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Fort level 0 at Johore Bahru - your bombardments really did shut down his effort there! Well done!

Very surprising. Especially since the Japanese always gather there before the assault. I would have thought forts 3.

Also surprised this happened in one attack. They must have been worn out. Those are 70+exp divisions facing troops that are 51exp, 57 exp and 59 exp.
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No supplies to build the forts.
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No supplies to build the forts.

Well, I'm talking long before the investment of Singers. It's 7 months ago.
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Even still, the last thing I'd have been doing in his position would have been "wasting" supplies on forts there.
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Even still, the last thing I'd have been doing in his position would have been "wasting" supplies on forts there.

Even after the landing behind your lines when you moved your 6 divisions out of Singapore back to Johore Baru? He had over a month there before I started bombarding.

To me it's just conventional thinking that the Japanese will always win out in the opening, and therefore don't need to think about defence until later. That's what led to all of this happening in the first place, really.

I walked two undefeated Dutch units back into an empty Benkolen, and took it a day before dropping 10k Allied troops and a pile of supply into it. A fortified base force sitting there would have stopped me cold, and then none of this actually would have happened.
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[font="Times New Roman"]July 23, 1942[/font]
It's been a busy weekend, both in game(s) and in the sunny backyard, where I've almost now finished a shed renovation, turning it into a bit of a workshop/mancave.

I've been itching to report, as we've had some action. The IJN moved boldly up toward the Allied CVs. I'd planned to sit back and get everything in order, then slowly proceed. It was a solid piece of aggressive play by Lowpe, who forced a CV clash and again wrecked the strike capability of the Allied carriers. He set almost all zeros to CAP, and only one small Kate strike flew at the Allies.

The Allied strikes were damaged but 70+ planes made it through, and unfortunately all but one missed their targets. There were severe storms which probably hd some effect. One Albacore managed to get in close and got a solid, penetrating hit on Soryu. All of the IJN CVs were seen smoking during the strikes, so they've got some damage on them, and with two previous 1000lb bomb hits, Soryu has to be hurting after a torpedo blow as well. Subs will converge now and the Allied armada will head back to Singers to refresh. I have a few more groups to add, and I can still be dangerous here, but it'll be tougher now to inflict a deathblow on the KB.

That said, 50 or so subs completely surround this position, and a slowed CV is a vulnerable one. In fact the entire KB could be more vulnerable with some damage, and also traveling with the slow Hosho in the task force as well. The inclusion of Hosho tells me that they are already slowed, or the addition of the 18 airframes she carries wouldn't be worth it.

So, another delay here, but good progress on the overall plans. Alor Star is now a functioning air base with 800+ AV marching to cut the road from Georgetown to the East coast of Malaya. If I can break open that hex it'll be a foot race after that. Lots o chaos and trapped IJA units. I'll also land a full Indian Brigade and a tank regiment at Georgetown next turn. This is to prevent units from Georgetown moving out (or to take the base if they do). Since it's on the coast though, too, I could do well with only this force here.
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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Groot Natoena at 59,80

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 39 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 15 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 100

Allied aircraft
Albacore I x 22
Fulmar II x 12
Martlet II x 14
Swordfish I x 13
F4F-3A Wildcat x 13
F4F-3 Wildcat x 15
F4F-4 Wildcat x 38
SBD-3 Dauntless x 39
TBF-1 Avenger x 40

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Albacore I: 4 destroyed, 7 damaged
Fulmar II: 1 destroyed
Martlet II: 4 destroyed
Swordfish I: 4 destroyed
F4F-3 Wildcat: 1 destroyed
F4F-4 Wildcat: 6 destroyed
SBD-3 Dauntless: 13 destroyed, 12 damaged
TBF-1 Avenger: 9 destroyed, 14 damaged
TBF-1 Avenger: 1 destroyed by flak


Japanese Ships
CV Kaga
CV Soryu, Torpedo hits 1
CV Akagi
CVE Hosho

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x TBF-1 Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 22.4in Mk 13 Torp.
10 x TBF-1 Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 22.4in Mk 13 Torp.
7 x TBF-1 Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 22.4in Mk 13 Torp.
3 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb
9 x Swordfish I launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Mk XII Torpedo
5 x Albacore I launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Mk XII Torpedo
7 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb
2 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb
3 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb
1 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb
8 x Albacore I launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Mk XII Torpedo
2 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 4000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb
4 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 4000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb

