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STEF78 -> Sur les traces de l'empereur / Tracking Napo (Vorsteher welcome) (3/2/2013 1:05:27 AM)

Having read a lot of AAR, I will try to share my own experience while describing my game against Vorsteher (GC260, server game, non random weather). Of course, like Napo in 1812, I'm the invader and he tries to defend Mother Russia. As you noticed, I'm not native english speaking. It's my 4th GC41 as GHC versus a human. 2 wins, 2 ongoing. It's the first time I enter summer 1942.

We did a traditional first year.

GHC took on 1941 Leningrad and we begun blizzard on a line following Ladoga, Ilmen, VL, Smolensk, Orel Kursk Karkhov, and south to the sea. The gain in territory isn't impressive but I was focused on encirclement. Losses on turn 24 were as follow:

[IMG]http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/282607Image12.jpg[/IMG]

As illustration, on the first turn of blizzard, northern part of the front

[IMG]http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/680172Image13.jpg[/IMG]

The center

[IMG]http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/682848centre24.jpg[/IMG]

The southern part

[IMG]http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/247472Image14.jpg[/IMG]

And Crimea
[img]http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/598099crmea24.jpg[/img]




STEF78 -> Sur les traces de l'empereur / Following Napo (Vorsteher welcome) (3/2/2013 1:30:22 AM)

First major error during the blizzard, I try to hold the line...

Losses are climbing, see below on turn 37, 26/02/1942

[img]http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/122023Image15.jpg[/img]

And I lose between five to ten hexes from north to south.




STEF78 -> Sur les traces de l'empereur / Tracking Napo (Vorsteher welcome) (3/2/2013 1:40:46 AM)

Then I begin to grind from March to mid june. We are now on turn 55, 02/07/1942, summer begins and it's my last summer of offensive

Losses

[img]http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/340229Image1.jpg[/img]

Nothern Front

[IMG]http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/123790frontnord55.jpg[/IMG]

Southern Front

[img]http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/918205frontsud55.jpg[/img]




STEF78 -> Sur les traces de l'empereur / Tracking Napo (Vorsteher welcome) (3/2/2013 1:57:51 AM)

Focus on the Stalino sector. I've decided to hit here and try to maintain SHC OOB close to 6M

[IMG]http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/550071Image9.jpg[/IMG][/URL][/image]

And the OOB

[img]http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/945178Image8.jpg[/img]




STEF78 -> Sur les traces de l'empereur / Tracking Napo (Vorsteher welcome) (3/2/2013 10:23:42 AM)

Turn 56, 9 July 1942

Key decision, the target will not be Stalingrad or Caspian Sea but upper Don and Voronej. The nut is big, but I will try to crack it.

[img]http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/354368fron56.jpg[/img]

And the SHC OOB is declining for the dirst time since several weeks

[img]http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/777238shcoob56.jpg[/img]

GHC OOB

[img]http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/347578ghcoob56.jpg[/img]

I suppose that SHC will react strongly




STEF78 -> Sur les traces de l'empereur / Tracking Napo (Vorsteher welcome) (3/2/2013 10:31:25 AM)

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[img]http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/668395glory.jpg[/img]

First star!

On the path to glory?




Cannonfodder -> RE: Sur les traces de l'empereur / Tracking Napo (Vorsteher welcome) (3/2/2013 11:30:58 AM)

Hi Stef,

Looks like you are doing pretty good! How would have not standing your ground during blizzard have changed the game? Would your army be in better shape?





STEF78 -> RE: Sur les traces de l'empereur / Tracking Napo (Vorsteher welcome) (3/2/2013 12:05:05 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Cannonfodder

Hi Stef,

Looks like you are doing pretty good! How would have not standing your ground during blizzard have changed the game? Would your army be in better shape?




