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GPW v5 6 player - Ger+Sov Souther Theater - 3/7/2008 7:36:03 PM   
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IN THIS AAR BOTH GERMAN SOUTHERN ARMYGROUP AND SOVIET SOUTHERN FRONTS WILL POST

The first turn the German Armygroup South was unstoppable.





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RE: GPW v5 6 player - Soviet South View - 3/7/2008 7:37:02 PM   
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On the second turn the Germans Armygroup South just raced along crushing anything trying to escape east.




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RE: GPW v5 6 player - Soviet South View - 3/7/2008 7:39:11 PM   
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On the third turn my initial frontline armies were as good as destroyed. German Armygroup South also took the beautifull port city of Odessa.




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RE: GPW v5 6 player - Soviet South View - 3/7/2008 10:43:20 PM   
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[AGS Week 1]

FYI - we are posting our AAR posts "late" in this particular AAR - i.e. I don't post screenshots until a couple turns later so that Vic and I can both read the AAR w/o seeing directly what the other side is doing at the moment.

I approached the AGS w/ the philosophy of trying to not only create pockets of OOS Soviets but also to infiltrate the front lines instead of just bashing through them. I'm not really sure yet whether this was a good idea or not. I give the Soviets a lot of PP by disbanding units, the ability to cause some potential supply problems, and perhaps I'll have to clean up those troops later if I don't just kill them w/ the combat bonus on turn 1. However it did allow me to make rather rapid progress and I think cut off some Soviets who otherwise would probably have escaped.






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RE: GPW v5 6 player - Soviet South View - 3/7/2008 10:45:06 PM   
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[AGS Week 1]
The same philosophy was applied for the Romanians even more than for AGS - so not many Soviet casualties were caused but lots of infiltration/penetration was accomplished.





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RE: GPW v5 6 player - Soviet South View - 3/8/2008 12:46:53 AM   
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[AGS Week 2]
The Empire Strikes Back

The Soviets didn't sit quietly in their pockets - they launched some vicious counterattacks nearly wiping out one german division and badly hurting another.





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RE: GPW v5 6 player - Soviet South View - 3/8/2008 12:48:26 AM   
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[AGS Turn 2]
In the south the Romanian 4th army along w/ German 11th army push across the Dniester and approach Odessa after some fighting.




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RE: GPW v5 6 player - Soviet South View - 3/8/2008 12:50:06 AM   
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[AGS Week 3]

Week 3 sees a fairly significant Soviet army near Ternapol surrounded and wiped out while lead elements of 1st Panzer Army approach Kiev.





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RE: GPW v5 6 player - Soviet South View - 3/8/2008 12:52:14 AM   
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[AGS Turn 3]
Farther south the German 11th army and Romanian 4th army face some decisions about where to go and where to plan crossings of the Dniepr. I normally post this AAR about 3 turns behind the game action so that if an opponent reads it they won't have up to date info. However in this case I'm posting the last turn I did so I won't speculate here about what the Romanian 4th Army and German 11th Army might do..... :)




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RE: GPW v5 6 player - Soviet South View - 4/2/2008 4:49:49 PM   
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[AGS Turn 4]
The 4th week of the campaign is mostly a race for the Dneipr river.





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RE: GPW v5 6 player - Soviet South View - 4/2/2008 4:51:16 PM   
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[AGS Turn 4]
The Romanians race forward as well - they'll miss the move bonus that they got for 4 turns - next turn it's down to a crawl, and Russia is very very big. For example the 49 PP Romanian infantry unit northeast of Pervomaisk will take about a month to march to Dnepropetrovsk - ouch!!





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RE: GPW v5 6 player - Soviet South View - 4/2/2008 4:54:27 PM   
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[AGS Turn 5]
AGS forward elements encounter fortified Soviets in the suburbs of Kiev - this will not be easy!

Soviet air fights the Luftwaffe and Romanian air force over Kiev with (surprisingly) the battle ending in a draw.

