Hurricane Katrina..........

[Tophat]

I'm curious why they don't link and float barges down to the levee break and sink them in place. They need some form of breakwall that they can pile those giant sandbags behind.
here is a question that needs looking at........"Do you rebuild NO at the same location?".
Also we desperatly need 2 more refineries on the Westcoast,another on the Eastcoast and something in the Midwest.
Atleast the damn EPA is relaxing the different gasoline blend restrictions,that should freeup some capacity.

***Sidenote: I saw people with a raft full of TV's moving down a flooded street.Question: "Where are they going to take them?" Also,the power is off for miles around,they can't even use one now.

[captskillet]

float barges down to the levee break

I think that is one plan they are looking at!

Also we desperatly need 2 more refineries on the Westcoast,another on the Eastcoast and something in the Midwest.

All you yankees just love us for our oil & natural gas [;)] [:D] ! We need Nuclear power, more oil/gas wells dug & more refineries built......unfortunately the first and third takes a little time!

[Oznoyng]

ORIGINAL: Tophat
Also we desperatly need 2 more refineries on the Westcoast,another on the Eastcoast and something in the Midwest.

What America needs is an energy policy that doesn't simply focus on getting more of it, but instead upon using less of it. I drive a hybrid which gets between 45 and 60 mpg. If every soccer mom driving a 13 mpg mega-SUV was switched to a hybrid, we would have no gas shortage, we would have lower trade deficits, we would not be funding terrorists, we would not be poluting the environment, we would not have America at risk because our economy relies upon importing more and more oil from countries that would love to see us brought low. Building more refineries only puts us on a faster track for consuming finite resources and makes a huge vulnerability larger.

[Terminus]

Oh dear, I give this thread a couple of posts more before it gets locked down.

[BB57]

All the neat things you can do with oil, plastic etc., and we are burning it.

[Twotribes]

If you ant to discuss our "failed" energy policy and the evil soccer moms take it to Mad Cows, I promise we will gladly discuss the issue with you. You will find people that support you as well, we have at least one poster who refers to people that own SUV's as traitors.

[madmickey]

Hybrid Cars use electricity the vast majority is made by burning fossil fuel and Coal produces a lot more CO2 per energy generated than natural gas or oil.

[Twotribes]

Now Madmickey dont burst the environuts bubble.

[Oliver Heindorf]

I donated 25 euros. please help all. the ppl need help.

[tsimmonds]

I can't believe this; forget the political sniping guys. This is serious stuff. Perhaps thousands are dead, millions homeless; lives have been changed forever. People need help. Not everything is political.

[Tophat]

Sorry if i helped turn this political.......and yes I verywell know people are dead,stranded,frightened and lost down there. Its a bad situation and the worst maynot have been reached yet.

[patrickl]

I saw photos in the local newspaper. [:(] Roads that looked like rivers with car roof barely visible. The Governor of Mississippi declared it as their Tsunami disaster. Damages run to billions.[:(]. Don't know the fatality figure. Despite all the advances in science, we just can't stop such tragedies from happening.

[Treetop64]

ORIGINAL: captskillet

Fox news is reporting that it may up to 3 months before power is fully restored in NO!!!

Yeah. "Fox News". That's a source...

[:D]

[doktorblood]

I'm somewhat shocked at the apparant lack of capability to respond to this disaster that is being demonstrated. There are a lot of people out there in desperate situation need help yesterday. To me, it seems like State and Federal authorites were woefully unprepared. It's not like they didn't know this monster storm was coming.

[captskillet]

I'm somewhat shocked at the apparant lack of capability to respond to this disaster that is being demonstrated.

You cant just snap your fingers and everything is in place to help the people and start the cleanup........you are talking a whole urban area of around 1 mil people and the whole infrastructure of New Orleans is GONE.........it takes time to get those kinds of resources into play.........I doubt NYC responded any quicker!

[RevRick]

The other thing is that with hurricanes, you never know what they are going to do before they do it. It could have shifted sixty to seventy miles in the final few hours and relocated all of the damage effects to another area. Add to that the fact that this storm was several hundred miles in diameter (tropical storm force winds up to 200 miles on each side, I believe) and you just can't deploy relief forxes next to the expected strike zone without risking them becoming victims themselves. I spent several years in disaster reponse and safety in both the business world and as in the Church. It ain't easy and there are always trade-offs. Those people on the overpass which were shown on television yesterday were not comfortable, but they were safe and alive. There are others who have not been rescued yet, who are not safe and may not be alive very soon. Read the story of the 1928 hurricane which hit South Florida for a real chiller.

[Tophat]

Getting worse now,its a No-man's land with a total law and order breakdown. Shots fired at rescue forces with rumors that some of N.O police are packing it in and leaving town.[:(]

[Mike Solli]

Look for the National Guard to send MPs to New Orleans in the very near future to do some Law and Order missions.

[Terminus]

Be careful what you believe. This sort of a disaster is a breeding ground for all sorts of rumours...

[Mike Solli]

It's not a rumor.

Edit: Look at my occupation.