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burroughs -> Campaign for North Africa (Complete) by Bob Cross issue (10/3/2012 8:31:23 AM)

Hello fellow wargamers

I am in a dire need of technical advise. We have been playing, me and an opponent of mine, the above mentioned scenario under TOAW III 3.4, advanced options , no high supply. For some reason we were not able move past turn 60- each time I tried to load the other guy's game turn in the .pbl file format I was able to watch the replay, but then , on loading the scenario status, the interface was freezing at checking the Commonwealth replacements then the screen was going blank white and the program ceased to respond. We both redne our turns at some point,but the issue stroke again so there was apparently no other choice, but to deem the game imposible to be carried on to any kind of conclusion and move on to something else. I checked the files on each of my machines, I hapen to have four, two PC and two portable ones, laptops I mean, each one operating Windows XP SP 3. any ideas on the subject? We are considering going for McBride's " Braunschweig" or the like, but what about if the nasty thing cmes back to wreck the day?



Oberst_Klink -> RE: Campaign for North Africa (Complete) by Bob Cross issue (10/3/2012 9:43:20 AM)

Witam!

Could you be a bit more specific? I only encountered problems with CFNA when I played it on a 1.6Ghz 2GB RAM netbook. Becasue of the naval routine it hang up a few times. What are your specs?

Klink, Oberst



General Staff -> RE: Campaign for North Africa (Complete) by Bob Cross issue (10/3/2012 10:55:23 AM)


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ORIGINAL: burroughs

Any ideas on the subject?
That's a lot of wasted effort. Maybe if both of you email me a copy of your last PBEM turn with password, I'll try and load either/or/both and see what happens.

I've a fairly robust setup- decent laptop, Win7, all mod cons, so I've never had a problem IIRC I couldn't solve (except Opart 3.exe issues).

Oh, and you can usually trust me unless you're playing against me...



Curtis Lemay -> RE: Campaign for North Africa (Complete) by Bob Cross issue (10/3/2012 2:06:11 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: burroughs

Hello fellow wargamers

I am in a dire need of technical advise. We have been playing, me and an opponent of mine, the above mentioned scenario under TOAW III 3.4, advanced options , no high supply. For some reason we were not able move past turn 60- each time I tried to load the other guy's game turn in the .pbl file format I was able to watch the replay, but then , on loading the scenario status, the interface was freezing at checking the Commonwealth replacements then the screen was going blank white and the program ceased to respond. We both redne our turns at some point,but the issue stroke again so there was apparently no other choice, but to deem the game imposible to be carried on to any kind of conclusion and move on to something else. I checked the files on each of my machines, I hapen to have four, two PC and two portable ones, laptops I mean, each one operating Windows XP SP 3. any ideas on the subject? We are considering going for McBride's " Braunschweig" or the like, but what about if the nasty thing cmes back to wreck the day?


You're not waiting long enough. Give the calculations time to finish.



burroughs -> RE: Campaign for North Africa (Complete) by Bob Cross issue (10/3/2012 2:09:21 PM)

The laptops are Mobile DualCore Intel Core 2 Duo T5500, 1666 MHz (10 x 167), 1015 MB (DDR2-533 DDR2 SDRAM), the PCs range from 3.8 Ghz to 1,2 GHz and RAM 2GBs and 1 GB respectively, the laptops operate on integrated graphic cards Mobile Intel(R) 945 Express Chipset Family (224 MB), the PCs have Nvidia Geforce , the stronger one is GT 7600 series, the other one can't recall now, but I use that the least.Anything else? ... Thanks for the responses.



burroughs -> RE: Campaign for North Africa (Complete) by Bob Cross issue (10/3/2012 2:17:04 PM)

You mean over an hour? I think I have already tried that and it doesn't work, I haven't had such a problem with bigger scenarios, Falotti's WWI worked flawlessly everywhere for instance and I won't leave the PC on, leaving for work, just to have the turn loaded, I realy don't think it was designed to work that way, I can remember some generric "Operation>Flashpoint<" custom scenarios which did not allow to save the progress which was the game engine flaw that hadn't been designed to serve such purposes and that many scripts and strings at work so the guys used to leave thir machines on for days on end to make any progress ... No, thanks. There's something wrong with that.I saw the screen going blank wait and knew it was going to take somemore time, but no that much without any change to the game status, besides I am not that much desperate to play any scenario for such a cost in terms of the time and the effort and the awkward handling of the stuff.



burroughs -> RE: Campaign for North Africa (Complete) by Bob Cross issue (10/3/2012 2:19:45 PM)

So what's the mail address of Yours, Chris? ...



