code. There are too many significant numbers that behave non-linearly to expect that. It's just a game. Enjoy it." herwin@btinternet.com
"For a number to make sense in the game, someone has to calibrate it and program code. There are too many significant numbers that behave non-linearly to expect that. It's just a game. Enjoy it." herwin@btinternet.com
RE: Second Round
ORIGINAL: herwin
ORIGINAL: String
No sign of the fast strike force?
Does that bother you?
It's running in stealth mode.
Interesting. Severely limits what the allies can do right now.
Surface combat TF fanboy
RE: Second Round
ORIGINAL: String
ORIGINAL: herwin
ORIGINAL: String
No sign of the fast strike force?
Does that bother you?
It's running in stealth mode.
Interesting. Severely limits what the allies can do right now.
Look at our house rules. Hitting Pearl Harbor with the KB meant that the Allies knew exactly where the KB was for about two weeks.
You're aware that the original plan for the Pearl Harbor strike envisioned scuttling the Hiryu and Soryu afterwards?... Eventually they figured out how to get them home.
Harry Erwin
"For a number to make sense in the game, someone has to calibrate it and program code. There are too many significant numbers that behave non-linearly to expect that. It's just a game. Enjoy it." herwin@btinternet.com
"For a number to make sense in the game, someone has to calibrate it and program code. There are too many significant numbers that behave non-linearly to expect that. It's just a game. Enjoy it." herwin@btinternet.com
RE: Second Round
ORIGINAL: herwin
You're aware that the original plan for the Pearl Harbor strike envisioned scuttling the Hiryu and Soryu afterwards?... Eventually they figured out how to get them home.
I am stunned at that. I had heard they had a fuel problem that required working out. That they would seriously consider scuttling to front line carriers is simply mind numbing. Was that a serious 'plan' or somebody's way of saying to certain staff members "You bozos better figure this out!"?
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RE: Second Round
ORIGINAL: witpqs
ORIGINAL: herwin
You're aware that the original plan for the Pearl Harbor strike envisioned scuttling the Hiryu and Soryu afterwards?... Eventually they figured out how to get them home.
I am stunned at that. I had heard they had a fuel problem that required working out. That they would seriously consider scuttling to front line carriers is simply mind numbing. Was that a serious 'plan' or somebody's way of saying to certain staff members "You bozos better figure this out!"?
It was a serious first cut at the plan.
Harry Erwin
"For a number to make sense in the game, someone has to calibrate it and program code. There are too many significant numbers that behave non-linearly to expect that. It's just a game. Enjoy it." herwin@btinternet.com
"For a number to make sense in the game, someone has to calibrate it and program code. There are too many significant numbers that behave non-linearly to expect that. It's just a game. Enjoy it." herwin@btinternet.com
RE: Second Round
ORIGINAL: herwin
ORIGINAL: String
ORIGINAL: herwin
Does that bother you?
It's running in stealth mode.
Interesting. Severely limits what the allies can do right now.
Look at our house rules. Hitting Pearl Harbor with the KB meant that the Allies knew exactly where the KB was for about two weeks.
You're aware that the original plan for the Pearl Harbor strike envisioned scuttling the Hiryu and Soryu afterwards?... Eventually they figured out how to get them home.
Yeap, i'm familiar with the house rules, or atleast I skimmed them. I was kinda surprised that you didn't decide to whack Manila or Singapore instead, but keeping the allies guessing is probably worth it.
Surface combat TF fanboy
RE: Second Round
I probably would have, but I don't know how. I suspect I have to edit the position of TF 1 in the scenario files. I didn't want to mod it, so I simply ordered it to where I needed it.ORIGINAL: String
ORIGINAL: herwin
ORIGINAL: String
Interesting. Severely limits what the allies can do right now.
Look at our house rules. Hitting Pearl Harbor with the KB meant that the Allies knew exactly where the KB was for about two weeks.
You're aware that the original plan for the Pearl Harbor strike envisioned scuttling the Hiryu and Soryu afterwards?... Eventually they figured out how to get them home.
Yeap, i'm familiar with the house rules, or atleast I skimmed them. I was kinda surprised that you didn't decide to whack Manila or Singapore instead, but keeping the allies guessing is probably worth it.
The other thing I did was make it less visible--when I played you, the KB remained visible halfway across the Pacific-its DL was sky-high. That's why I was able to evade you.
Harry Erwin
"For a number to make sense in the game, someone has to calibrate it and program code. There are too many significant numbers that behave non-linearly to expect that. It's just a game. Enjoy it." herwin@btinternet.com
"For a number to make sense in the game, someone has to calibrate it and program code. There are too many significant numbers that behave non-linearly to expect that. It's just a game. Enjoy it." herwin@btinternet.com
RE: Second Round
December 9th 1941
Operations underway continue...
