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Saper222 -> Blitzkrieg in Russia - Saper222 vs Harrybanana (11/3/2012 6:46:52 PM)

Hi all! I lost first game vs Harrybanana and this rematch I want to destroy Soviet forces in 1941 year.
We are started. Random weather, no home rules.
North - I not take Riga, my panzers have 92-104% of fuel.
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Saper222 -> RE: Blitzkrieg in Russia - Saper222 vs Harrybanana (11/3/2012 6:50:13 PM)

Walter Model help me take Leningrad!

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Saper222 -> RE: Blitzkrieg in Russia - Saper222 vs Harrybanana (11/3/2012 6:52:31 PM)

In Center - standart pocket, panzer have 92-100 fuel

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Saper222 -> RE: Blitzkrieg in Russia - Saper222 vs Harrybanana (11/3/2012 7:01:34 PM)

on the South - pocket Rovno area ( I think - this is need for fast move) Panzer - 75-80% of fuel.

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Saper222 -> RE: Blitzkrieg in Russia - Saper222 vs Harrybanana (11/3/2012 7:05:02 PM)

and to Chernovsy - 70 - 80% of fuel

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Saper222 -> RE: Blitzkrieg in Russia - Saper222 vs Harrybanana (11/3/2012 7:12:04 PM)

For success my strategic I must active fighting against Soviet aviation - losses after my 1 tour

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TulliusDetritus -> RE: Blitzkrieg in Russia - Saper222 vs Harrybanana (11/3/2012 8:12:39 PM)

Let me be the first one to say this............... invading Russia eh? Traitor!!! [sm=scared0018.gif] [:D]

Jokes aside, I hope you do exactly what you did against M60. This should help to improve the game if there is indeed a problem.

Good luck and good hunt [:)]




Saper222 -> RE: Blitzkrieg in Russia - Saper222 vs Harrybanana (11/4/2012 6:42:49 AM)

T 2.
All pocket not re-opening by Soviet.
North - my panzer take Ostrov. Fuel - 20 - 35%, Totenkopf SS Mot.div. - 88%
Infantry prepare to assault Riga.

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Saper222 -> RE: Blitzkrieg in Russia - Saper222 vs Harrybanana (11/4/2012 6:46:01 AM)

On Center - panzer have 20-45 %, 20 Mot. div. - 85%

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Saper222 -> RE: Blitzkrieg in Russia - Saper222 vs Harrybanana (11/4/2012 6:55:17 AM)

In the South panzer have 30-50% of fuel, Mot.div. 75-150%
Hans Hube take command by XIV PzC
Air Losses after my move - 33/172 (Germany/Soviet)

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Pelton -> RE: Blitzkrieg in Russia - Saper222 vs Harrybanana (11/4/2012 12:51:17 PM)

So far nothing different then anyone esles first 2 turns.

AGN: just over river, standard turn 2
AGC: seems not as good as many turn 2's as the spearhead can easly be cut off
AGS: Again standard turn 2.

Same goes for supplies to units, nothing other then standard turn 2 stuff.

From what I have seen in AAR's the first 4 turns are the standard normal GHC openings post 1.06.11

Its turns 5-8 that matter as Railheads are very far behind the front.

It would be nice if we knew where railheads are at some point.




Saper222 -> RE: Blitzkrieg in Russia - Saper222 vs Harrybanana (11/5/2012 5:33:33 PM)

T3
The weather stop my troops. Europe and Central Zones is MUD. Clear pocket and supply panzers. Some bombing airbase. Air Losses 44/160
Gunther Korten take command by I Fliegerkorps.

