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nevermind - 10/14/2006 10:10:38 PM   
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forgot I ever asked about Going Gold

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RE: Going Gold - 10/14/2006 11:38:06 PM   
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Same here.

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RE: Going Gold - 10/15/2006 4:50:05 AM   
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Any idea on when you are going gold?

Need to put the wife on notice and kiss the children good bye.



The way things are going, and how it's been nearly two weeks since the "any day" now proclamation, I'd say your marriage is safe for the next decade or so. Start saving up for college for the kids.


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RE: Going Gold - 10/15/2006 10:28:56 AM   
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IN the name of the believers thx for the optimisim.

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RE: Going Gold - 10/15/2006 5:26:20 PM   
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Hey guys:

Patience! It's only been 3-4 years in the making LOL. I don't think I ever said "any day now" before so we have to be closer than ever! I'm even excited to be posting on the main forum now. You must know that something is coming soon...

Thank you

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RE: Going Gold - 10/15/2006 5:43:28 PM   
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Cant wait to see!

I am checking in in every 5 hours, in hopes of good news.

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RE: Going Gold - 10/15/2006 9:27:00 PM   
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Hey guys:

Patience! It's only been 3-4 years in the making LOL. I don't think I ever said "any day now" before so we have to be closer than ever! I'm even excited to be posting on the main forum now. You must know that something is coming soon...

Thank you



It was this quote (not by you) that led me to believe that EiA was days away:

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We're in the final stages of testing and have a few graphical touch-ups to do then we'll be ready. I'm telling you this because I feel that our release is very close! I cannot tell you in terms of days but our testing is actually ramping down a bit. We're finishing our PBEM testing as we speak.



But no matter. Take the time to get it right. I'll wait for as long as it takes, or until death do me part. :)


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RE: Going Gold - 10/15/2006 10:49:26 PM   
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I'm telling you this because I feel that our release is very close! I cannot tell you in terms of days but our testing is actually ramping down a bit. We're finishing our PBEM testing as we speak.


Alan you seem to have a problem with the understanding of complex english texts.

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RE: Going Gold - 10/15/2006 10:53:10 PM   
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It would be great if it shows in the next month, hopefully before Christmas!!

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RE: Going Gold - 10/16/2006 12:27:25 AM   
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quote:

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Hey guys:

Patience! It's only been 3-4 years in the making LOL. I don't think I ever said "any day now" before so we have to be closer than ever! I'm even excited to be posting on the main forum now. You must know that something is coming soon...

Thank you


Just happy you are back on the boards Marshall

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RE: Going Gold - 10/16/2006 2:43:46 AM   
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I'm telling you this because I feel that our release is very close! I cannot tell you in terms of days but our testing is actually ramping down a bit. We're finishing our PBEM testing as we speak.


Alan you seem to have a problem with the understanding of complex english texts.



No, I don't think so, smart man. In "terms of days" implies pretty soon, when compared to "in terms of weeks", wouldn't you think? And "very close", in America at least, means within a week at least. The phrases "in terms of days" (forget the "cannot" part, as it really doesn't enter into anyone's thinking) and "very close" does appear to mean within more time than two weeks.

But as I said before, I'm a patient person. I'll wait. Still, I had to respond to your post, since you had to be so nasty in your response. You can now return to writing your dissertation.


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RE: Going Gold - 10/16/2006 5:34:48 AM   
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quote:

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Hey guys:

Patience! It's only been 3-4 years in the making LOL. I don't think I ever said "any day now" before so we have to be closer than ever! I'm even excited to be posting on the main forum now. You must know that something is coming soon...

Thank you


Ah, there's that word again...."soon" HaHa...LOL!


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RE: Going Gold - 10/16/2006 7:06:53 AM   
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No, I don't think so, smart man. In "terms of days" implies pretty soon, when compared to "in terms of weeks", wouldn't you think? And "very close", in America at least, means within a week at least. The phrases "in terms of days" (forget the "cannot" part, as it really doesn't enter into anyone's thinking) and "very close" does appear to mean within more time than two weeks.

But as I said before, I'm a patient person. I'll wait. Still, I had to respond to your post, since you had to be so nasty in your response. You can now return to writing your dissertation.


Alanb


Well even though I am not a native speaker there is a difference between any day and terms of days.

Anyway I did not mean to be picky on you, but I have had enough of people popping out of nothing and talking about delays, putting even more pressure on the dev team. IMO negative and unjustified critism can wreak havoc on one's motivation, and this is something we -the players to be waiting since years- dont need at all.



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RE: Going Gold - 11/5/2006 4:32:20 AM   
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Well even though I am not a native speaker there is a difference between any day and terms of days.

