[FIXED] Can not get malfunctions with maverick

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finomondo
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[FIXED] Can not get malfunctions with maverick

Post by finomondo »

Don't ask me why sometimes I prefer some rounds to malfunction or why I am playing in scenario editor mode.
Lets say I just want to see next wave of destruction prepared.
But here I did maybe around 100 tries and can not get first impacting missile to malfunction.
(Not tried other coming missiles).

I suspect it is some bug.


Scenario was updated to latest DB at moment of starting it and all non-exotic scenario features was enabled.
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RE: Can not get malfunctions with maverick

Post by KC45 »

I'm not sure which Matverick you used but seems like AGM-65F mulfunctioned properly in my test.

Can I ask whick Marverick you used in scenario? I didn't buy Don of New Era scenario.

I suspect Marverick has just low probability of mulfaction.

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Thanks for spending some time to test it, KC45

I realized I could make test case too and rewriting post. (Test case scenario attached).

It is AGM-65G shot from F16C Peace Onyx I against structures.
Checked database and it shows 0.90 reliability, so database issue is unlikely.

Did a 10 tries with 8 missiles impacted. No single malfunction. Math tells should be average 8 malfunctions.
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Post by Rory Noonan »

Speaking of math, this is a matter of independent probability... So with the salvo of 8 mavericks at 90% reliability the math is as follows:
1-(0.9^8)=0.5695 = 56.95% chance of a malfunction occuring

So not much better than a coin toss. This needs a much larger sample size.

Let's try with 48 mavericks.

1-(0.9^48)=0.9936 = 99.36% chance of a malfunction occuring.

In the two run-throughs I did of the attached scenarios there were multiple malfunctions.



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RE: Can not get malfunctions with maverick

Post by finomondo »

Thanks, Apache85, for bringing your case.

With such a large amount of missiles fired most of them hit surface of already destroyed structure.
That shows correct percentage against surface, wich I was unable to see on my smaller case.

But I still cannot see malfunctions against structures (I guess with vehicles percentage is correct too from 1st reply). May be size of structure matters.

Could someone try to run my scenario from second message multiple times (x10 like I did gives 99.98% chance of at least one malfunction).
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I found WAD was added to topic, not sure before of after my last message.

Could please someone reply does it really designed the way when hitting the land structures never cause malfunctions?
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RE: Can not get malfunctions with maverick

Post by Dimitris »

Thanks, there was indeed a bug with non-area weapons against large structures. It has been fixed for the next update release.
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