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Italy still neutral in fall 1941 ? - 12/31/2007 12:59:13 PM   
boudi

 

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I'm playing a PBEM game with 3 other players.

We are surprised that Italy still neutral in fall 1941.

Vichy was created during spring 1940, so the event was checked 6 times (summer 1940, fall 1940, winter 1940, spring 1941, summer 1941 and fall 1941).

The statistical probability that Italy still neutral in fall 1941 is 0.25^6=0,00024 : it's impossible.

Please help us.

Thank you very much.
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RE: Italy still neutral in fall 1941 ? - 12/31/2007 9:38:33 PM   
christian brown


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Status: offline 		Are you all using the same version of the game?

Anything unusual happen? ex: German attacks against Axis leaning or Pro-Axis minors?
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Please provide detail, the scenario you describe defies explanation......clearly, there may be something going on here..........seems like something askew with game play or version incompatibility - NOT a bug.

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RE: Italy still neutral in fall 1941 ? - 1/1/2008 11:06:30 AM   
boudi

 

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And first one, happy new year !!

My game is patched 1.011, i will ask to others players.

The game was classic, without surprise. Germany invaded (in order) Poland, Low Country, Norway, France. When Vichy was created, Italy still neutral. No other neutral country was invaded. And Barbarossa in spring 1941. Me, as japan, i just occuped the coastal region of China, and of course, i attacked Pearl Harbor in fall 1941.

The most surprising, that's no event fired during our game. the political event screen is empty. Very strange.

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RE: Italy still neutral in fall 1941 ? - 1/1/2008 7:32:04 PM   
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ORIGINAL: boudi

The most surprising, that's no event fired during our game. the political event screen is empty. Very strange.


If that's that case it's sounds like a corrupt save or game data file. Had the same thing happen to me while making UV2.0. I need not go into specifics to explain why, but I think you should just delete your current copy and reinstall then patch up. And I think you should just scrap your current game and start over. Before you start could if you want run through a few AI turns to see if the events are triggering. Use ctrl p to pause and ctrl r to resume.

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RE: Italy still neutral in fall 1941 ? - 1/2/2008 12:46:04 AM   
boudi

 

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Status: offline 		All players plays with 1.011 patch. We started a new game, same players with same country, all is fine, italy join Axis in summer 1939.

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RE: Italy still neutral in fall 1941 ? - 1/2/2008 1:55:25 AM   
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Status: offline 		That's odd..............IIRC Marshall Art or Boerwar mentioned a similar occurrence

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italy join Axis in summer 1939.

recently.

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RE: Italy still neutral in fall 1941 ? - 1/2/2008 1:10:32 PM   
boudi

 

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Status: offline 		No it's a mistake, Italy still neutral. it was impossible, western France must be occupied for Italy join Axis.

The events list screen is a little bit hard to read.

Why sentences in black, why sentences in red ? The manual explain just "Items that have not yet occurred are grayed out"

I don't see anything grayed out.

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EDIT : sorry, answer found in the 1.011 readme : "


10) GUI improvement - the Political Event screen is enhanced. Color coding of events is changed: RED can happen now (prerequisites are satisified), BLACK hasn't happened yet and can't happen right now (could happen later), GREY has already occurred and will not occur again. (Note black and grey are swapped from previously). There is now an explicit indication of the current probability of an event if it is dependent on region ownership (i.e. the Spanish coup).



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RE: Italy still neutral in fall 1941 ? - 1/5/2008 9:37:41 AM   
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RE: Italy still neutral in fall 1941 ? - 1/5/2008 4:20:30 PM   
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ORIGINAL: christian brown

That's odd..............IIRC Marshall Art or Boerwar mentioned a similar occurrence

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italy join Axis in summer 1939.

recently.


I think you may be referring to the Lightning game that Lebatron and I are playing. Italy joined immediately in Winter 1940 which is early (and very nice if you are Germany), but it was in reaction to the fall of France, so nothing out of the ordinary.

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