landing in a non base!

[tigercub]

landing in a non base Hex! my allied player thinks its gamey whats the thinking on this one?

Tigercub

[witpqs]

Not gamey.

[geofflambert]

What's gamey is defining what's got a base and what doesn't. Of course, you generally wanted to land close enough to a port that you intended to capture, so you could get supplies moving shortly after the landing. This was very meaningful in the ETO but most of the places in the PTO where amphibious landings occurred had nothing like the infrastructure that covered nearly every inch of the European coastline. The placement of "base" hexes in the game is somewhat arbitrary and there was nowhere US Marines were not prepared to land. Even for the Japanese, Attu and Kiska, are you kidding me? You call those base hexes? How about landing in the Everglades with your objective being Lake Okeechobee?

[GetAssista]

GAmey only if landing a small force for the sole purpose of cutting communications (shore rail line etc). Offensive landing is fine because of all the disablements and eventual problems with supply

[MakeeLearn]

ORIGINAL: geofflambert

What's gamey is defining what's got a base and what doesn't. Of course, you generally wanted to land close enough to a port that you intended to capture, so you could get supplies moving shortly after the landing. This was very meaningful in the ETO but most of the places in the PTO where amphibious landings occurred had nothing like the infrastructure that covered nearly every inch of the European coastline. The placement of "base" hexes in the game is somewhat arbitrary and there was nowhere US Marines were not prepared to land. Even for the Japanese, Attu and Kiska, are you kidding me? You call those base hexes? How about landing in the Everglades with your objective being Lake Okeechobee?

I see your Lake Okeechobee and raise you a Okefenokee Swamp.

[RangerJoe]

GAmey only if landing a small force for the sole purpose of cutting communications (shore rail line etc).

WRONG

the 8 sailors who blew up the train at near Kashiho, Japan conducted the ONLY GROUND COMBAT OPERATION on the Japanese "homeland" of World War II

[BBfanboy]

ORIGINAL: RangerJoe

GAmey only if landing a small force for the sole purpose of cutting communications (shore rail line etc).

WRONG

the 8 sailors who blew up the train at near Kashiho, Japan conducted the ONLY GROUND COMBAT OPERATION on the Japanese "homeland" of World War II

I'm pretty sure the Japanese thought that was "gamey".

[Jorge_Stanbury]

ORIGINAL: tigercub

landing in a non base Hex! my allied player thinks its gamey whats the thinking on this one?

Tigercub

good luck supplying it

to answer your question, unless it was a specific HR in your PBEM game, it is OK

[Leandros]

There was a saying by one of the US leders in the Pacific: "Hit them were they ain't".

Fred

[Zorch]

ORIGINAL: Leandros


There was a saying by one of the US leders in the Pacific: "Hit them were they ain't".

Fred

"Hit them were they ain't", is attributed to baseball player Wee Willie Keeler, circa 1900.

[Chickenboy]

ORIGINAL: Zorch

ORIGINAL: Leandros


There was a saying by one of the US leders in the Pacific: "Hit them were they ain't".

Fred

"Hit them were they ain't", is attributed to baseball player Wee Willie Keeler, circa 1900.

I'd listen to Zilch on this one, Leandros. He is a veritable encyclopedia of everything having to do with 'Wee Willies'.

[Zorch]

ORIGINAL: Chickenboy

ORIGINAL: Zorch

ORIGINAL: Leandros


There was a saying by one of the US leders in the Pacific: "Hit them were they ain't".

Fred

"Hit them were they ain't", is attributed to baseball player Wee Willie Keeler, circa 1900.

I'd listen to Zilch on this one, Leandros. He is a veritable encyclopedia of everything having to do with 'Wee Willies'.

Oh! Talk about hitting below the belt!

[Leandros]

ORIGINAL: Chickenboy

ORIGINAL: Zorch

ORIGINAL: Leandros


There was a saying by one of the US leders in the Pacific: "Hit them were they ain't".

Fred

"Hit them were they ain't", is attributed to baseball player Wee Willie Keeler, circa 1900.

I'd listen to Zilch on this one, Leandros. He is a veritable encyclopedia of everything having to do with 'Wee Willies'.

I'm sure but I'm talking about the war in the Pacific...was mr. Keeler there.....[;)]...So, here is the quiz: Which US leader
used this (perhaps taken from mr. Keeler) expression to define his preferred strategy..

Fred

Fred

[Buckrock]

Adm. Wilkinson used the motto when developing the concept of island hopping.

[BBfanboy]

I thought it was P.T. Barnum talking about the Whack-a-Mole game!

[rustysi]

GAmey only if landing a small force for the sole purpose of cutting communications (shore rail line etc).

I follow this view, and there are coastal areas where this could have a serious impact. My caveat would be any sized force.

[Macclan5]

Not gamey...

Especially if not predefined and agreed upon.

The additional provisions noted above i.e. a small "suicide force purely to cut SLOC" with no intention to rescue/liberate or relive them is gamey... but if its part of the strategy to take the base.... is it not exactly like a para drop ? The Moral imperative to relieve the force ?

Also - Questionable tactics depending upon the circumstances?

Since each hex represents 60 Nautical Miles ~ as I recall ~ that represents a landing (60 X 1.15) 69 miles away from target.

Its going to be a slow march to target... especially as few non base hexes are 'absolutely clear terrain' with roads. Perhaps Australia, China, India, USA, and one or two spots on the Japanese home islands.

Slows down the capture target most certainly with movement speed, crossing rivers, supply burn.

Better just to land at the base ? Project force and always 'bring enough'.

As always I suppose depends on circumstances.

[rustysi]

60 Nautical Miles

40.

[Dili]

ORIGINAL: RangerJoe

GAmey only if landing a small force for the sole purpose of cutting communications (shore rail line etc).

WRONG

the 8 sailors who blew up the train at near Kashiho, Japan conducted the ONLY GROUND COMBAT OPERATION on the Japanese "homeland" of World War II

It depends, was that the only railway/road in that hex? that is the problem, you can cut a 40nm hex with a 10 men party.

[RangerJoe]

I don't know but in mountainous terrain, often the only place to build such a railroad would be along the coast.

Give me a few men and supplies, I can make a road impassible for days. Whether it is in the forest, hills or whatever terrain it is.

I bet that it was gamey to the guard asleep in the watch tower that was not too far away. One of the landing party actually was climbing the tower.