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RE: Update info - 5/23/2006 5:37:46 PM   
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two pilots in fact

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| D.J. Scott | 3 |
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| J.R. Cock | 3 |


Desmond James Scott - as of 17Aug43 C/O 486 RNZAF Sqn

John Reynolds Cock - as of 17Aug43 probably flying with 54 Sqn out of Darwin. Returned to UK in 1944 and joined 3 Sqn Sep 44 as either a Flt Cdr or Supernumerary




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RE: Update info - 6/2/2006 3:36:57 AM   
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well lets see how we doing, the old list that I updated a few times, until it got too confuseing




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the Pilot Data Base as of right now holds
1934 US Pilots
655 GB
250 Poles
124 Can
68 Cz
45 NZ
167 Fr
32 Aus
52 Du
14 Nor
24 S.Af

807 GE
175 Ro
64 It
108 Hu


new listing

2051 US
32 Aus
964 GB
131 Can
68 Czech
51 Du
285 Fr
45 NZ
16 Now
250 Pol
18 SA
61 Baz

917 GE
111 It
105 Hun
81 Rom
94 Coax

Coax are the Bulgiran, Croats and any of the other same nations, this way there get there own replacement pool and not drag off of Romy




| Nationality | Count |
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| American | 2327 |
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| Australian | 36 |
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| British | 708 |
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| Canadian | 139 |
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| Co Axis | 94 |
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| Czech | 70 |
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| Dutch | 51 |
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| French | 306 |
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| German | 1120 |
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| Hungarian | 104 |
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| Italian | 111 |
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| New Zealand | 46 |
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| Norwegian | 20 |
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| Polish | 249 |
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| Rumanian | 81 |
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| So.African | 20 |
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| USSR | 1 |
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RE: Update info - 6/3/2006 12:13:00 AM   
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Looking at your list of new / back in aircraft, you include the SAI 207. I believe that 13 pre-production aitcraft were produced. the production order for it (2,000 machines) was superceeded by one for 3,000 SAI 403 but tooling has only just reached the initial stages when the armistice interrupted proceedings. The prototype flew in late '42 which makes it more legitimate to have that fighter producing than the G56, whose first prototype only flew in March '44

Another candidate for possible Italian production would be the MC205N Orione. The MC205N1 first flew in November '42 and the MN205N2 first flew in May '43, again making it in theory more produceable than the G56.

The CV F 5 - 14 pre-production machines in 1940 I believe. The CV F6M had the  Fiat produced DB605A, but pre-production was in '43 under way for the CV F6MZ using the Isotta-Fraschini Zeta, but again only a pre-production batch was being built when the armistice happened.

If we are going back as far as the CV F 5, why not the CR42? Indeed, in fantasy land the CR42B with the DB601. 323mph no less!

For the Hungarians you could have both the Re2000 and the locally built version, the Hejja. The latter actually I believe was once engaged in combat with the USAAF, I think in '44.

< Message edited by daveballmh -- 6/3/2006 12:32:09 AM >

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RE: Update info - 6/3/2006 2:35:33 AM   
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I would like to add the 403, if it lived up to the tests results, that could of been a interesting plane, these are some of the only (Light) planes that really seemed to work the way it was hoped,the Avia also looked like it could of been interesting, if it had been allowed to be developed

the G.56 is not "in" but it may be reseached

the 42 ? , well, I not sure if it is worth adding in a night fighter that pretty much is slower then the bombers it is going to be hunting

I like the 205, but I think the odds are the 55 or 2005 are going to be the ones the Player will go after, if they go after any It Models to keep in production

I had ideas on the Hun fighter, but the AI does not like it :)

