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RE: Week 47- May and Sevastopol

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Looks like this game will rise once more, albeit in a 1-1 format.
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RE: Week 47- May and Sevastopol

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Best news I've heard all week.
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RE: Week 47- May and Sevastopol

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The world deserves an AAR.
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RE: Week 47- May and Sevastopol

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The world deserves an AAR.

Since this is a different game -- I will start a new AAR around turn 60 to cover turn 55 on ...
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RE: Week 47- May and Sevastopol

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Fine!
I am not sure what M60 is going to do now as no one steals his mobile units anymore and moves them closer to the front? Or gives them a martial, intimidating pink colour?
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RE: Week 47- May and Sevastopol

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Fine!
I am not sure what M60 is going to do now as no one steals his mobile units anymore and moves them closer to the front? Or gives them a martial, intimidating pink colour?

I did bronze in 2x3 and the 4th Panzer Army is still bronze in that game :)
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Week 51 Deployment

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RE: Week 51 OOB

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Week 51 OOB

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RE: Week 51 Vehicle Situation

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An adequate surplus in the motor pool of almost sixty thousand vehicles will safely allow for the expansion of tank support units. They are not manpower intensive, but it will not be necessary for a massive buildup either. Separate tank battalions, guards heavy tank regiments and flame tank battalions will all be forming as the months progress. The T34M42 will enter production next month, as well as the OT-34 flame tank. The KV-1s M1942 heavy tank enters production in August.
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RE: Week 51 Vehicle Situation

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Question from my side, from which turn do you continue the game as a 1 vs 1?
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RE: Week 51 Vehicle Situation

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Turn 54
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RE: Week 51 Vehicle Situation

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Here is the AFV breakdown for the Red Army including units in pools. Of course any type not deployed but with equipment in pools are not shown, such as the M3 Lee. There are adequate pools in all categories except for the very last AA type which is not significant.

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RE: Week 51 Air Situation

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Air Situation

At the beginning of October 1941 the VVS had 3,576 aircraft to an Axis total of 3,280. This amounted to a difference of under 300 machines. In the first sixteen weeks of war, the Red Air Force sustained losses averaging more than 1,000 aircraft per week.

A total of 285 air regiments and 4 battalions that the VVS possessed would, under a full complement, contain some 5,740 aircraft. The total available at the beginning of October amounted to just over 62% of full strength. There were 55 air units each with a complement of from 0-5 aircraft.

A breakdown of the aircraft in various combat units totaled 1,178 fighters and fighter bombers, 464 tactical bombers, 1,653 level bombers, 184 reconnaissance and 87 transport aircraft.

By this time, MiG-3 fighter production had ceased as the factories had been evacuated from Moscow. LaGG-3 production of 66 aircraft per week was concentrated in three factories of which two had absorbed bombing damage of 22% and 4% respectively. Three Yak-1 factories in the Saratov region had all received bomb damage at 30% 28% and 11%. Two of these plants would be evacuated to the Urals in the second week of October with the remaining factory following a week later. LaGG-3 series 11 production had been ended by an unexpected capture of the Taganrog factory.

The first shipments of Lend Lease aircraft arrived in early October in the form of 28 Hurricane II-Bs and 15 P-40Bs. These were to reinforce a fighter arm with precious few capable planes. There were at this time 105 MiG-3 aircraft in inventory to go with 82 Yak-1s. There were also just under 190 LaGG-3 aircraft, but these were really entry-level machines that normally would have gone to pilot recruits. They have a poor loss-kill ratio compared to more capable fighters and have earned their nickname “guaranteed varnished coffin.” The remaining 68% of the fighter complement consisted of various I-Type fighters.

In the tactical air category, it would be months before two MiG-3 factories evacuated from Moscow would convert to IL-2 production. The two IL-2 factories originally at Voronezh had departed the city in August and the SU-2 plant in Kharkov had been written off by German occupation of the city. Fortunately, with the exception of a single week, IL-2s were delivered by one or both of the Sturmovik factories now located at Izhevsk, far to the east. During some weeks fifteen aircraft would arrive and thirty in others. It would not be until mid-December that production would expand. The eight SU-2 regiments of the VVS would slowly see the aircraft numbers dwindle until IL-2 aircraft could be brought in as replacements.

Level bombers were the one category where the VVS still possessed reasonably good numbers in 94 regiments, but without fighter escort, they would be largely useless.

In transports, the Li-2 aircraft plants had been lost at Khimki near Moscow and it would be 1943 until American lend lease aircraft could be counted on to rebuild this category.

