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B-29 Flight Log of Crew # 32 (Tinian) - 12/2/2007 3:21:10 PM   
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I had promised that I would post the flight log contents from a B-29 crew member and was wondering where the most appropriate place for it would be?

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RE: B-29 Flight Log - 12/2/2007 3:26:01 PM   
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I am fine with you posting it right here!

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RE: B-29 Flight Log - 12/2/2007 7:16:40 PM   
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When I was younger I got my hands on my father's flight log from WW2, B-29 out of Tinian, and he hasn't been able to lacate it since. This is the log of one of his crew, the flight engineer, and it'll be his words but I'll not include the people's names. I'll be doing this in installments as it covers a bit of time.

RECORDS OF MISSIONS FLOWN BY CREW # 32 BASED ON THE ISLAND OF TINIAN OF THE MARIANA ISLANDS DURING WW2, 1945, ASSINGED TO THE 313th WING OF THE 20th AIRFORCE, 9thBOMBARDMENT GROUP, 99th SQUADRON, B-29 "JAKE'S JALOPY" V53 SUPERFORTRESS, SUPER CREW, LUCKY 11 "ONE OF THE BEST"

The crew of 11 were the following positions:
Radar Operator
Pilot
Airplane CO
Navigator
Bombadier
Engineer
Radio Operator
R Gunner
L Gunner
CFC Gunner
Tail Gunner

Plane 835

April 7, 1945 Nagoya Plane 835

Pin Point Target-Mitsubishi Aircraft Engine Plant
Daylight Formation-Visual bombing- 14 bombs hung up. Dropped 1 bomb on the target. Airplane flying on our left wing received direct hit by flak and went down in a spin-no chutes seen. Shot down one Japanese fighter belived to be a "Nick".
Flak-Heavy and accurate
Fighters-Aggressive

April 12, 1945 Koriyama Plane 835

Pin Point Target-Chemical Plant
Daylight Formation
Visual Bombing
No Opposition
Lead bombadier dropped short of target-hit a bridge across river near the target. The target was 60% destroyed by the 504th.






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RE: B-29 Flight Log - 12/2/2007 7:42:19 PM   
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Very interesting. I assume that the "
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14 bombs hung up. Dropped 1 bomb on the target"
meant that that the plane carried 15 bombs but due to some malfunction only managed to drop 1?

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RE: B-29 Flight Log - 12/2/2007 7:53:18 PM   
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You assume correctly.

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RE: B-29 Flight Log - 12/2/2007 11:36:52 PM   
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quote:

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Very interesting. I assume that the "
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14 bombs hung up. Dropped 1 bomb on the target"
meant that that the plane carried 15 bombs but due to some malfunction only managed to drop 1?


Ohh don't say that. Next thing some of the grogs will want that represented in WitP.

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RE: B-29 Flight Log - 12/3/2007 1:53:28 AM   
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Since my computer isn't functional I've got to sneak time on my wife's so I'll do installments as often as possible.  I remember my father's log had more detailed info including altitudes and the duration of the missions. 

April 15, 1945 Kawasaki (Suburb of Tokyo)  Plane 96

Incendiary Raid-Individual runs at night
Hit very heavy turbulance caused by fires of the burning target.  Gained 1,000 feet altitude in a matter of a few seconds.  Engineer panel shook so violently that it was impossible to read the instruments.  My flak helmet flew off.  Airplane blew a spark plug on take-off causing backfires-went over the target with power pulled back on #3 engine.
Flak-Moderate and very accurate-Search lights
Fighters-None
4 crews shot down.

I think that this is very interesting as it was crews shot down, not planes.  Big difference when you're life is on the line instead of playing a game.

April 18, 1945 Kokubu  Plane 892

Strike at airfields on Kyushu in support of Okinawa Invasion.
Visual bombing
Formation flying
Flak-None
Fighters-Not aggressive

April 21, 1945 Kokubu Plane 835

Second strike at airfields on Kyushu in support of Okinawa Invasion.
Formation flying, Bombing was visual
Flak-Meager
Fighters-Unaggressive

April 26, 1945 Miyasaki Plane 025

Third strike at Kyushu airfields in support of the Okinawa Invasion.
Visual Bombing-Formation flying
Flak-None
Fighters-One fighter made pass.  Gunner couldn't see him because of sun glare.  Fighter came in shooting within 200 yards.

