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Paladin1dcs -> Fire on the Mountains - Paladin1 (A) vs MrKane (J) - No MrKane please! (3/13/2013 2:16:03 AM)

Okay, so call me a sucker for punishment! Not only am I taking the plunge in a PBEM game, but I'm doing an AAR too!

So, let's get right down to business. This is a Scen 31 game of DBB, with the extended map and stacking limits active. The other particulars, as well as the agreed upon HRs, are as follows.

1 Day turns.
Allied Damage Control = yes
Player Def. Upgrades = yes
Historical First Turn = No
December 7th Surprise = Yes
Reliable USN Torpedoes = No
Realistic R&D = Yes
No Unit Withdrawals = No


Auto Sub Ops = No
Set All Facilities To Expand At Start = No
Automatic Upgrade Ships And Air Groups = No
Accept Air And Ground Replacements = No

House rules:
Allies can only move already existing task forces on turn 1
No strategic bombing of Japan from China before 1943.

Now that I've got that out of the way, here's my general plan of defense for the first six months of the war.


India
Establish air bases along the Bay of Bengal at Vizagapatnam, Diamond Harbor, Madras and Akyab as well as Diego Garcia, Addu and Port Blair if possible. Create reserve stock piles of supplies at Bombay, Bangalore, Hyderabad, Nagpur, Cawnpore and Calcutta. Reinforce Ceylon, followed by all coastal cities along the Bay of Bengal.

Burma
Expand air bases around Rangoon and Mandalay. Allocate as many LCUs as possible to the defense of Burma, holding Rangoon if at all possible and keeping the Burma railheads open at all costs. Towards this end, redirect the AVG fighter groups as well as their ground support unit to the defense of Rangoon. Also redirect the British 18th Division from Singapore to the defense of Rangoon. All Allied air units which can be saved from Singapore once the situation there is hopeless will be redirected to Rangoon. Supplies will be routed through Colombo and/or Calcutta, depending on supply levels and the tactical situation. Supply convoys will go through at all cost, no matter the losses.

Malaya
Since the defense of Singapore is hopeless, delaying tactics will be employed to tie up as many IJA units here as possible for as long as possible. Force Z, along with as many other surface units as possible, will be rebased to Soerabaja to assist in countering the IJN's movements into the DEI. The longer I tie up the IJA and support elements of the IJN around the Malaya Theatre, the longer I have to reinforce Rangoon and the Burma Theatre, so I hope to see Singapore hold until at least the middle of February 1942. Longer would be better, but I'll take what I can get. Supplies to Singapore will be channeled through Batavia from Ceylon. If shipping losses exceed 30% of all hulls assigned, this effort will be halted.

China
The primary reason why I hope to hold open the Burma road is to be able to establish a strong MLR along the Nanning-Changsha axis and along the Nanyang-Sian axis, tying up large numbers of IJA troops in the process. Offensives will be limited to retaking Ichang and possibly Sinyang, but only to add an extra layer of defense to the Nanyang-Sian line. Secondary lines of defense will be established along the river North of Chengte and Tuyon, as well as along the rivers Northeast and West of Ichang. All units South and East of the MLRs will retreat back to the MLR at best speed. The only exception will be those units in Wuchow and Kukong, who will act as an early warning system for the IJA units around Canton. If I can hold out here until 1943, it will make the fight much easier in the CenPac, SoPac and SWPac regions.

Phillipines
Not much I can do here except fall back to the Manila-Clark-Bataan triangle, dig in and hold on as long as possible. The 4E bomber squadrons, PBY squadrons and Fighter Squadrons will be shuttled out to Australia as they are bought out. The submarines will be redirected to Perth and Brisbane while the surface shipping will be redirected to Darwin and Townsville to help defend the Northern portion of Australia. Supplies, when possible, will be ran through the blockade to Manila from Soerabaja. Casualties among the xAKLs involved (primarily those native to the Phillipines, Hong Kong and the DEI) are expected to exceed 50%. Once the casualty rates exceed this level, the resupply of Manila will be halted.

Australia & New Zealand
Defensive preperations will begin immediately, with Brigaded Divisions being recombined and assigned to the defense of Sydney and Melborne. Once these two locations are solidly entrenched, Perth, Brisbane, Rockhampton and Townsville will receive the next highest priority. Finally, Port Moresby will be reinforced if at all possible. Australia and NZ will be responsible for supplying the SWPac and SoPac regions from supplies and fuel provided by the US West Coast convoys.

CenPac
Rebuild Pearl after December 7th and establish strong bases at Christmas, Midway, Johnson and Canton Islands. Position ASW units at Christmas Island, along with a strong garrison and PBY presence, to turn it into a major stopping point along the Pearl Harbor-Sydney convoy route. Establish foward submarine bases at Midway and Canton if possible. Supplies will flow from Pearl Harbor.

NorPac
Establish strong bases at Dutch Harbor, Kodiak and Adak Island. Adak will be built into a strong forward submarine base if possible. Minimal resources will be dedicated to the NorPac region unless the situation demands otherwise. Supplies will flow through Anchorage from Seattle.

SoPac
Establish resupply, ASW and PBY bases at Suva and Pago Pago. Suva will be the primary base, with Pago Pago being a secondary base unless events demand otherwise. Majority of troops will be American, but supplies will flow from NZ and/or Australia.

SWPac
Establish a primary base at Noumea, with secondary bases at Luganville, Ndeni and Tulagi if at all possible. These secondary bases may have to wait, but Noumea/Koumac/La Foa should be fortified ASAP, as they lie directly along the primary resupply route to Australia from the mainland US. Troops will be American but supplies will flow from Australia.

Dutch East Indies
Begin shipping as much oil to Australia as possible. Batavia will be lightly held, as will Soerabaja, but as many Dutch troops as possible will be piled into Palembang, Oosthaven and Djambi behind forts. A fortress Palembang will be attempted, with the majority of the Dutch Air Force transferred to Sumatra. Again, the primary task here is denial of vital resources to Japan, either through the movement of those resources to other areas or through occupation of those bases as long as possible. Supplies will be brought in through Oosthaven from Colombo.

West Coast
Training units will be established immediately with supply convoys bound for Pearl Harbor leaving as soon as a suitable escort is available. No convoy to Pearl will leave without at least one escort ship.



So, what do you think? Where do I need to focus more attention? Where am I weak?




Paladin1dcs -> RE: Fire on the Mountains - Paladin1 (A) vs MrKane (J) - No MrKane please! (3/13/2013 3:54:15 AM)

Well now this should be interesting. I just got an email from MrKane stating that he wished to know if I wanted to restart Turn 1, since the KB stumbled over the Enterprise CVBG and got shellacked for their trouble. I'm not sure what the damage is yet, as I've still got to run the turn, but Pearl didn't get hit AT ALL, the Enterprise didn't get hit due to the KB being set for a Port Strike and the KB is now located somewhere South of Pearl. I don't know what to think here, other than "I wonder if I can sortie the entire Pacific Fleet and smash the KB on Dec 8th."

I really wish some of you AFB vets would weigh in and let me know what you think. Has this ever happened to any of you?




Bullwinkle58 -> RE: Fire on the Mountains - Paladin1 (A) vs MrKane (J) - No MrKane please! (3/13/2013 5:01:22 AM)

PM sent.




Paladin1dcs -> RE: Fire on the Mountains - Paladin1 (A) vs MrKane (J) - No MrKane please! (3/13/2013 5:10:00 AM)

Thanks for the PM Bullwinkle58, I'm reevaluating my options now to see what I can do and where.




Canoerebel -> RE: Fire on the Mountains - Paladin1 (A) vs MrKane (J) - No MrKane please! (3/13/2013 2:16:14 PM)

Tough call here.  If your opponent took a whacking and is so demoralized that he's already requested a mulligan, then failing to grant the mulligan might just cause him to lose interest in the game.  That's not a certainty, but the chances are much higher.  Bad carrier battles are the number one factor in ending a game prematurely.  (The number two factor is bad carrier battles followed by a sudden need to "attend to" real life matters.)

From an Allied player perspective, the real thrill of the game is '42, when the Japanese are powerful and driving you to the brink of defeat.  '43 to '45 is fun too, in a different way, but nothing matches the tautness of '42 in the hands of a capable IJ player.  So, you might benefit from a gaming experience by granting a mulligan.

That said, your opponent really shouldn't be asking for a mulligan.  Is he supposed to get a shot without risk?  He moved the carriers somewhere risky and pays for it, so he gets a do over? 