German 6th Army will probe the Kiev defenses while 1st Panzer Army continues southeast toward Cherkassy.

German 17th Army and Romanian 3rd Army lag well behind the vanguard.




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RE: GPW v5 6 player - Soviet South View - 4/2/2008 5:04:25 PM   
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[AGS Turn 5]

Kherson falls to Romanian 4th Army while German 11th Army approaches Krivoi Rog. At Krivoi a decision will have to be made about whether to drive farther south toward Nikopol or turn northeast toward Dnepropetrovsk.




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RE: GPW v5 6 player - Soviet South View - 4/2/2008 5:04:48 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: jjdenver

[AGS Turn 5]
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Soviet air fights the Luftwaffe and Romanian air force over Kiev with (surprisingly) the battle ending in a draw.

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A draw?!? the Luftwaffe lost 9 fighters, 3 level and 2 dive bombers to 9 Soviet fighters..... I hate to see what you call a loss....

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RE: GPW v5 6 player - Soviet South View - 4/2/2008 5:26:06 PM   
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quote:

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quote:

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[AGS Turn 5]
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Soviet air fights the Luftwaffe and Romanian air force over Kiev with (surprisingly) the battle ending in a draw.

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A draw?!? the Luftwaffe lost 9 fighters, 3 level and 2 dive bombers to 9 Soviet fighters..... I hate to see what you call a loss....



LOL - ok I agree it was a loss. I was writing this in a hurry and just saw 9 fighters vs 9 fighters. We're on Turn 10 now so that was a long time ago and I didn't really remember what happened exactly - sorry!!! :)

As you'll see in further AAR posts it only gets worse for the Luftwaffe. :(

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RE: GPW v5 6 player - Soviet South View - 4/2/2008 5:32:16 PM   
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[AGS Turn 6]

6th Army launches some assaults against the Kiev defenses and forces the Soviets back a hex - but fierce Soviet counterattacks with heavy artillery and armor support hit the 6th Army hard.

Farther west - some divisions have been sent to investigate Partisan activity which has forced all supply and reinforcements to funnel through Romania. It turns out that Soviet conscripts have shown up in cities which were not taken by Germany on the way east. Partians and small Soviet pockets are also active. I'm not sure whether Vic is dropping supplies to them or not but they have closed all roads east so something has to be done.






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RE: GPW v5 6 player - Soviet South View - 4/2/2008 5:34:39 PM   
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[AGS Turn 6]

Cherkassy is taken but the bridges over the Dniepr have been destroyed and the Soviets have defenses along the river's east bank.

Things are fairly quiet for 11th Army and Romanian 4th Army as they advance (at their snail's pace).




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RE: GPW v5 6 player - Soviet South View - 4/2/2008 8:55:06 PM   
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Soviet Perspective Round 4 - 6

The Germans advance towards and up to the Dnjepr river, reaching Kiev, in the north first, but not breaking through our strong defensive positions there. At end of round 6 the Dnjepr line has not been broken yet. But formations the size of 10-20 rifle are no match for the german armored divisions :(

Positive news: All Soviet airforces had been centeralized in Kiev and that move paid off. The Red Airforce managed to give the Luftwaffe a bloody nose!

However overall situation is grim. Only in the Kiev area our forces are strong enough to keep the front for a longer period of time. We lost virtually all initial troops in the first rounds, and rebuilding goes very very slowly. I think it is unavoidable we will have to give way to the german panzers when they cross the Dnjepr south of Kiev...

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RE: GPW v5 6 player - Ger+Sov Souther Theater - 4/23/2008 1:18:26 AM   
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[TURN 7 AGS view]
1st Pz Army forces a bridgehead at Cherkassy, forcing the Soviet defenders back to the east. They had skirted the Kiev defenses and now the plan is to drive north with them to cut off Kiev. They'll be backed by the 3rd Romanian army - only because it's farther east than infantry elements of 1 Pz Army and 17th Army.