Guam surrenders
Assault on Hong Kong
Kota Bharu captured by the Japanese
Taytay and Makin surrender
ASW operations off Malaya, the Philippines, and Hawaii result in damage to both sides
B-17s spot Ryujo TF and hit the CVL with a light bomb. Ship underway at full speed later in the day.
Air attack on the Kongo results in a hit. No apparent damage.
Two allied AKs sailing in company between the Philippines and Guam disappear. Final radio message reports a coordinated airstrike by hundreds of carrier aircraft.
Carrier strikes on Tacloban and on merchant vessels sailing near Jolo.
Operations underway continue...
Guam surrenders
Assault on Hong Kong
Kota Bharu captured by the Japanese
Taytay and Makin surrender
ASW operations off Malaya, the Philippines, and Hawaii result in damage to both sides
B-17s spot Ryujo TF and hit the CVL with a light bomb. Ship underway at full speed later in the day.
Air attack on the Kongo results in a hit. No apparent damage.
Two allied AKs sailing in company between the Philippines and Guam disappear. Final radio message reports a coordinated airstrike by hundreds of carrier aircraft.
Carrier strikes on Tacloban and on merchant vessels sailing near Jolo.
Harry Erwin
"For a number to make sense in the game, someone has to calibrate it and program code. There are too many significant numbers that behave non-linearly to expect that. It's just a game. Enjoy it." herwin@btinternet.com
"For a number to make sense in the game, someone has to calibrate it and program code. There are too many significant numbers that behave non-linearly to expect that. It's just a game. Enjoy it." herwin@btinternet.com
RE: Second Round
Dec 10 operations
Landings at Aparri continue. Smothering operations continue against Angeles/Clark, Alor Star, Cagayan, and Tacloban. Barge groups arrive on the map with heavy damage (some sinking immediately).
Landings at Aparri continue. Smothering operations continue against Angeles/Clark, Alor Star, Cagayan, and Tacloban. Barge groups arrive on the map with heavy damage (some sinking immediately).
Harry Erwin
"For a number to make sense in the game, someone has to calibrate it and program code. There are too many significant numbers that behave non-linearly to expect that. It's just a game. Enjoy it." herwin@btinternet.com
"For a number to make sense in the game, someone has to calibrate it and program code. There are too many significant numbers that behave non-linearly to expect that. It's just a game. Enjoy it." herwin@btinternet.com
Furball at Kuching
11 Dec 1941
A furball develops during the night as Force Z sorties to protect against Japanese reinforcement of the landing at Kuching. Force Z avoids interception by two destroyer squadrons and closes with the small reinforcement convoy, which is escorted by Isuzu, Chokai, and a destroyer. Isuzu is sunk and Chokai is superficially damaged, but the escorts put their fish in the water, and both Prince of Wales and Repulse are hit. After the two sides lose contact, the convoy continues to Kuching while an IJN battleship task force smothers the base with shore bombardment. In the morning, the sailors of Force Z hear the engines of a large G3M/G4M strike hunting for them, but only five of the torpedo bombers contact two ships in the screen and no torpedoes hit.
Smothering air attacks on Angeles/Clark, Davao, and Cebu during the day.
Dutch Harbor is bombarded.
A furball develops during the night as Force Z sorties to protect against Japanese reinforcement of the landing at Kuching. Force Z avoids interception by two destroyer squadrons and closes with the small reinforcement convoy, which is escorted by Isuzu, Chokai, and a destroyer. Isuzu is sunk and Chokai is superficially damaged, but the escorts put their fish in the water, and both Prince of Wales and Repulse are hit. After the two sides lose contact, the convoy continues to Kuching while an IJN battleship task force smothers the base with shore bombardment. In the morning, the sailors of Force Z hear the engines of a large G3M/G4M strike hunting for them, but only five of the torpedo bombers contact two ships in the screen and no torpedoes hit.
Smothering air attacks on Angeles/Clark, Davao, and Cebu during the day.
Dutch Harbor is bombarded.
Harry Erwin
"For a number to make sense in the game, someone has to calibrate it and program code. There are too many significant numbers that behave non-linearly to expect that. It's just a game. Enjoy it." herwin@btinternet.com
"For a number to make sense in the game, someone has to calibrate it and program code. There are too many significant numbers that behave non-linearly to expect that. It's just a game. Enjoy it." herwin@btinternet.com
RE: Furball at Kuching
12 Dec 41
A night-time naval duel takes place off Dutch Harbor between the Akagi Maru and the Prince Robert, the AM getting the better of the exchange.