April 30, 1945 Plane 92
Primary target-Tachikawi
Secondary target-Hamamatsu (former instrument (musical) manufacturing) Industrial target
Radar bombing
Flew over primary target-leader did not drop bombs.  Hit secondary target-Hamamatsu which is-or was a propeller mfg. company.
Flak-Moderate
Fighters-Sighted several but not aggressive

I'll try to do May tomorrow.





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RE: B-29 Flight Log - 12/3/2007 7:22:23 PM   
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May 5-6, 1945 Inland Sea Plane 010

Mining Mission
Dropped by radar
Flak-None
Fighters-None
Search Lights-None

May 11, 1945 Miyakonojo Pin Point Target Plane 835

Fourth of a series of raids for Okinawa support
Visual bombing-Carried 1 ton bombs 2055 pounds each
Flak-None
Fighters-None

May 15-16, 1945 Shimonoseki Plane 985

Second mining mission dropped by radar at night.
Under search lights and fire approximately 12 minutes.  Collected 3 flak holes.  Sent a piece of flak home.
Flak-Heavy and accurate
Fighters-None
Search lights-Under lights for 12-15 minutes

May 20-21, 1945 Shimonoseki Plane 98

Third mining mission.  Night run.  Dropped the mines by radar.
A plane crashed on take-off.  One crew member escaped with minor injuries.  Fire truck and personel blew up while attempting to extinguish the fire.
Flak-Meager
Fighters-Nonagressive
Search lights-Seen but we weren't spotted

May 24-25 Toyama Bay Plane 985

Fourth mining mission.  Radar night run.  Very long mission-full wing tanks.  No opposition.
Flak-None
Fighters-None
Search  lights-None

May 26-27, 1945 Toyama Bay Plane 985

Fifth mining mission-night radar run.
No opposition encountered.  Radio oper. sat in astradome during the bomb run for the 1st time.
Flak-None
Fighters-None
Search lights-None

As a foot note I remember my father telling me about how much the crews hated mining missions as 1 lucky shot into the bomb bay and poof a plane was gone.  The planes also were fully loaded and they had a hard time taking off.  The North Field at Tinian ended in a cliff that dropped to the ocean and the B-29s were considered under powered which made for a high rate of Ops loses.


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RE: B-29 Flight Log - 12/4/2007 1:59:01 AM   
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June 1-2, 1945 Osaka Plane 985

Second incendiary raid.
Daylight-Visual bomb run
Smoke rose to 20,000 feet altitude
P-51 escort for first time
Flak-Moderate and accurate
Fighters-Not aggressive

June 5, 1945 Kobe Plane 985

Third incendiary raid on Japan's major cities.
Daylight formation-Huge fires started
Flak-Moderate
Fighters-Ten attacks

June 15, 1945 Osaka Plane 985

Fourth incendiary raid
Ten tenths covered-Made radar run at 21,000 feet altitude
Flak-Moderate
Fighters-None

June 17-18, 1945 Yokkaichi Plane 985

Fifth incendiary raid. 
20 miles south of Nagoya  Visual bomb run
Flak-Moderate
Fighters-None

June 19-20, 1945 Fukuoka Plane 985

Sixth incendiary raid
Night mission-radar bombing-dropped bombs at IAS of 280 mph-first back
Flak-None
Fighters-None

June 26, 1945 Nagoya Plane 985

Pin point target-ten tenths covered-radar run
Dropped bomb which hung up on bomb bay door.  Tied doors up with cables.
Flak-Meagre
Fighters-None
Copied my log over due to mistake.
Exhaust stack worked loose on #4 engine-changed cylinder because exhaust flames had burned ---- (illegible) piece of cylinder head.

June 28-29, 1945 Moji Plane 985

Seventh incendiary raid-ten tenths coverage-radar bombing at night
Flak-Meagre
Fighters-None
Swallowed valve on #1 engine-#5 cyl.  Engines getting close to 350 hours.  Lost very little oil, but noticed continual vibration during flight due to cold cylinder.

The missions ranged from about 8 hours to about double that.  The Japanese were offering little if any resistance but the planes were starting to show the wear of combat missions.  The listed top speed for the B-29s was a # laughed at because they never got close to it.


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RE: B-29 Flight Log - 12/4/2007 2:07:45 PM   
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July 3-4,1945 Himeji Plane 985

Eighth incendiary raid on secondary Jap cities.  Knocking out Japan's home factories.  Near Kobe
Visual bombing run.  4 bombs hung up.  City was 71.4% destroyed.
Flak-Meagre
Fighters-Sighted few no attacks

July 9-10, 1945 Wakayama Plane 985

Ninth incendiary raid 
Visual bomb run
#3 engine blew a cylinder head (#18) approx. 1 hour past Iwo Jima.  Feathered immediately and proceeded to primary target on 3.  Better than 10 hour flight time on 3 engines.
Flak-Meagre
Fighters-None

July 12-13, 1945 Tsuruga Plane 07?

