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Vanman -> Assorted questions..... (3/7/2013 1:02:07 AM)

Greetings all.

1. Regarding the boardgame (or I suppose potentially CWIF as well), out of the 8 major powers, rank your most favourite to least favourite to play. Then for your favourite, state why you like playing that power the best.

2. I remember playing the boardgame ages ago (5th edition) and found playing, particularly Germany, very difficult and demoralizing in the years when you are being pushed back on all fronts (44', 45' particularly). I never quit but can still remember the feeling of frustration and despondency periodically. Even trying to get in a good counterattack was tough. In a situation such as that, what do you tend to look for in terms of opportunities? Or what do you do to stay hopeful?

3. Assuming two evenly matched players, what is, from your experience, the survival rate of the Soviet Union in the face of the Wehrmacht a la Barbarossa? Place a percentage on it. What do you think it should be? I know there are alot of variables in regards the this question....so play along.

4. Anyone ever tried a status quo approach in regards to playing Japan vs China. If the Japanese take a relatively non-aggressive approach to China in 39', 40' and 41' and this delays US entry by two turns, is that not potentially worth it?




SLAAKMAN -> RE: Assorted questions..... (3/7/2013 3:53:15 AM)

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Greetings all.

1. Regarding the boardgame (or I suppose potentially CWIF as well), out of the 8 major powers, rank your most favourite to least favourite to play. Then for your favourite, state why you like playing that power the best.

1) ITALY
2) GERMANY
3) JAPAN
(THE MIGHTY SLAAKMAN DOESNT DO ALLIES YET. MAYBE IN 20-30 YEARS ILL GIVE THEM A SHOT). [:'(]

Reason: Italy has the most dynamic position of all Axis powers to inflict the greatest damage on the Allies. Controlling Mare Nostrom is the key to Axis victory. [sm=00000289.gif]
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2. I remember playing the boardgame ages ago (5th edition) and found playing, particularly Germany, very difficult and demoralizing in the years when you are being pushed back on all fronts (44', 45' particularly). I never quit but can still remember the feeling of frustration and despondency periodically. Even trying to get in a good counterattack was tough. In a situation such as that, what do you tend to look for in terms of opportunities? Or what do you do to stay hopeful?

Have only played 5th Ed once & spent the past 8 years doing WiFFE with mods. My Axis partners & I have never been thrown out of Russia & always took Leningrad, Smolensk, Kiev, Kharkov, Rostov, Vladivostok, the Caucasus (and one year also Stalingrad). We dont allow Russia to dominate.[:D]

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3. Assuming two evenly matched players, what is, from your experience, the survival rate of the Soviet Union in the face of the Wehrmacht a la Barbarossa? Place a percentage on it. What do you think it should be? I know there are alot of variables in regards the this question....so play along.

If my handpicked team plays Axis with me as Italy, there is a 0% chance the Reds will be anything but roving band of partisans by the summer of '44. [:'(]

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4. Anyone ever tried a status quo approach in regards to playing Japan vs China. If the Japanese take a relatively non-aggressive approach to China in 39', 40' and 41' and this delays US entry by two turns, is that not potentially worth it?

Its not worth it to delay the US by letting China slide. There are better ways to neutralize the US threat while containing China & keeping the Brits in check. Of course those methodes are Classified. [sm=00000506.gif]

(Silly Warspite1-Newblette's SIS has ears in the walls so I kept it brief to the befuddlement of his SIS).
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tigercub -> RE: Assorted questions..... (3/7/2013 3:45:01 PM)

Heads up SLAAKMAN with u playing the Italy and myself Germany we will be in a strong team to kick Warspite Butt! if he so wants!

Tigercub




Extraneous -> RE: Assorted questions..... (3/7/2013 4:54:04 PM)

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1. Regarding the board game (or I suppose potentially CWIF as well), out of the 8 major powers, rank your most favorite to least favorite to play. Then for your favorite, state why you like playing that power the best.

2. I remember playing the board game ages ago (5th edition) and found playing, particularly Germany, very difficult and demoralizing in the years when you are being pushed back on all fronts (44', 45' particularly). I never quit but can still remember the feeling of frustration and despondency periodically. Even trying to get in a good counterattack was tough. In a situation such as that, what do you tend to look for in terms of opportunities? Or what do you do to stay hopeful?

3. Assuming two evenly matched players, what is, from your experience, the survival rate of the Soviet Union in the face of the Wehrmacht a la Barbarossa? Place a percentage on it. What do you think it should be? I know there are a lot of variables in regards to this question... so play along.

4. Anyone ever tried a status quo approach in regards to playing Japan vs. China. If the Japanese take a relatively non-aggressive approach to China in 39', 40' and 41' and this delays US entry by two turns, is that not potentially worth it?


