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looking to buy - 6/17/2007 7:27:37 AM   
grahnar

 

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Status: offline 		I am looking to buy this game but I do not want to be disaponted by another unhistorical game. I am a civil war buff who is very active in teaching about the civil war and love Strategy games. can i get some feed back about the game.

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RE: looking to buy - 6/17/2007 8:03:37 AM   
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RE: looking to buy - 6/17/2007 8:04:10 AM   
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Status: offline 		Lot of information in all the threads in this forum, it would be redundant to repeat it all here. Just read thru some of the similar threads and form your own opinion. Main thing I can say about this game is it has the best support of any game I've ever purchased.

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RE: looking to buy - 6/17/2007 8:06:39 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Gil R.

Did you see the thread called "Digging around for a new game"? It was started by someone in the same situation.


edit: Beat by 33 sec. You're as quick as Rasmus? Do you use one finger or two?

grahnar:

Digging around for a new game: http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=1484660

See what I mean by support? Gil is one of the WCS team!


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RE: looking to buy - 6/17/2007 8:09:47 AM   
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RE: looking to buy - 6/17/2007 8:12:53 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Gil R.

Well, I smelled a buck -- that's why I as so fast.



Ah, the greed factor...


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RE: looking to buy - 6/17/2007 10:13:48 AM   
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Status: offline 		This is not a simulation with a cray factoring in all parametors.. what it is simply a fine game, lots of grognardness, not a word but who cares. I am impressed with the level of intricacy in the ecomomic and development model and the awesome ai in detailed combat. Will you like it? that depends a great deal on your expectation and what you like. If you want simple do not get this and perhaps look at AGEOD game on the period, a highly recomended and reviewed game. I think this game is a true winner due to the combination of ecomomic and military growth as wwell as the afformetioned detailed combat model and kick ass ai. my 05 cents worth.

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RE: looking to buy - 6/17/2007 9:04:42 PM   
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Status: offline 		Thanks for the kind words, freeboy.

Does anyone who's played FOF for a while now, who's had a chance to try the various game difficulties, enjoy playing the Basic rules in preference to the other levels?  The Basic rules are fairly free of complexity and we'd rather hoped that some players who wanted a simpler, quicker game might enjoy playing on that level.




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RE: looking to buy - 6/17/2007 9:56:11 PM   
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ORIGINAL: ericbabe

Thanks for the kind words, freeboy.

Does anyone who's played FOF for a while now, who's had a chance to try the various game difficulties, enjoy playing the Basic rules in preference to the other levels? The Basic rules are fairly free of complexity and we'd rather hoped that some players who wanted a simpler, quicker game might enjoy playing on that level.




this game comes with basic rules?

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RE: looking to buy - 6/17/2007 10:14:56 PM   
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RE: looking to buy - 6/18/2007 4:07:54 AM   
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ORIGINAL: ericbabe

Thanks for the kind words, freeboy.

Does anyone who's played FOF for a while now, who's had a chance to try the various game difficulties, enjoy playing the Basic rules in preference to the other levels? The Basic rules are fairly free of complexity and we'd rather hoped that some players who wanted a simpler, quicker game might enjoy playing on that level.




this game comes with basic rules?



If you haven't noticed, the first 111 pages of the manual are the basic rules, after that comes the intermediate rules and then the advanced rules. I am hoping for a rewrite of the manual incorporating all the changes since the updates.

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RE: Manual - 6/18/2007 7:21:53 AM   
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Status: offline 		ok I broke down and bought the game with the digital down load and having the hard copy mailed to my. My question is I cant open the manual. Id there somthing I missed or does it come with the hard copry of the game. I tried finding a post but could not.

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RE: Manual - 6/18/2007 7:28:33 AM   
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ORIGINAL: grahnar

ok I broke down and bought the game with the digital down load and having the hard copy mailed to my. My question is I cant open the manual. Id there somthing I missed or does it come with the hard copry of the game. I tried finding a post but could not.

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Do you have adobe acrobat to open pdf files?

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RE: Manual - 6/18/2007 7:38:56 AM   
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Status: offline 		yes I do but it seems the button to open it will not click. its like the link is not connected

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RE: Manual - 6/18/2007 8:13:44 AM   
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Status: offline 		Try using Windows Explore to go directly to one of the .PDF manuals and double click on one of them. If that doesn't work, you may have a problem with your Adobe Acrobat.