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RE: Update info - 7/3/2006 5:19:16 PM   
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Well, lets see how we doing pilot wise


| Nationality | Count |
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| American | 2327 |  2699 2798
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| Australian | 36 | 52 116
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| British | 708 | 949 943
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| Canadian | 139 | 188 187
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| Co Axis | 94 | 127 127
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| Czech | 70 | 70 70
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| Dutch | 51 | 51 52
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| French | 306 | 343 389
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| German | 1120 | 1367 1546
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| Hungarian | 104 | 105 105
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| Italian | 111 | 121 170
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| New Zealand | 46 | 60 59
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| Norwegian | 20 | 79 79
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| Polish | 249 | 252 246
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| Rumanian | 81 | 81 80
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| So.African | 20 | 32 32
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| USSR | 1 | 1 1
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5483/6576 (give or take another 50 that were just added)

well we up to 7000 pilots in the data base

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RE: Update info - 7/16/2006 8:02:47 PM   
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Well, lets see how we doing pilot wise

| Nationality | Count |
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| American | 2327 |  2699 2798  -3123
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| Australian | 36 | 52 116    -116
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| British | 708 | 949 943    -1002
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| Canadian | 139 | 188 187   -187
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| Co Axis | 94 | 127 127    -127
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| Czech | 70 | 70 70   -70
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| Dutch | 51 | 51 52  -52
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| French | 306 | 343 389   -389
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| German | 1120 | 1367 1546   -1672
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| Hungarian | 104 | 105 105   -105
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| Italian | 111 | 121 170   -164
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| New Zealand | 46 | 60 59   -59
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| Norwegian | 20 | 79 79   -79
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| Polish | 249 | 252 246   -246
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| Rumanian | 81 | 81 80   -80
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| So.African | 20 | 32 32   -32
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| USSR | 1 | 1 1    -1
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Well we getting there

7500 +



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RE: Update info - 7/16/2006 8:08:48 PM   
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not bad since the first post

1934 US Pilots
655 GB
250 Poles
124 Can
68 Cz
45 NZ
167 Fr
32 Aus
52 Du
14 Nor
24 S.Af
807 GE
175 Ro
64 It
108 Hu

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RE: Update info - 7/17/2006 4:40:19 PM   
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Well, lets see how we doing pilot wise

| Nationality | Count |
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| American | 2327 |  2699 2798  -3123
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| Australian | 36 | 52 116    -116
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| British | 708 | 949 943    -1002
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| Canadian | 139 | 188 187   -187
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| Co Axis | 94 | 127 127    -127
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| Czech | 70 | 70 70   -70
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| Dutch | 51 | 51 52  -52
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| French | 306 | 343 389   -389
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| German | 1120 | 1367 1546   -1672
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| Hungarian | 104 | 105 105   -105
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| Italian | 111 | 121 170   -164
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| New Zealand | 46 | 60 59   -59
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| Norwegian | 20 | 79 79   -79
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| Polish | 249 | 252 246   -246
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| Rumanian | 81 | 81 80   -80
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| So.African | 20 | 32 32   -32
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| USSR | 1 | 1 1    -1
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Well we getting there

7500 +





What do the columns mean?

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RE: Update info - 7/17/2006 8:10:03 PM   
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Welllllll

the first one is the nation

the numbers are the number of pilots in the game for that nation

so like French, we are up to 389 pilots flying for the French Squadrons

(now a Frenchmen flying in a US or RAF Squadron, would show up as US or GB)



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RE: Update info - 7/18/2006 10:40:56 PM   
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I'm not sure to understand everything but it seems that you have no belgian pilot at all?
If it's technically possible to include them, just tell me what infos you need and i'll do my best to help.
regards,
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RE: Update info - 7/18/2006 11:17:39 PM   
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Hi Jan
Belgian Pilots are listed as being French (way it was programmed to begin with)

we have 349 and 350 Belg Squadrons

I can post the current list of these two Squadrons, and if you can add others, it would be a help :)



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RE: Update info - 7/18/2006 11:19:41 PM   
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349 Belg Squadron

(some pilots are listed as being in both, others are not sure, 349 was light so any that were not sure, were added to 349)