1. [:D]
A. USSR
B. USA
C. Commonwealth
D. China
E. Germany
F. Italy
G. France


2. Chances to hit without being hit back.

3. Are you talking about the Barbarossa scenario or Operation Barbarossa? If its the Barbarossa scenario USSR 30% Germany 70%.

4, There is no status quo in China (say hello to a lot of partisans).






Centuur -> RE: Assorted questions..... (3/7/2013 5:01:42 PM)

A: USSR
B: Italy
C: Japan
D: Germany
E: CW
F: China
G: France
H: USA

Now Slaakman, I like to play against your overwhelming assault on the USSR... Let's see if you can wreck my defenses...

2.: That's a difficult one. It depends on the time left in the game. It isn't unusual to see the Axis end with just enough victory cities to win... Counterattacks in 1944-'45 tend to end up in favour of the allies, who have more units they can lose than you, so don't counterattack, unless you are almost sure that you don't lose any key units.

3. I haven't got a clue. Personally, I think that with a decent defense, the USSR will survive in about 75% of the games. The most important thing is the weather in the USSR. If it turns bad (or stays bad) in the spring or autumn turns, the USSR is saved. However, if the weather stays fine, the USSR is usually in trouble...

4. A status quo in China is possible, however in MWIF I wouldn't suggest it. The unified map sure makes things easy for partisans appearing all over the place...





warspite1 -> RE: Assorted questions..... (3/7/2013 7:22:15 PM)


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ORIGINAL: tigercub

Heads up SLAAKMAN with u playing the Italy and myself Germany we will be in a strong team to kick Warspite Butt! if he so wants!

Tigercub
warspite1

Bring it on buddy - me, the Ormster and Empire will kick your Axis butts from here to...er....some way along way away...or something....er....




warspite1 -> RE: Assorted questions..... (3/7/2013 7:23:44 PM)

In answer to the first question I always played Allies vs Axis. That way whichever side you are on you get one big land army each - Russia or Germany, and one big carrier based navy each - Japan or the US. FUN!!!




Vanman -> RE: Assorted questions..... (3/7/2013 7:27:24 PM)

Thanks for the "heads up". I meant the campaign, not the Barbarossa scenario where the Soviets are required (I believe) to bunch up along the border.





SLAAKMAN -> RE: Assorted questions..... (3/8/2013 2:12:53 AM)

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ORIGINAL: tigercub

Heads up SLAAKMAN with u playing the Italy and myself Germany we will be in a strong team to kick Warspite Butt! if he so wants!

Tigercub

warspite1

Bring it on buddy - me, the Ormster and Empire will kick your Axis butts from here to...er....some way along way away...or something....er....
[sm=00000622.gif] [:'(]
Silly Warspite-Newblette. Your fleets & your foodstuffs will belong to us just as "all your base are belongs to us!"
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tigercub -> RE: Assorted questions..... (3/8/2013 4:46:54 AM)

oh crystal ball i see a big Axis lake called the mediterranean....




SLAAKMAN -> RE: Assorted questions..... (3/8/2013 6:35:33 AM)

Centuur,
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Now Slaakman, I like to play against your overwhelming assault on the USSR... Let's see if you can wreck my defenses...

Consider yourself pillaged & burned!! [:'(]


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warspite1 -> RE: Assorted questions..... (3/8/2013 7:28:41 AM)


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ORIGINAL: tigercub

oh crystal ball i see a big Axis lake called the mediterranean....
warspite1

You aren't the first to dream this....and we know what happened to the last buffoon that did!!




SLAAKMAN -> RE: Assorted questions..... (3/8/2013 3:28:01 PM)

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warspite1

Surrender the Med to my Fleet of Roman Austerity or face your Doom!
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warspite1 -> RE: Assorted questions..... (3/9/2013 4:09:39 PM)


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ORIGINAL: SLAAKMAN

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warspite1

Surrender the Med to my Fleet of Roman Austerity or face your Doom!
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warspite1

Get your tongue out of Adolf's bottom and stop being such a naughty boy...or I will send the Royal Navy to sort you out. [:-]




SLAAKMAN -> RE: Assorted questions..... (3/9/2013 6:19:35 PM)

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warspite1

Get your tongue out of Adolf's bottom and stop being such a naughty boy...or I will send the Royal Navy to sort you out.

I was hoping you'd say that. In fact, Ill bet you say that to all the Boys, Silly Warspite1-Newblette. Time to sortie the Fleet. [sm=00000023.gif]
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On a hot summer night Would you offer your throat to the wolf with the red roses?
Will he offer me his mouth? Yes Will he offer me his teeth? Yes Will he offer me his jaws? Yes Will he offer me his hunger? Yes
Again, will he offer me his hunger? Yes And will he starve without me? Yes And does he love me? Yes Yes
On a hot summer night Would you offer your throat to the wolf with the red roses? Yes I bet you say that to all the boys.

