"It's the economy, stupid" BTSL NY59G (J) vs Gen Patton (A)

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43 Dec 24 & 25: The "Battle of Tabiteuea" and surround waters continues...

Subs: [>:]

CV:
24th - DS remains 1 NE of Tabiteuea. 3 SC TFs with KB are ordered in...2 to Tabby and one at DS

25th - DS and CVEs are retreating, but....

China:
Chungking - About 190 Helens daily followed by ground bb as IDs recover.

CenPac:
Tabiteuea - Action and more action.
24th -
Night Naval bombardment of Tabiteuea at 137,134 - Coastal Guns Fire Back!

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
H8K1 Emily: 26 damaged
N1K1-J George: 32 damaged
N1K1-J George: 2 destroyed on ground
A6M3b Zero: 16 damaged
A6M3b Zero: 4 destroyed on ground

39 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Allied Ships
BB Alabama, Shell hits 2
BB Massachusetts
BB Indiana
CA Rome
CA Wichita
CA Astoria
CA Salt Lake City
CA Northampton
CA Indianapolis
CL Mobile
CL Birmingham
CL Richmond
DD Clark
DD Daly
DD Cotten
DD Cony
DD Conway
DD Converse
DD Conner
DD Claxton
DD Chevalier
DD Chauncey
DD Charrette
DD Bush
DD Burns

Japanese ground losses:
219 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 9 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 11 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Airbase hits 15
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 17
Port hits 5
Port supply hits 1
I hope they stay for just one more day as they have been doing this for two days and should be out of ammo.
Ground combat at Tabiteuea (137,134)

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 64661 troops, 1240 guns, 820 vehicles, Assault Value = 1716

Defending force 32994 troops, 285 guns, 68 vehicles, Assault Value = 760

Allied adjusted assault: 493

Japanese adjusted defense: 614

Allied assault odds: 1 to 2 (fort level 5)

Combat modifiers
Defender: forts(+), disruption(-), experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+)

Japanese ground losses:
2881 casualties reported
Squads: 17 destroyed, 119 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 34 disabled
Engineers: 5 destroyed, 26 disabled
Guns lost 58 (3 destroyed, 55 disabled)
Vehicles lost 6 (1 destroyed, 5 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
8828 casualties reported
Squads: 316 destroyed, 132 disabled
Non Combat: 132 destroyed, 41 disabled
Engineers: 114 destroyed, 18 disabled
Guns lost 141 (94 destroyed, 47 disabled)
Vehicles lost 113 (90 destroyed, 23 disabled)
Units destroyed 3

Overstacking gives you results like this!

25th- A nice night with 0% moonlight!! [:)]
Night Time Surface Combat, near Tabiteuea at 137,134, Range 10,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CA Takao
CA Atago
CA Maya
CA Chokai
CLAA Tenryu
CLAA Tatsuta
DD Asashio
DD Oshio
DD Michishio
DD Minegumo
DD Asagumo
DD Asagiri
DD Sagiri
DD Yugiri
DD Ushio

Allied Ships
DE Gilmore, Shell hits 8, and is sunk
DE Griswold, Shell hits 5, and is sunk
DE William C. Miller, Shell hits 2, and is sunk
DE Seid, Shell hits 8, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
AK Triangulum, Shell hits 26, and is sunk
AK Ganymede, Shell hits 9, Torpedo hits 4, and is sunk
AK Bootes, Shell hits 25, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
LST-463, Shell hits 15, and is sunk
LST-464, Shell hits 5, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
LST-465, Shell hits 20, and is sunk
LST-466, Shell hits 15, and is sunk
LST-467, Shell hits 2, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
LST-468, Shell hits 9, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
LST-469, Shell hits 1, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
LST-470, Shell hits 7, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
LST-471, Shell hits 13, and is sunk
LST-472, Shell hits 6, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
LST-476, Shell hits 5, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
LST-477, Shell hits 2, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
LST-478, Shell hits 2, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
LST-479, Shell hits 4, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
LST-480, Shell hits 7, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
LST-481, Shell hits 3, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
LST-482, Shell hits 10, and is sunk
LST-483, Shell hits 12, and is sunk
LST-484, Shell hits 5, and is sunk