Attachment (1)

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RE: Manual - 6/18/2007 8:17:30 AM   
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Status: offline 		That's odd. Not being one of the tech experts, I can't help with the malfunctioning button, but I can suggest going into the FOF folder in Windows explorer and finding the PDF file inside the "Manuals" subfolder. There will be a file called "FOF-Appendix-[Ebook].pdf" and another called "FOF-Manual-[Ebook].pdf" -- that's all you need.

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RE: Manual - 6/18/2007 8:18:44 AM   
Gil R.


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Status: offline 		Gray_Lensman was even more helpful. That'll teach me to respond to questions...

grahnar, good to see you broke down. I hope you enjoy FOF.

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RE: Manual - 6/18/2007 8:26:49 AM   
Gray_Lensman


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Status: offline 		Also, you might have to update your Adobe Acrobat Reader to a newer version. (though I doubt that is the problem, because I think an older version would have given you an error message). Anyhow, I'm using Adobe Reader v7.07, and it works, but Adobe Reader v8.1 is the latest

see: www.adobe.com

edit: Gil, ever since you guys showed me how to do screen prints and uploads, I am always looking for a chance to show off. Besides a picture is worth a thousand words, right?

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RE: Manual - 6/18/2007 8:31:17 AM   
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Status: offline 		You show off, I'm getting some sleep. (I need to be up bright and early, since in the morning I'm driving a few miles down the road from the hotel I'm sitting in, and visiting Gettysburg.)

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RE: Manual - 6/18/2007 8:36:32 AM   
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Status: offline 		Oh, nice... I was stationed at Bainbridge, Maryland back in 1973 and never got the time to visit Gettysburg . I'm on vacation myself at the moment, but not going anywhere. Instead kids/grandkiddies are coming here on weekends. So I got all week to show off. Enjoy your sightseeing...

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RE: looking to buy - 6/18/2007 8:41:15 AM   
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ORIGINAL: ericbabe

Thanks for the kind words, freeboy.

Does anyone who's played FOF for a while now, who's had a chance to try the various game difficulties, enjoy playing the Basic rules in preference to the other levels?  The Basic rules are fairly free of complexity and we'd rather hoped that some players who wanted a simpler, quicker game might enjoy playing on that level.





In my non-PBEM games against the AI I rather like the intermediate game + Generals. It makes for a fun, uncluttered, but still engrossing experience (I just don't give a hoot about handing out rifles or winter bivouacing).




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RE: Manual - 6/19/2007 1:15:49 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Gray_Lensman

Oh, nice... I was stationed at Bainbridge, Maryland back in 1973 and never got the time to visit Gettysburg . I'm on vacation myself at the moment, but not going anywhere. Instead kids/grandkiddies are coming here on weekends. So I got all week to show off. Enjoy your sightseeing...


"Gray Lensman" -- That's an intriguing handle, so I just have to ask, what is that? Is it a military term or what?

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RE: Manual - 6/19/2007 1:28:43 AM   
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RE: Manual - 6/19/2007 2:00:02 AM   
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ORIGINAL: General Quarters


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ORIGINAL: Gray_Lensman

Oh, nice... I was stationed at Bainbridge, Maryland back in 1973 and never got the time to visit Gettysburg . I'm on vacation myself at the moment, but not going anywhere. Instead kids/grandkiddies are coming here on weekends. So I got all week to show off. Enjoy your sightseeing...


"Gray Lensman" -- That's an intriguing handle, so I just have to ask, what is that? Is it a military term or what?


okay details: OT

Before getting into board gaming, which was way before computers came out, I was an avid reader of Science Fiction, especially Series and Trilogys (sp?) such as "The Foundation Trilogy" by Isaac Asimov and especially the "Lensman Series" by E.E. "Doc" Smith.

The main character in the first few books of the "Lensman" series was called "The Gray Lensman", in fact one of the books was titled "Gray Lensman". Also, ironically, as I've gotten older, I am much grayer and have to wear reading glasses (lenses).

edit: The avatar is a joke to some work buddies of mine that on occasion happen to visit Matrix and the Wargamer forums. We had this supervisor who tried to go into descriptive details of each of us respective workers' characteristics by describing them with a single word. His reference to me was "The Brain" which of course elicited extreme laughter from the entire work group, so when I saw the Avatar, I just had to use it.