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|    6787 | Antoon Clash Claesen       |       940 | 349 Belgium Squadron  | French         |     72 |
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|    6786 | Christian Brahy            |       940 | 349 Belgium Squadron  | French         |     73 |
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|    6814 | Claude O. de Xivry         |       940 | 349 Belgium Squadron  | French         |     72 |
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|    6820 | Gabriel Gaby Seydel        |       940 | 349 Belgium Squadron  | French         |     74 |
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|    6788 | Gaston Dancot              |       940 | 349 Belgium Squadron  | French         |     72 |
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|    6796 | Georges Duschesne          |       940 | 349 Belgium Squadron  | French         |     72 |
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|    6791 | Guy De Jaegher             |       940 | 349 Belgium Squadron  | French         |     72 |
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|    6799 | Guy Keke Gigot             |       940 | 349 Belgium Squadron  | French         |     74 |
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|    6822 | Jack Vanderperren          |       940 | 349 Belgium Squadron  | French         |     74 |
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|    6811 | Jacques Morel              |       940 | 349 Belgium Squadron  | French         |     72 |
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|    6798 | Jean Victor Gerard         |       940 | 349 Belgium Squadron  | French         |     74 |
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|    6818 | John Scivue Didier         |       940 | 349 Belgium Squadron  | French         |     72 |
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|    6807 | Lucien Lelarge             |       940 | 349 Belgium Squadron  | French         |     74 |
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|    6819 | Lucien Luce Siroux         |       940 | 349 Belgium Squadron  | French         |     72 |
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|    6793 | Marcel Doncq               |       940 | 349 Belgium Squadron  | French         |     74 |
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|    6789 | Michel de Hepcee           |       940 | 349 Belgium Squadron  | French         |     74 |
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|    6792 | Paul J. Delorme            |       940 | 349 Belgium Squadron  | French         |     72 |
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|    6808 | Paul Pino Leva             |       940 | 349 Belgium Squadron  | French         |     70 |
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|    6821 | Paul Siroux                |       940 | 349 Belgium Squadron  | French         |     72 |
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|    6797 | Robert Francois            |       940 | 349 Belgium Squadron  | French         |     72 |
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|    6823 | Robert Vanderveken         |       940 | 349 Belgium Squadron  | French         |     72 |
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|    6795 | Roger Chat Duchateau       |       940 | 349 Belgium Squadron  | French         |     76 |
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|    6801 | Roger Hoornaert            |       940 | 349 Belgium Squadron  | French         |     72 |
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|    1091 | Yvan de Bergandael         |       940 | 349 Belgium Squadron  | French         |     85 |

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RE: Update info - 7/18/2006 11:21:13 PM   
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350 Belg Squadron


