Sorry, I didn't make myself clear. Instead of interceptors, my thoughts were escort can play the dual role for the US with the added benefit of range and minor loss in air to air. But you've answered my question none the less. Thank you.ORIGINAL: Harrybanana
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First, thanks for doing this.
Question: Why escort fighters and interceptors for the US tech?
Rather than FB tech you mean? I think interceptors are essential for gaining air superiority. The problem is that you can't have too many of them because once you finally get back to continental Europe port supply will be at a premium. So I like to have some escort fighters who have the range to escort my bombers and intercept enemy bombers from the UK or Africa. But now that FBs have been beefed up perhaps I should give them a try. Guess I am too set in my ways.
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JAN 5, 1940
3 more MS sunk by U-Boats. The British and French each build a division and 10 supply trucks. The Russians are back to building an infantry corps per turn until further notice.
3 more MS sunk by U-Boats. The British and French each build a division and 10 supply trucks. The Russians are back to building an infantry corps per turn until further notice.
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JAN 19, 1940
The 4th Axis U-Boat shows up; so MM built his first U-Boat before I did in our mirror game. 5 MS sunk, but I scored my 1st hit on a U-Boat. The British and French each build a division and 20 supply trucks. I may regret not building more escorts; so far I only have 4 Canadian escorts in the queue. The British replace/upgrade level is set at 100 and the French at 80.
The 4th Axis U-Boat shows up; so MM built his first U-Boat before I did in our mirror game. 5 MS sunk, but I scored my 1st hit on a U-Boat. The British and French each build a division and 20 supply trucks. I may regret not building more escorts; so far I only have 4 Canadian escorts in the queue. The British replace/upgrade level is set at 100 and the French at 80.
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FEB 2, 1940
1 MS and 1 escort sunk, but I did score 2 hits on the U-Boats. UK and French both build 20 supply trucks.
1 MS and 1 escort sunk, but I did score 2 hits on the U-Boats. UK and French both build 20 supply trucks.
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FEB 16, 1940
0 MS sunk. UK and French each build 10 supply trucks. The Canadians build an escort and the Russians build a mechanized.
0 MS sunk. UK and French each build 10 supply trucks. The Canadians build an escort and the Russians build a mechanized.
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MAR 1, 1940
Snow. No combats as the U-Boats return to port. Below is the map of my dispositions in France. Other than a UK mechanized that is in the build queue and a UK HQ (Auchinlek), this will probably be all the forces I use. Most of the RAF is in SE England off screen. The UK built a division and 10 supply trucks, the French built 10 supply trucks. The US built an armour. Canada built an escort.
Snow. No combats as the U-Boats return to port. Below is the map of my dispositions in France. Other than a UK mechanized that is in the build queue and a UK HQ (Auchinlek), this will probably be all the forces I use. Most of the RAF is in SE England off screen. The UK built a division and 10 supply trucks, the French built 10 supply trucks. The US built an armour. Canada built an escort.
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I got my first tech upgrades, UK interceptors 41 and warships 41. Here are the tech levels for all the Allies. The biggest concern is that US Heavy armour is really lagging. Since I tend to build a lot of US armour and mech this could be a problem.
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The Production queues.
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MAR 15, 1940
Snow. No U-Boat attacks. UK builds 10 Supply trucks. Most of the UK production over this and the last few turns has been spent on replacements to fill up all the 1/2 strength units they start with. The French build 20 supply trucks. The US builds 20 LC.
Snow. No U-Boat attacks. UK builds 10 Supply trucks. Most of the UK production over this and the last few turns has been spent on replacements to fill up all the 1/2 strength units they start with. The French build 20 supply trucks. The US builds 20 LC.
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MAR 29, 1940
Rain. I lose 3 MS, but damage 2 subs. MM must be getting frustrated by how much better my U-Boats are doing in our mirror game; I know I would be. The UK builds 10 supply trucks, the French build 30 supply trucks (in hindsight perhaps too many). Canada builds an escort and the Russians build a 40 assault tech mountain corps. By the way, all the Russian infantry corps I am building are built with 39 assault tech even though I could now build them with 40 tech. They are cannon fodder.