Anyway I did not mean to be picky on you, but I have had enough of people popping out of nothing and talking about delays, putting even more pressure on the dev team. IMO negative and unjustified critism can wreak havoc on one's motivation, and this is something we -the players to be waiting since years- dont need at all.



I agree. But "terms of days" does mean within DAYS not weeks nor months nor years. And in this case the criticisms are not unjustified. This is the 4th Christmas in a row that we have had this line fed to us - it's just not flying any more.

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RE: Going Gold - 11/5/2006 8:17:08 AM   
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Hey, theres no need for that kind of a response. Matrix Games doesn't owe you jack. When the game is ready, its ready, and you can plop down your 40 bucks.

Until then, be patient.

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RE: Going Gold - 11/5/2006 9:04:30 AM   
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Anyway I did not mean to be picky on you, but I have had enough of people popping out of nothing and talking about delays, putting even more pressure on the dev team. IMO negative and unjustified critism can wreak havoc on one's motivation, and this is something we -the players to be waiting since years- dont need at all.



LOL this game has been in development for like BLOODY AEONS.

Personally I can remember at least 4-5 times I've seen "any days now guys!" posts on this board, nitpicking about terms aside. OK perhaps it was "any week now!" but considering some of those messages were posted like YEARS ago one is entitled to make jokes I for one laughed out loud at Alan's first remark "your marriage is safe for the next decade or so"

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RE: Going Gold - 11/5/2006 8:44:04 PM   
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With all respect do you want to wait another AEON fro this game to be ready just cuz some smart people laid unnecessary pressure on the publisher and/or the developer? I for my part definitely no.

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RE: Going Gold - 11/5/2006 9:24:46 PM   
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With all respect do you want to wait another AEON fro this game to be ready just cuz some smart people laid unnecessary pressure on the publisher and/or the developer? I for my part definitely no.


Depends on your definition of "unnecessary pressure". I may not know many things about life, but, being a journalist/editor I know a thing or two about deadlines, as we journalists live and die by the deadline

Thus, my advice to the devs is:

a) Pay no attention to any outside pressure (customers, forums etc).

b) Do not give any false hopes and/or promises.

Having observed EiA board for years I must say we visitors were led to believe game is "just around the corner" far too many times through the years (YEARS I said). Again, I am experienced enough to know when to believe to such "announcements" but not all people are. I found Alan's comment to be truely funny.

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RE: Going Gold - 11/6/2006 12:45:53 AM   
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Oleg,

I don;t care whether I agree with you or not, just keep posting as I REALLY like your avatar

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RE: Going Gold - 11/6/2006 4:58:59 AM   
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Let's see, I've been gone for a while and thought this game might have been released by now.
Not to be overly negative, because I will get it as soon as it is released, but any day now can still be a very long time. After all, it has been 4 years.
So this is how I see it, "any week now" has translated into 208 weeks. Therefore, "any day now" will translate into 6 months (just in time for my birthday).

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RE: Going Gold - 11/6/2006 5:00:19 AM   
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Oleg,

I don;t care whether I agree with you or not, just keep posting as I REALLY like your avatar


Hey Oleg!
Who is that in your avatar anyways?

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RE: Going Gold - 11/7/2006 12:16:03 AM   
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Hey, theres no need for that kind of a response. Matrix Games doesn't owe you jack. When the game is ready, its ready, and you can plop down your 40 bucks.

Until then, be patient.


Really? Matrix Games doesn't owe me jack? Are you saying they should be able to blow off their customers and provide no support or accurate info? They should be allowed to lie about things like release dates to the extent that Game Stop will not even carry their games anymore (3 locations told me they could special order them but otherwise they were KMA about Matrix)? Wow, guess you must work for them. If you look at my other posts, I support Marshall for taking over and I feel bad that he has not had better luck in a CS role than he has but he is 1 person and wants to give us EIA and overstates the readiness at times. I do not have any warm fuzzies for Matrix though who has thoroughly botched the handling of this (and several other projects). Most of the devs here are doing good work and will get rewarded for their projects (Some rely on former glory and release crap like World at War). I have even suggested a funding option through investors in the projects. Matrix may not owe me jack, but I am not buying jack from them unless I am absolutely sure it is a good product (most likely just EIA and then never again).

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RE: Going Gold - 11/7/2006 8:46:26 AM   
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Hey guys,

don't forget that the actual 1805-1815 period of the game is 10 years....the Dev team still has 4-5 years of time left!


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RE: Going Gold - 11/7/2006 7:16:26 PM   
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Really? Matrix Games doesn't owe me jack?


The culture of entitlement brings forth another victim.   You know, you should get a grip and get some perspective.   You're complaing about a computer game for christsake.  You might as well be spewing invective that Crest promised you the New Minty Fresh flavor last Christmas and then reneged on it.  