Curtis Lemay -> RE: Campaign for North Africa (Complete) by Bob Cross issue (10/3/2012 2:22:50 PM)


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ORIGINAL: burroughs

You mean over an hour? I think I have already tried that and it doesn't work, I haven't had such a problem with bigger scenarios, Falotti's WWI worked flawlessly everywhere for instance and I won't leave the PC on, leaving for work, just to have the turn loaded, I realy don't think it was designed to work that way, I can remember some generric "Operation>Flashpoint<" custom scenarios which did not allow to save the progress which was the game engine flaw that hadn't been designed to serve such purposes and that many scripts and strings at work so the guys used to leave thir machines on for days on end to make any progress ... No, thanks. There's something wrong with that.I saw the screen going blank wait and knew it was going to take somemore time, but no that much without any change to the game status, besides I am not that much desperate to play any scenario for such a cost in terms of the time and the effort and the awkward handling of the stuff.


As you wish, but that is the problem. You are not waiting long enough.



burroughs -> RE: Campaign for North Africa (Complete) by Bob Cross issue (10/3/2012 2:36:00 PM)

Ah, Mr. Bob Cross himself, I presume. Well, I guess that explains everything - but for : why me? ... Why us? ... Why the scenario? ...



Curtis Lemay -> RE: Campaign for North Africa (Complete) by Bob Cross issue (10/3/2012 2:50:27 PM)


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ORIGINAL: burroughs

Ah, Mr. Bob Cross himself, I presume. Well, I guess that explains everything - but for : why me? ... Why us? ... Why the scenario? ...


CFNA has a lot of deep water hexes. So ship replacement routines take a long time to decide where to place them - at least that's what Ralph says. It's improved a bunch in 3.5.

But I don't see the problem. Just go do something else for a bit. If you were playing the original CFNA board game you would have to do all the calculations by hand!



burroughs -> RE: Campaign for North Africa (Complete) by Bob Cross issue (10/3/2012 3:06:10 PM)

Yes,indeed, in the previous turns some of the RN ships were destroyed or damaged in Tobruk by the advancing DAK- I couldn't withdraw them as their formation was reorganizing since the previous turn,a nasty surprise as I was rotating them in order not to let the Luftwaffe aircraft to have a go at them should the krauts manage to bring some decent anti naval airstrike cspability to bear and intothe theater - only t have the ships stuck in port dur to their higher-ups apparent inefficiency.

That last one sounds a bit sarcastic and wrongly aimed - I have always praised the PCs for allowing me to leave the arithmetics and handling of all the game engine mechanics toour beloved machines. Starting well over twenty years ago ,playing "The Space Merchant" solitaire overand over again I was dreaming of a device that would help in remembering all of the things that I had to do for each of the parties involved oneach turn. I was perfectly well poised for embracing the CPU et alia once they came, the dream made flesh.



General Staff -> RE: Campaign for North Africa (Complete) by Bob Cross issue (10/3/2012 3:18:13 PM)

OK- started…

1) It loaded playback OK.
2) I skipped playback. Straight in.
3) Showing “Checking Replacements: Commonwealth”… Window Title says “The Operational Art of War- Campaign for North Africa 40-43 (PBEM) (Not Responding)”

I can load another current PBEM of mine in another process window and it runs fine. In fact I started up Falotti’s “The Great War 1914 - 1918” in Computer-Computer mode and again- Window Title says “The Operational Art of War- The Great War 1914 - 1918 (PBEM) (Not Responding)”.

By the time I finished this post- and put it up- everything was humming along in both scenarios. I tried moving LRDG a but it was in reorg, so I had to settle for KDGd and no problem there. Simultaneously Falotti’s scenario was humming along just fine (well for WWI anyway).

So all’s well. As Bob says give it time. If you’ve further troubles we might look at your msconfig settings (startup, services etc…) but PC spec looks perfectly adequate (heavy on graphics are we?). 5 minutes tops for all to run here.

Hope this helps.



burroughs -> RE: Campaign for North Africa (Complete) by Bob Cross issue (10/3/2012 4:10:04 PM)

Thanks a lot ,gentelmen. I'll see to it and let You know if I will have made any progress by then.



burroughs -> RE: Campaign for North Africa (Complete) by Bob Cross issue (10/5/2012 8:05:02 PM)

Gentelme,all I can say that it worked indeed and apparently worked well. Thanks a lot for all the effort and counselling You kindly provided.It wouldn't have been possible, but for Your input. Long live the wargaming community.



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