More barge groups sink spontaneously.
Smothering operations against Kuching (naval), Aparri (naval), Tarakan (air), and Cagayan (air). Airstrikes against AK Anshun and ML Redstart.
Survivors rescued from CL Marblehead.
Aparri captured.
A night-time naval duel takes place off Dutch Harbor between the Akagi Maru and the Prince Robert, the AM getting the better of the exchange.
More barge groups sink spontaneously.
Smothering operations against Kuching (naval), Aparri (naval), Tarakan (air), and Cagayan (air). Airstrikes against AK Anshun and ML Redstart.
Survivors rescued from CL Marblehead.
Aparri captured.
Harry Erwin
"For a number to make sense in the game, someone has to calibrate it and program code. There are too many significant numbers that behave non-linearly to expect that. It's just a game. Enjoy it." herwin@btinternet.com
"For a number to make sense in the game, someone has to calibrate it and program code. There are too many significant numbers that behave non-linearly to expect that. It's just a game. Enjoy it." herwin@btinternet.com
RE: Furball at Kuching
Hm, barge groups arriving with damage? Sounds like mistyped values or something like that. what has the creator of the mod said about them?
Surface combat TF fanboy
RE: Furball at Kuching
ORIGINAL: String
Hm, barge groups arriving with damage? Sounds like mistyped values or something like that. what has the creator of the mod said about them?
El Cid says it's WAD--working as designed.
Harry Erwin
"For a number to make sense in the game, someone has to calibrate it and program code. There are too many significant numbers that behave non-linearly to expect that. It's just a game. Enjoy it." herwin@btinternet.com
"For a number to make sense in the game, someone has to calibrate it and program code. There are too many significant numbers that behave non-linearly to expect that. It's just a game. Enjoy it." herwin@btinternet.com
RE: Furball at Kuching
The only way that comes to mind where that makes sense is if it is meant to simulate damage to captured vessels. Is that the deal?
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RE: Furball at Kuching
ORIGINAL: herwin
ORIGINAL: String
Hm, barge groups arriving with damage? Sounds like mistyped values or something like that. what has the creator of the mod said about them?
El Cid says it's WAD--working as designed.
I really don't understand this one... did the Japanese build barges out of marston mat?
fair winds,
Brad
Brad
RE: Furball at Kuching
ORIGINAL: witpqs
The only way that comes to mind where that makes sense is if it is meant to simulate damage to captured vessels. Is that the deal?
No, he wrote about it in the message announcing the latest update on the scenario design board. It's intended to increase the realism of the Japanese industry model...
Harry Erwin
"For a number to make sense in the game, someone has to calibrate it and program code. There are too many significant numbers that behave non-linearly to expect that. It's just a game. Enjoy it." herwin@btinternet.com
"For a number to make sense in the game, someone has to calibrate it and program code. There are too many significant numbers that behave non-linearly to expect that. It's just a game. Enjoy it." herwin@btinternet.com
<New Message Name Needed>
13 Dec 1941
The Japanese Government announced that due to active support by the NEI of enemy operations in Borneo, Japan is sorry to have to consider itself in a state of war with the NEI as of 12 December 1941. This unfortunate outcome is fully the responsibility of the Netherlands Exile Government based in Java. Japan announced its political and military support for the Indonesian Provisional Government.
Submarine offensive operations off Hawaii resulted in a torpedo hit on the large American carrier, Saratoga. This is the third enemy capital vessel torpedoed in the last three days, demonstrating the technical superiority of Japanese industry.
Smothering operations continued against Balikpapan, Tarakan, and Jolo.
Alor Star captured.
The Japanese Government announced that due to active support by the NEI of enemy operations in Borneo, Japan is sorry to have to consider itself in a state of war with the NEI as of 12 December 1941. This unfortunate outcome is fully the responsibility of the Netherlands Exile Government based in Java. Japan announced its political and military support for the Indonesian Provisional Government.
Submarine offensive operations off Hawaii resulted in a torpedo hit on the large American carrier, Saratoga. This is the third enemy capital vessel torpedoed in the last three days, demonstrating the technical superiority of Japanese industry.
Smothering operations continued against Balikpapan, Tarakan, and Jolo.
Alor Star captured.
Harry Erwin
"For a number to make sense in the game, someone has to calibrate it and program code. There are too many significant numbers that behave non-linearly to expect that. It's just a game. Enjoy it." herwin@btinternet.com
"For a number to make sense in the game, someone has to calibrate it and program code. There are too many significant numbers that behave non-linearly to expect that. It's just a game. Enjoy it." herwin@btinternet.com