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|    1047 | Alain Lucien Boussa        |       846 | 350 Belg Squadron     | French         |     85 |
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|    6800 | Albert M.L. Herreman       |       846 | 350 Belg Squadron     | French         |     74 |
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|    6810 | Albert Toto Michiels       |       846 | 350 Belg Squadron     | French         |     71 |
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|    6824 | Albert Van Eeckhoudt       |       846 | 350 Belg Squadron     | French         |     72 |
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|    6826 | Albert Van Wesch           |       846 | 350 Belg Squadron     | French         |     74 |
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|    6781 | Alexandre Robert           |       846 | 350 Belg Squadron     | French         |     73 |
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|    6804 | Andre Kicq                 |       846 | 350 Belg Squadron     | French         |     72 |
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|    1131 | Andre M. Plisnier          |       846 | 350 Belg Squadron     | French         |     82 |
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|    6784 | Boeis Hendrik              |       846 | 350 Belg Squadron     | French         |     72 |
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|    6785 | Boute Frederic             |       846 | 350 Belg Squadron     | French         |     72 |
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|    6816 | Emile G.R. Pauwels         |       846 | 350 Belg Squadron     | French         |     71 |
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|    6829 | Ferdinand Verpoorten       |       846 | 350 Belg Squadron     | French         |     74 |
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|    5256 | Fernand E.L. Boutte        |       846 | 350 Belg Squadron     | French         |     70 |
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|    6827 | Francois Venesoen          |       846 | 350 Belg Squadron     | French         |     72 |
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|    5255 | Georges Deltour            |       846 | 350 Belg Squadron     | French         |     68 |
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|    6805 | Georges Kovarski           |       846 | 350 Belg Squadron     | French         |     73 |
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|    6782 | Guy Beckers                |       846 | 350 Belg Squadron     | French         |     73 |
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|    6790 | Guy Papou de Patoul        |       846 | 350 Belg Squadron     | French         |     74 |
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|    6194 | Harry Walmsley             |       846 | 350 Belg Squadron     | French         |     78 |
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|    4292 | Jacque Groensteen          |       846 | 350 Belg Squadron     | French         |     77 |
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|    6825 | Jacques Van Liefland       |       846 | 350 Belg Squadron     | French         |     72 |
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|    5252 | Jacques Wusterfeld         |       846 | 350 Belg Squadron     | French         |     70 |
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|    6806 | Jean Lavigne               |       846 | 350 Belg Squadron     | French         |     70 |
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|    5253 | Joseph Brosteaux           |       846 | 350 Belg Squadron     | French         |     68 |
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|    5251 | Leon Harmel                |       846 | 350 Belg Squadron     | French         |     70 |
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|    6817 | Leon Prevot                |       846 | 350 Belg Squadron     | French         |     76 |
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|    5258 | Leopold C. Collignon       |       846 | 350 Belg Squadron     | French         |     71 |
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|    6828 | Louis E. Verbeeck          |       846 | 350 Belg Squadron     | French         |     74 |
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|    4291 | Louis Lambrecht            |       846 | 350 Belg Squadron     | French         |     80 |
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|    6794 | Michel Mike Donnet         |       846 | 350 Belg Squadron     | French         |     77 |
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|    6815 | Pierre Pacco               |       846 | 350 Belg Squadron     | French         |     73 |
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|    5254 | R.G.B.  Ernould            |       846 | 350 Belg Squadron     | French         |     65 |
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|    6783 | Robert Bladt               |       846 | 350 Belg Squadron     | French         |     74 |
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|    6803 | Robert E.L. Jamine         |       846 | 350 Belg Squadron     | French         |     72 |
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|    6809 | Robert Mehuys              |       846 | 350 Belg Squadron     | French         |     74 |
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|    6802 | Robert N. Huens            |       846 | 350 Belg Squadron     | French         |     72 |
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|    6812 | Robert Roberto Muls        |       846 | 350 Belg Squadron     | French         |     72 |
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|    6813 | Sigismond Neulinger        |       846 | 350 Belg Squadron     | French         |     74 |
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|    5257 | Willy Laloux               |       846 | 350 Belg Squadron     | French         |     72 |

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RE: Update info - 7/18/2006 11:33:11 PM   
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Not sure how these will look, I had to cut and paste to get it all

but here is part of the first day kill list






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RE: Update info - 7/18/2006 11:34:59 PM   
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not what we may be seeing shortly, but gives a idea of the planes and pilots






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RE: Update info - 7/19/2006 2:16:25 AM   
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Hi Jan
Belgian Pilots are listed as being French (way it was programmed to begin with)

we have 349 and 350 Belg Squadrons

I can post the current list of these two Squadrons, and if you can add others, it would be a help :)




Roger, let's do that.

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RE: Update info - 7/23/2006 1:53:39 AM   
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here's a little summary of Bob pilots in an excel file, they can be sorted by nation.
there are, off course, the 29 belgian pilots.

http://amb3940.be/bob_pilots_all.htm

Source:
Battle-of-Britain.com

PS: i'm now working on the '43-'45 era, can you list the pilots flying for the 609th West Riding please?