I suffered a lot of retreats during the blizzard and I had to use most of my pzd/mot to stop the SHC The consequence is shown below, I have few INF div with good morale

[img]http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/426886mrl.jpg[/img]




Cannonfodder -> RE: Sur les traces de l'empereur / Tracking Napo (Vorsteher welcome) (3/2/2013 4:35:03 PM)

I don't know if that is good or bad to be honest. The morale drop is hardcoded for the most part. As long as you get chances to grind away at the soviets you might still recover a bit.




STEF78 -> RE: Sur les traces de l'empereur / Tracking Napo (Vorsteher welcome) (3/2/2013 5:49:05 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Cannonfodder

I don't know if that is good or bad to be honest. The morale drop is hardcoded for the most part. As long as you get chances to grind away at the soviets you might still recover a bit.

From my experience, having a bulk of Inf with morale > 80 is very helpfull to breach level 3 entrenchment.




STEF78 -> Sur les traces de l'empereur / Tracking Napo (Vorsteher welcome) (3/2/2013 6:18:20 PM)

Turn 57, 16 July 1942

My Pzd/Mot are moving west to close the pocket. SHC is gathering reinforcements and counterattacks near Rostov. I choose to be weak near Rostov and strong west of Boduchar.

GHC Infs also attack from the west.

But it's 2 hexes too far and I realize it would have been better keeping a PZG on the other side... Too late, too stupid, success is not guaranted!

[img]http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/54483957move.jpg[/img]




STEF78 -> Sur les traces de l'empereur / Tracking Napo (Vorsteher welcome) (3/2/2013 6:22:57 PM)

A short view of the units destroyed during the last turns

[img]http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/516902destroyed57.jpg[/img]

And the OOB, SHC is still above 6,2M

[img]http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/854005oob57.jpg[/img]




STEF78 -> Sur les traces de l'empereur / Tracking Napo (Vorsteher welcome) (3/3/2013 7:42:39 AM)

Turn 58, 23 July 1942

Heavy counterattacks from the SHC from Rostov to Boduchar. My PZG are isolated.

[img]http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/782515shc58.jpg[/img]




STEF78 -> RE: Sur les traces de l'empereur / Tracking Napo (Vorsteher welcome) (3/3/2013 7:47:27 AM)

I break the pocket and maintain the pressure on the SHC. I keep losing ground near Rostov.

[img]http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/221511ghc58.jpg[/img]




STEF78 -> Sur les traces de l'empereur / Tracking Napo (Vorsteher welcome) (3/3/2013 7:49:33 AM)

The OOB, SHC is below 6.2M

[img]http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/618519oob58.jpg[/img]




STEF78 -> Sur les traces de l'empereur / Tracking Napo (Vorsteher welcome) (3/3/2013 7:55:12 AM)

But looking closely, things are not as good, I'm burning my AFV and planes at high rate since the beginning of the summer offensive. SHC can afford such rate of losses, GHC can't.

[img]http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/13540758bilan.jpg[/img]

The loss ratio for AFV and planes must be much greater than to 3 for1!




juret -> RE: Sur les traces de l'empereur / Tracking Napo (Vorsteher welcome) (3/3/2013 11:05:56 AM)

nice battle!




rrbill -> RE: Sur les traces de l'empereur / Tracking Napo (Vorsteher welcome) (3/3/2013 1:37:19 PM)

Enjoying your AARs. Good analysis and presentation. Also appreciate your aggresive strategy-mistakes (?) and all.

Seems whenever (not just your game) GHC mixes it up with STAVKA, GHQ gets worn out too early. There are just too many Soviets, too much gear, and a simple strategy-organize the big push and do it.

If there is a winning Axis strategy, its yet to be seen by me in games of evenly matched opponents.

