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Favorite non WWII war movies - 10/1/2006 6:00:54 PM   
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Gettysburg
All Quiet on the Western Front
Waterloo
George Washington(mini-series)
John Paul Jones
The Vikings
We Were Soldiers
Last of the Mohicans(Newest version)


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RE: Favorite non WWII war movies - 10/1/2006 7:18:02 PM   
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Waterloo. Has its faults, but Rod Steiger is a brilliant Nappy, and well worth its place just for the scale of the thing.

Hamburger Hill. Vastly under-rated 'Nam movie. Embarrassingly better than Full Metal Jacket and Platoon, only We Were Soldiers is close.

Gettysburg. About the the best they could have done with the budget, it just needed another 10,000 or so re-enactors! Stephen Lang should have won an Oscar, or an Emmy, or something - astonishing performance as Pickett.




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RE: Favorite non WWII war movies - 10/1/2006 7:57:38 PM   
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RE: Favorite non WWII war movies - 10/1/2006 9:09:03 PM   
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RE: Favorite non WWII war movies - 10/1/2006 9:51:56 PM   
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The Patriot, Mel Gibson, ARW.

When I read the thread title I missed the "war" part and thought of Fritz the Cat. If you are old enough to not remember the sixties you might know the movie.

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RE: Favorite non WWII war movies - 10/2/2006 1:40:13 AM   
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RE: Favorite non WWII war movies - 10/2/2006 2:03:58 AM   
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Zulu


Got to agree with you here. It was the second ever film my Dad took me to watch (first was The Sound of Music )

Just love the music when the Zulus are attacking

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RE: Favorite non WWII war movies - 10/2/2006 8:10:48 AM   
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the only authentic racing movie ever made, and it has McQueen staring to boot.


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RE: Favorite non WWII war movies - 10/2/2006 8:49:23 PM   
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RE: Favorite non WWII war movies - 10/2/2006 9:49:45 PM   
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RE: Favorite non WWII war movies - 10/3/2006 12:07:29 AM   
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Good choices so far.  I'd add "Sparticus" and "Dune".

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RE: Favorite non WWII war movies - 10/3/2006 12:34:34 AM   
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Lawrence of Arabia, great film.
Also liked Doctor Zhivago.
Zulu excellent film. Also liked Shaka Zulu too.
El Cid is an impressive film.
The Patriot I liked a lot.
The Last Samurai is good, not as good as Shogun of course.

Not quite as epic, but Pork Chop Hill and MASH are also good.

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RE: Favorite non WWII war movies - 10/3/2006 11:37:23 AM   
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Glory
Platoon
Full Metal Jacket
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Gettysburg
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to name a few

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RE: Favorite non WWII war movies - 10/3/2006 1:05:27 PM   
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Cold Mountain (Great music ! )
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The Caine Mutiny (Hollywood at it's best IMHO)
Zulu (Now THAT is a movie that I would like Peter Jackson to do a remake)
The Sand Pebbles


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RE: Favorite non WWII war movies - 10/3/2006 3:45:09 PM   
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the only authentic racing movie ever made, and it has McQueen staring to boot.




Lol at this....he said "Favorite non WWII war movies"

I'd say Zulu...also We Were Soldiers

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RE: Favorite non WWII war movies - 10/3/2006 5:55:55 PM   
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The Beast



Forgot how good that one was.

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RE: Favorite non WWII war movies - 10/3/2006 6:42:31 PM   
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RE: Favorite non WWII war movies - 10/4/2006 2:27:44 AM   
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Le Mans

the only authentic racing movie ever made, and it has McQueen staring to boot.




Lol at this....he said "Favorite non WWII war movies"

I'd say Zulu...also We Were Soldiers


It about as non WWII as you could get, what’s the problem. Acually I did not see the "WAR" in the title



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RE: Favorite non WWII war movies - 10/5/2006 8:25:22 AM   
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RE: Favorite non WWII war movies - 10/5/2006 10:29:08 AM   
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For a historical film, it is Gettysburg.

For future war, I'd say Star Wars 1977.

Starship Troopers ruined what was one of my all time favorite books.

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RE: Favorite non WWII war movies - 10/5/2006 12:29:35 PM   
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Glory.

Waterloo.

Hamburger Hill.

Gettysburg.