You'd be within your rights to decline a mulligan, but your long term prospects and perhaps even your enjoyment of the game might be enhanced if you grant the mulligan.  (And then he'll be honor bound to grant one to you in the future when you accidentally leave all your carrier squadrons on training while moving between Tahiti and New Zealand only to stumble across the KB...)




obvert -> RE: Fire on the Mountains - Paladin1 (A) vs MrKane (J) - No MrKane please! (3/13/2013 3:00:47 PM)

Well, my CVs got nailed Dec 8 after the first Pearl strike in an ongoing game, and it is possible to keep playing. Kind of Midway a few months early. [:D]

Not for everyone, so if it looks like he's going to bail, maybe you should consider a do-over for the game's sake. If you do, you can also stress that you're looking for a long game and would hope this would guarantee he sticks with it if something equally bad happens in the future. It takes fortitude to play the Japanese side through into 43-45, and a lot of players who know they can't ask for another chance a year on just quit.





nashvillen -> RE: Fire on the Mountains - Paladin1 (A) vs MrKane (J) - No MrKane please! (3/13/2013 3:31:08 PM)

Run the 001 file and see how bad it really is. Post results here, please.




Paladin1dcs -> RE: Fire on the Mountains - Paladin1 (A) vs MrKane (J) - No MrKane please! (3/13/2013 9:15:56 PM)

Gents, I need to pick your brains for a moment.

I ran the 001 file and watched the carnage, but when I went to the save game, the damage was different. I know that FoW is in effect, but if I watch a Submarine explode and sink in Manila harbor in the 001 file, only to have it be found with a single bomb hit when I open the turn for 8 Dec. Several things don't add up, not only in the number of ships lost (I saw five subs sink in the 001 file run, but only two show up in the turn file) but in the number of planes involved in attacks, attacks that never took place in the 001 file and let's not even talk about the KB.

I counted 2x 1000lb bombs and 1 TT hitting the Akagi, along with 3x1000lb bombs hitting Shokaku, 2x1000lb bombs hitting Kaga and 2x1000 bombs hitting Hiryu, including one which resulted in a massive fuel storage explosion. Yet when I get the turn, I see two bomb hits on Akagi and one hit on Shokaku.

Is this possible?


Here's the combat report, btw. I've highlighted what's wrong.

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Dec 07, 41
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Morning Air attack on Manila , at 79,77

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 25 NM, estimated altitude 24,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 45

Allied aircraft
P-26A x 4
P-40E Warhawk x 22

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
P-26A: 1 destroyed
P-40E Warhawk: 10 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
40 x A6M2 Zero sweeping at 23000 feet *

CAP engaged:
6th PS PAAC with P-26A (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(4 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 3 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 43 minutes
24th PG/17th PS with P-40E Warhawk (1 airborne, 3 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 29 minutes
35th PG/21st PS with P-40E Warhawk (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 18 scrambling)
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters to 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 81 minutes




This sweep never happened in the 001 File. [&:]

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Morning Air attack on Georgetown , at 49,74

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 39 NM, estimated altitude 29,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-27b Nate x 29

No Japanese losses

Aircraft Attacking:
29 x Ki-27b Nate sweeping at 25000 feet



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Morning Air attack on Singapore , at 50,84

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 37 NM, estimated altitude 6,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 14 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G3M2 Nell x 72
G4M1 Betty x 27

Allied aircraft
Buffalo I x 16

Japanese aircraft losses
G3M2 Nell: 2 destroyed, 44 damaged
G3M2 Nell: 9 destroyed by flak
G4M1 Betty: 11 damaged
G4M1 Betty: 3 destroyed by flak

Allied aircraft losses
Buffalo I: 16 damaged
Buffalo I: 2 destroyed on ground
Blenheim IV: 4 destroyed on ground
Vildebeest III: 1 destroyed on ground
Swordfish I: 2 destroyed on ground
Catalina I: 1 destroyed on ground

Airbase hits 21
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 46

Aircraft Attacking:
33 x G3M2 Nell bombing from 1000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
25 x G4M1 Betty bombing from 1000 feet
Airfield Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 2 x 60 kg GP Bomb
28 x G3M2 Nell bombing from 1000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
No.243 Sqn RAF with Buffalo I (1 airborne, 4 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 20000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 39 minutes
No.453 Sqn RAF with Buffalo I (2 airborne, 5 on standby, 4 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 5000 and 30500.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 48 minutes



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Morning Air attack on Manila , at 79,77

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 40 NM, estimated altitude 2,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 14 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 31
G3M2 Nell x 36
G4M1 Betty x 81

Japanese aircraft losses
G3M2 Nell: 2 damaged
G3M2 Nell: 1 destroyed by flak
G4M1 Betty: 4 damaged

Allied Ships
AVD Childs, Bomb hits 1, on fire
AS Otus, Bomb hits 2, on fire
SS S-40, Bomb hits 2, and is sunk
DD Pillsbury, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires
ARD YFD-1 Dewey, Bomb hits 1, on fire
SS Salmon, Bomb hits 3
AM Quail, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires
xAKL Sagoland, Bomb hits 1, on fire
YO-42, Bomb hits 1
SS Snapper, Bomb hits 1, heavy damage
SS Skipjack, Bomb hits 2, and is sunk
SS Seadragon, Bomb hits 1, heavy damage
PG Tulsa, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
SS Seal, Bomb hits 1
xAP President Madison, Bomb hits 1, on fire
DD Peary, Bomb hits 1, on fire
AM Bittern, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage
SS Saury, Bomb hits 1
PT-34, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
SS Swordfish, Bomb hits 1
xAK Tantalus, Bomb hits 1
xAKL Don Jose, Bomb hits 1, on fire
SS S-37, Bomb hits 1
SS Sealion, Bomb hits 1
AM Tanager, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires
SS Stingray, Bomb hits 1, heavy damage
SS Tarpon, Bomb hits 1, heavy damage
DD John D. Ford, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAK Ethel Edwards, Bomb hits 1, on fire
SS Sturgeon, Bomb hits 1
SS Sargo, Bomb hits 1
TK La Estrella Caltex, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
SS Sailfish, Bomb hits 1, heavy damage
DD Pope, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
AV Langley, Bomb hits 1
xAK Yu Sang, Bomb hits 1, on fire

Allied ground losses:
17 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Repair Shipyard hits 3
Port hits 7

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x G4M1 Betty bombing from 1000 feet
City Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb, 2 x 60 kg GP Bomb
27 x G4M1 Betty bombing from 1000 feet
Port Attack: 1 x 800 kg AP Bomb
27 x G4M1 Betty bombing from 1000 feet
Port Attack: 1 x 800 kg AP Bomb
36 x G3M2 Nell bombing from 1000 feet
Port Attack: 1 x 800 kg AP Bomb
21 x G4M1 Betty bombing from 1000 feet
Port Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb, 2 x 60 kg GP Bomb

Massive explosion on xAKL Sagoland

While I'm not terribly worried about the S-40 being sunk instead of the S-41, the S-41 was sunk from a single 800kg bomb hit which triggered a massive explosion, not multiple hits. The USS Pope, OTOH, wasn't sunk in the other file at all and, IIRC, wasn't even hit, yet here it's not only hit but sunk.


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Morning Air attack on Georgetown , at 49,74

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 5,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 48
Ki-43-Ia Oscar x 24
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 32
Ki-48-Ib Lily x 55

Allied aircraft
no flights

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Buffalo I: 45 damaged
Buffalo I: 1 destroyed on ground
Blenheim IF: 7 damaged
Blenheim IF: 2 destroyed on ground

Airbase hits 29
Airbase supply hits 5
Runway hits 72

Aircraft Attacking:
21 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 3000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb
27 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 3000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb
25 x Ki-48-Ib Lily bombing from 3000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 2 x 100 kg GP Bomb
30 x Ki-48-Ib Lily bombing from 3000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 2 x 100 kg GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on Manila , at 79,77

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 39 NM, estimated altitude 5,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 18

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-IIa Sally: 2 damaged

Allied Ships
SS S-41, Bomb hits 1, heavy damage
xAKL Palawan, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage
DD John D. Ford, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage
TK Mindanao, Bomb hits 1, on fire
SS Permit, Bomb hits 1
SS Seawolf, Bomb hits 1
AV Langley, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires
AS Holland, Bomb hits 1, on fire
SS Sculpin, Bomb hits 1, heavy damage
SS Pike, Bomb hits 1

Port hits 1
Port fuel hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
18 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 1000 feet *
Port Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on 20th Chinese Corps, at 83,51 , near Wuchang

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 16 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-27b Nate x 17
Ki-30 Ann x 12

No Japanese losses

Allied ground losses:
38 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x Ki-30 Ann bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on 63rd Chinese Corps, at 79,58 , near Kukong

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 18 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-27b Nate x 7
Ki-36 Ida x 14
Ki-44 Tojo x 6
Ki-51 Sonia x 12