Rain. I lose 3 MS, but damage 2 subs. MM must be getting frustrated by how much better my U-Boats are doing in our mirror game; I know I would be. The UK builds 10 supply trucks, the French build 30 supply trucks (in hindsight perhaps too many). Canada builds an escort and the Russians build a 40 assault tech mountain corps. By the way, all the Russian infantry corps I am building are built with 39 assault tech even though I could now build them with 40 tech. They are cannon fodder.
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APR 12, 1940
Rain. 1 MS sunk, but so is another sub. UK builds 10 supply and an escort. The US builds 10 LCs. Russia builds and infantry corps.
Rain. 1 MS sunk, but so is another sub. UK builds 10 supply and an escort. The US builds 10 LCs. Russia builds and infantry corps.
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APR 26, 1940
Heavy Rain. 1 MS and 1 U-Boat sunk. So far in the BOA the Allies have lost 26 MS and 2 escorts while the Germans have sustained 7 U-Boat hits. Compare this to our mirror game where I am the Axis and as of the same turn I have sunk 48 MS and 5 escorts and have sustained only 2 U-Boat hits. The UK builds an infantry division. The French build 10 supply trucks, The Canadians build an escort. The Russians build a mountain corps.
Heavy Rain. 1 MS and 1 U-Boat sunk. So far in the BOA the Allies have lost 26 MS and 2 escorts while the Germans have sustained 7 U-Boat hits. Compare this to our mirror game where I am the Axis and as of the same turn I have sunk 48 MS and 5 escorts and have sustained only 2 U-Boat hits. The UK builds an infantry division. The French build 10 supply trucks, The Canadians build an escort. The Russians build a mountain corps.
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MAY 10, 1940
Clear. 4 MS sunk. Great minds think alike. MM also foregoes invading the Netherlands and conquers Belgium in one turn. He takes slightly more losses than I did, but also advances further into the NW corner of Belgium. The British and French air forces all sit tight. I don't move at all.
Clear. 4 MS sunk. Great minds think alike. MM also foregoes invading the Netherlands and conquers Belgium in one turn. He takes slightly more losses than I did, but also advances further into the NW corner of Belgium. The British and French air forces all sit tight. I don't move at all.
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MAY 24, 1940
Heavy Rain stalls MM's advance. I have really been out lucking MM like crazy in this game. Which, of course, is extremely bad for me. It means that when I lose I will have no excuses.
5 MS and an escort sunk in exchange for 1 sub hit.
Heavy Rain stalls MM's advance. I have really been out lucking MM like crazy in this game. Which, of course, is extremely bad for me. It means that when I lose I will have no excuses.
5 MS and an escort sunk in exchange for 1 sub hit.
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JUNE 7, 1940
My Allied air forces are faring much better in this game than MM's are in our mirror game. Not all the air battles were as much in my favour as this one. But of the 4 bombing runs I flew I equaled or bettered the Axis in all of them. Is it because I beef my air units up with supply trucks and MM doesn't, am I just getting luckier, or a combination of both. Probably the latter. I do know that in one of the battles my 5 strength French fighter outdueled a 7 strength Axis fighter.
My Allied air forces are faring much better in this game than MM's are in our mirror game. Not all the air battles were as much in my favour as this one. But of the 4 bombing runs I flew I equaled or bettered the Axis in all of them. Is it because I beef my air units up with supply trucks and MM doesn't, am I just getting luckier, or a combination of both. Probably the latter. I do know that in one of the battles my 5 strength French fighter outdueled a 7 strength Axis fighter.
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The Front Lines before my moves. If you compare this to the May 24 turn of our mirror game you will see that the Front is almost identical except that MM did me one better by capturing Lille.
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And after. As you can see I didn't move much. But I did beef up some units with supply and elited (is that a word) a French Corps. (for all the good it did). I thought the circled UK Corps was safe. As you will see, I was wrong.
I lost 3 more MS and sunk 2 more subs. Russia built a mountain corps. The US built 3 shipyards which I probably should have done earlier or not at all. Canada builds an escort.
I lost 3 more MS and sunk 2 more subs. Russia built a mountain corps. The US built 3 shipyards which I probably should have done earlier or not at all. Canada builds an escort.
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June 21, 1940
0 MS sunk. But MM launches a major offensive with lots of attacks, including the one that shattered my UK Corps.
0 MS sunk. But MM launches a major offensive with lots of attacks, including the one that shattered my UK Corps.
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Our games truly are "mirror" games, as I shatter one of MM's mechanized units. But the cost was high.
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I try to put some distance between my units and the Germans.
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