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Thorgrim
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Chameleon

Post by Thorgrim »

Ok, so this design has some power- and heat-management issues, and I've been considering changing it for a long time since there are plenty of energy-only plasma-based designs in the heavy category (and better ones).
Besides needing another skill for the gauss, it has better protection with the smaller engine and HR, better LS and ECM , scanner CBT->HD , computer LT->CBT , armor CT +7 CBT +5; much better heat management; better power management; approximately same alphastrike damage and damage potential with much less heat.
Downsides are less offensive power, with the GC only having 15 rounds (and can't be fired while prone), lower range (even though minimum range of GC is lower).
The accuracy doesn't suffer too much, the GC and PL having better mods that compensate the lower range. It doesn't have the problem of a PG without a DCS (the heat when damaged), and the GC ammo doesn't explode.
The better heat and power specs also help the AI, which is always a player to consider.
Opinions?

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 Titan Name: Chameleon             Short Range Heavy Titan
 Chassis: Durania H3               Design: Vicious Byte   
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 Weight: 140.0t (140t maximum)     Height     : 13 [meter]
 Bmt   : 31 (38 kph)               Reduce Heat: -3.39C/sec.
 Jmt   : 11 (109 kph) for 48 secs  Cost       : 351364($)
 
 
 Equipment:
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 Component/Type/Location
 
 Engine  : Morola M5 [Engine 5] [CT  ]
 HeatReg.: Triton  H8  [Heat 8]
 Flares  : FL Large    [Flare2] [RT  ]
 LifeSup.: Bisvo Inc.  [Life 6] [Head]
 Scanner : CyberSys L [Scan. 3] [Head]
 Computer: Mark BC-X  [Comp. 6] [CBT ]
 E.C.M.  : Mark EXL  [E.C.M. 6] [RT  ]
 JumpPort: Triton TJ   [Jump 5]
 
 
 Weapons:
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 Location/Weapon/Ammunition/Slots
 
 [LT  ]  GAUSS CANNON         (015) [1]
 [RA  ]  COLD LIGHT GUN      
 [LA  ]  PULSE LASER         
 
 
 Armor:
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 Loc/Internal/Armor/Status/Points/mm
 
 [Head] (13) Dullaroy       023 [033mm]
 [RT  ] (25) Vicenium  (S)  052 [087mm]
 [CT  ] (25) Dullaroy  (W)  062 [089mm]
 [CBT ] (15) Vicenium  (S)  033 [055mm]
 [LT  ] (25) Vicenium  (S)  052 [087mm]
 [RA  ] (25) Vicenium  MAX  054 [090mm]
 [LA  ] (25) Vicenium  MAX  054 [090mm]
 [LowT] (15) Dullaroy       055 [079mm]
 [RL  ] (21) Vicenium  MAX  054 [090mm]
 [LL  ] (21) Vicenium  MAX  054 [090mm]
 
 Armor Index:   5.02 [Total APts/T]
 Internal:    210  [APts]
 External:    493  [APts]   Max:[090mm]
 Total Armor: 703  [APts]
 
 
 JOCK requirements:
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 Piloting: Heavy Titan incl. Jump           
 Weapons : Energy  Cannon                   
 Warfare : Defense  Scanner  Warfare(ECM)   
 Skills  : Scout                            
 
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RE: Chameleon

Post by Burzmali »

I don't know about the 15 rounds... seems too low for a battle of any decent size. Would it be better to reduce the jump ports to make some room for the ammo (if possible)?
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RE: Chameleon

Post by Thorgrim »

It's not like it doesn't have any other weapons. As to reducing jump ports, that would cut down the length of a jump to 3 hexes, and frankly I don't see how making room in the LoT would help with ammo space in the LT [&:]
Maybe you're talking tonnage, and switching the LT to T? I may have already tried that, can't recall, this is an old mod I just dug up.
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RE: Chameleon

Post by Burzmali »

Weight might do it, but I thought you could stash ammo for a weapon in other locations, but maybe I am thinking of another system...
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RE: Chameleon

Post by Thorgrim »

You're definitely thinking of another system.
I've switched torso armor for T, there's a slight decrease to 49 but it's now got 2 ammo slots for the GC, and heat dissipation is slightly better. I've improved the scanner to a level 4 at the expense of a level in flares and LS (going back to the original 5). I'll play around with the armor to see if there's room for improvement.
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RE: Chameleon

Post by Thorgrim »

Ok, so here's the update to the PG version I never posted.

