Japanese amphibious assault bonus
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- Kereguelen
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Japanese amphibious assault bonus
Hi,
according to section 6.1.19 of the manual, the Japanese get a +200 bonus for amphibious assaults "through" March 1942. How is this meant? Does this include the March?
English is not my native language, thus I may have missed some of the finer parts of that language[8D].
Anybody who's able to clarifiy this?
Thanks!
K
according to section 6.1.19 of the manual, the Japanese get a +200 bonus for amphibious assaults "through" March 1942. How is this meant? Does this include the March?
English is not my native language, thus I may have missed some of the finer parts of that language[8D].
Anybody who's able to clarifiy this?
Thanks!
K
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RE: Japanese amphibious assault bonus
ORIGINAL: Kereguelen
Hi,
according to section 6.1.19 of the manual, the Japanese get a +200 bonus for amphibious assaults "through" March 1942. How is this meant? Does this include the March?
English is not my native language, thus I may have missed some of the finer parts of that language[8D].
Anybody who's able to clarifiy this?
Thanks!
K
March is the last month for the bonus. Use it man, it helps a lot.
RE: Japanese amphibious assault bonus
"through" would mean that March is included.
- Kereguelen
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RE: Japanese amphibious assault bonus
Thanks, but ... I'm the Allies in all my PBEM[:(]
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RE: Japanese amphibious assault bonus
Two points of question.....One, the Japanese were LOUSY at amphibious ASSULTS.
They were skilled and successfull at amphibious LANDINGS, but lacked doctrine,
equipment, and training for opposed assults. Any successes they had in this regard
were do to the valor and self-sacrificing qualities of their infantry. But generally they
landed agains little or no opposition during the period of their expansion. So what's
the justification for a "bonus"?
The Allies, on the other hand, did develop doctrine, training, and specialized equipment
for opposed landings. Amphibious tractors and tanks, close gunfire and air support,
UDT teams, etcetera. So where is the Allied "bonus"?
They were skilled and successfull at amphibious LANDINGS, but lacked doctrine,
equipment, and training for opposed assults. Any successes they had in this regard
were do to the valor and self-sacrificing qualities of their infantry. But generally they
landed agains little or no opposition during the period of their expansion. So what's
the justification for a "bonus"?
The Allies, on the other hand, did develop doctrine, training, and specialized equipment
for opposed landings. Amphibious tractors and tanks, close gunfire and air support,
UDT teams, etcetera. So where is the Allied "bonus"?
- Ron Saueracker
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RE: Japanese amphibious assault bonus
ORIGINAL: Mike Scholl
Two points of question.....One, the Japanese were LOUSY at amphibious ASSULTS.
They were skilled and successfull at amphibious LANDINGS, but lacked doctrine,
equipment, and training for opposed assults. Any successes they had in this regard
were do to the valor and self-sacrificing qualities of their infantry. But generally they
landed agains little or no opposition during the period of their expansion. So what's
the justification for a "bonus"?
The Allies, on the other hand, did develop doctrine, training, and specialized equipment
for opposed landings. Amphibious tractors and tanks, close gunfire and air support,
UDT teams, etcetera. So where is the Allied "bonus"?
Good point. The Japanese bonus I believe is to alleviate hindsight somewhat for game purposes. The lack of some sort of Allied bonus later on is glaring, however. I've always wanted some way of differentiating between dedicated assault ships APA/AKA with their specialized equipment and their lesser sisters. I suggested that they have increased unload rates than simple AP/AK due to their larger (depending on class) boat groups. I also suggested that a "Boat or service deck" hit location be added to merchants (larger the ship, the more mounts [boats] they carry), and have this targetted by CDs instead of simply troops. That way, USN could add a few mm of armor to the mounts [boats] to simulate the amphtracks, Buffaloes, DUKWS etc they used. The more mounts knocked out, the fewer troops can land per pulse etc. Needs some more thought but it could work.
