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Great War AAR - from Austria/Turkish perspective - 2/7/2008 7:12:06 PM   
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We started a Great War scenario with 4 players:
[Russia/Serbia/Romania] Yoggi75
[Germany] - 03-walk-alot
[West/Italy/Greece] Lars (Lomyrin)
[Austria/Turkey/Bulgaria] - jjdenver

The General Central Powers strategy is this:
1) Defend against Russia - although Germany will seize Warsaw early
2) Have Germany give 40 PP to Austria early to upgrade infantry quickly since Austria has tons of Infantry
3) Germany focuses on The West to take Paris hopefully before Italy can enter
4) Austria focuses on Serbia to knock them out and open up the Balkans for Ottomans
5) Preserve all navies as a threat in being

I've played an earlier game as Germany (not AH/Turkey) and was shocked at how badly things went for Austria and Turkey so I was really eager to give it a shot and see why Turkey and Austria have so many problems - we'll see.....

Here is Austria at end of Turn 1




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RE: Great War AAR - from Austria/Turkish perspective - 2/7/2008 7:15:01 PM   
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[AH T2]
Turks build up and move forces into Syria in prep for an attack on Egypt - meanwhile Austrians skirmish w/ Russia and begin to encircle Serbia.




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RE: Great War AAR - from Austria/Turkish perspective - 2/7/2008 7:16:12 PM   
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[AH T3]
Austria is forced back to its main defensive line while Turks continue to move forces toward Egypt.




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RE: Great War AAR - from Austria/Turkish perspective - 2/7/2008 7:17:07 PM   
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[AH T4]
Austria engages in artillery battles w/ Russia and continues to slowly put Serbia in a vice.






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RE: Great War AAR - from Austria/Turkish perspective - 2/7/2008 7:18:30 PM   
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[Turks T4]
Turkey has in secret prepared an invasion of Crimea and this turn launches it, catching the Russians unprepared. A sour taste is left in the Turks mouths though as the majestic Turkish fleet is absolutely crushed in an attack on the Russian Black Sea fleet. :(




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RE: Great War AAR - from Austria/Turkish perspective - 2/7/2008 7:20:52 PM   
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[Turk T5]
Turks consolidate their hold on Crimea.





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RE: Great War AAR - from Austria/Turkish perspective - 2/7/2008 7:21:53 PM   
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[Turks T5]
Turkey also launches an offensive in Egypt. Turks are very weak to start and don't have much production so they will be stretched to maintain operations in 2 theatres (3 once Serbia falls and Balkans open up).





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RE: Great War AAR - from Austria/Turkish perspective - 2/7/2008 7:22:52 PM   
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[AH T7]
Turks wipe out last Russians in Crimea and prepare for the building Russian counterattack.




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RE: Great War AAR - from Austria/Turkish perspective - 2/7/2008 7:58:18 PM   
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[AH T8]
Austria finally launches the long anticipated big assault on Belgrade but fails... :(




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RE: Great War AAR - from Austria/Turkish perspective - 2/7/2008 8:23:46 PM   
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[AH T8]





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RE: Great War AAR - from Austria/Turkish perspective - 2/7/2008 8:24:51 PM   
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[Turk T8]
Turks continue their offensive in Egypt - although the West is starting to build up another line around Suez.




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RE: Great War AAR - from Austria/Turkish perspective - 2/7/2008 8:26:39 PM   
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[AH T9]
Belgrade falls to a second assault. Greece, Romania, and Bulgaria enter the war!

On a down note news reaches Austria that the German Kriegsmarine has been destroyed in port. Even worse, Germany secretly informs Russia that things are going poorly on the Western Front. :(




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RE: Great War AAR - from Austria/Turkish perspective - 2/7/2008 8:27:48 PM   
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[Turk T9]
Skirmishing in Crimea but Russian attacks are easily turned away. Meanwhile the offensive in Egypt trudges forward.




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RE: Great War AAR - from Austria/Turkish perspective - 2/7/2008 8:29:47 PM   
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[AH T11]
Austria has formed an HQ Italy, an HQ Greece, and also sends some units into western Romania to support the Ottoman offensive there.

The plan is for Austria to screen Greece with a small army while Ottomans knock out Romania. Austrians will also attempt to move east to prevent Russians from reinforcing Romania.




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RE: Great War AAR - from Austria/Turkish perspective - 2/7/2008 8:30:29 PM   
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[Turk T11]





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RE: Great War AAR - from Austria/Turkish perspective - 2/7/2008 8:31:54 PM   
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[Turk T11]
Turks plan is to surround the Romania capitol, build up artillery, do one massive bombardment then assault from all sides - hopefully this can be accomplished before Russia or Greece can intervene.

Unfortunately the Turks did not have the resources to prepare a large army prior to Romania's entry so this is done on a shoestring budget - as are all Ottoman operations :)




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RE: Great War AAR - from Austria/Turkish perspective - 2/7/2008 8:33:05 PM   
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[Turk T12]





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RE: Great War AAR - from Austria/Turkish perspective - 2/7/2008 11:01:10 PM   
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This is a superb AAR! 