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 Titan Name: Chameleon             Short Range Heavy Titan
 Chassis: Durania H3               Design: Vicious Byte   
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 Weight: 140.0t (140t maximum)     Height     : 13 [meter]
 Bmt   : 31 (38 kph)               Reduce Heat: -3.94C/sec.
 Jmt   : 11 (109 kph) for 48 secs  Cost       : 353414($)
 
 
 Equipment:
 ----------------------------------------------------------------------
 Component/Type/Location
 
 Engine  : Triton T6 [Engine 6] [CT  ]
 HeatReg.: Mark MH-I   [Heat 9]
 Flares  : FL Large    [Flare2] [RT  ]
 LifeSup.: CyberSys    [Life 5] [Head]
 Scanner : CyberSys L [Scan. 3] [CBT ]
 Computer: Mark BC-X  [Comp. 6] [LT  ]
 E.C.M.  : TraCop    [E.C.M. 5] [RT  ]
 JumpPort: Triton TJ   [Jump 5]
 
 
 Weapons:
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 Location/Weapon/Ammunition/Slots
 
 [RA  ]  PLASMA GUN          
 [Head]  MEDIUM LASER        
 [LA  ]  COLD LIGHT GUN      
 
 
 Armor:
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 Loc/Internal/Armor/Status/Points/mm
 
 [Head] (13) Dullaroy       023 [033mm]
 [RT  ] (25) Vicenium  (W)  052 [087mm]
 [CT  ] (25) Dullaroy  (S)  055 [079mm]
 [CBT ] (15) Millenia  (W)  028 [056mm]
 [LT  ] (25) Vicenium  (W)  052 [087mm]
 [RA  ] (25) Vicenium  MAX  054 [090mm]
 [LA  ] (25) Vicenium  MAX  054 [090mm]
 [LowT] (15) Dullaroy  (S)  055 [079mm]
 [RL  ] (21) Vicenium  MAX  054 [090mm]
 [LL  ] (21) Vicenium  MAX  054 [090mm]
 
 Armor Index:   4.94 [Total APts/T]
 Internal:    210  [APts]
 External:    481  [APts]   Max:[090mm]
 Total Armor: 691  [APts]
 
 
 JOCK requirements:
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 Piloting: Heavy Titan incl. Jump           
 Weapons : Energy                           
 Warfare : Defense  Scanner  Warfare(ECM)   
 Skills  : Scout                            
 



And the final GC version.

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 Titan Name: Chameleon GC          Short Range Heavy Titan
 Chassis: Durania H3               Design: Vicious Byte   
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 Weight: 139.9t (140t maximum)     Height     : 13 [meter]
 Bmt   : 31 (38 kph)               Reduce Heat: -3.53C/sec.
 Jmt   : 12 (100 kph) for 42 secs  Cost       : 347003($)
 
 
 Equipment:
 ----------------------------------------------------------------------
 Component/Type/Location
 
 Engine  : Morola M5 [Engine 5] [CT  ]
 HeatReg.: Triton  H8  [Heat 8]
 Flares  : FL Small    [Flare1] [Head]
 LifeSup.: CyberSys    [Life 5] [Head]
 Scanner : Mark M-S   [Scan. 5] [RT  ]
 Computer: Mark BC-X  [Comp. 6] [CBT ]
 E.C.M.  : Mark EXL  [E.C.M. 6] [RT  ]
 JumpPort: Morola MJ   [Jump 4]
 
 
 Weapons:
 ----------------------------------------------------------------------
 Location/Weapon/Ammunition/Slots
 
 [LT  ]  GAUSS CANNON         (030) [2]
 [RA  ]  COLD LIGHT GUN      
 [LA  ]  PULSE LASER         
 
 
 Armor:
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 Loc/Internal/Armor/Status/Points/mm
 
 [Head] (13) Dullaroy       023 [033mm]
 [RT  ] (25) Titanium  MAX  049 [090mm]
 [CT  ] (25) Vicenium  MAX  054 [090mm]
 [CBT ] (15) Vicenium       027 [045mm]
 [LT  ] (25) Titanium  MAX  049 [090mm]
 [RA  ] (25) Vicenium  MAX  054 [090mm]
 [LA  ] (25) Vicenium  MAX  054 [090mm]
 [LowT] (15) Vicenium  MAX  054 [090mm]
 [RL  ] (21) Vicenium  MAX  054 [090mm]
 [LL  ] (21) Vicenium  MAX  054 [090mm]
 
 Armor Index:   4.87 [Total APts/T]
 Internal:    210  [APts]
 External:    472  [APts]   Max:[090mm]
 Total Armor: 682  [APts]
 
 
 JOCK requirements:
 ----------------------------------------------------------------------
 Piloting: Heavy Titan incl. Jump           
 Weapons : Energy  Cannon                   
 Warfare : Defense  Scanner  Warfare(ECM)   
 Skills  :                                  
 
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RE: Chameleon

Post by Thorgrim »

*bump*
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