Tenth incendiary raid- ten tenths coverage-radar bomb run.  Night
Flak-None
Fighters-None
First one to return in the group.  Squadron bombadier disgusted with me!  HA!  Correction-sqd. engineer was the disgusted one!

Note:  Command frowned on flying as fast as they did on the return trip.  Maybe they did it as a lark with somebody else's plane?

July 19-20, 1945 Choshi Plane 985

Eleventh incendiary raid.  Eight tenths covered.  Radar bombing at night.  Located on Choshi Point.
Flak-Meagre
Fighters-None

July 24, 1945 Tsu Plane 985

Pin point target-Naval aircraft engine mfg. co.
600 plane raid in combined operation with fleet and Okinawa forces.  1,600 planes over Japan.
Flak-None
Fighters-None
Ninetenths covered
Daylight mission

This mission leads me to believe that the US was trying to convince Japan of the hopeless and helpless situation.

July 28-29, 1945 Uji Yamada Plane 985

Twelvth incendiary raid
Gen. LeMay announced to Japan which cities would be hit.
No coverage-very moon light-could see rivers and mountains plainly
Flak-Moderate to inaccurate
Fighters-None sighted
Searchlights-2 behind us
Crew chief went along
Off loaded to 6,200 gal. fuel for first time.  Landed with 800 gal. reserve.

The US was telling Japan where and the Japanese could do nothing about the raid!  I'll leave August for later and yes the crew was part of the Nagasaki A-bomb raid.  I'll include my father's memories of that mission and the feelings of the men about it. 







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RE: B-29 Flight Log - 12/4/2007 5:19:06 PM   
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WoW, THank you for posting this it is very interesting to read. I was sitting at a pub a few years back for lunch one day and sitting at a table a couple feet away was a couple of older gentelmen who I could not help but over hear, they were two B-29 piolets from the Pacific war, thye induldge me and my questions and one of them presuaded the other to get his medals from the car to show me, aparently the one fellow had one the DFC for bringing back his plane which had lost a couple engines from enemy action, it was an interesting afternoon, I was late getting back to work.

" City was 71.4% destroyed "

Have you by chance seen the documentry "Fog of War" It details Robert Macnamara's carrier, including his time on LeMay's staff, during the show they show a list of scores of Japanese citys and their populations and the percent of destruction, and compare them to US city's to give a feal for the leval of distruction.
  When asked about this Macnamra said that "proportionality should be a part of war."

I do recomend the moive his carier covered a very interesting and intense part of our history, and it was very well done.


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RE: B-29 Flight Log - 12/4/2007 6:41:45 PM   
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Yes, I saw the show you mentioned and most people don't realize that the incendiary raids did more destruction than the A-bombs.  Of course the A-bomb was carried by 1 plane and the damage was devastating so everything is relative.  What always amazed me were the times in the air of these missions and that Japan still resisted when they were helpless before this onslaught.  My father got a DFC also and had the most missions flown for his crew position on Tinian so he was in the first group out at the end of the war.

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RE: B-29 Flight Log - 12/4/2007 7:05:24 PM   
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August 1-2, 1945 Nagaoka Plane ?

Secondary target "Yokosuka"
Thirteenth incendiary raid.  Once again our blows were called before hand.
No coverage-radar run
Flak-Meagre
Fighters-4 seen, no passes made
Search lights-Four

This was an "all-out" effort by 21st B.C.-celebrating air force first time 800 B-29s were over the empire in one raid.  Our sqd. put 17 airplanes up.

August 7, 1945 Toyokawa Plane 985

Precision taget-carrying GP bombs 500 lbs. each.
No coverage-visual run
Excellent results.  Billowing smoke at 10,000
Flak-Meagre to moderate and accurate
One plane in our formation landed at Iwo with a wounded man aboard. 
During this raid the new "Atomic" bomb was announced.

August 10, 1945 Nagasaki Plane 82 (?)