You took the words right out of my mouth!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1fAPEUWowEc
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michaelbaldur -> RE: Assorted questions..... (3/9/2013 6:49:38 PM)


my experiences tell me that people that have won a legendary victory in WIF. have been legendary cheaters




warspite1 -> RE: Assorted questions..... (3/9/2013 7:00:17 PM)


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ORIGINAL: SLAAKMAN

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warspite1

Get your tongue out of Adolf's bottom and stop being such a naughty boy...or I will send the Royal Navy to sort you out.

I was hoping you'd say that. In fact, Ill bet you say that to all the Boys, Silly Warspite1-Newblette. Time to sortie the Fleet. [sm=00000023.gif]

warspite1

All the boys Slaakers? No, no - just the silly little fascists who have grown too big for their lederhosen, Kimonos and er...whatever the Italians wear [;)]

The officers and men of the RN are ready and merely awaiting the day this baby is launched, in order to send the RM to the bottom of the Med where they belong - except of course for the subs which I shall bring to the surface [:)].




SLAAKMAN -> RE: Assorted questions..... (3/9/2013 9:54:51 PM)

michaelbaldur,
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my experiences tell me that people that have won a legendary victory in WIF. have been legendary cheaters

Oh come now Mr M, even though Warspite1 is a stubborn & impetuous Silly-Newblette, I doubt he would stoop so low to disgrace his defeat with the dishonor of such a last stand measure unless he was either drunk or incapacitated. [:'(]

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The officers and men of the RN are ready and merely awaiting the day this baby is launched, in order to send the RM to the bottom of the Med where they belong - except of course for the subs which I shall bring to the surface

Im ready whenever U R! Hajime!!: http://www.vassalengine.org/wiki/Module:World_in_Flames

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er...whatever the Italians wear

KABOOOOOM!!!
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ezz -> RE: Assorted questions..... (3/9/2013 10:56:21 PM)

Allegedly it was once reported to Admiral Cunningham that an opposing and defeated Italian Admiral had kept a copy of the 'Life of Nelson' by his bedside.

Cunningham - "Hmmm..Evidently he never read it."




Extraneous -> RE: Assorted questions..... (3/9/2013 11:05:27 PM)

We the peaceful peoples of the Glorious Union of Soviet Socialist Republics request 50,000 radio tubes for mother Russia's invincible armies from the Imperialist um... our trusted stalwart British and American Allies. They will not be refused even if they are attached to vehicles and aircraft.

Ah, if only the game were to allow all the Project 23 (16x Soyus-class) battleships to be built.

Soyus-class battleship
Displacement:
59,150t (58,220 long tons) (standard)
65,150t (64,120 long tons) (full load)

Length: 269.4m (883 ft 10 in)
Beam: 38.9m (127 ft 7 in)
Draft: 10.4m (34 ft 1 in)

Installed power: 201,000 shp (150,000 kW) 6 triangle-type boilers
Propulsion: 3 shafts, Brown Boveri steam turbines

Speed: 28 knots (52 km/h; 32 mph)

Endurance: 7,680 nmi (14,220km; 8,840 mi) at 14 knots (26 km/h; 16mph)

Armament:
33 406mm (16.0 in) B-37 guns
62 152mm (6.0 in) B-38 guns
62 100mm (3.9 in) B-34 DP guns
104 37mm (1.5 in) 61-K AA guns

Armor:
Waterline belt: 180420mm (7.116.5 in)
Deck: 25155mm (1.06.1 in)
Turrets: 230495mm (9.119.5 in)
Barbettes: 425mm (16.7 in)
Bulkheads: 75365mm (3.014.4 in)
Conning tower: 425mm (16.7 in)

Aircraft carried: 4x KOR-2 flying boats
Aviation facilities: 2 aircraft catapults





SLAAKMAN -> RE: Assorted questions..... (3/10/2013 2:11:02 AM)

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Ah, if only the game were to allow all the Project 23 (16x Soyus-class) battleships to be built.

Soyus-class battleship
Displacement:
59,150t (58,220 long tons) (standard)
65,150t (64,120 long tons) (full load)

The bigger they are, the faster they sink!
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Allegedly it was once reported to Admiral Cunningham that an opposing and defeated Italian Admiral had kept a copy of the 'Life of Nelson' by his bedside.

Cunningham - "Hmmm..Evidently he never read it."

I never did either so maybe you should enter the Med & have a party(says the octopus to the shrimp)! [:'(]
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warspite1 -> RE: Assorted questions..... (3/10/2013 3:46:10 AM)


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ORIGINAL: SLAAKMAN


I never did either so maybe you should enter the Med & have a party(says the octopus to the shrimp)! [:'(]
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warspite1

We did - but you wouldn't party, you kept running away - Calabria, Spartivento, Sirte, Matapan etc etc. [:D]




SLAAKMAN -> RE: Assorted questions..... (3/10/2013 6:58:50 AM)

You so conveniently missed the obvious, W1: [:-] [:'(]

Im ready whenever U R! Hajime!!: http://www.vassalengine.org/wiki/Module:World_in_Flames

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warspite1

We did - but you wouldn't party, you kept running away - Calabria, Spartivento, Sirte, Matapan etc etc.

