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hfarrish -> Soviet Support Unit Questions (11/21/2012 9:36:59 PM)


1) Is there any limit to the number of support units a particular HQ can commit to an action, either individually (i.e. Army) or in aggregate (i.e. Army and Front)?

2) What regulates the types of support units you can attach to Corps? Is it typically only infantry and armor, with artillery being not allowed?




carlkay58 -> RE: Soviet Support Unit Questions (11/21/2012 10:20:57 PM)

1) Not sure but I believe it is 3.

2) Whatever it allows you to attack to it. I have never had any problems attaching any type of SU to a Corps HQ (Soviet or Axis), but I know there is a limited selection for Soviet Corps units. If you go to Assign/Attach it will list the possible types you can attach to that Corps.




turtlefang -> RE: Soviet Support Unit Questions (11/21/2012 10:39:14 PM)

I don't have an absolute answer, and would appreciate some insight from someone who does know, but it's not quite that simple.

1) In a normal battle, I think the limit is three artillery units. I believe that you can then have additional non-artillery units committed, one of each type. I have seen more than three SUs in combat but don't ever remember seeing more than 3 artillery SUs.

2) In town and city combat, the number increases. I don't remember the town number, but in a full city hex, you can have up to 18 support units. Not sure of the mix of artillery and other units. And I have never come close to that many. However that is what the manual says and I know from my own experience that at least 9 SUs have been activated.

3) This doesn't count units directly attached to a corps unit. For example, if you have a heavy tank regiment attached to a Cav Combat Corps, the HQ supporting the Corps can then add its support unit on top of the corps unit.

4) I have seen mix reports regarding attaching Soviet SUs to Soviet Combat Corps (not HQs). I have been able to attach things ski battalions, Tank regiments, engineer units, and so on. However, I have tried repeately to attached artillery SUs to a Corps and not been able to - so either I'm doing something wrong (very possible), or it can't be done.

And my combats always (as far as I can remember) always involve more than one unit.

So the question would also be - is this per limit on each combat or each unit in the combat execution?

And how does this work if the defense - for example - comes from two separate armies? Is the limit a hard limit or does it double?




hfarrish -> RE: Soviet Support Unit Questions (11/22/2012 2:02:57 AM)


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ORIGINAL: carlkay58

1) Not sure but I believe it is 3.

2) Whatever it allows you to attack to it. I have never had any problems attaching any type of SU to a Corps HQ (Soviet or Axis), but I know there is a limited selection for Soviet Corps units. If you go to Assign/Attach it will list the possible types you can attach to that Corps.


3 total for the battle or three total per HQ? Thinking this must be HQ...as far as Corps my experience is that only Sappers, Tank and RR Brigades are available, but other than arty I am not building many other types so that probably is not an exhaustive list.




Wally Wilson -> RE: Soviet Support Unit Questions (11/22/2012 5:38:58 AM)

Six total SU's from all of HQ's involved in a single combat can be committed. In urban hexes its 18. SU's attached to combat units are always committed. The only combat units that artillery can be attached to are forts.




turtlefang -> RE: Soviet Support Unit Questions (11/24/2012 2:45:33 AM)

Thanks, for some reason I haven't been able to find a definitive answer.




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