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RE: Manual - 6/19/2007 2:40:15 AM   
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RE: Manual - 6/19/2007 2:53:41 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Gray_Lensman

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ORIGINAL: General Quarters


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ORIGINAL: Gray_Lensman

Oh, nice... I was stationed at Bainbridge, Maryland back in 1973 and never got the time to visit Gettysburg . I'm on vacation myself at the moment, but not going anywhere. Instead kids/grandkiddies are coming here on weekends. So I got all week to show off. Enjoy your sightseeing...


"Gray Lensman" -- That's an intriguing handle, so I just have to ask, what is that? Is it a military term or what?


okay details: OT

Before getting into board gaming, which was way before computers came out, I was an avid reader of Science Fiction, especially Series and Trilogys (sp?) such as "The Foundation Trilogy" by Isaac Asimov and especially the "Lensman Series" by E.E. "Doc" Smith.

The main character in the first few books of the "Lensman" series was called "The Gray Lensman", in fact one of the books was titled "Gray Lensman". Also, ironically, as I've gotten older, I am much grayer and have to wear reading glasses (lenses).

edit: The avatar is a joke to some work buddies of mine that on occasion happen to visit Matrix and the Wargamer forums. We had this supervisor who tried to go into descriptive details of each of us respective workers' characteristics by describing them with a single word. His reference to me was "The Brain" which of course elicited extreme laughter from the entire work group, so when I saw the Avatar, I just had to use it.



Perry Rhodan anyone? (He askes as he adds to the topic drift)

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RE: Manual - 6/19/2007 9:21:03 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Gray_Lensman

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ORIGINAL: General Quarters


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ORIGINAL: Gray_Lensman

Oh, nice... I was stationed at Bainbridge, Maryland back in 1973 and never got the time to visit Gettysburg . I'm on vacation myself at the moment, but not going anywhere. Instead kids/grandkiddies are coming here on weekends. So I got all week to show off. Enjoy your sightseeing...


"Gray Lensman" -- That's an intriguing handle, so I just have to ask, what is that? Is it a military term or what?


okay details: OT

Before getting into board gaming, which was way before computers came out, I was an avid reader of Science Fiction, especially Series and Trilogys (sp?) such as "The Foundation Trilogy" by Isaac Asimov and especially the "Lensman Series" by E.E. "Doc" Smith.

The main character in the first few books of the "Lensman" series was called "The Gray Lensman", in fact one of the books was titled "Gray Lensman". Also, ironically, as I've gotten older, I am much grayer and have to wear reading glasses (lenses).

edit: The avatar is a joke to some work buddies of mine that on occasion happen to visit Matrix and the Wargamer forums. We had this supervisor who tried to go into descriptive details of each of us respective workers' characteristics by describing them with a single word. His reference to me was "The Brain" which of course elicited extreme laughter from the entire work group, so when I saw the Avatar, I just had to use it.




If you like Asimov's "Foundation" trilogy, why don't you call yourself "The Mule"?

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RE: Manual - 6/20/2007 3:32:25 AM   
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If you like Asimov's "Foundation" trilogy, why don't you call yourself "The Mule"?



Great, Cool. I might have to seriously consider it, if I ever have to reestablish identity. Probably be taken though, especially now that it is posted. You know there are actually 6 books to that so-called "Trilogy" now. Great Reading. Always wished they had made them into movies like "Star Wars".

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RE: Manual - 6/20/2007 4:38:57 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Gray_Lensman


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ORIGINAL: Gil R.

If you like Asimov's "Foundation" trilogy, why don't you call yourself "The Mule"?



Great, Cool. I might have to seriously consider it, if I ever have to reestablish identity. Probably be taken though, especially now that it is posted. You know there are actually 6 books to that so-called "Trilogy" now. Great Reading. Always wished they had made them into movies like "Star Wars".



Sadly, there are people who probably have no idea about the Lensmen series and you explaining your name to them is their first exposure to it.

....I guess I am getting old.

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RE: Manual - 6/20/2007 6:38:06 AM   
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