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carlkay58 -> RE: Blitzkrieg in Russia - Saper222 vs Harrybanana (11/5/2012 11:41:43 PM)

A break in the movement on T3 is not too bad for the Axis. It relieves some of the pressure on the Soviets but it is also a bad supply turn for the Axis too. This will allow the rail heads and infantry to close up a bit while keeping the Soviets from being able to run too far - or to maneuver into defensible terrain. Turn 3 is also the Soviet reserves coming on line in Leningrad and Moscow areas. The mud will keep them pretty stationary (not that they are really worth anything until T5 with morale and TOE).




mevstedt -> RE: Blitzkrieg in Russia - Saper222 vs Harrybanana (11/6/2012 1:09:42 PM)

Turn 3 is usually first turn for HQ buildup also and the movement points lost don't feel that bad then. On the other hand it also depends on what the situation was after turn 2. Personally, turn 4 is the real killer if it gets muddy :P





Saper222 -> RE: Blitzkrieg in Russia - Saper222 vs Harrybanana (11/6/2012 2:34:42 PM)

I not used HQ buildup, I fight in the first blizzard and need for this full Motor Pool




carlkay58 -> RE: Blitzkrieg in Russia - Saper222 vs Harrybanana (11/6/2012 9:12:55 PM)

I have found that the Axis does much better with only one or two HQBU or even none. The supply situation in late 41 is markedly better without massive HQBUs.




gingerbread -> RE: Blitzkrieg in Russia - Saper222 vs Harrybanana (11/6/2012 10:21:44 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Saper222

I not used HQ buildup, I fight in the first blizzard and need for this full Motor Pool


I really like it when someone takes the opportunity cost (Wiki: Альтернативные издержки) into consideration.

There is another twist to the issue. If the Axis retreats a couple of hexes, it is the Soviet vehicles that will be lost in supply operations.




Saper222 -> RE: Blitzkrieg in Russia - Saper222 vs Harrybanana (11/11/2012 4:50:06 AM)

I wait infantry in North. Panzers - 25-40% of fuel

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Saper222 -> RE: Blitzkrieg in Russia - Saper222 vs Harrybanana (11/11/2012 4:54:37 AM)

Center. Panzer - 25-45%, Motorized - 50-75%

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Saper222 -> RE: Blitzkrieg in Russia - Saper222 vs Harrybanana (11/11/2012 4:58:19 AM)

Pocket on Kirovograd area. Panzer and Motorized - 4-60%
Air Losses 60/423

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Saper222 -> RE: Blitzkrieg in Russia - Saper222 vs Harrybanana (11/19/2012 6:30:09 PM)

T5
North - clear Pskov area

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Saper222 -> RE: Blitzkrieg in Russia - Saper222 vs Harrybanana (11/19/2012 6:47:09 PM)

Center - I move closely to defence line on Smolensk, no attack it, very high probability soviet held. I like this tactic - threat more effective then action. If the next tour soviet hold - I pocket his troops, if retreat - I move forward without battle and save fuel and tanks.

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Saper222 -> RE: Blitzkrieg in Russia - Saper222 vs Harrybanana (11/19/2012 6:49:48 PM)

South - closed pocket
Air losses 100/451

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Saper222 -> RE: Blitzkrieg in Russia - Saper222 vs Harrybanana (11/19/2012 7:04:26 PM)

I think, this is my last game with random weather. After T3 MUD I have low detect level of enemy units, include encircled (no det 10, only8)
This is my sole attack in Center

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Saper222 -> RE: Blitzkrieg in Russia - Saper222 vs Harrybanana (11/19/2012 7:15:25 PM)

T6
North

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Saper222 -> RE: Blitzkrieg in Russia - Saper222 vs Harrybanana (11/19/2012 7:16:16 PM)

Center

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Saper222 -> RE: Blitzkrieg in Russia - Saper222 vs Harrybanana (11/19/2012 7:17:11 PM)

South
Air losses 80/183

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Saper222 -> RE: Blitzkrieg in Russia - Saper222 vs Harrybanana (11/21/2012 4:56:13 PM)

T7
North - small pocket

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Saper222 -> RE: Blitzkrieg in Russia - Saper222 vs Harrybanana (11/21/2012 4:59:26 PM)

Center - move to Bryansk

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Saper222 -> RE: Blitzkrieg in Russia - Saper222 vs Harrybanana (11/21/2012 5:01:24 PM)

South
2 PG move to Kursk
Air losses 70/190

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