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Terrain map? - 12/8/2007 1:15:30 AM   
Warhorse


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Status: offline 		Hey all, it's been a verrrrrryyyy long time since I visited here, and I'm truly sorry, but I can't get the old girl to work anymore, it usually crashes out within a few minutes of gameplay, so I've been playing/modding the campaign series for the last 3-4, 5? years!! I have a question though, does anyone have, or know of a map of all the terrain shp files, so that one can find trees, or the walls, etc.? I have the Bible, but that is only the custom terrain, I need something that tells what each of the terrain shp files contain. Is there such a beast? Thanks in advance!

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RE: Terrain map? - 12/8/2007 2:26:37 AM   
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Status: offline 		Damn good to see you, Mike!!

Tracer may have something made up (I am assuming the Bible you have was the one he worked up awhile back). He was doing alot of work awhile back on them, so he may be the guy.

Very good to hear from you. Don't be a stranger!




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RE: Terrain map? - 12/8/2007 2:29:24 AM   
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Try here - www.spwaw.com/downloads/IconBible2006.zip

It was last updated (by Tracer) 7/06




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RE: Terrain map? - 12/8/2007 3:04:51 AM   
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Status: offline 		Hey Goblin!!! Thanks very much for the link, still not exactly what I'm after, but is an update to what I had! I wish I could get this game to co-operate, maybe I'll try it again soon, see if my machine will behave, I've gone through some changes with it, who knows!?

I remember years ago when for awhile, your posts always had-"A Goblin..(followed by various phrases)", used to crack me the hell up, real good to hear from one of the old-timers, I'll try not to be so distant!

Best regards all,

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RE: Terrain map? - 12/8/2007 3:06:30 AM   
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Status: offline 		Here's a simple list of the Terrain files and what they contain; I made this up a few years ago, when I was doing some editing of the terrain for the first Enhanced Mod.

File contains:
(Mod means a file that I made some changes to for the Enhanced Mod)

SPWAW TerSHP Files (* indicates Mod file)

File Name Terrain Type

Ter00 * Summer Mixed
Ter01 * Summer Mixed Slopes
Ter02 * Summer Rough
Ter03 * Summer Rough Slopes
Ter04 * Green Crops
Ter05 Swamp
Ter06 Streams
Ter07 Summer/Rough High Grass
Ter08 Summer/Rough High Grass Slopes
Ter09 Summer Trees
Ter10 Winter Mixed
Ter11 Winter Mixed Slopes
Ter12 Winter Rough
Ter13 Winter Rough Slopes
Ter14 Sand Dunes
Ter15 * Sand Dunes Slopes
Ter16 Winter Swamp
Ter17 * Winter Plowed Fields
Ter18 Desert Rough
Ter19 Desert Rough Slopes
Ter20 * Desert Mixed
Ter21 * Desert Mixed Slopes
Ter22 Water
Ter23 Red Hex Marker/Retreat Flags
Ter24 Roads, Rails, and Bridges
Ter25 Alt Roads, Rails, and Bridges (better)
Ter26 Single-Hex Wooden Buildings
Ter27 Single-Hex Stone Buildings
Ter28 Pavement-Concrete
Ter29 Multi-Hex Industrial 1 Buildings
Ter30 Winter Trees
Ter31 Palm Trees
Ter32 Smoke & Fire
Ter33 * Wheatfield
Ter34 Desert Streams
Ter35 Rice Paddy
Ter36 Canals
Ter37 Gullies
Ter38 Summer Orchard
Ter39 Winter Orchard
Ter40 * Vineyard
Ter41 Mud/Sand Depression
Ter42 Stone Walls
Ter43 Hedges
Ter44 Winter Hedges
Ter45 Bocage
Ter46 Trail
Ter47 Cliff
Ter48 Pavement-Sandstone (only solid hexes)
Ter49 Pavement-Cobblestones (only solid hexes)
Ter50 Multi-Hex City Buildings
Ter51 Multi-Hex Residence Buildings
Ter52 Coral Reef
Ter53 Pavement-Desert Cobblestone
Ter54 Desert Stone Walls
Ter55 Trenches
Ter56 * Plowed Fields
Ter57 * Marsh
Ter59 Multi-Hex Buildings (unusable)
Ter60 Multi-Hex Wooden Buildings
Ter61 Multi-Hex Industrial 2 buildings
Ter62 Black Sand
Ter63 Rocks
Ter64 Boulders
Ter65 Desert Orchard
Ter66 * Polder
Ter67 Summer Graveyard
Ter68 Winter Graveyard
Ter69 Desert Graveyard
Ter70 Jungle Mixed
Ter71 Jungle Mixed Slopes
Ter72 * Jungle/Rough Rough
Ter73 * Jungle/Rough Rough Slopes
Ter74 Jungle High Grass
Ter75 Jungle High Grass Slopes
Ter76 * Rough Mixed
Ter77 * Rough Mixed Slopes
Ter79 Stony Beach
Ter80 Single-Hex Rowhouses
Ter81 Multi-Hex Rowhouses
Ter82 Single-Hex Wooden Building (Use-2)
Ter83 Single-Hex Stone Buildings (Use-2)
Ter84 Multi-Hex Stone Buildings (Use-1)
Ter85 Multi-Hex Stone Buildings (Use-2)
Ter86 * Custom Terrain (overlays)
Ter90 Mega-Campaign Terrain (overlays)