Oh we're running away & chickening out & our liver is bad & our spleen is no good, cuz hes brave, brave Sir Warspite1!! Hes brave, brave Sir Warspite!




warspite1 -> RE: Assorted questions..... (3/10/2013 10:32:21 AM)


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ORIGINAL: SLAAKMAN

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warspite1

We did - but you wouldn't party, you kept running away - Calabria, Spartivento, Sirte, Matapan etc etc.

Oh we're running away & chickening out & our liver is bad & our spleen is no good, cuz hes brave, brave Sir Warspite1!! Hes brave, brave Sir Warspite!
warspite1

Er...quite [:)]




Extraneous -> RE: Assorted questions..... (3/10/2013 9:18:35 PM)

But Capo del SLAAKMAN that is not a Sovetsky Soyuz class battleship it only has 2 guns in the main turrets not 3.

The Glorious Russian people invented triple turrets on ships.



Is the photograph in your post # 13 of the Novorossiysk?.



[:D] All your battleships belong to us. [:D]




SLAAKMAN -> RE: Assorted questions..... (3/10/2013 10:02:34 PM)

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But Capo del SLAAKMAN that is not a Sovetsky Soyuz class battleship it only has 2 guns in the main turrets not 3.
The Glorious Russian people invented triple turrets on ships.
Is the photograph in your post # 13 of the Novorossiysk?.

Silly Extraneous-Newblette that is a photo of the Commie State Bucket- Ka-Sunkovinto-Drinkov. Her fate is only a shadow of the glory to come if only Warspite1 will stop cowering behind the outhouse & load up vasselengine for an adhoc attack!! On your feet soldat!

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All your battleships belong to us.

(All your women will belong to me). [:D]
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brian brian -> RE: Assorted questions..... (3/11/2013 2:16:30 AM)

1) Japan, Italy, Russia, CW, Germany, USA, China, France

Japan because you have to do land-air-sea ops and you have a plethora of strategic choices. The CW has the same, but Japan has a bit less room for error. Italy also must make choices very carefully. I rank Russia higher than CW because it is an incredible challenge to survive Barbarossa, and if you do, the Red Army on the attack is an awesome thing to command.

2) The key to playing World in Flames, for either side, is the ability to be satisfied building a good defense. There is no perfect defense. Your units get removed from the board. Get over it. If you can only feel satisfied in wargaming by winning a land combat as the attacker, even when you are strategically on the defensive, you will never do very well playing World in Flames. Sometimes you have to hunker down and play solid defense. This is true of every Major Power in the game. But this is where a great many players fail, lose the game several times, and move on to some other game.

3) The survival rate of Russia in Barbarossa is too variable to put a % on. Perhaps the bigger variable is the skill of the CW & US players....

4) Going slow in China is certainly a valid Japanese strategy. The winner of 2 turns of delayed entry for the USA is ... Germany. But so many Axis players find all of their glory in the attack (see item #1 above), and they ignore the implications of US Entry. These are the ones who tend to cry their way through 1944 about how unfair the game is.




SLAAKMAN -> RE: Assorted questions..... (3/11/2013 4:38:31 AM)

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4) Going slow in China is certainly a valid Japanese strategy. The winner of 2 turns of delayed entry for the USA is ... Germany. But so many Axis players find all of their glory in the attack (see item #1 above), and they ignore the implications of US Entry. These are the ones who tend to cry their way through 1944 about how unfair the game is.

(Ive only encountered Allied tears & I will again when W1 & his beleaguered crew drown in the Indian Ocean).
Hilfskreuzer Atlantis
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Extraneous -> RE: Assorted questions..... (3/11/2013 5:30:25 PM)

Comrade Capo del SLAAKMAN those are not women those are solders.

Of the top 10 snipers of World War II number four was a Fin the rest were Soviets.





SLAAKMAN -> RE: Assorted questions..... (3/11/2013 9:24:48 PM)

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Comrade Capo del SLAAKMAN those are not women those are solders.

Of the top 10 snipers of World War II number four was a Fin the rest were Soviets.

Silly Extraneous-Newblette, of course theyre women. Theyve been converted to Slaaknarchism & now serve in my Special Seduction Auxillary Korps to destroy evil Marxist spies, saboteurs & provocateurs. Roza Shanina, the Julie Christie doppelganger in the first photo is my own personal "adjutant" who stokes my fire with Cognac & Vigor on a nightly basis. [sm=00000289.gif]
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