In reconnaissance planes, two-thirds of the SB-2R type had been expended. Pe-2R production was minimal, just a few units, so assorted inventories of outmoded aircraft would be counted on to fill in until inventories could be re-built.

On the basis of the size of the task to reconstruct the VVS, it was decided to keep shifting airframes to the National Reserve in times when their presence was not vital to operations on the ground. This would include a substantial portion of the winter period, particularly because level bombers have such a low participation rate in snow conditions.

After two months had passed as blizzard arrived in early December, the VVS could call upon 4,673 planes, an increase of over a thousand. Two months after that, another thousand were added to the inventory. Commanders on the ground were having to make due with minimal air support and to their credit they did so without complaint.

March 1942 was a period when the ground conditions permitted the Axis to return to the offensive, although under trying conditions. It was decided to commit the VVS to action, even though the earlier plan had been to hold it back to preserve numbers. In March, our fighter force suffered significant losses compared to production with totals of 1,005 lost and 654 built or delivered by our Anglo-American allies.

April saw a return of rain and muddy conditions and once again the VVS returned to rear areas to make good recent losses. By this time Yak-1 production was improving, although not yet at its full capacity of 75 units per week. This time fighter losses were significantly less than production, 251 lost and 892 added respectively. Total VVS losses by this time were over 19,500 aircraft compared to the loss of 3,100 Axis.

Throughout this period, improved versions of fighter bombers were reaching the force. The American P40B gave way to E models in January with less range but slightly better performance. Delivery rates did drop from fifteen aircraft per week to nine. The American P-39D also appeared in March, albeit at a very small rate of four per week. Domestically, the Yak-7A began production in January, to be followed by the Yak-7B in May. Full production of this aircraft was not expected until late July.

Airbases during this period remained a constant as SAD bases were replaced on a 1-1 basis by distinct unit types. More were expected to be added in the summer of ’42 to accommodate an expansion of air regiments.

The Axis air tactics clearly focus on taking the fight to Soviet airbases rather than the front lines. They have been quite successful to date with this approach, but it has also been during an extended period when quality Soviet fighter aircraft have arrived in modest numbers. An unwillingness to simply leave the field and permit the Axis to make even greater gains to the east accounts for some of our losses. While the buildup of the VVS may not be proceeding at a pace some think it should, the overall trend by the numbers is positive. The rises and dips in Soviet fighter numbers come regularly but the overall trend is a positive one, even by Axis calculations.

Ideas such as insuring adequate ready fighter aircraft prior to ending weekly Soviet air operations is something that has been happening for some time. So too has withdrawing lower morale air regiments. In fact, the overall morale of the VVS is quite good, and experience levels rather respectable.

1942 is a year of transition for the VVS and is well on its way at the start of June. The halcyon days of the Luftwaffe will in due time be replaced by a darkened sky as the shadows of our sturmoviks portend the coming Soviet storm.
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RE: Week 51 Air Situation

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Written defence by General-Armii Ewald von Kleist for the process
The State vs. General-Armii EwaldVonKleist

Charge 1: The defence industry or general industry of the Soviet Union has not been under my responsibility during my time as a field commander before and during the war. Any contact with representatives of the Soviet industry and armaments industry were strictly professional meetings to evaluate combat experience with new weapon systems. It is true that I am a long-term member of the U2-society, which is an organization to promote flying in the Soviet union to create a pool of reserve pilots for future expansion of Soviet aviation and for defence purposes. Biplanes are the cheapest and safest training aircraft. It is not known to me that the organization has ever interfered with IL2 production, which has rightfully been declared as a priority for aircraft production.
No proof exists for collaboration between myself and elements identified as Trotskyist.

Charge 2: When I asked to be relieved of command, a request which was granted by Stalin, it was solely due to overworking and total exhaustion following the first year of the war. During the last two years. I simultaneously held responsibility for two strategic directions (Northern&Western), representing the largest army group ever formed in the history of war, which has been a severe strain on my health.
No escape from the Soviet Union has ever been planned.

Charge 3: I have no connection with said document, whose author, by sheer coincidence, has the same name as me. His work contains a photography of him, which is shown below on the left side. On the right side is a photography of myself. The differences are obvious and will convince anyone that we are different people who must not be charged for a crime committed by the other one.

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Given the preponderance of evidence, your denial of the facts simply cannot be believed.
U2VS production is something you would have encouraged had not this sordid plot been discovered.
It will not take long to render a verdict
Little is to be gained by you bringing our glorious leader into this treacherous affair.
There is little doubt who penned what documents.
You will receive a fair trial here in the USSR. This is not Fascist Germany after all.
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RE: Week 51 Air Situation

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A bit difficult to claim to be the guy on the right when your avatar is the guy on the left?