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RE: Terrain map? - 12/8/2007 3:11:59 AM   
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Status: offline 		I see what you were after now, Mike - my bad.

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RE: Terrain map? - 12/8/2007 3:41:05 AM   
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Status: offline 		Excellent Flashfyre!!! Thank you very much, I had known all this back when I was helping to develope SPWAW, but that was many hard-drives ago, I fear most of that info is gone, although I think somewhere there is one of the very first renditions of WAW, right after we converted it from Steel Lightning!!!

Goblin, no problem, thank you very much for the help none-the-less!!

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RE: Terrain map? - 12/8/2007 10:36:37 AM   
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RE: Terrain map? - 12/8/2007 3:31:13 PM   
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Status: offline 		Thanks Korpraali V! Last night I tried SPWAW again, this time turning off ZoneAlarm firewall, and it worked!! Don't know if it's just a fluke or what, but would be nice to be able to play it again, I really miss it.

Mike


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RE: Terrain map? - 12/8/2007 4:32:05 PM   
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Status: offline 		Good to hear that it worked. The latest version in use is 8.403 with Enhanced DV or DVRN Mod. More here: http://spwaw.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=15892





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RE: Terrain map? - 12/8/2007 4:32:16 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Warhorse

Thanks Korpraali V! Last night I tried SPWAW again, this time turning off ZoneAlarm firewall, and it worked!! Don't know if it's just a fluke or what, but would be nice to be able to play it again, I really miss it.

Mike


Now go download Enhanced!! since you helped out on it waaay back when

Links are up above here on this forum
http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=1582274
How ya been dude?!


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RE: Terrain map? - 12/8/2007 9:13:33 PM   
Warhorse


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Status: offline 		Korpraali, yes, I think maybe some practice will be good, something small perhaps? If you know of a Finn vs Soviet smaller scenario, I will play Soviet, be nice, it's been a loooooong time! My addy is chevyss65@dejazzd.com.

Alby, good to hear from you also!! I'm downloading the latest enhanced now, hopefully my machine will co-operate and continue to let me play! I'm doing well, helping now to develope some Campaign Series stuff, and continueing work on my Korean War Mod for that Series.

Mike


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RE: Terrain map? - 12/8/2007 9:37:55 PM   
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Status: offline 		Mike and I have been working on some things with the Campaign Series and it is a fun game at that level.