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RE: Japanese amphibious assault bonus
I'd settle for just getting rid of the totally unjustified Japanese bonus. Getting the
designers to add in another layer of complexity is probably a pipe-dream at this
point. We need far too much of existing code to be corrected to ask for anything
new.
designers to add in another layer of complexity is probably a pipe-dream at this
point. We need far too much of existing code to be corrected to ask for anything
new.
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RE: Japanese amphibious assault bonus
ORIGINAL: Mike Scholl
I'd settle for just getting rid of the totally unjustified Japanese bonus. Getting the
designers to add in another layer of complexity is probably a pipe-dream at this
point. We need far too much of existing code to be corrected to ask for anything
new.
Geez...another realist.[:(][;)] Agreed.
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RE: Japanese amphibious assault bonus
Leave my nippers alone!!!!!!!![:-]
Just because my little guys can swim ashore, scale the cliffs and capture the base with a rifle, ball of rice and single canteen of water per man, you guys want to change things around.
Americans on the other hand, need toilet paper, lots of beer, good food etc.
Just because my little guys can swim ashore, scale the cliffs and capture the base with a rifle, ball of rice and single canteen of water per man, you guys want to change things around.
Americans on the other hand, need toilet paper, lots of beer, good food etc.
RE: Japanese amphibious assault bonus
ORIGINAL: 2ndACR
Leave my nippers alone!!!!!!!![:-]
Just because my little guys can swim ashore, scale the cliffs and capture the base with a rifle, ball of rice and single canteen of water per man, you guys want to change things around.
Americans on the other hand, need toilet paper, lots of beer, good food etc.
lolz!!!
theres 1 thing u can definitely say for the japs
they fouhgt pretty hard[:'(]
but we were better [:D][8D][&o]
and taller[:D]
RE: Japanese amphibious assault bonus
Marky,
We got to get you a little help with that sig picture. It either hurts my eyes or makes me laugh.[:D]
I know you tried and all, and it is better than what I could accomplish, but man oh man.
We got to get you a little help with that sig picture. It either hurts my eyes or makes me laugh.[:D]
I know you tried and all, and it is better than what I could accomplish, but man oh man.
RE: Japanese amphibious assault bonus
I'd settle for just getting rid of the totally unjustified Japanese bonus.
What makes you think it is not justified? It simply represents Japan implementing their "plan"
RE: Japanese amphibious assault bonus
and it is better than what I could accomplish
And people wonder why I don't have one ... his is good by my drawing skills. [:D]
RE: Japanese amphibious assault bonus
Same here. But if I wanted one, I am not above a little groveling to get one.
I just want to laugh when ever I see it. Not making fun of you Marky, but after seeing all the other ones, it is kind of funny.[:D]
I just want to laugh when ever I see it. Not making fun of you Marky, but after seeing all the other ones, it is kind of funny.[:D]
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RE: Japanese amphibious assault bonus
I think it's friggin' CLASSIC![&o]
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RE: Japanese amphibious assault bonus
and taller
I knew a blonde lady (about 5'3") who flew to Japan to do business. One reason (she claimed) is that she "always wanted to be a tall blonde".
- testarossa
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RE: Japanese amphibious assault bonus
ORIGINAL: Ron Saueracker
I think it's friggin' CLASSIC![&o]
Nope. It’s contemporary urban style, so called “graffiti”. [:D]
RE: Japanese amphibious assault bonus
The rule is there, because Japan did not lose too many troops against SRA.
If you remove the rule, Japan will suffer a lot more casualties than historical.
If you remove the rule, Japan will suffer a lot more casualties than historical.
- Kereguelen
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RE: Japanese amphibious assault bonus
ORIGINAL: BlackVoid
The rule is there, because Japan did not lose too many troops against SRA.
If you remove the rule, Japan will suffer a lot more casualties than historical.
Currently Japan seems to take a lot less casualties in the game than historical[X(]. But this seems to be more related to land combat in general and not to the landing bonus (which per se seems to be necessary).