No Japanese losses

Allied ground losses:
32 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 50 kg GP Bomb
14 x Ki-36 Ida bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 30 kg GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on 63rd Chinese Corps, at 79,58 , near Kukong

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-48-Ib Lily x 6

No Japanese losses

Allied ground losses:
19 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x Ki-48-Ib Lily bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 100 kg GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on 21st Chinese Corps, at 85,55 , near Nanchang

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 19,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-27b Nate x 8
Ki-51 Sonia x 12

No Japanese losses

Allied ground losses:
29 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing from 15000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 50 kg GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on Singapore , at 50,84

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 12 NM, estimated altitude 23,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 18

Allied aircraft
Buffalo I x 16

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Buffalo I: 3 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x A6M2 Zero sweeping at 23000 feet *

CAP engaged:
No.243 Sqn RAF with Buffalo I (0 airborne, 2 on standby, 1 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 1000 and 20000.
Raid is overhead
No.453 Sqn RAF with Buffalo I (0 airborne, 3 on standby, 5 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 1000 and 30000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 19 minutes



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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Johnston Island at 162,104

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 15 minutes

Allied aircraft
F2A-3 Buffalo x 9
SBD-2 Dauntless x 15
SBD-3 Dauntless x 9
TBD-1 Devastator x 12

Allied aircraft losses
SBD-2 Dauntless: 1 damaged
SBD-2 Dauntless: 1 destroyed by flak
SBD-3 Dauntless: 1 damaged
SBD-3 Dauntless: 1 destroyed by flak
TBD-1 Devastator: 5 damaged

Japanese Ships
CV Zuikaku
CV Akagi
CV Shokaku
CV Kaga
CV Hiryu, Bomb hits 2

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb
3 x SBD-2 Dauntless releasing from 4000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb
12 x TBD-1 Devastator launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 22.4in Mk 13 Torp.
8 x SBD-2 Dauntless releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb
4 x SBD-2 Dauntless releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb

Carrier support unable to supply air cover..

This is where I really start to wonder what's going on. In the 001 file, this group was made up of just the Buffalos and Dauntless DBs, as the Devastators lost flight cohesion and attacked separately. This first strike package was also the one which had two of the 1000lb bomb hits on Akagi, starting fires, and a penetrating hit on Kaga, causing severe fires below decks, none of which show up here.
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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Johnston Island at 162,104

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 18 minutes

Allied aircraft
F4F-3A Wildcat x 9
SBD-2 Dauntless x 24
TBD-1 Devastator x 15

Allied aircraft losses
SBD-2 Dauntless: 8 damaged
SBD-2 Dauntless: 1 destroyed by flak
TBD-1 Devastator: 3 damaged
TBD-1 Devastator: 1 destroyed by flak

Japanese Ships
CV Akagi, Bomb hits 1
CV Soryu
CV Shokaku
CV Zuikaku
CV Kaga

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x SBD-2 Dauntless releasing from 4000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb
15 x TBD-1 Devastator launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 22.4in Mk 13 Torp.
5 x SBD-2 Dauntless releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb
8 x SBD-2 Dauntless releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb
4 x SBD-2 Dauntless releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb
4 x SBD-2 Dauntless releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb

Carrier support unable to supply air cover..

And here's where I know there's something going on. This was the strike where Akagi took a torpedoe hit, Shokaku took her hits and the Hiryu got her attention as well, all of which showed in the replay of file 001 and none of which show up here.


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Pre-Invasion action off Kota Bharu (51,75)

46 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Japanese Ships
CL Sendai
DD Ayanami
DD Uranami
PB Tatsumiya Maru
SC Ch 9
SC Ch 7
AK Sasako Maru

Japanese ground losses:
55 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Allied ground losses:
164 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 13 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 9 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

CL Sendai firing at 8th Indian Brigade
DD Ayanami firing at 8th Indian Brigade
DD Uranami firing at 8th Indian Brigade
PB Tatsumiya Maru fired at enemy troops
SC Ch 9 fired at enemy troops
SC Ch 7 fired at enemy troops
DD Ayanami fired at enemy troops
Defensive Guns fire at approaching troops in landing craft at 6,000 yards
Defensive Guns fire at approaching troops in landing craft at 2,000 yards


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Amphibious Assault at Kota Bharu (51,75)

TF 85 troops unloading over beach at Kota Bharu, 51,75

Japanese ground losses:
24 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

17 troops of a IJA Engineer Squad lost in surf during unload of 12th Engr Rgt /1


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Amphibious Assault at Aparri (82,73)

TF 90 troops unloading over beach at Aparri, 82,73

Japanese ground losses:
24 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

17 troops of a SNLF Squad lost from landing craft during unload of Sasebo 1st SNLF


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Pre-Invasion action off Kota Bharu (51,75)

36 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Japanese Ships
DD Yugiri
DD Murakumo
PB Chosa Maru
LSD Shinshu Maru
DD Asagiri

Japanese ground losses:
24 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Allied ground losses:
236 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 11 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 17 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

DD Yugiri firing at 8th Indian Brigade
DD Murakumo firing at 8th Indian Brigade
PB Chosa Maru fired at enemy troops
DD Yugiri fired at enemy troops
Defensive Guns fire at approaching troops in landing craft at 5,000 yards
Defensive Guns fire at approaching troops in landing craft at 1,000 yards


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Amphibious Assault at Kota Bharu (51,75)

TF 91 troops unloading over beach at Kota Bharu, 51,75

Japanese ground losses:
120 casualties reported
Squads: 6 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 4 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Vehicles lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled)

75mm T90 Field Gun lost overboard during unload of 5th FA Rgt /1
15 Support troops lost from landing craft during unload of 25th Army /1
17 troops of a IJA Inf Squad accidentally lost during unload of 11th Infantry Rgt
17 troops of a IJA Inf Squad lost overboard during unload of 11th Infantry Rgt
15 Support troops lost overboard during unload of 11th Infantry Rgt
17 troops of a IJA Inf Squad lost from landing craft during unload of 41st Infantry Rgt /2
15 Support troops lost in surf during unload of 41st Infantry Rgt /3
15 Support troops lost from landing craft during unload of 5th FA Rgt
17 troops of a IJA Cavalry Squad lost in surf during unload of 5th Recon Rgt
Motorized Support damaged beyond repair during unload of 5th Recon Rgt
17 troops of a IJA Inf Squad lost overboard during unload of 11th Infantry Rgt /3


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Pre-Invasion action off Kota Bharu (51,75)

29 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Japanese Ships
DD Shirakumo
DD Shinonome
AK Tosan Maru

Japanese ground losses:
11 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Allied ground losses:
170 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 14 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 8 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

DD Shirakumo firing at FMSV Brigade
DD Shinonome firing at FMSV Brigade
DD Shirakumo fired at enemy troops
DD Shinonome fired at enemy troops
Defensive Guns fire at approaching troops in landing craft at 6,000 yards
Defensive Guns fire at approaching troops in landing craft at 1,000 yards


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Amphibious Assault at Kota Bharu (51,75)

TF 92 troops unloading over beach at Kota Bharu, 51,75

15 Support troops lost in surf during unload of 42nd Infantry Rgt /2


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Pre-Invasion action off San Fernando (80,74)

45 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Japanese Ships
PB Shonan Maru #17
PB Shonan Maru #2
PB Shonan Maru #1
PB Kyo Maru #11
PB Kyo Maru #2
xAK Nagara Maru

Japanese ground losses:
11 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Allied ground losses:
14 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

PB Shonan Maru #17 fired at enemy troops
PB Shonan Maru #2 fired at enemy troops
PB Shonan Maru #1 fired at enemy troops
PB Kyo Maru #11 fired at enemy troops
PB Kyo Maru #2 fired at enemy troops
Defensive Guns fire at approaching troops in landing craft at 4,000 yards
Defensive Guns fire at approaching troops in landing craft at 2,000 yards


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Amphibious Assault at San Fernando (80,74)

TF 96 troops unloading over beach at San Fernando, 80,74



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Pre-Invasion action off Kota Bharu (51,75)

34 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Japanese Ships
SC Ch 8
xAK Kyokko Maru
AV Sanyo Maru
DMS W-6

Japanese ground losses:
46 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Allied ground losses:
60 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

SC Ch 8 fired at enemy troops
Defensive Guns fire at approaching troops in landing craft at 6,000 yards
Defensive Guns fire at approaching troops in landing craft at 1,000 yards


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Amphibious Assault at Kota Bharu (51,75)

TF 97 troops unloading over beach at Kota Bharu, 51,75

Japanese ground losses:
24 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Vehicles lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled)

Type 95 Light Tank damaged beyond repair during unload of 1st Tank Rgt
13.2mm T93 AAMG accidentally lost during unload of 84th JAAF AF Bn
17 troops of a IJA Engineer Squad lost in surf during unload of 5th Engr Rgt /2






Canoerebel -> RE: Fire on the Mountains - Paladin1 (A) vs MrKane (J) - No MrKane please! (3/13/2013 9:25:32 PM)

The written combat report should match the combat replay that you watched.  if it didn't, you have experienced the dreaded sync bug, which means your game is out of sync with your opponent's game.  I'm not sure how that would have happened, but others in here will chime in with info.