Hope it helps,

Jan

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RE: Update info - 7/23/2006 2:36:28 AM   
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|    4974 | Charles DeMoulin           |       852 | 609 Squadron          | British        |     60 |
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|    1128 | Charles F.J. Detal         |       852 | 609 Squadron          | British        |     70 |
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|    1223 | George E. Gilroy           |       852 | 609 Squadron          | British        |     85 |
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|    2935 | Idwal James Davies         |       852 | 609 Squadron          | British        |     70 |
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|    2936 | John C. Wells              |       852 | 609 Squadron          | British        |     85 |
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|    5706 | John Hughes-Rees           |       852 | 609 Squadron          | British        |     85 |
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|    2933 | John Robert Baldwin        |       852 | 609 Squadron          | British        |     85 |
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|    2934 | Lawrence W. Stark          |       852 | 609 Squadron          | British        |     85 |
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|    4975 | Louis Manu Geerts          |       852 | 609 Squadron          | British        |     70 |
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|    1053 | Pat Thornton-Brown         |       852 | 609 Squadron          | British        |     85 |
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|    1129 | R.'Cheval' Lallemand       |       852 | 609 Squadron          | British        |      6 |
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|    2948 | T.F. Rosser                |       852 | 609 Squadron          | British        |     65 |
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|    1126 | Victor M.M. Ortman         |       852 | 609 Squadron          | British        |     85 |
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RE: Update info - 7/24/2006 10:43:10 AM   
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Ron, why not mention some of the things we've achieved UI-wise over the last weeks? I'll do it if you want...



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RE: Update info - 7/24/2006 6:15:09 PM   
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LOL

any other time you complain I am giving away too many secerts

post away, you could explain it better then I could



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RE: Update info - 7/24/2006 6:20:22 PM   
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Oh boy. You just made my day. I can hardly wait.

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RE: Update info - 7/25/2006 1:38:54 AM   
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coolness.

I'm not going to give it all away, mostly because it's too hard to explain in detail, and partly because it's still a work-in-progress.

By far the biggest change is the screen res has been increased to 1024*768, so whilst we still haven't got an adjustable screen size, we do have more real-estate to use.

The next most notable aspect is the dorky borders are gone. The map starts at the screen edge on the left, and right under the top bar at the top.

Tied in with that, is the right-hand control panel is now gone also - so the map stretches from the left to right panels. When plotting allied missions you can see from Land's End all the way to Poland in the one screen. I think we've over doubled the visible east-west map, and made a modest improvement to north-south.

Basically, I looked at the Uncommon Valour and War Plan Orange screen shots, and realised I liked the layouts, so I kept them in mind while designing the new ED/BTR layouts. Things aren't the same, but they are reminscent of these other games. It's really made a huge difference to mission planning and axis reaction.

There's more, but I just wanted to whet your appetite first, and remind you that we are head down, a*** up...

thats my censoring...



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RE: Update info - 7/25/2006 2:04:48 AM   
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I cant wait for this one come on guys hurry up

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RE: Update info - 7/25/2006 3:17:41 AM   
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is there even an rough estimate on a release date?  year, 6 months, 1 month

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RE: Update info - 7/25/2006 9:04:56 PM   
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Hola HS,

can you add the following pilots:

2nd Lt Erwin E. Antilla, 82nd FG (97th FS)

2nd Lt William Jaaskelainen, 339th FG

2nd Lt Karl O. Karhumaa, 339th FG

Lt Col Wilbert H. Junttila, 353rd FG

Maj Leslie W. Seppala, 353rd FG

2nd Lt Douglas A Makikuhna, 353rd FG

1st Lt James O. Junttila, 355th FG

1st Lt Albert V. Niemi, 356th FG

Maj Edwin W. Hiro, 357th FG

1st Lt Robert W. Siltamaki, 359th FG


Greetings, Augie

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RE: Update info - 7/25/2006 9:14:23 PM   
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Where these pilots Finnish nationals or Americans of Finnish decent.

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RE: Update info - 7/25/2006 9:31:33 PM   
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Von Shagmeister, they were Americans of Finnish descent

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RE: Update info - 7/26/2006 12:26:39 AM   
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Well

I had Maj Hiro :)

the others look new

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RE: Update info - 7/26/2006 2:05:56 AM   
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RE: Update info - 7/26/2006 11:33:41 AM   
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Augenstein,

Thanks for that, I thought it would be the latter as most of the forenames don't really sound very Finnish.

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