CAP engaged:
Akagi-1 with A6M2 Zero (6 airborne, 13 on standby, 5 scrambling)
6 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 10000 and 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 27 minutes
Ryujo-1 with A6M2 Zero (10 airborne, 22 on standby, 8 scrambling)
10 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 5000 and 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 26 minutes
Junyo-1 with A6M2 Zero (9 airborne, 20 on standby, 7 scrambling)
9 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 9000 and 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 32 minutes



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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Terempa at 56,82

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 65 NM, estimated altitude 25,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 27 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 24
B5N2 Kate x 25

Allied aircraft
Fulmar II x 5
Sea Hurricane Ib x 8
Martlet II x 18
F4F-3A Wildcat x 5
F4F-3 Wildcat x 6
F4F-4 Wildcat x 65

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 2 destroyed
B5N2 Kate: 10 destroyed


Allied aircraft losses
Sea Hurricane Ib: 1 destroyed
F4F-4 Wildcat: 2 destroyed


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The KB strike was only one group of Kates. All were destroyed. As you can see, it's within Val range. So he held them back. Dangerous, but so far got away with it.

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The air losses were not fun to look at.

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This is where we are now. The Allied fleet will move back to Singers and the subs will converge.

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Even with borked US torps, your subs must be driving him to distraction! [:D]

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That would be the Type 95-Mod 2.
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That would be the Type 95-Mod 2.
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Depends on the class of DD. Some never get it (the oldest of the prewar DDs, most of which convert to APD or E anyway). Others get it very soon, as early as January 1942, I think. Still others get it as kind of a "second tier" of upgrades.

The Fubukis and Mutsukis all get it on 1/43. The Minekaze gets it a bit later in 1943. The Kamikaze is stuck with Type 95 until 4/44 when it gets the even better Type 2.

All of the "modern" DDs at war's start have Type 95-Mod 2 at the least (Hatsuharu, Shiratsuyu, Asashio, Kagero). The Yugumo gets the Type 2 right away, and all further large DD classes get them upon completion as well.

The Tachibana and Matsu classes also start with Type 2.
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Wow- I had no idea the roll-out was that variable! Thanks for the thorough explanation! [&o]
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Depends on the class of DD. Some never get it (the oldest of the prewar DDs, most of which convert to APD or E anyway). Others get it very soon, as early as January 1942, I think. Still others get it as kind of a "second tier" of upgrades.

The Fubukis and Mutsukis all get it on 1/43. The Minekaze gets it a bit later in 1943. The Kamikaze is stuck with Type 95 until 4/44 when it gets the even better Type 2.

All of the "modern" DDs at war's start have Type 95-Mod 2 at the least (Hatsuharu, Shiratsuyu, Asashio, Kagero). The Yugumo gets the Type 2 right away, and all further large DD classes get them upon completion as well.

The Tachibana and Matsu classes also start with Type 2.

Yep, and the other ASW elements the air crews, are now well trained up. I have to move them around a lot. Even though this looks static, the screen has about 55 subs in the shot out of about 75 now available in the area) it's usually for only a turn or two. I move 50+ subs manually about every two turns. [:)]
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Depends on the class of DD. Some never get it (the oldest of the prewar DDs, most of which convert to APD or E anyway). Others get it very soon, as early as January 1942, I think. Still others get it as kind of a "second tier" of upgrades.

The Fubukis and Mutsukis all get it on 1/43. The Minekaze gets it a bit later in 1943. The Kamikaze is stuck with Type 95 until 4/44 when it gets the even better Type 2.

All of the "modern" DDs at war's start have Type 95-Mod 2 at the least (Hatsuharu, Shiratsuyu, Asashio, Kagero). The Yugumo gets the Type 2 right away, and all further large DD classes get them upon completion as well.

The Tachibana and Matsu classes also start with Type 2.

Yep, and the other ASW elements the air crews, are now well trained up. I have to move them around a lot. Even though this looks static, the screen has about 55 subs in the shot out of about 75 now available in the area) it's usually for only a turn or two. I move 50+ subs manually about every two turns. [:)]

I can't stand this part of the game. Way too much clicking. Setting sub PZs is the absolute worst in situations like this.
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[font="Times New Roman"]July 24, 1942[/font]
On the 24th the Allied fleets retire and the KB moves up toward Indochina. Just one hex in from of a bunch of subs. Most are "seen" but some are not, still.