DOCUP -> RE: Fire on the Mountains - Paladin1 (A) vs MrKane (J) - No MrKane please! (3/13/2013 9:29:57 PM)

Sounds like a sync bug Paladin.  You will see one thing in the combat replay and another when you open up the turn.  This does happen.  It has happen to me a lot.  The guys above have given good advice as to a redo.  Thats up to you and your opponent.  The alliede player is the only one affected by the sync bug, so he should know the true extent of damage to his carriers. 

Also good luck on the game and AAR,  I will be around.  Nice to see another West BY GOD Virginian posting an AAR.

Becareful fighting for Rangoon.  Unless you pull a Bull and move Chinese units into Burma the Japs will run over top of you.  Your units in Burma aren't very good.




nashvillen -> RE: Fire on the Mountains - Paladin1 (A) vs MrKane (J) - No MrKane please! (3/13/2013 9:30:50 PM)

You need to get the move file (whatever number you are using to exchange from) back from your opponent. This will tell you the true condition of your units. As to your opponent, only time and some judicious use of recon by fire (which is hard to do in 1941-early 1943 with the allies) will tell.




jeffk3510 -> RE: Fire on the Mountains - Paladin1 (A) vs MrKane (J) - No MrKane please! (3/13/2013 9:41:35 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Canoerebel

Tough call here.  If your opponent took a whacking and is so demoralized that he's already requested a mulligan, then failing to grant the mulligan might just cause him to lose interest in the game.  That's not a certainty, but the chances are much higher.  Bad carrier battles are the number one factor in ending a game prematurely.  (The number two factor is bad carrier battles followed by a sudden need to "attend to" real life matters.)

From an Allied player perspective, the real thrill of the game is '42, when the Japanese are powerful and driving you to the brink of defeat.  '43 to '45 is fun too, in a different way, but nothing matches the tautness of '42 in the hands of a capable IJ player.  So, you might benefit from a gaming experience by granting a mulligan.

That said, your opponent really shouldn't be asking for a mulligan. Is he supposed to get a shot without risk? He moved the carriers somewhere risky and pays for it, so he gets a do over?

You'd be within your rights to decline a mulligan, but your long term prospects and perhaps even your enjoyment of the game might be enhanced if you grant the mulligan.  (And then he'll be honor bound to grant one to you in the future when you accidentally leave all your carrier squadrons on training while moving between Tahiti and New Zealand only to stumble across the KB...)


Agreed 100%




Paladin1dcs -> RE: Fire on the Mountains - Paladin1 (A) vs MrKane (J) - No MrKane please! (3/13/2013 9:41:56 PM)

Okay, so how do I fix a sync bug and which report is right? The replay or the combat report?




nashvillen -> RE: Fire on the Mountains - Paladin1 (A) vs MrKane (J) - No MrKane please! (3/13/2013 9:44:23 PM)

Did you get the second file from your opponent after he had done his part of the next turn? If not, your not looking at the right file anyways.




jeffk3510 -> RE: Fire on the Mountains - Paladin1 (A) vs MrKane (J) - No MrKane please! (3/13/2013 9:45:13 PM)

Looks like he did a Manila port strike and went CV hunting with KB on day one...




Paladin1dcs -> RE: Fire on the Mountains - Paladin1 (A) vs MrKane (J) - No MrKane please! (3/13/2013 9:48:18 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: nashvillen

Did you get the second file from your opponent after he had done his part of the next turn? If not, your not looking at the right file anyways.

Yeah, I got the move file. That's where I started wondering where things diverged first, when I compared the Combat Report to the replay.




Paladin1dcs -> RE: Fire on the Mountains - Paladin1 (A) vs MrKane (J) - No MrKane please! (3/13/2013 9:51:11 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: jeffk3510

Looks like he did a Manila port strike and went CV hunting with KB on day one...


That was kind of my thought as well when he said that the KB "just happened to stumble over the Enterprise CVBG" and asked if I wanted to restart the game, since his carriers were set to Port Strike (instead of NavAttack) and the damage wasn't too severe. I'm not really pleased with his metagaming right now, but I didn't specify no CV hunting on turn 1 so it's fair game.




jeffk3510 -> RE: Fire on the Mountains - Paladin1 (A) vs MrKane (J) - No MrKane please! (3/13/2013 9:54:39 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Paladin1dcs


quote:

ORIGINAL: jeffk3510

Looks like he did a Manila port strike and went CV hunting with KB on day one...


That was kind of my thought as well when he said that the KB "just happened to stumble over the Enterprise CVBG" and asked if I wanted to restart the game, since his carriers were set to Port Strike (instead of NavAttack) and the damage wasn't too severe. I'm not really pleased with his metagaming right now, but I didn't specify no CV hunting on turn 1 so it's fair game.


Yeah, not sure. Curious to see how this plays out and see the actual results file.




Canoerebel -> RE: Fire on the Mountains - Paladin1 (A) vs MrKane (J) - No MrKane please! (3/13/2013 10:08:31 PM)

If your opponent did a Manila Strike day one and also intentionally went hunting for your carriers, there is no way I'd give him a mulligan.  If he demanded one, saying he'd quit if he didn't give it, I'd bid him adieu, chalk up your first victory, and start a new game with another opponent.

If, on the other hand, he's relatively inexperienced and made a fundamental but understandable newbie mistake, I'd be inclined to be more charitable.




DOCUP -> RE: Fire on the Mountains - Paladin1 (A) vs MrKane (J) - No MrKane please! (3/13/2013 10:14:04 PM)

Again I agree with what the other players have posted.  He went CV hunting and forgot to change his attack orders.  The move turn will have the accurate information.  You can't fix the sync bug they just happen.




Paladin1dcs -> RE: Fire on the Mountains - Paladin1 (A) vs MrKane (J) - No MrKane please! (3/13/2013 10:15:12 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Canoerebel

If your opponent did a Manila Strike day one and also intentionally went hunting for your carriers, there is no way I'd give him a mulligan.  If he demanded one, saying he'd quit if he didn't give it, I'd bid him adieu, chalk up your first victory, and start a new game with another opponent.

If, on the other hand, he's relatively inexperienced and made a fundamental but understandable newbie mistake, I'd be inclined to be more charitable.

Well it appears that the only newbie mistake he made was to forgot to switch over the KB from port strike to naval strike. I didn't even run into any CAP, either in the 001 file or in the Combat report. I did notice though that both the Combat Report as well as the replay made note that the KB's carrier support was unable to provide air cover, whatever that means. It sounds bad for him, but I know better than to count on that happening again so I don't see how it's exploitable.




Paladin1dcs -> RE: Fire on the Mountains - Paladin1 (A) vs MrKane (J) - No MrKane please! (3/14/2013 5:03:54 PM)

After yesterday's turn, today's wasn't too bad.

I got a sub strike on one of his AVs which should sink it, which is always good, but that's about it. KB has completely disappeared from my radar and PH is still surrounded by subs, but my ASW forces are trying to fix at least one of those problems.

Now about finding those Carriers.

And here's last turn's Combat Report. Once I get a little better handle on this, I intend to try to start including pictures and maps as well, but one thing at a time.