Steel Panthers is still the game that I compare all the others to though.

I just wish there was an isometric view in a Steel Panthers type game. I'm not sure if Squad Battles is it (some of that series has 3D isometric view).

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RE: Terrain map? - 12/8/2007 10:33:18 PM   
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Status: offline 		Mike, I'll send you something within couple days.



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Steel Panthers is still the game that I compare all the others to though.

Are there other possibilities to compare games?

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RE: Terrain map? - 12/9/2007 7:34:31 PM   
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Status: offline 		Sounds good Korpraali!!

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RE: Terrain map? - 12/23/2007 6:14:57 AM   
tracer


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Status: offline 		Mike!! Long time, no see!

You prolly don't remember, but you're the guy that explained the basics of working with icons to me (circa '01)!

That list that Flash posted (and in-depth info about SHPs, and working with Fred Chandla's SP tools) can be found in RockinHarry's SP-Design Guide: download it here.

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RE: Terrain map? - 12/23/2007 6:26:28 AM   
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ORIGINAL: junk2drive

I just wish there was an isometric view in a Steel Panthers type game. I'm not sure if Squad Battles is it (some of that series has 3D isometric view).


That sounds like Combat Mission ...Wild Bill worked on that game (he's listed in the credits as 'Lead Tester/Scenario Author'), as well as a few others from the original SPWAW-crew.


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RE: Terrain map? - 12/23/2007 6:32:33 PM   
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Status: offline 		Hey Jim!! Yessir, it's been a long haul, but a very good one! A lot of fond memories getting WAW into what it is today, and hey, I can even play it now!! Time to dust off the Mega Campaigns...Yeah Baby!!

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RE: Terrain map? - 12/23/2007 9:01:48 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Warhorse

Hey Jim!! Yessir, it's been a long haul, but a very good one! A lot of fond memories getting WAW into what it is today, and hey, I can even play it now!! Time to dust off the Mega Campaigns...Yeah Baby!!

Mike

Mike , ther are 2 mods for Lost Victories and Desert Fox, which use the updated Icons and Terrain files at the enhanced site.
also almost all but maybe one or two of the original campaigns have been updated for Enhanced, you can find them at the Enhanced site, also look for the "Enh scen and campaign pack" that nox created. it has 99 scenarios and 19 camapaigns I think




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RE: Terrain map? - 12/24/2007 4:45:38 AM   
Warhorse


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RE: Terrain map? - 12/24/2007 5:27:57 AM   
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RE: Terrain map? - 1/10/2008 11:00:33 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Warhorse
I have a question though, does anyone have, or know of a map of all the terrain shp files, so that one can find trees, or the walls, etc.? I have the Bible, but that is only the custom terrain, I need something that tells what each of the terrain shp files contain.


Just a thought, but if what you're after is 'compilation' of all the individual icons, you could use the 'save collage as BMP' button in Fred's ShpEd program to create such a set. That's how I extracted all the building and custom-terrain pics for the Icon Bible. By selecting the smallest images (zoom-level 1, or Terxxz1.shp*), the collages for most of the terrain SHPs will 'fit' onto 1 or 2 BMPs (which can then be converted to GIFs or PNGs to save disk-space). If you plan to 'number' the icons, keep in mind that SPWAW labels the first icon in each SHP as zero, while ShpEd begins with one.


I just remembered that I have 'inventory' images for several of the terrain-SHPs not included in the Icon Bible, so its possible I may have what you're looking for. Send a PM and I'll be glad to help out.



*Some of the terrain SHPs also have a z0 file which contains thumbnail-sized (very small) pics of the icons. While these allow the entire contents of the SHP to be viewed on a single collage, the displayed images may be too small to discern in some instances. Attached is the collage for Ter31z0.shp (palm trees). Note: I cropped the 'empty' areas, and converted the image (from a 1.18MB BMP to a 'lossless' 4.8KB GIF), but did not change its size.


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