Good luck.




loki100 -> RE: Sur les traces de l'empereur / Tracking Napo (Vorsteher welcome) (3/3/2013 3:15:54 PM)

agree, like the way you are concentrating on the central issues. Interesting to see that while the Axis is still dangerous in 1942 - you can take what you want - the attrition aspect becomes limiting. I've only managed the 1941 scenarios so had little intuition as to how much the loss ratio equalises as the game goes on




STEF78 -> Sur les traces de l'empereur / Tracking Napo (Vorsteher welcome) (3/3/2013 5:32:18 PM)

Turn 59, 30 July 1942

As expected, SHC retry to isolate the spearheads, but it holds!

[img]http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/902904front59.jpg[/img]




STEF78 -> RE: Sur les traces de l'empereur / Tracking Napo (Vorsteher welcome) (3/3/2013 5:36:06 PM)

I pay for my mistake, having put all my PZG on the same side, and I'm unable to close the pocket as far north as wanted, I choose a medium term and a significant pocket (for me...) is closed.

[img]http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/258400frontsud59.jpg[/img]




STEF78 -> Sur les traces de l'empereur / Tracking Napo (Vorsteher welcome) (3/3/2013 5:39:35 PM)

I will send 2 German Inf Div between Rostov ans Vorochilovgrad. Rumanians aren't reliable against determined SHC

[img]http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/277280front59pressionsud.jpg[/img]




STEF78 -> RE: Sur les traces de l'empereur / Tracking Napo (Vorsteher welcome) (3/4/2013 8:43:36 PM)

Turn 60, 6 august 1942

SHC managed to re-open the pocket but my situation is firmer than during the previous turns

[img]http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/677293front60shc.jpg[/img]




STEF78 -> Sur les traces de l'empereur / Tracking Napo (Vorsteher welcome) (3/4/2013 8:47:53 PM)

This time the pocket is firmly closed

[img]http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/635073front60ghc.jpg[/img]




STEF78 -> RE: Sur les traces de l'empereur / Tracking Napo (Vorsteher welcome) (3/4/2013 8:53:48 PM)

On the south, I've lost Vorochilovgrad, GGRRRRRR, but I will be able to counterattack

[img]http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/196396frontshc60pressure.jpg[/img]




STEF78 -> Sur les traces de l'empereur / Tracking Napo (Vorsteher welcome) (3/4/2013 8:54:39 PM)

On the south, I've lost Vorochilovgrad, GGRRRRRR, but I will be able to counterattack

... and I'm so unhappy that I have posted the message twice!




STEF78 -> RE: Sur les traces de l'empereur / Tracking Napo (Vorsteher welcome) (3/4/2013 8:55:53 PM)

The line is re-established

[img]http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/206874frontghc60pressure.jpg[/img]




STEF78 -> RE: Sur les traces de l'empereur / Tracking Napo (Vorsteher welcome) (3/4/2013 9:03:07 PM)

And I noticed a very interesting fact.

In order to save his trapped army, my opponent has greatly weakened the other parts of the front. For example just north of the main battle zone

[img]http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/70646660northnodepth.jpg[/img]

And even south of Boguchar. This weak point is very closed from my PZG...

[img]http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/67167760vuegenerale.jpg[/img]




STEF78 -> RE: Sur les traces de l'empereur / Tracking Napo (Vorsteher welcome) (3/4/2013 9:08:36 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: juret

nice battle!

I really enjoy this game too!




STEF78 -> RE: Sur les traces de l'empereur / Tracking Napo (Vorsteher welcome) (3/4/2013 9:13:01 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: rrbill

Enjoying your AARs. Good analysis and presentation. Also appreciate your aggresive strategy-mistakes (?) and all.

Seems whenever (not just your game) GHC mixes it up with STAVKA, GHQ gets worn out too early. There are just too many Soviets, too much gear, and a simple strategy-organize the big push and do it.

If there is a winning Axis strategy, its yet to be seen by me in games of evenly matched opponents.

Good luck.

I'm also surprised with the capacity of the SHC to recover. SHC can afford heavy losses and also give ground. As GHC, you must be aggressive and try to do several encirclements. I don't see another way of winnng. (see Terje AAR as best example)




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