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Dec 08, 41
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Invasion Support action off Kota Bharu (51,75)

16 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Japanese Ships
CL Sendai
DD Shikinami
PB Tatsumiya Maru
SC Ch 9
SC Ch 7
AK Sasako Maru
DD Ayanami

Japanese ground losses:
10 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Allied ground losses:
83 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 5 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

CL Sendai firing at 8th Indian Brigade
DD Shikinami firing at 8th Indian Brigade
PB Tatsumiya Maru fired at enemy troops
SC Ch 9 fired at enemy troops
SC Ch 7 fired at enemy troops
DD Shikinami fired at enemy troops
Defensive Guns fire at approaching troops in landing craft at 2,000 yards


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Invasion Support action off Kota Bharu (51,75)

18 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Japanese Ships
DD Asagiri
PB Chosa Maru
LSD Shinshu Maru
DD Murakumo
DD Yugiri

Japanese ground losses:
21 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

PB Chosa Maru fired at enemy troops
DD Asagiri fired at enemy troops
Defensive Guns fire at approaching troops in landing craft at 1,000 yards


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Invasion Support action off Kota Bharu (51,75)

18 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Japanese Ships
DD Shirakumo
DD Shinonome
AK Tosan Maru

Japanese ground losses:
53 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Defensive Guns fire at approaching troops in landing craft at 1,000 yards


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Invasion Support action off San Fernando (80,74)
Defensive Guns engage approaching landing force

2 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Japanese Ships
PB Shonan Maru #17
PB Shonan Maru #2
PB Shonan Maru #1
PB Kyo Maru #11
PB Kyo Maru #2
xAK Nagara Maru

Allied ground losses:
15 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

PB Shonan Maru #17 fired at enemy troops
PB Shonan Maru #2 fired at enemy troops
PB Shonan Maru #1 fired at enemy troops
PB Kyo Maru #11 fired at enemy troops
PB Kyo Maru #2 fired at enemy troops


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Invasion Support action off Kota Bharu (51,75)
Defensive Guns engage approaching landing force

8 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Japanese Ships
SC Ch 8
xAK Kyokko Maru

SC Ch 8 fired at enemy troops


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ASW attack near Pearl Harbor at 180,106

Japanese Ships
SS I-25

Allied Ships
DD Dale
DD Monaghan

SS I-25 is sighted by escort
DD Dale fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Monaghan fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Monaghan fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub


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TF 157 encounters mine field at Bataan (78,77)

Allied Ships
PT Q-111, Mine hits 1, heavy damage



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ASW attack near Pearl Harbor at 180,106

Japanese Ships
SS I-17

Allied Ships
DD Schley
DD Allen
DD Chew

SS I-17 is located by DD Schley
I-17 diving deep ....
DD Schley fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Chew fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Schley fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Schley fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Schley fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Schley fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Schley fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub


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Submarine attack near Patani at 52,73

Japanese Ships
AV Sanyo Maru, Torpedo hits 1, heavy damage

Allied Ships
SS KXI

SS KXI is sighted by AV Sanyo Maru
SS KXI launches 4 torpedoes at AV Sanyo Maru


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ASW attack near Tandjoengpinang at 51,85

Japanese Ships
SS I-121

Allied Ships
CM Kung Wo
PG Herald

SS I-121 launches 4 torpedoes at CM Kung Wo
I-121 bottoming out ....
PG Herald fails to find sub, continues to search...
PG Herald fails to find sub, continues to search...
PG Herald fails to find sub, continues to search...
PG Herald fails to find sub, continues to search...
PG Herald fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub


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ASW attack near Pearl Harbor at 180,106

Japanese Ships
SS I-175

Allied Ships
DD Farragut
DD Dale
DD Monaghan

SS I-175 launches 2 torpedoes at DD Farragut
DD Dale fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Monaghan fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Monaghan fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Monaghan fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Monaghan fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Monaghan fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Monaghan fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub


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Sub attack near Kota Bharu at 51,75

Japanese Ships
DD Uranami
DMS W-3
xAK Asakasan Maru
DD Ayanami
DD Shikinami
PB Tatsumiya Maru

Allied Ships
SS KXII

SS KXII launches 4 torpedoes at DD Uranami
DD Ayanami fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Shikinami fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Tatsumiya Maru fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Ayanami fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Shikinami fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Shikinami fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Shikinami fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Shikinami fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Shikinami fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub


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Sub attack near Patani at 52,73

Japanese Ships
AV Sanyo Maru, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage

Allied Ships
SS KXI

AV Sanyo Maru is sighted by SS KXI
SS KXI launches 4 torpedoes


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Amphibious Assault at Makin (136,125)

TF 15 troops unloading over beach at Makin, 136,125



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Invasion Support action off Kota Bharu (51,75)
Defensive Guns engage approaching landing force

7 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Japanese Ships
PB Tatsumiya Maru
SC Ch 9
SC Ch 7
AK Sasako Maru

PB Tatsumiya Maru fired at enemy troops
SC Ch 9 fired at enemy troops
SC Ch 7 fired at enemy troops


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Invasion Support action off Kota Bharu (51,75)
Defensive Guns engage approaching landing force

8 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Japanese Ships
PB Chosa Maru
LSD Shinshu Maru
DD Murakumo

PB Chosa Maru fired at enemy troops
18 Pounder Gun battery firing at LSD Shinshu Maru


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Invasion Support action off Kota Bharu (51,75)
Defensive Guns engage approaching landing force

7 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Japanese Ships
AK Sagami Maru
AK Kinka Maru
AK Tosan Maru

Allied ground losses:
7 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

AK Sagami Maru fired at enemy troops
AK Kinka Maru fired at enemy troops
AK Tosan Maru fired at enemy troops


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Invasion Support action off San Fernando (80,74)
Defensive Guns engage approaching landing force

3 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Japanese Ships
PB Shonan Maru #17
PB Shonan Maru #2
PB Shonan Maru #1
PB Kyo Maru #11
PB Kyo Maru #2
xAK Nagara Maru

PB Shonan Maru #17 fired at enemy troops
PB Shonan Maru #2 fired at enemy troops
PB Shonan Maru #1 fired at enemy troops
PB Kyo Maru #11 fired at enemy troops
PB Kyo Maru #2 fired at enemy troops


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Invasion Support action off Kota Bharu (51,75)
Defensive Guns engage approaching landing force

4 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Japanese Ships
SC Ch 8
xAK Kyokko Maru

SC Ch 8 fired at enemy troops


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ASW attack near Pearl Harbor at 181,106

Japanese Ships
SS I-4

Allied Ships
DD Dale
DD Monaghan

SS I-4 is sighted by escort
DD Dale fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Monaghan fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Monaghan fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Monaghan fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Monaghan fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Monaghan fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub


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ASW attack near Pearl Harbor at 180,106

Japanese Ships
SS I-25

Allied Ships
DD Hull
DD Dewey

SS I-25 is sighted by escort
DD Hull fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Dewey attacking submerged sub ....
SS I-25 eludes DD Dewey by diving deep
DD Dewey cannot reach attack position over SS I-25
SS I-25 eludes DD Dewey by diving deep
DD Dewey fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Dewey fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Dewey fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Dewey fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Dewey fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub


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Sub attack near Pearl Harbor at 181,106

Japanese Ships
SS I-7

Allied Ships
DD Allen
DD Schley
DD Chew

SS I-7 launches 2 torpedoes at DD Allen
DD Schley fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Chew fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Chew attacking submerged sub ....
DD Chew cannot reach attack position over SS I-7
DD Chew fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Chew fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Chew fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Chew fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub


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Invasion Support action off Kota Bharu (51,75)
Defensive Guns engage approaching landing force

7 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Japanese Ships
PB Tatsumiya Maru
SC Ch 9
SC Ch 7
AK Sasako Maru

PB Tatsumiya Maru fired at enemy troops
SC Ch 9 fired at enemy troops
SC Ch 7 fired at enemy troops


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Invasion Support action off Kota Bharu (51,75)
Defensive Guns engage approaching landing force

7 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Japanese Ships
PB Chosa Maru
LSD Shinshu Maru

PB Chosa Maru fired at enemy troops


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Invasion Support action off San Fernando (80,74)
Defensive Guns engage approaching landing force

1 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Japanese Ships
PB Shonan Maru #17
PB Shonan Maru #2
PB Shonan Maru #1
PB Kyo Maru #11
PB Kyo Maru #2
xAK Nagara Maru

Allied ground losses:
10 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

PB Shonan Maru #17 fired at enemy troops
PB Shonan Maru #2 fired at enemy troops
PB Shonan Maru #1 fired at enemy troops
PB Kyo Maru #11 fired at enemy troops
PB Kyo Maru #2 fired at enemy troops


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Invasion Support action off Kota Bharu (51,75)
Defensive Guns engage approaching landing force

7 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Japanese Ships
SC Ch 8
xAK Kyokko Maru

SC Ch 8 fired at enemy troops


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ASW attack near Pearl Harbor at 181,106

Japanese Ships
SS I-4

Allied Ships
DD Hull
DD Dewey

SS I-4 is sighted by escort
I-4 diving deep ....
DD Hull fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Dewey fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Dewey fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Dewey fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Dewey fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Dewey fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub


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ASW attack near Pearl Harbor at 181,106

Japanese Ships
SS I-4

Allied Ships
DD MacDonough
DD Hull
DD Dewey

SS I-4 is located by DD MacDonough
DD Hull attacking submerged sub ....
DD Hull cannot reach attack position over SS I-4
DD Hull cannot reach attack position over SS I-4
SS I-4 eludes DD Hull by diving deep
DD Hull cannot reach attack position over SS I-4
DD Dewey fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub


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ASW attack near Pearl Harbor at 181,106

Japanese Ships
SS I-4

Allied Ships
DD Hull
DD Dewey

SS I-4 is sighted by escort
DD Hull fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Dewey fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Dewey fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Dewey fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Dewey fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Dewey fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Dewey fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub


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ASW attack near Singora at 51,72

Japanese Ships
CL Jintsu
DD Oshio
DD Hibiki
DD Akatsuki
DD Arashio

Allied Ships
SS KXI, hits 2

SS KXI is sighted by escort
DD Hibiki fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Akatsuki fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Arashio attacking submerged sub ....
DD Arashio fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Arashio fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Arashio fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Arashio fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub


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Morning Air attack on Manila , at 79,77

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 49 NM, estimated altitude 29,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 16 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 30

Allied aircraft
P-35A x 6
P-40B Warhawk x 5
P-40E Warhawk x 26

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
P-35A: 1 destroyed
P-40B Warhawk: 1 destroyed
P-40E Warhawk: 6 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
15 x A6M2 Zero sweeping at 23000 feet *

CAP engaged:
24th PG/3rd PS with P-40E Warhawk (3 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(11 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 8 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 1 minutes
24th PG/20th PS with P-40B Warhawk (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(5 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 5 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 25000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 5 minutes
35th PG/34th PS with P-35A (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(6 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 6 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 6 minutes
24th PG/17th PS with P-40E Warhawk (0 airborne, 4 on standby, 6 scrambling)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 1 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 25000 , scrambling fighters to 25000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 38 minutes
35th PG/21st PS with P-40E Warhawk (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 25000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 1 minutes



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Morning Air attack on Clark Field , at 79,76

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 39 NM, estimated altitude 23,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 30

Allied aircraft
P-35A x 7
P-40B Warhawk x 6
P-40E Warhawk x 5

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
P-35A: 3 destroyed
P-40B Warhawk: 3 destroyed
P-40E Warhawk: 1 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
26 x A6M2 Zero sweeping at 23000 feet

CAP engaged:
24th PG/17th PS with P-40E Warhawk (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(4 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 25000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 5 minutes
35th PG/21st PS with P-40E Warhawk (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(1 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 25000 , scrambling fighters to 24000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 22 minutes
24th PG/20th PS with P-40B Warhawk (0 airborne, 4 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 25000 , scrambling fighters to 25000.
Raid is overhead
35th PG/34th PS with P-35A (0 airborne, 5 on standby, 0 scrambling)
5 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 20000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 1 minutes



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Morning Air attack on Manila , at 79,77

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 37 NM, estimated altitude 28,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 9

Allied aircraft
P-40E Warhawk x 1

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
P-40E Warhawk: 1 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x A6M2 Zero sweeping at 23000 feet *

CAP engaged:
24th PG/3rd PS with P-40E Warhawk (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 21000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 26 minutes



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Morning Air attack on 70th Chinese Corps, at 86,57 (Pucheng)

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid spotted at 17 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-48-Ib Lily x 21

No Japanese losses

Allied ground losses:
38 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
21 x Ki-48-Ib Lily bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 100 kg GP Bomb

Also attacking 86th Chinese Corps ...
Also attacking 70th Chinese Corps ...
Also attacking 86th Chinese Corps ...
Also attacking 70th Chinese Corps ...


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Morning Air attack on 108th RAF Base Force, at 54,60 (Tavoy)

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 19 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 44

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-IIa Sally: 1 damaged

Aircraft Attacking:
19 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
25 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on 20th Chinese Corps, at 83,51 , near Wuchang

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 19 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-27b Nate x 9
Ki-30 Ann x 9

No Japanese losses

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x Ki-30 Ann bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on TF, near Kota Bharu at 51,75

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-27b Nate x 14

Allied aircraft
Hudson I x 3

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Hudson I: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged

Japanese Ships
CA Suzuya

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Hudson I bombing from 6000 feet *
Naval Attack: 2 x 250 lb SAP Bomb

CAP engaged:
1st Sentai with Ki-27b Nate (6 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(2 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
6 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 10000
Raid is overhead
4 planes vectored on to bombers
11th Sentai with Ki-27b Nate (6 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(2 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
6 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 20000
Raid is overhead
77th Sentai Det A with Ki-27b Nate (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Raid is overhead



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Morning Air attack on 25th Army, at 51,75 (Kota Bharu)

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 31 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-27b Nate x 22

Allied aircraft
Blenheim I x 3
Blenheim IV x 2
Buffalo I x 1

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Blenheim I: 1 destroyed

CAP engaged:
1st Sentai with Ki-27b Nate (8 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(6 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
8 plane(s) intercepting now.
4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 6000 and 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 37 minutes
11th Sentai with Ki-27b Nate (5 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(5 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
5 plane(s) intercepting now.
4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 6000 and 20000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 55 minutes
77th Sentai Det A with Ki-27b Nate (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Raid is overhead



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Morning Air attack on 20th AA Regiment, at 51,75 (Kota Bharu)

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 35 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-27b Nate x 18

Allied aircraft
Blenheim I x 6

No Japanese losses

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x Blenheim I bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
1st Sentai with Ki-27b Nate (6 airborne, 0 on standby, 4 scrambling)
6 plane(s) intercepting now.
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 6000 and 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 30 minutes
11th Sentai with Ki-27b Nate (4 airborne, 0 on standby, 2 scrambling)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 6000 and 20000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 36 minutes
2 planes vectored on to bombers



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Morning Air attack on Clark Field , at 79,76

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 22 NM, estimated altitude 27,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 9

No Japanese losses

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x A6M2 Zero sweeping at 23000 feet



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Afternoon Air attack on 64th Chinese Corps, at 72,58 (Pakhoi)

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 19 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-51 Sonia x 13

No Japanese losses

Allied ground losses:
9 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
7 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing from 6000 feet *
Ground Attack: 2 x 50 kg GP Bomb
6 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing from 6000 feet *
Ground Attack: 2 x 50 kg GP Bomb



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Afternoon Air attack on 21st Chinese Corps, at 85,55 , near Nanchang

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 8 NM, estimated altitude 20,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 2 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-27b Nate x 8
Ki-51 Sonia x 6

No Japanese losses

Allied ground losses:
9 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing from 15000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 50 kg GP Bomb



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ASW attack near Kota Bharu at 51,75

Japanese Ships
PB Chosa Maru
xAP Naminoue Maru
xAK Atutasan Maru
DD Yugiri

Allied Ships
SS KXII

SS KXII is sighted by escort
KXII bottoming out ....
DD Yugiri fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Yugiri fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Yugiri fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Yugiri fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Yugiri fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub


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ASW attack near Kota Bharu at 51,75

Japanese Ships
DD Maikaze
CA Mogami
DD Hagikaze
DD Arashi

Allied Ships
SS KXII, hits 3

SS KXII launches 2 torpedoes at DD Maikaze
DD Hagikaze fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Arashi fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Arashi fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Arashi fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Arashi fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Arashi attacking submerged sub ....
Escort abandons search for sub


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ASW attack near Pearl Harbor at 181,106

Japanese Ships
SS I-4

Allied Ships
DD Dale
DD Monaghan

SS I-4 is sighted by escort
DD Dale fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Monaghan fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Monaghan fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Monaghan fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Monaghan fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Monaghan fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub


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Invasion Support action off Kota Bharu (51,75)
Defensive Guns engage approaching landing force

10 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Japanese Ships
LSD Shinshu Maru, Shell hits 1
DD Murakumo
DD Yugiri

2pdr AA Gun battery firing at LSD Shinshu Maru


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Invasion Support action off San Fernando (80,74)
Defensive Guns engage approaching landing force

2 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Japanese Ships
xAKL Fukuei Maru
xAKL Korei Maru
xAK Nagara Maru

Allied ground losses:
18 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

xAKL Fukuei Maru fired at enemy troops
xAKL Korei Maru fired at enemy troops
xAK Nagara Maru fired at enemy troops


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Invasion Support action off Kota Bharu (51,75)
Defensive Guns engage approaching landing force

9 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Japanese Ships
DMS W-6
DMS W-5
DMS W-1
xAK Kyokko Maru

Allied ground losses:
17 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

DMS W-6 fired at enemy troops
DMS W-5 fired at enemy troops
DMS W-1 fired at enemy troops


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Ground combat at Kota Bharu (51,75)

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 21581 troops, 171 guns, 144 vehicles, Assault Value = 711

Defending force 3890 troops, 40 guns, 1 vehicles, Assault Value = 90

Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 0

Japanese adjusted assault: 930

Allied adjusted defense: 2

Japanese assault odds: 465 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Kota Bharu !!!

