PaxMondo -> RE: Ship conversions (8/15/2011 5:06:27 PM)
ORIGINAL: Feurer Krieg
Here's my ship conversion chart I made to help me sort all these options out:
I know people debate some of these things often, but here's some of my thoughts for what they are worth.
AG/AKE/AD/AS/AR: I'm going to make about 25-35 AKE's. They can reload torps just as well as AD, with the benefit of loading guns and CAGs too. The Lima class has enough capacity to load every weapon aside from Yamato/Mushashi's guns. In terms of not having as many Lima's in the xAK role, the Lima has a load efficiency of 64.7% (capacity versus tonnage) which is about 2% less than the average xAK. In other words, on capacity to tonnage, they are below average so might as well use them for something else. There are some AG's that make good AKEs and they will be converted/upgraded when available in June 42.
I'll make some AS and AD as well, but those will mostly be placed where I put AR's which will be a smaller set of bases that are located to be emergency repair stations.
I may make a couple AG's and AGP's as well, but I'm still considering that. They are cheaper so maybe I'll make 5-10 and put them on the very front lines to keep the destroyers well armed.
In general, I want to make extensive use of tenders because of two reasons. One, there aren't a ton of engineers to go around and two, I'd just as soon not build up lots of great ports for the Allies to make use of later in the war. Let them bring in their own tenders.
AV: The Sanyo has a better plane capacity so I'll go with that one if I need more AV's.
PB: The Kiso wins in my book. Slower speed yes, but we have quite a lot of faster PBs and DD's around for those convoys that need to move quick. Most of the converted Kisos will be on resource convoy duty and will be pared with slower ships anyway. Plus the ASW rating of 3 is better than 2.
ACM: I'll make a bunch of To'su ACM's to keep the few mines I have from degrading away. The To'sus don't have much life capacity anyway, so it makes sense to put them on minefield duty.
TK: I certainly plan to switch some Std-C and Std-E over to tankers later on. The E's are nice because they are the most efficient cargo/tonnage TK ship of the convertible classes. The type E is 100%, versus the next best one, the type C at 98.3%.
AKV: I intend to make a couple Lima class AKVs. Even if they just sit in a dock for a long time, I like to know I have the tool available if I need it. In WITP games there were times I wished I had the ability bring in some planes without crating them first. And in the late war, I can imagine there might be time I'll want to bring in some kamikazes into airfields with no support so they can fly their one way mission.
That's all for now - currently working on getting the exact counts of each tender I want on 12/41 so I can get the right ships heading for the shipyards. I'm sure after the bullets start flying shipyards won't be so plentiful.
Just for fun, here are some of my thoughts on this topic.
Kyushu and Husimi are your two most valuable conversion xAK's as they convert to almost everything. You only get about 24 Husimi and 32 Kyushu, so enough, but not like the Aden. Biggest difference between them is size and speed. Kyushu (5935,18) and Husimi (4675, 14). My interpretation is that it means the Husimi is not as survivable and can be escorted by many of the SC classes due to speed. Kyushu will need DD/E type escort due to speed.
AV - While the Kyushu does hold 9 planes compared to the Husimi 4, the AV support is identical = 12. If you are using Jake/Rufe, both of these have pretty long legs, so most (all?) locations where you would set up a forward recon post, they can fly in to meet the ship. Forward recons are vulnerable, loss of ships is high, but you will do this right? I would tend to use lower value ships, Husimi.
AR - These are very valuable and will be forward, but not exposed. They will need speed to move up to assist wounded CV's. Sounds more like a Kyushu to me. Can't have too many.
AS - Again, likely is going to be way forward and exposed but the tme savings for re-arm is a big force multiplier. As compared to AKE, these are tenders, so also help with minor repair, an important point forward. Lower value ship might be better. I would choose Husimi here.
AKE - As you say - Lima's. You have lots of choices for this, but Lima's are a good all around fit.
Troop Conversion - don't forget to do some. I like to convert all of my 18kn xAK's; Yusen A and Kyushu (not converted to AR); to use to supplement the AP/xAP fleet. Conversion is fairly quick at large SY.
Just my thoughts. Use as you see fit.