Super-Dumbo for group dropping the "Atomic" bomb.
Oposition-None
Russia declared war on Japan!
Super-Dumbo for group who pioneered "Atomic" bomb
Was given no flimsy for this mission-carried 8,000 gallons of gasoline-used 6,700 gallons.
Loaded with 7,200 rds. of ammunition
Flew to Empire at 9,000 feet altitude
Circled off coast of Kyushu approximately 3 hours waiting for the new "Atomic" bomb to be dropped at approx. 12:00 noon
"Mushroom" of smoke rose to approx. 35,000 ft. in a couple of moments
Watched the rescue of P-47 pilot who was forced to bail out at 12:50 about 40 mi. off coast of Japan.  Navy PBM landed in ocean to perform the rescue.
Returned to base by 15,000 ft. alt. flight time approx. 17 hours.

August 14, 1945 Marizu RR Yards Plane 985

Precision target-carrying GP bombs 500 lbs. each
No coverage-visual run
Flak-None
Fighters-None
This was a max. effort mission (rest of sentence not legible).
Peace declared.

August 20, 1945 Tokyo Power Display Plane 985

This mission was flown soley for the purpose of impressing the Japanese people as to the might of our air force.  As Col. Huglin said to prevent them from dilly-dallying around when MacArthur landed.



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RE: B-29 Flight Log - 12/4/2007 7:14:12 PM   
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Epilogue

My father flew 35 missions over Japan in WW2.  He never talked about his war experiences until the late 1970s.  His only comment to date about the Nagasaki raid was:  There were 5 planes on the mission, 1 weather plane, 2 observation planes (Super-Dumbos), the plane with the bomb and a damage assessment plane.  The crew was told nothing about the "Atomic" bomb and they though it was strange that 1 plane with 1 bomb was going to attack the city.  The crew members were give very dark goggles to wear and told that they should not look at the flash.  When them bomb exploded they were horrified by what they had witnessed.  By the time they had returned to base they wanted an "Atomic" bomb for each plane to level Japan so that the war would end and they could go home.

Never judge another era by the standards of yours as different things dictate what's right and wrong.

I hope that this was informative and enjoyable for you all.


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RE: B-29 Flight Log - 12/4/2007 8:02:33 PM   
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tocaff this is so true and so often forgotten. Thanks for sharing.

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RE: B-29 Flight Log - 12/4/2007 8:43:40 PM   
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Yon can certainly "judge" another eara by the standards of your's thats how we progress, but you can't judge those from that time, they were doing just what they should of been doing. Incenerating hundreads of thousands of people is somthing even Lemay said would of resulted in them being deamed war criminals, someting on his mind no doubt as Numeremburg was about to start up. No one in thier right mind would think to condem the men who risked thier lives in the fighting of the war howeaver, we can wory over the dischions that goverend it's conduct, as we should, and have, thats how were now in a posation whear colateral damage and the targeting of civilians is someting to be avoided at all cost's.

Their was an interesting article in MHQ this quarter about PGM, and how that while their development was thought to forstal the use of military force becuse of their threat, it has actualy lead to the use of military force in more instances becuase it is deamed so surgical politicaly.

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RE: B-29 Flight Log - 12/5/2007 2:43:42 AM   
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When W T Sherman declared that war is hell he knew what he was talking about.  The things that people do in a war are horrible and yet deemed to be neccesary at the time.  I don't think that the bomber crews of the B-29s, or any other planes, dwelled on the fact that they were killing so many people.  Which leads me to question how the Japanese government could allow the war to continue while the people paid such a huge price and had no defense or hope.

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RE: B-29 Flight Log - 12/5/2007 3:58:28 AM   
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Thanks for sharing this - very interesting read.

If I may ask - what was your father's position in the plane? If you mentioned it I missed it.

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RE: B-29 Flight Log - 12/5/2007 5:18:55 AM   
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When W T Sherman declared that war is hell he knew what he was talking about.  The things that people do in a war are horrible and yet deemed to be neccesary at the time.  I don't think that the bomber crews of the B-29s, or any other planes, dwelled on the fact that they were killing so many people.  Which leads me to question how the Japanese government could allow the war to continue while the people paid such a huge price and had no defense or hope.


I think you can only ask that question honestly in 2007. In Japan in 1945, no other course of action made sense culturally -- they would have rather died than lose.

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RE: B-29 Flight Log - 12/5/2007 1:29:05 PM   
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My father served as the radio operator aboard "Jake's Jalopy".  Last night he told me about the Nagasaki raid and mentioned that though the crew was given goggles and told not to look at the flash nobody wore them and they all looked.

The fact that the Japanese were virtually helpless against the air bombardment campaign and so many were being killed made the crew members wonder what kind of people the Japanese were.  They were, of course, very different culturaly than westerners. 


