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Japanese "dream" defense line - 8/1/2006 1:11:08 PM   
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Hi,
If you could conquer any bases on map (except maybe West Coast) what would you see as a best possible Japanese defence line? Obviously Allies can take any Japanese-held base given enough time even if reduced to West Coast only, but which points should delay them most? Pearl Harbor seems great in this role, in the North I would go for Anchorage, what about others? Share your thoughts fellow gamers
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RE: Japanese "dream" defense line - 8/1/2006 1:12:09 PM   
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Actually, I think Pearl is too far forward and too easy to cut off from supply by submarine. No further forward than Wake for me.

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RE: Japanese "dream" defense line - 8/1/2006 1:41:28 PM   
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Wake is hard to cut off from supply?

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RE: Japanese "dream" defense line - 8/1/2006 1:51:30 PM   
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No, but more difficult than Pearl.

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RE: Japanese "dream" defense line - 8/1/2006 2:14:34 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Terminus

No, but more difficult than Pearl.


Wha?

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RE: Japanese "dream" defense line - 8/1/2006 2:16:28 PM   
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Wake can be covered by long-range aircraft and ships from Kwajalein and Saipan and such places. Pearl is faaaaaaaaaaar out on the end of a very long and very vulnerable SLOC.

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RE: Japanese "dream" defense line - 8/1/2006 2:28:55 PM   
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I agree with Terminus that if you base too far forward you will invite the allied counter attack to cut you off. Both by Submarine and by avoiding your strong points and taking bases behind them.

I don't think Pearl is that crucial for either side. It does not break the chain to Australia as convoys don't usually go by Pearl early on. Nor is it especially crucial as a staging base for the allied counter attack (too far away even from the Marshalls). Tough to take as the Japanese and not a big loss to the allies. Plus the surrounding islands have potentially large airfields on. If the Japanese take it they must guard all these securely or face death by bomber later on. That is a big commitment. And with big port guns it's not something you will seize for a week then leave. Too expensive for that.

I would leave Alaska and the Aleutians alone except as a possible diversion. You have to watch for the allies using the Kuriles though. His Seabees can utilize those islands and build self supporting bases quickly. You cannot afford to have an early threat of invasion to the home islands, nor early bombing of them (even at 'extended range penalties' from the small Kurile bases).

If we are talking about a defence line (rather than a push for 1943 auto victory) then you want to put as much distance between you and the allies as possible. I would say that the historic conquests plus PM & the remains of the Solomons chain is pretty strong.

The allies can only soften you up with long range bomber strikes or by naval means. While the outer bases may get wrecked Timor from North Oz, PM from Cairns/Cooktown, Gilberts from Baker etc.), especially if your allied opponent is a big bomber fan. But there are numerous rear area bases which can still throw aircraft in to any invasion attempts without the bases themselves being vulnerable initially. And most of his LBA is not in the fight when he attacks. It does not have the range.

Attrition battles during 1942 and later tend to favour the allies unless you are getting a very good kill ratio. So putting distance (which takes most of the allied airforce out of the game and hence lowers attrition) is a sound strategy IMHO.

Some Japanese players then recommend periodically attacking out from this line, then withdrawing back after you have killed what you went for. If you can overwhelm some of the large allied LCU formations then you hurt the allies as this is one area which units are relatively hard to replace.

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