Allied aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft losses
Hudson I: 9 destroyed
Vildebeest III: 4 destroyed
Buffalo I: 1 destroyed

Combat modifiers
Defender: leaders(-), disruption(-), preparation(-), fatigue(-)
morale(-), experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+)

Japanese ground losses:
236 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 15 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 9 disabled

Allied ground losses:
1608 casualties reported
Squads: 168 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 101 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 26 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 48 (48 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Vehicles lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units retreated 1
Units destroyed 2

Assaulting units:
11th Infantry Regiment
56th Infantry Regiment
5th Engineer Regiment
1st Tank Regiment
42nd Infantry Regiment
5th Recon Regiment
12th Engineer Regiment
41st Infantry Regiment
84th JAAF AF Bn
5th Field Artillery Regiment
5th Field Construction Battalion
25th Army
20th AA Regiment
5th JAAF AF Coy

Defending units:
FMSV Brigade
8th Indian Brigade
3rd ISF Base Force


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Ground combat at Makin (136,125)

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 1822 troops, 12 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 61

Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 0

Japanese adjusted assault: 55

Allied adjusted defense: 1

Japanese assault odds: 55 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Makin !!!

Combat modifiers
Attacker: shock(+), leaders(-)

Assaulting units:
51st Naval Guard Unit


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Ground combat at Aparri (82,73)

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 1835 troops, 19 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 60

Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 0

Japanese adjusted assault: 57

Allied adjusted defense: 1

Japanese assault odds: 57 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Aparri !!!

Combat modifiers
Attacker: shock(+), leaders(-)

Assaulting units:
Sasebo 1st SNLF






Bullwinkle58 -> RE: Fire on the Mountains - Paladin1 (A) vs MrKane (J) - No MrKane please! (3/14/2013 5:55:15 PM)

Advice, for what it's worth:

1) Forget his carriers for now. You have bigger problems. They're probably running for the barn.

2) Figure out your Malaysia strategy NOW. You just gave away Beests at KB for nothing, and they're a keystone of your Singers defense. Get your Malaysia air force south and safe for now. Get your TBs where there are torpedo-carrying HQs. (Load the Air HQs with torpedoes; they come empty.)

LCU-wise, Malaysia starts with the divisions fragmented. Figure out rally points for the pieces and parts and get them moving. Abandon wherever they're sitting if need be. If you leave them in frags they'll be chopped to pieces fast. Figure out where you're going south-wise and get moving. If it's a full Sir Robin to Singers do that. Get your engineers south and start digging NOW.

3) See what I meant about the PI and evacuating air? His landings there are pretty standard. He'll have big sweep units in there in less than a week.

4) Did you get Hong Kong clear of anything that floats? If not, get those ships out now.

5) It's possible to get a lot of stuff out of the PI and DEI to the EAST, across the Pac. He will probably use the MKB and surface patrols to plug the routes to Timor and Oz. Get Penguin out of Guam today.

6) Collect the merchants and try to group them by speed. Pick some rally points and get them out of the way. I send a lot straight to CT, but opinions differ. But don't let him feast for free.

7) Figure out China's first month and get LCUs moving. You can adjust later. A lot of orphans start all over the country-side there.

8) If you can, protect USS Boise and USS Houston. Don't do what I did. (See my AAR.)

9) Start moving OZ LCUs to re-combine bases. Figure out if you want to defend western Oz or not.

10) Get the ANZAC units spread all over northern NG moving to PM. They can walk home if you move now. Figure out what you want to do about Rabaul. You might have a few days, you might have a few months.

11) Figure out where you have to have sea patrols and get the Cats there and set up sector search. You don't have enough Cats, so be realistic.

12) Get Dutch Harbor building an air base. It's winter and it's at 0. It will take half of forever to get to AF 1.

13) Get Midway pumped up with some kind of CD unit and a base force. Start building. If you have an xAK handy, go fetch the fighters off Wake and put them at Midway.

Lots more, but that's a start. Every day in December 1941 is like five in 1943. GET THE METAL MOVING! Complicate his targeting. Save ships. Especially save subs.




Paladin1dcs -> RE: Fire on the Mountains - Paladin1 (A) vs MrKane (J) - No MrKane please! (3/14/2013 6:55:34 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Bullwinkle58

Advice, for what it's worth:

1) Forget his carriers for now. You have bigger problems. They're probably running for the barn.

2) Figure out your Malaysia strategy NOW. You just gave away Beests at KB for nothing, and they're a keystone of your Singers defense. Get your Malaysia air force south and safe for now. Get your TBs where there are torpedo-carrying HQs. (Load the Air HQs with torpedoes; they come empty.)

LCU-wise, Malaysia starts with the divisions fragmented. Figure out rally points for the pieces and parts and get them moving. Abandon wherever they're sitting if need be. If you leave them in frags they'll be chopped to pieces fast. Figure out where you're going south-wise and get moving. If it's a full Sir Robin to Singers do that. Get your engineers south and start digging NOW.

3) See what I meant about the PI and evacuating air? His landings there are pretty standard. He'll have big sweep units in there in less than a week.

4) Did you get Hong Kong clear of anything that floats? If not, get those ships out now.

5) It's possible to get a lot of stuff out of the PI and DEI to the EAST, across the Pac. He will probably use the MKB and surface patrols to plug the routes to Timor and Oz. Get Penguin out of Guam today.

6) Collect the merchants and try to group them by speed. Pick some rally points and get them out of the way. I send a lot straight to CT, but opinions differ. But don't let him feast for free.

7) Figure out China's first month and get LCUs moving. You can adjust later. A lot of orphans start all over the country-side there.

8) If you can, protect USS Boise and USS Houston. Don't do what I did. (See my AAR.)

9) Start moving OZ LCUs to re-combine bases. Figure out if you want to defend western Oz or not.

10) Get the ANZAC units spread all over northern NG moving to PM. They can walk home if you move now. Figure out what you want to do about Rabaul. You might have a few days, you might have a few months.

11) Figure out where you have to have sea patrols and get the Cats there and set up sector search. You don't have enough Cats, so be realistic.

12) Get Dutch Harbor building an air base. It's winter and it's at 0. It will take half of forever to get to AF 1.

13) Get Midway pumped up with some kind of CD unit and a base force. Start building. If you have an xAK handy, go fetch the fighters off Wake and put them at Midway.

Lots more, but that's a start. Every day in December 1941 is like five in 1943. GET THE METAL MOVING! Complicate his targeting. Save ships. Especially save subs.


I had a massive post ready, detailing my ideas, but Firefox decided that it had to take a nap RIGHT NOW!!! and I lost it. Long story short, it looked a lot like this, but with a few different details.

1. I actually outran his carriers yesterday and am in the process of putting my CVTF's in a mutually supporting position. I'll head back to PH tomorrow if I don't hear from the KB by then. Sara left SD for PH yesterday too along with her escorts and should be here within 10 days, IIRC.

2. Yeah, I lost several good planes when KB fell. After the first turn's attempt at closing Singer's airfield, I dispersed the LBs to two other air fields, but left the Beasts at Singers, along with my Swordfish, and loaded the 224th AHQ's torpedoe inventory. Hope that works out, but we'll see.

3. He's already sweeping Manila with 60+ Zeroes a day, so I stood the USAAF down, hoping to get the damaged units repaired and ready to evacuate. I'm sending out the B-17s tomorrow too, I just need to finish buying them out. They'll be going to Soerabaja first, then Oz when the time comes.

4. HK is clear, I emptied it out yesterday and grabbed as much fuel as possible while doing so. I may not make it to port with it, but I'll keep it out of his hands.

5. I'm looking into running East and I had forgotten about the little AM at Guam, good catch. I haven't seen MKB though and haven't even gotten a whiff of it from aircraft sightings either. When I did see the KB though, I noted that it had 9 CVs and one or two CVLs showing up in the detection levels. I think he went with a Deathstar, so that just means I'll have to be extra careful in the CenPac until I see some sign of where it went.

6. Merchants are already moving, some to CT to form up supply convoys and more to Colombo, Bombay, Madras, Calcutta and Perth to form secondary convoy legs. I don't intend to let him feast on anything, much less do so for free.

7. I've got Chinese orphans moving left, right and center. I'm trying to take Ichang and Sinyang, the former to form a MLR and the latter to disrupt his supply lines. I'll let him retake Sinyang without too much of a fight, as it should buy me a little time. Forts are being built as well and supplies are being channeled where necessasary.

8. I'm going to try to protect the Boise/Houston group, as I'm rather attached to Boise, so they'll only stay as long as it takes me to get those British CAs on station. After that, the B/H group will head for Australian waters where the DDs will undergo refits to APDs and the Boise/Houston will join the San Francisco and Indianapolis, along with a handful of Porter class DDs, to help the Aussies and Kiwis.