Keep it up, I'm enjoying reading it!


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RE: Great War AAR - from Austria/Turkish perspective - 2/8/2008 12:06:39 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: AZ Gung Ho

This is a superb AAR! 

Keep it up, I'm enjoying reading it!



I agree, well done.
And the general who led the assault on Belgrade? A corporal again?

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RE: Great War AAR - from Austria/Turkish perspective - 2/19/2008 4:45:30 PM   
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[Turn 13]
The Austrian offensive into Italy is really revving up as the Italians take high losses and the Austrians move forward easily.
The mini-offensive into Southern Russia which is really only meant to shield the Turks in Romania seems like it has the potential to turn into an actual offensive.
The Greeks are stronger than expected and the Austrian army there is forced on the defensive.




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RE: Great War AAR - from Austria/Turkish perspective - 2/19/2008 4:46:25 PM   
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[Turn 13]
No real progress in Bulgaria - and the Turks are forced to send an an army to confront the Greeks to prevent them from advancing on Sofia.




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RE: Great War AAR - from Austria/Turkish perspective - 2/19/2008 4:48:07 PM   
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[Turn 14]
The Austrians continue to advance into Greece. You can see in the screenshot the Italian army in the Alps just south of Munich. This offensive should soon pull the Italians there south - freeing up the German army in Munich.




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RE: Great War AAR - from Austria/Turkish perspective - 2/19/2008 4:52:42 PM   
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[Turn 15 Sep 25, 1915]
Austrians in Italy have yet another successful turn, taking Venice (Trieste was taken earlier).

Unfortunately word comes that the French have taken Bonn - things are even worse than I realized for Germany. :(





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RE: Great War AAR - from Austria/Turkish perspective - 2/19/2008 4:54:02 PM   
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[Turn 15, Sep 25, 1915]
Bucharest finally is assaulted after 2 turns of artillery bombardment and falls! The Turks are now free to move on Greece.




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RE: Great War AAR - from Austria/Turkish perspective - 2/19/2008 4:59:40 PM   
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[Turn 16 Oct 25, 1915]

The Italians pulled their troops out of the Alps last turn but it does no good as the Austrians cross the Po into Bologna and send a column marching toward Turin. Italy is in great danger.

Austrian high command received a shock - when the turn came from Germany there was a note that the bridges into Austria are exposed. On looking at last turn's map I should have realized that the Cracow bridge in southern Poland was vulnerable last turn but I didn't think it serious. All available transport is used this turn to send troops toward Cracow and also toward Prague to defend Austrian production and river lines.

A difficult decision is also made to pull out of southern Russia. This is in part because the Russians are now threatening Prague and the entire Austrian norther border- but also because a turn or two ago forward Austrian units got a glimpse of some very strong Russian armies waiting for them - so I don't think it would be possible to advance quickly to Kiev anyway.





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RE: Great War AAR - from Austria/Turkish perspective - 2/19/2008 5:00:34 PM   
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[Turn 16 Oct 25, 1915]
The Turks march south into Greece in strength.




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RE: Great War AAR - from Austria/Turkish perspective - 2/19/2008 5:01:39 PM   
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[Turn 16 Oct 25, 1915]
Here is a shot of Austrian casualty and kill totals to date. They are very favorable.





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RE: Great War AAR - from Austria/Turkish perspective - 2/19/2008 5:05:24 PM   
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[Turn 17]

Germany sends a screenshot of the situation. Because of the absolutely horrible situation pictured here, the decision is made that we will sue for peace - there is no chance with Germany in this much trouble - even if Italy is conquered there is no way to come back from this.

Overall I can't imagine ever doing better with Austria and Turkey - this was I think a best case scenario for these countries as they had success everywhere they went - only being thwarted in Egypt by a massive Brit build-up.

At the end Austria is about to conquer Italy I think, is holding its own vs Russia.
Turks still hold Crimea, are in good shape in Egypt, conqured Romania, and are probably going to be able to conquer Greece. Still all of this is small stuff compared to the impending fall of Germany.

It was a fun game and I think all involved learned a lot. This was Germany's first time playing this tough scenario so I think he is ready for another go as it's not easy to bear the burden of playing Germany for the first time.

FYI - production at end: Allies 110,000 Central: 90,000

See my AAR as Germany for another point of view from a different game where Germany had ridiculous success.
http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=1689320




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RE: Great War AAR - from Austria/Turkish perspective - 2/20/2008 5:19:44 AM   
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 I hadn't given any serous thought of playing this scenario until I read this AAR. I think I will have to give it a try.

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RE: Great War AAR - from Austria/Turkish perspective - 2/20/2008 6:12:03 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: IRONCROM

I hadn't given any serous thought of playing this scenario until I read this AAR. I think I will have to give it a try.


Glad you liked it - I think it's a crazy fun scenario - see my German AAR (game still ongoing) for another perspective.

The biggest thing to get used to is the power of counter-battery artillery fire (which I think needs to be toned down a little) - but once you develop strategies and doctrine to deal with this you will be fine. I won't lay them all out here because I have to keep some tactical secrets so that everyone else can go through the agony of discovery too lol. ;)

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