Soem tense battles over Malaya, as we sent the 4Es after Temuloh, the biggest inland base the Japanese still have.

The troops at Johore do good work again today.

Tomorrow some surprises, I hope.
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Submarine attack near Jesselton at 67,83

Japanese Ships
xAP Tango Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

Allied Ships
SS L-14

xAP Tango Maru is sighted by SS L-14
SS L-14 launches 4 torpedoes at xAP Tango Maru

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Sub attack near Balabac at 68,83

Japanese Ships
xAP Palau Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

Allied Ships
SS KX

SS KX launches 4 torpedoes

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Morning Air attack on Temuloh , at 50,78

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 30 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M3 Zero x 24
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 34

Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 16

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 2 destroyed, 4 damaged
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 1 destroyed on ground
Ki-56 Thalia: 1 destroyed on ground
Ki-57-I Topsy: 1 destroyed on ground


Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress: 1 destroyed, 14 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
11 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Airbase hits 10
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 13

Aircraft Attacking:
5 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Temuloh , at 50,78

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 14 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M3 Zero x 20
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 25

Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 18
P-400 Airacobra x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M3 Zero: 1 destroyed
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 1 destroyed
Ki-56 Thalia: 1 destroyed on ground
Ki-57-I Topsy: 1 destroyed on ground


Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress: 4 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
9 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Airbase hits 7
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 9

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Temuloh , at 50,78

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 32 NM, estimated altitude 33,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M3 Zero x 12
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 17

Allied aircraft
P-38E Lightning x 22

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M3 Zero: 3 destroyed
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 4 destroyed


No Allied losses

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Morning Air attack on Temuloh , at 50,78

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 27 NM, estimated altitude 34,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M3 Zero x 2
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 6

Allied aircraft
P-39D Airacobra x 24

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M3 Zero: 1 destroyed
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 3 destroyed


No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
19 x P-39D Airacobra sweeping at 28000 feet

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Ground combat at Georgetown (49,74)

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 3391 troops, 35 guns, 2 vehicles, Assault Value = 103

Defending force 652 troops, 2 guns, 37 vehicles, Assault Value = 57

Assaulting units:
Sasebo 5th SNLF
Ichiki Det.
2nd Fleet
5th Field Construction Battalion
20th AA Regiment
21th JNAF AF Unit

Defending units:
150th RAC Regiment
26th Indian Bde /2

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Ground combat at Johore Bahru (50,83)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 33756 troops, 517 guns, 380 vehicles, Assault Value = 1168

Defending force 22351 troops, 155 guns, 29 vehicles, Assault Value = 495

Allied adjusted assault: 1150

Japanese adjusted defense: 107

Allied assault odds: 10 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), disruption(-), preparation(-), fatigue(-)
supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
2077 casualties reported
Squads: 7 destroyed, 180 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 23 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled
Guns lost 16 (1 destroyed, 15 disabled)


Allied ground losses:
683 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 57 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 5 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 18 disabled


Assaulting units:
11th Indian Division
18th British Division
22nd Australian Brigade
3rd Cavalry Regiment
1st USMC Tank Battalion
9th Indian Division
2nd Aus Hvy AA Regiment
22nd Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
109th RAF Adv Base Force
113th RAF Adv Base Force
134th Field Artillery Battalion
85th British AT Rgt /3

Defending units:
2nd/B Division
56th/C Division
56th/A Division
2nd/A Division
56th/B Division
2nd/C Division
4th/C Div /1
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So. I accidentally posted my Elephant AAR info here, and had to just transfer it over. I'l use the following posts today to try and flesh out this AAR now. [;)]
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This is where the KB ended up after the last turn. As you can see, it's very close to a lot of danger. More subs are moving from Singers and from the Sulu Sea this way.


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July 25th was another hard fought turn in the air. This, however, the last battle of the day, is the most important part.

After a long transit from the WC to the EC, to Cape Town and up through Sumatra to Singapore, the 1st USMC para regiment jump at Patani and take the base!!!

They eject a base force and an air HQ with heavy losses, and around 15-20 planes are destroyed on the ground!!

Most importantly this means the Allies have a base to land more troops. Now I'll push up with the Allied CVs guarding to try to land more here in the next few days, depending on the position of KB and BBs.

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