9. Oz LCUs started moving yesterday to their defensive positions to recombine on site. The majority of them will go to the Eastern coastline, but a small detachment (approx a division and a half) will hold Perth and Western Oz. Also, I sent a BG of B-26s and a FG of P-39s to CT for transport to Oz. They should be here by the middle of Jan.

10. I've started air lifting the Anzac troops out of Lae, there's a Transport TF headed to Rabaul to pick up the troops there and I'll pick up the others as the situation allows.

11. My Cats are at Midway, Johnston, Christmas and Palmyra. Additionally I've got three groups of Cats at PH and another six groups on the West Coast, plus the one at Kodiak. Four groups will stay on the WC, one will join the one in NorPac and the last one will start hopping towards SoPac. The two groups of Cats in the PI will be leaving soon to provide coverage along Northern Oz and eventually along Western Oz.

12. Good point about DH, I had forgotten about the effect of winter on construction. I'm also prepping a force to hold Adak, so there's that as well.

13. I agree on Midway, so I started building forts yesterday and started prepping a CD unit and an ENG unit as well. I'll see what I can do about salvaging those Wildcats from Wake, there's got to be an xAKL somewhere closeby.

14. I started rebuilding the 3rd Motor Brigade in Melbourne, allowing them to take reinforcements. They'll form the heart of the defense of Townsville until I can get some further units on station. I hope I have enough time to get troops where I need them.




Bullwinkle58 -> RE: Fire on the Mountains - Paladin1 (A) vs MrKane (J) - No MrKane please! (3/14/2013 7:30:57 PM)

He's sort of a newbie, so I don't know what he'll do at Singers. Most players start massive bombing as soon as KB falls, not so much to close the AF as stop fort-building. I've usually had to shuttle TBs in and out as needed. If they stay they get creamed. Also, a lot of Singers' near term future depends on what he does with northern Borneo and Singkawang.

Mixing CVLs and the KB is a rookie mistake IMO. Bigger is often not better. The MKB can cause all kinds of havoc around the DEI and PI. A lot more than a couple hundred more planes at Pearl, given the fuel/distance/time. Pearl is not a magic base, but many Japanese players think it is.

IMO nothing in the PI is worth PPs except the B-17s. Note that the D model has more range than the E. This is important sometimes.

Midway is usually too exposed to make it a true sub base for at least six months, but healthy subs can top off fuel there going and coming back. Buys you a week or more extra station time on deep penetration patrols.




Paladin1dcs -> RE: Fire on the Mountains - Paladin1 (A) vs MrKane (J) - No MrKane please! (3/14/2013 7:47:55 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Bullwinkle58

He's sort of a newbie, so I don't know what he'll do at Singers. Most players start massive bombing as soon as KB falls, not so much to close the AF as stop fort-building. I've usually had to shuttle TBs in and out as needed. If they stay they get creamed. Also, a lot of Singers' near term future depends on what he does with northern Borneo and Singkawang.

Mixing CVLs and the KB is a rookie mistake IMO. Bigger is often not better. The MKB can cause all kinds of havoc around the DEI and PI. A lot more than a couple hundred more planes at Pearl, given the fuel/distance/time. Pearl is not a magic base, but many Japanese players think it is.

IMO nothing in the PI is worth PPs except the B-17s. Note that the D model has more range than the E. This is important sometimes.

Midway is usually too exposed to make it a true sub base for at least six months, but healthy subs can top off fuel there going and coming back. Buys you a week or more extra station time on deep penetration patrols.

I'm not sure what he's doing with North Borneo, TBH. I've got scouts watching the approaches, but haven't seen any invasion ships yet. For that matter, I should be seeing more invasion TFs along the Malayan coast, but so far I only see one headed towards Mersing. I started moving the two Aussie brigades and a few other support units to Mersing on day 1, so I should be in position to welcome them.

In regards to the PP cost for pulling out those fighters, isn't that determined by the number of airframes left when you try to buy them out? If so, the two FG fragments in the PI should be fairly cheap. [8|] As for the B-17's, I'm aware that the D model has a longer range than the others, but since there's no replacement frames for them and these groups are sent back in April, I'm thinking of shuffling some of my other B-17 training groups around to use other air frames as they become available and using the spare D frames to support this BG in Northern Oz.

Since Midway is too exposed at this point, what level of naval support do you think I should post there? Just a couple of AOs and an AS which I can scramble out of the way should I need too or just build up the docks to refuel directly from the island and stock it well with AA and CD units?




Canoerebel -> RE: Fire on the Mountains - Paladin1 (A) vs MrKane (J) - No MrKane please! (3/14/2013 7:57:02 PM)

You shouldn't post any valuable ships at Midway early in the war.  Putting them there is a great way to find them ambushed and sunk.  Your AO and AS are way too valuable to risk.  You might send forward to Midway some supply and reinforcements (one of the Pearl Marine CD units is prepping for Midway).  You can send in small TFs, breaking up the CD unit so that it comes in over time so that you don't risk losing it.




geofflambert -> RE: Fire on the Mountains - Paladin1 (A) vs MrKane (J) - No MrKane please! (3/14/2013 7:58:38 PM)

Good luck in Burma. If he's an experienced player (it appears that he's not) he'll roll you up back to the border of India and if he's done enough damage to your forces along the way, he'll keep on going. Against an experienced player, the only way you'll reinforce Pt. Moresby is if you do it immediately. You'll have time to get some US help defending Oz and in my opinion, PM is worth trying to hold as long as possible. Unless I missed it you didn't mention Darwin. The only thing to do there is to have regular supply convoys starting very quickly (from Perth I think) and load her to the gills so that she can hold out for a long time. His capacity to bomb your supplies there to oblivion will be nil for quite a while and you can move some of it to Katherine for safe keeping. Absolutely yes on getting as much oil out of Java and to Oz, you'll need it there, and the more you have there the more aggressive you will be able to be. I would think about Canton, Christmas, Palmyra and Johnston islands and move right away on them. Canton island would be a great forward base for his surface raiders and subs and all would be very valuable to him to place search planes on. You have to worry about your supply lines. Also Christmas can and may become an important base for you depending on how things develop. I would station cruiser forces at Pago Pago and Christmas to counter any AMCs he might send. Remember some of those have search planes. As to Force Z, consider this: They're the only relatively fast BBs you have, and if you want to be aggressive with your carriers, they would be nice to have along for escort (in a separate TF from the CVs). If you like that idea I'd send them to Aukland for safe keeping until your CVs arrive.

Don't let your TKs sit around doing nothing ever. Also don't forget that you can move fuel (less efficiently) with xAKs and AKLs. Also don't forget you can use their own fuel tanks as oilers to refuel your TFs where no other fuel is to be found.

edit: Yes I know the Brits will take a dim view of having PoW and Repulse escort the US CV's. Tell them to suck on it.

Oh, and don't try to use your carriers to evacuate the Wildcats on Wake. Just hit the withdraw button, they'll come back later.




Paladin1dcs -> RE: Fire on the Mountains - Paladin1 (A) vs MrKane (J) - No MrKane please! (3/14/2013 8:11:56 PM)

So I've got a few questions about the IJN's composition. How many Carrier type ships (CV/CVL/CVE) do they start with? I know that there's six CVs in the KB normally and something like four or six CVLs/CVEs in the Mini-KB, but what about the others? Am I only looking at these to start with?

Also, I've yet to see a single IJN BB or CB and only a small number of CAs (less than four) so far. Usually they show up on day one, with a couple of the old IJN BBs bombarding KB in Malaya. Instead, all I've seen are Sendai class CLs and a few DDs here and there. Any ideas on where the rest of the IJN surface units may be? Is there something that I'm missing here?




Paladin1dcs -> RE: Fire on the Mountains - Paladin1 (A) vs MrKane (J) - No MrKane please! (3/14/2013 8:14:42 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Canoerebel

You shouldn't post any valuable ships at Midway early in the war.  Putting them there is a great way to find them ambushed and sunk.  Your AO and AS are way too valuable to risk.  You might send forward to Midway some supply and reinforcements (one of the Pearl Marine CD units is prepping for Midway).  You can send in small TFs, breaking up the CD unit so that it comes in over time so that you don't risk losing it.

That's kind of what I was leaning towards, but wasn't sure about dedicating LCUs which could be bombed as opposed to ships which could run. Granted, they'd probably still get sunk, but that was my thought. So how far back from the front do you guys usually build your sub bases? Would Christmas Is. work as a good base? I had already planned on building it up and was starting to gather the units needed to do so, but if it would make a good sub base, I'll just tweak the unit mix a little and incorporate that as well.




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