Pertti -> RE: TOE Errata (2/9/2012 8:30:36 AM)
OK, here is a really quick answer, I have to comb through the whole Finnish TOE before giving exact fixes to all the problems. But as you can see there are major fixes to come.
DISCLAIMER: I have no knowledge of the person who did Finnish TOE so this is nothing personal towards anybody!
Here is the material I use for Finns, these are available almost in any public Finnish library:
Jatkosodan Historia vol.1-6, (History of Continuation War vol. 1-6) Sotatieteen Laitoksen Julkaisuja, WSOY, Porvoo 1988.
Jatkosodan Pikku Jättiläinen, (Little Giant of Continuation War) Toim. Leskinen ja Juutilainen, WSOY, Helsinki 2006.
Hyökkäyksestä Puolustukseen, (From Assault to Defence) Vesa Tynkkynen, Maanpuolustuskorkeakoulu Taktiikan laitos, Julkaisusarja 1/1996.
Jatkosodan Tiellä, (On the Road of Continuation War) Toim. Palokangas, Maanpuolustuskorkeakoulun Sotahistorian Laitoksen ja Sotamuseon Julkaisuja, Gummerus kirjapaino Oy, Jyväskylä 2004.
Suomalaiset Panssarijoukot 1919-1969, (Finnish Armored Troops 1919-1969) P. Kantakoski, Karisto Oy, Hämeenlinna 1969
Punaiset Panssarit (Red Tanks), P. Kantakoski, Ilves-Paino Oy, Hämeenlinna 1998
Now to the Quick and Dirty. [:D]
Missing weaponry (devices):
7,62 mm Maxim M/32-33
- Standard Finnish MMG, modified heavily from original Maxim 09.
7,62 ItKk/31-40 VKT
- Finnish AAMG
20 ItK/39 M, Madsen
- Danish GP 20mm automatic gun, mainly used for AA by Finns (Coastal units and Navy)
20 ItK/40 VKT "Vekotin"
- Finnish 2x20mm AAgun
-Russian MMG should be changed to above M/32-33
-SG43 never used by Finns
-0134 (FT-17) Removed during Winter War for use as billboxes
-0152 (Rifle Squad) 1+8 men (=9) not 10 (same with other squads composition)
-0154 (Submachine Squad) No such a thing in official Finnish infantry TOE
-Missing Jääkäri (Jager) squad all together, should take the place of above unit, different weaponry and uses
bicycles for transportation (speed 12 and classification as bicycle infantry, PLEASE add this classification to list since Germans and other Axis are also using bicycles a lot!!)
-AT-inf units missing men and weaponry
-Finns did not use German 75mm infantry gun
-Artillery units have to be rethought, too many models in real Finnish TOE to be included in the game but not proper as it is right now either.
-Missing Landsverk Anti (AA-tank) used in Armored Division
COMBAT ENGINEERS (this same problem is in every nation!)
-Should not have FT included as part of squad weaponry, this gives way too many FT for divisions!
-Finnish Division had 48 engineers but only 12 FT, so we have 400% increase as things are right now. (German inf. div. had 20 FT, game gives 36!)
These seem to be off by most cases.
Here is short example:
Summer -41 tank Battalion:
T-26 x48 (3 Co each 12x T-26)
T-26FT x 5
T-28e x2 (10/41 6+1xT-34)
Air Force needs to be checked, some of the things don’t feel right. Like Finland licence build Blenheims during the war but no Factory in the game.
Cities are missing all AA units.
Map seems to have some mistakes
Anyway, I will start posting fixes with explanations in the forum as time permits.