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RE: Going Gold - 11/7/2006 8:57:10 PM   
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Hey, theres no need for that kind of a response. Matrix Games doesn't owe you jack. When the game is ready, its ready, and you can plop down your 40 bucks.

Until then, be patient.


Really? Matrix Games doesn't owe me jack? Are you saying they should be able to blow off their customers and provide no support or accurate info? They should be allowed to lie about things like release dates to the extent that Game Stop will not even carry their games anymore (3 locations told me they could special order them but otherwise they were KMA about Matrix)? Wow, guess you must work for them. If you look at my other posts, I support Marshall for taking over and I feel bad that he has not had better luck in a CS role than he has but he is 1 person and wants to give us EIA and overstates the readiness at times. I do not have any warm fuzzies for Matrix though who has thoroughly botched the handling of this (and several other projects). Most of the devs here are doing good work and will get rewarded for their projects (Some rely on former glory and release crap like World at War). I have even suggested a funding option through investors in the projects. Matrix may not owe me jack, but I am not buying jack from them unless I am absolutely sure it is a good product (most likely just EIA and then never again).


To be fair Gamestop, and EB don't have most titles in the stores any more. They are focused on the console market and have been for a couple of years now. It has little to do with Matrix or other publishers and more to do with the fact that the shelf space gives them a better return when used for console as opposed to PC games. Best Buy has also begun to seriously cut down on their PC game section.

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RE: Going Gold - 11/7/2006 9:00:25 PM   
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Really? Matrix Games doesn't owe me jack?


The culture of entitlement brings forth another victim. You know, you should get a grip and get some perspective. You're complaing about a computer game for christsake. You might as well be spewing invective that Crest promised you the New Minty Fresh flavor last Christmas and then reneged on it.



Crest does not announce the impendmg release of their product 2 1/2 years before actual release.

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RE: Going Gold - 11/7/2006 9:38:26 PM   
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Really? Matrix Games doesn't owe me jack? Are you saying they should be able to blow off their customers and provide no support or accurate info? They should be allowed to lie about things like release dates to the extent that Game Stop will not even carry their games anymore (3 locations told me they could special order them but otherwise they were KMA about Matrix)? Wow, guess you must work for them. If you look at my other posts, I support Marshall for taking over and I feel bad that he has not had better luck in a CS role than he has but he is 1 person and wants to give us EIA and overstates the readiness at times. I do not have any warm fuzzies for Matrix though who has thoroughly botched the handling of this (and several other projects). Most of the devs here are doing good work and will get rewarded for their projects (Some rely on former glory and release crap like World at War). I have even suggested a funding option through investors in the projects. Matrix may not owe me jack, but I am not buying jack from them unless I am absolutely sure it is a good product (most likely just EIA and then never again).


No, they don't owe you anything. The fact that it has been so traumatizing waiting for a historical computer game leads me to suggest that you find a more rewarding lifestyle (get out and meet people maybe), instead of trying to start teenage girl-esque drama on a message board.

Instead of whining and pouting, take action. Don't buy EIA if you care that much about it. Teach Matrix a lesson. More importantly, spare us from your bitching.

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RE: Going Gold - 11/8/2006 4:08:12 AM   
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Like you have time between WitP and beta testing other games to actually PLAY this game when it is released
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Really? Matrix Games doesn't owe me jack?


The culture of entitlement brings forth another victim. You know, you should get a grip and get some perspective. You're complaing about a computer game for christsake. You might as well be spewing invective that Crest promised you the New Minty Fresh flavor last Christmas and then reneged on it.



Crest does not announce the impendmg release of their product 2 1/2 years before actual release.



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RE: Going Gold - 11/9/2006 12:58:00 AM   
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Murat:

...I am not buying jack from them unless I am absolutely sure it is a good product (most likely just EIA and then never again).



I believe success for this product, once released, does not depend on whether or not you buy this or any other Matrix offering. It will sell to long-time fans of the game as well as to computer wargamers looking for an intense new challenge.

I am very patient in waiting for this, because I enjoy playing Empires in Arms over the board. Perhaps if you did that to tide you over, you wouldn't be so negative about this stuff.

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RE: Going Gold - 11/9/2006 3:56:22 AM   
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Like you have time between WitP and beta testing other games to actually PLAY this game when it is released
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Really? Matrix Games doesn't owe me jack?


The culture of entitlement brings forth another victim. You know, you should get a grip and get some perspective. You're complaing about a computer game for christsake. You might as well be spewing invective that Crest promised you the New Minty Fresh flavor last Christmas and then reneged on it.



Crest does not announce the impendmg release of their product 2 1/2 years before actual release.




When does War in the Pacific come out?

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