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RE: Week 51 Air Situation

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Given the preponderance of evidence, your denial of the facts simply cannot be believed.
U2VS production is something you would have encouraged had not this sordid plot been discovered.
It will not take long to render a verdict
Little is to be gained by you bringing our glorious leader into this treacherous affair.
There is little doubt who penned what documents.
You will receive a fair trial here in the USSR. This is not Fascist Germany after all.

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@Telemecus: It seems I should better have taken a lawyer. Where is sillyflower when you need him?
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RE: Week 51 Air Situation

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Given the preponderance of evidence, your denial of the facts simply cannot be believed.
U2VS production is something you would have encouraged had not this sordid plot been discovered.
It will not take long to render a verdict
Little is to be gained by you bringing our glorious leader into this treacherous affair.
There is little doubt who penned what documents.
You will receive a fair trial here in the USSR. This is not Fascist Germany after all.

[:D][:D]

@Telemecus: It seems I should better have taken a lawyer. Where is sillyflower when you need him?


The defendant will rise.

On the first charge, conspiracy with foreign and domestic agents to encourage continuation of the U-2VS aircraft, the court finds you guilty.

On the second charge, attempting escape from the USSR, the court finds you not guilty. Despite the best efforts of NKVD interrogators, no confessions or incriminating documents could be obtained to substantiate the charge.

On the third charge, authoring a document treasonous to the interests of the USSR, the court finds you not guilty. It must be conceded that the two portraits of the von Kleist individuals side by side does leave sufficient room for doubt, especially as the hats fit both so well.

Upon review of the court findings, Marshal Grigory Kulik, a fair and completely impartial officer has decided that in recognition of your previous contributions to the defense of the state, few and insignificant that they were compared to the great STALIN, you may choose one of three options.

1. You may be shot at dawn
2. You may be hanged at dawn

Or…you may accept the opportunity to purge your crime with blood. In these extraordinary times we need more men in the trenches. You will be reduced in rank to a level commensurate with your new leadership role (that of course I will handle). Against all odds, should you survive this assignment, your guilty verdict will be expunged with consideration towards restoring you to your previous rank.

You are required to choose one of these options immediately so we can make arrangements for either a firing squad, a hangman, or a car to transport you to your new unit.

Signed in the name of Marshal Kulik

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The verdict is in

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ORIGINAL: EwaldvonKleist
Given the preponderance of evidence, your denial of the facts simply cannot be believed.
U2VS production is something you would have encouraged had not this sordid plot been discovered.
It will not take long to render a verdict
Little is to be gained by you bringing our glorious leader into this treacherous affair.
There is little doubt who penned what documents.
You will receive a fair trial here in the USSR. This is not Fascist Germany after all.

[:D][:D]

@Telemecus: It seems I should better have taken a lawyer. Where is sillyflower when you need him?


The defendant will rise.

On the first charge, conspiracy with foreign and domestic agents to encourage continuation of the U-2VS aircraft, the court finds you guilty.

On the second charge, attempting escape from the USSR, the court finds you not guilty. Despite the best efforts of NKVD interrogators, no confessions or incriminating documents could be obtained to substantiate the charge.

On the third charge, authoring a document treasonous to the interests of the USSR, the court finds you not guilty. It must be conceded that the two portraits of the von Kleist individuals side by side does leave sufficient room for doubt, especially as the hats fit both so well.

Upon review of the court findings, Marshal Grigory Kulik, a fair and completely impartial officer has decided that in recognition of your previous contributions to the defense of the state, few and insignificant that they were compared to the great STALIN, you may choose one of three options.

1. You may be shot at dawn
2. You may be hanged at dawn

Or…you may accept the opportunity to purge your crime with blood. In these extraordinary times we need more men in the trenches. You will be reduced in rank to a level commensurate with your new leadership role (that of course I will handle). Against all odds, should you survive this assignment, your guilty verdict will be expunged with consideration towards restoring you to your previous rank.

You are required to choose one of these options immediately so we can make arrangements for either a firing squad, a hangman, or a car to transport you to your new unit.

Signed in the name of Marshal Kulik

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RE: The verdict is in

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After much consideration, I have come to the conclusion that an alive Bolshevik will serve the Soviet Union better than a dead one. I therefore chose option three. Due to my experience in commanding large formations, which has been explicitly acknowledged by the court, I propose to be demoted to General-Polkovnik and be placed in charge of an army.

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RE: The verdict is in

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Travel orders will be issued and General-Leitenant Chuikov advised of your impending assignment to his 12th Army.

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