From: Cologne, Germany
Well, I read somewhere that most were rather Btl than Kp.
Now this really made me curious, so here's a complete list of ALL VGDs ever established or projected, and I'll add a Btl- or Kp-indicator, according to what I've found so far in the Lexikon der Wehrmacht. Some unit-pages in the Lexikon look a bit sparse, and the Lexikon may not cover all Füsilier-units, and not all cases where and if a Kp had been expanded to a Füsilier-Btl in late '44:
9:none (This was the 9th Infantry Division, which was destroyed in the Southern Ukraine in August 1944. The unit was dissolved, and the [few] remaining troops used to form the 9th VGD. While the 9th Infantry Division HAD a Füsilier-Btl [until August 1944], the 9th VGD didn't, well - according to the Lexikon. Feldgrau indicates the same. I'll check Scherzers for this unit, I ordered the 9th VGD Gliederung, just out of curiosity.
22:none (doesn't count, as this was the 22. (LL) Inf Div. that had been renamed to 22. VGD in March 1945). This unit's Aufklärungs-Abteilung was also kept and renamed to "Panzer-Aufklärungs-Abteilung 22", which then had 1 Panzerspäh-Kp., 2 Krad-Kp., a Volkswagen-Kp. (whatever that means) and a schwere Kompanie.
349:Btl (Btl established in Oct. '43, but then destroyed in the Northern Ukraine - July 44, re-established as Kp. in Nov. 44)
563:none then Btl (this Division's Grenadier-Regiment 1147 was dissolved and all of its troops used to form the Füsilier-Bataillon 1147)
All of the following VGD-units in the 500-range were projected to be established (and in the process of forming), but were then renamed or used to form other units:
564:none (renamed to 183. VGD on 15th September 1944)
565:none (renamed to 246. VGD on 15th)
566:none (renamed to 363. VGD on 17th of September, which then received a Kp.)
567: establishing canceled on 2nd September, troops used to establish the 349. VGD [listed above] instead, as replacement for the destroyed 349. Infantry Division)
568:none (established on 25th of August '44, renamed to 256. VGD on 17th of September)
569:Btl (renamed to 361. VGD - 17th Sept. '44)
570:Btl (renamed to 337. VGD - 15th Sept. '44)
571:none (renamed to 18. VGD - 2nd September 44)
572:none (renamed to 340. VGD - 4th September '44, which then received a Kp)
573:none (renamed to 708. VGD - 4th Sept '44, which then rec. a Btl)
574:none (renamed to 277. VGD - 4th Sept. '44, which then just rec. a Kp)
575:none (renamed to 272. VGD - on 4th, Kp)
575:none (ren. to 271. VGD - 17th, Kp)
577:none (-> 47. VGD - 17th, Kp)
578:none (-> 212. VGD - 17th, Kp)
579:none (-> 326. VGD - 17th, none)
580:none (-> 276. VGD - 17th, Kp)
581:none (-> 352. VGD - 21th Sept '44, Btl)
582:none (-> 26. VGD - 17th, Kp)
583:none (-> 62. VGD - 22nd, none)
584:none (-> 9. VGD - 13th October '44, none)
585:none (-> 167. VGD - late October, Kp)
586:none (-> 79. VGD - 27th October, none)
587:none (-> 257. VGD - 13th October, none)
588:unknown (-> 320. VGD - 27th October, Kp)
Ok, we've got 21 VGD that had a Füsilier-Btl. and 23 VGD (if I did my math right) that had a Füsilier-Kp only. Chances are that there were more Btl, though, as the Lexikon doesn't seem to cover (all) cases where Kp. had been expanded on the "Kommandeweg". Still, that's not "most", so the bit I've read somewhere seems to be off. All right, it's nice to learn something new.
.... However, with only nine numbered Füs.Rgter in WWII, it's hard to speak of a 'vast majority'.
Ok, how many unnumbered Füsilier-Regiments were established in WW2?
(2 Bns, the first 3 [of 5] Kp of each Bn were bicycle-Coys. While being subordinated to the Panzerkorps Großdeutschland initially, it was committed as subordinate of the Panzer-Grenadier-Division Großdeutschland)
(subordinated to the XXIV. Panzer-Korps as Korps-troop)
So, if you have 9 numbered Regiments and 4 unnumbered Regiments, then it's safe to say that the "vast majority" (ie. 70%) was numbered.
In other words, if in a national plebiscite 70% of the people vote for Matrix to be the only source for wargames, then Matrix could indeed say that the vast majority had voted for them. If a politician would get 70% of the votes, then you'd prolly need a surgeon to get the smile out of his face. Agree?
< Message edited by GoodGuy -- 3/23/2010 10:14:23 PM >
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