Darn, Herston took all I was gonna mention...
Although I'll add
Gods and Generals


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RE: Favorite non WWII war movies - 10/5/2006 2:08:56 PM   
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Starship Troopers ruined what was one of my all time favorite books.




Oh man you are so right about that one !


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RE: Favorite non WWII war movies - 10/5/2006 8:29:39 PM   
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RE: Favorite non WWII war movies - 10/5/2006 8:35:17 PM   
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Glory
The Lighthorsemen
Last of the Mohicans
Gettysburg
Zulu
Zulu Dawn
ANZACS (though it's a TV miniseries)
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RE: Favorite non WWII war movies - 10/5/2006 8:51:07 PM   
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RE: Favorite non WWII war movies - 10/6/2006 8:50:01 AM   
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Starship Troopers ruined what was one of my all time favorite books.

That book is more outdated than Star Trek from 1960's. Chauvinism is out of fashion you know

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RE: Favorite non WWII war movies - 10/6/2006 6:52:07 PM   
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That book is more outdated than Star Trek from 1960's. Chauvinism is out of fashion you know


Yes it was so chauvenistic that there was not one co-ed shower in the book. Infact, if you read it carefully what do most of the women aspire too in the Navy? Pilots! Unlike in todays Navy, Marine Corps, and Air Force, which is only a political correctness, they wanted women pilots. Heinlein points out women have the same education as men and they might better biologically suited to be pilots than men. Remember the Character Carmencita and how she was a whiz compared to poor dumb Johny? Anyway, I love the book. I've seen the movie twice, and I am still not sure what the directors vision was.

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RE: Favorite non WWII war movies - 10/6/2006 10:00:31 PM   
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Yes it was so chauvenistic that there was not one co-ed shower in the book. Infact, if you read it carefully what do most of the women aspire too in the Navy? Pilots!

Oh yes, I remember those things. I also remember overflowing praise about their beauty and they were not accepted to M.I.

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RE: Favorite non WWII war movies - 10/7/2006 6:10:58 AM   
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Starship Troopers ruined what was one of my all time favorite books.




Oh man you are so right about that one !


Yep, but "Starship Troopers 2" wasn't half bad actually. That one is a pretty realistic infantry battle with realistic weapons, tactics, and defensive armament with a creepy twist added. It's worth a rental... not on my "best" list by any means, but something I will watch again. I promise, you won't be going "this is so stupid" every 30 seconds like in the first movie.


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RE: Favorite non WWII war movies - 10/7/2006 8:13:39 PM   
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Anyway, I love the book.

I didn't mean to mock book, I have read it and at least detailed descriptions of power suit deserves one point and mention of starship Mannerheim another. Actually there are little common with book and movie. Debating about which one is better will likely lead flame wars like has happened with two TV series which have same name: Battlestar Galactica.

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I've seen the movie twice, and I am still not sure what the directors vision was.

First off, while watching movie, forget book. I saw movie first and heard about book years later. That might be one reason why I enjoyed the movie. Another thing is there aren't many scifi movies which even try show some decent and realistic ground combat. Aliens and Starship Troopers are shining examples here. Star Wars movies lack realism and they are closer Indiana Jones type adventure than war movies. So instead comparing Starship Troopers to other scifi movies or book of same name, compare it to traditional war movies instead.

What comes to vision of the movie, you can start by thinking about first scene of movie All Quiet on the Western Front where some man (teacher I guess) lectures about duty, glory and other reasons to join army. Now recall line from Starship Troopers "Recruiting in schools should be denied by law" or something like that and assume it isn't just coincidence.

Pay attention to details and compare them to history as you know it. Ace Leivy calls Rico as rich kid. On many countries 50+ years ago nobles and rich kids went straight to officer training. Rico's reply is something like it's not about who's rich but who's best. When Rico got administrative punishment, did you notice what kind of guy was on other end of lash? Bronsky! And then is that propaganda stuff. I have seen some finnish propaganda films from time of World War 2 (Finland was in war against Soviet Union) and they have close match. I think all of this can be called satire.

But for me those things were minor points. What I have seen time and again is best scifi war movie ever made. It isn't just blood and pieces of intestine, but when dying on Klendathu starts and squad leader Leivy almost ****s on his pants, it feels more closer, horrible and realistic (duh) than All Quiet on the Western Front where people seem just falling down.


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Yep, but "Starship Troopers 2" wasn't half bad actually.

Really? Some other folks have ranked that below Aliens, including me.

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