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RE: GPW v5 6 player - Ger+Sov Souther Theater - 4/23/2008 1:22:34 AM   
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[Turn 7 AGS]

11th Army, composed of mostly Romanian divisions but a couple of German divisions, pushes toward the Dniepr bridge at Dnepropetrovsk but scouts report heavy soviet defenses on the east side of the river.

Along the Black Sea - the Romanian 4th Army pushes on Perakop which is heavily defended.




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RE: GPW v5 6 player - Ger+Sov Souther Theater - 4/23/2008 1:29:13 AM   
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[AGS Turn 8 - mid July 41]

1st Pz Armee pushes north while the trailing 3rd Romanian takes the airfield north of Cherkassy and digs in at the bridgehead.

Farther south 11th Army stares at the huge soviet defenses on the east riverbank. :(




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RE: GPW v5 6 player - Ger+Sov Souther Theater - 4/23/2008 1:55:03 AM   
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[Turn 8 - Romanians]

Romanian 4th Army takes Perakop and swings northeast along the coastal road.




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RE: GPW v5 6 player - Ger+Sov Souther Theater - 4/23/2008 1:57:18 AM   
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[Turn 9 AGS - early August 41]

6th Army is unable to mount an attack on the fortified suburbs of Kiev. Meanwhile 17th Army slogs along still trying to reach Cherkassy - I should have used some strategic movement to get them forward but didn't think about it at the time.

1st Pz Army makes rapid progress north and nearly cuts the road from Kiev to Kursk - the last lifeline for supplies to get into Kiev.




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RE: GPW v5 6 player - Ger+Sov Souther Theater - 4/23/2008 1:59:39 AM   
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[Turn 9 - Romanians - early August 41]

11th Army is shelled by lots of Soviet artillery positioned east of Dnepropetrovsk - preparations are cautiously made for a crossing west of the city.

Meanwhile Romanian 4th Army continues along the Azov coast toward Melitopol and probes into the Crimean.




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RE: GPW v5 6 player - Ger+Sov Souther Theater - 4/23/2008 2:11:38 AM   
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[Turn 10 - AGS]

The encirclement of Kiev is finally complete. 17th Army joins the party at long last - crossing the Dniepr northwest of Cherkassy. 1st Pz Army hides in the forests east of Kiev since by this time the Soviets have gained air dominance. The Romanian air force has lost I think every single fighter that it owns. There are some surviving Luftwaffe fighters but they are grounded until more fighters can be built and brought to the front to contest the air again.




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RE: GPW v5 6 player - Ger+Sov Souther Theater - 4/23/2008 2:14:42 AM   
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[Turn 10 - Romanians]

11th Army is able to cross the Dniepr northwest of Dnepropetrovsk. They face withering Soviet artillery fire but a tenuous bridgehead is formed despite heavy losses. Soviet and Axis air is all concentrated around Kiev so little air support is available for either side.

Farther south Romanian 4th Army is clearly going nowhere around Melitopol so a few divisions probe further into the Crimea.




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RE: GPW v5 6 player - Ger+Sov Souther Theater - 4/23/2008 4:21:48 PM   
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Soviet Perspective, round 7

Trying to hold Kiev, Dnjepr Line, Sevastopol and Kerch.
Enemy Panzers are bound to cut off Kiev.




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RE: GPW v5 6 player - Ger+Sov Souther Theater - 4/23/2008 4:24:14 PM   
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Soviet Perspective, round 8

Enemy Panzers will cut of Kiev for sure now. Lot of infantry divisions are taking up positions to form a ring.

We will let our forces be encircled and keep Kiev production in our hands as long or possible. Supply is not an issue for this "Kessel" since Kiev is one of our two arrival hexes.





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RE: GPW v5 6 player - Ger+Sov Souther Theater - 4/23/2008 4:25:24 PM   
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Soviet Perspective, round 9

Kiev is as good as encircled, but forces there remain intact.
Dnjepr Front is holding.




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RE: GPW v5 6 player - Ger+Sov Souther Theater - 4/24/2008 1:48:47 AM   
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Hang in their vic!

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