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RE: B-29 Flight Log - 12/5/2007 6:22:25 PM   
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I beleave around 600,000 civilians lost thier lives as a result of bombing, and around 200,000 were from the "A"-bombs, so up till around Auast 6-9 they had acrued aprox 400,000 civilian deaths. Of course as the Fog of War documentrary showed the damage to their infastructure was considerable. This is somewhat misleading though, like in Germany the damage done to the war machine was not quiet as bad as one might think. The real isue for Japan like German was the loss of Oil. Japan unlike Germany though was starving to death, this the result of the ever tighting nuse around her via the Naval blocade, and the Minning campagine virtualy paralised the remaning Metal/Steal hulled merchant marine. Howeaver the 200,000 tons or so of woden hulled merchant ships were not hampered my the influance mines the B-29's droped and were still brining food from the Korean pensulia and Manchuko, the problem was that as I recal the crops were bad that year and even this was not suficient to sustain Japans food neads.
  Stratigic bombing of cittys in WW2 wheather it be in England or Germany or Japan was shown realy to only resolve the peoples of the subjected nations to continue to fight, in fact it realy only strengthed their resolve. Germany totals for the war in terms of cashualtis from boming excape me but I know they were far higher, and after a point their was very little they could do eiter, Figures for Dresdine alone are stagering somthing like 200k from all atacks from the RAF and the USAAF over a few days is what I ahve sean, but I know their are conflicting numbers given the huge number of refugies in the City they likely will never know just how many died.
I dont mean to seam as though I belitiling the loss of life but in Japans case 400,000 deaths priour to the "A"-bomb is realy not all that much, we(USA) lost I beleave around 400,000 combat related deaths, Russia of course lost from 22 to 28 million people during the war depending on your source, which I think the later figure includes the Russian internal ethnic cleansing in the Ukrain.
As noted above given that the civialin deth tole was a lot but not a stagering number given just how big Japans population base realy was, and that the damage to industry was not compleat(just like In Germany), and their cultrial disposation was to fight on till the last man, one wopuld think it would of been a forgone conclushion they would continue to fight. My understanding is that priour to droping of the "A"  bomb in July they were close to Surendering largely becuase of the Aproach to Okinawa and it's capture, and the Oil and Food situation, that coupled with Russias entry and the A Bombs finial made them except uncondational surender.

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RE: B-29 Flight Log - 12/6/2007 6:30:03 PM   
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...  The planes also were fully loaded and they had a hard time taking off.  The North Field at Tinian ended in a cliff that dropped to the ocean and the B-29s were considered under powered which made for a high rate of Ops loses.


Actually saw a shot of this cliff in a History Channel show re the last raid over Japan; it told the story from both the crew of the Boomerang and the IJ perspective; it was very well-done.


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RE: B-29 Flight Log - 12/6/2007 11:15:26 PM   
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The cliff holds a very interesting story that my father told me , which I'll pass on in this thread later.

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RE: B-29 Flight Log - 12/7/2007 12:06:01 AM   
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OK, here it is.

One night my father had a dream, nightmare, that the plane was rolling down the runway and just kept rolling along, but not lifting off.  They reached the end of the runway and of course it's a cliff to the sea and the plane starts to go down.  Needless to say that my father woke up with nicotine in his shorts.  That morning they had a mission to fly and the plane was heavily loaded, mines(?).  They start to roll down the runway and roll and roll and roll, but even though it seems like the plane wants to lift off it doesn't.  Well they reach the end of the runway and the plane starts to settle towards the ocean.  My father, of course, is more than scared as this is his dream from the night before!.  The plane then begins to lift and all is well.  My father rushes to the pilot's position and asked what was going on, to which he got the following reply.  The pilot had a bet with the pilot from their sister crew that he could use the entire runway without mishap. 


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RE: B-29 Flight Log - 12/7/2007 1:37:45 AM   
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that he could use the entire runway without mishap. 


Thank you for sharing this.

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RE: B-29 Flight Log - 12/7/2007 2:35:57 AM   
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If nothing else, that cliff posed a serious psychological barrier; apparently every crew that was stationed at Tinian saw at least one plane that didn't make it off the island.

And if a B-29 wasn't getting up to speed, it couldn't abort its take off because there's was usu. another plane right behind it!

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RE: B-29 Flight Log - 12/8/2007 1:20:27 AM   
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Don't forget that the B-29s went from the drawing board to production and they were ground breaking in many aspects, but the engines left them underpowered.

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