Japanese Ships Reported to be Approaching!
Allied TF begins to get underway
Reduced sighting due to 0% moonlight
Maximum visibility in Clear Conditions and 0% moonlight: 12,000 yards
Range closes to 25,000 yards...
CONTACT: Allies radar detects Japanese task force at 25,000 yards
Range closes to 20,000 yards...
CONTACT: Allies radar detects Japanese task force at 20,000 yards
Range closes to 15,000 yards...
CONTACT: Japanese radar detects Allied task force at 15,000 yards
Range closes to 10,000 yards...
CONTACT: Allies radar detects Japanese task force at 10,000 yards
CONTACT: Japanese radar detects Allied task force at 10,000 yards
LST-472 sunk by CA Chokai at 10,000 yards
DE William C. Miller sunk by CA Chokai at 10,000 yards
CA Chokai engages DE Griswold at 10,000 yards
CLAA Tatsuta engages DE Seid at 10,000 yards
CLAA Tatsuta engages AK Triangulum at 10,000 yards
DD Sagiri engages LST-483 at 10,000 yards
DD Asagiri engages DE Seid at 10,000 yards
LST-481 sunk by DD Sagiri at 10,000 yards
DD Sagiri engages LST-480 at 10,000 yards
DD Michishio engages DE Seid at 10,000 yards
DD Michishio engages LST-477 at 10,000 yards
DD Asagiri engages LST-470 at 10,000 yards
DD Asagiri engages LST-463 at 10,000 yards
Range closes to 7,000 yards
CLAA Tatsuta engages DE Seid at 7,000 yards
CA Maya engages DE Seid at 7,000 yards
DD Yugiri engages AK Ganymede at 7,000 yards
DD Yugiri engages AK Triangulum at 7,000 yards
DD Asagiri engages LST-483 at 7,000 yards
DD Sagiri engages DE Seid at 7,000 yards
DD Asagiri engages LST-480 at 7,000 yards
DD Asagumo engages DE Seid at 7,000 yards
DD Minegumo engages DE Seid at 7,000 yards
DE Seid sunk by DD Asashio at 7,000 yards
Range closes to 5,000 yards
CLAA Tenryu engages DE Griswold at 5,000 yards
CA Takao engages AK Triangulum at 5,000 yards
CLAA Tatsuta engages LST-483 at 5,000 yards
DD Asagumo engages LST-484 at 5,000 yards
LST-480 sunk by DD Ushio at 5,000 yards
DD Yugiri engages AK Triangulum at 5,000 yards
LST-478 sunk by DD Asagiri at 5,000 yards
LST-477 sunk by DD Asashio at 5,000 yards
DD Michishio engages LST-483 at 5,000 yards
DD Asashio engages LST-470 at 5,000 yards
DD Michishio engages LST-464 at 5,000 yards
Range closes to 3,000 yards
CA Chokai engages DE Griswold at 3,000 yards
CA Takao engages DE Gilmore at 3,000 yards
DD Yugiri engages AK Bootes at 3,000 yards
DE Griswold sunk by CA Takao at 3,000 yards
DD Asagiri engages AK Triangulum at 3,000 yards
DD Yugiri engages AK Ganymede at 3,000 yards
DD Asagumo engages LST-479 at 3,000 yards
DD Asagiri engages LST-463 at 3,000 yards
AK Ganymede sunk by DD Asagumo at 3,000 yards
DD Minegumo engages AK Triangulum at 3,000 yards
DD Sagiri engages LST-469 at 3,000 yards
DD Minegumo engages LST-468 at 3,000 yards
LST-470 sunk by DD Asashio at 3,000 yards
DD Minegumo engages LST-465 at 3,000 yards
DD Yugiri engages LST-464 at 3,000 yards
CA Chokai engages LST-463 at 3,000 yards
DD Asagumo engages AK Bootes at 3,000 yards
AK Triangulum sunk by CA Atago at 3,000 yards
LST-483 sunk by CLAA Tatsuta at 3,000 yards
CLAA Tenryu engages AK Bootes at 3,000 yards
LST-469 sunk by DD Ushio at 3,000 yards
DD Sagiri engages AK Bootes at 3,000 yards
DD Oshio engages LST-465 at 3,000 yards
LST-464 sunk by DD Asagumo at 3,000 yards
LST-463 sunk by DD Yugiri at 3,000 yards
CA Maya engages DE Gilmore at 3,000 yards
Massive explosion on LST-466
CA Maya engages LST-466 at 3,000 yards
AK Bootes sunk by CA Atago at 3,000 yards
LST-476 sunk by CA Takao at 3,000 yards
CLAA Tatsuta engages LST-466 at 3,000 yards
DD Ushio engages LST-465 at 3,000 yards
LST-479 sunk by DD Sagiri at 3,000 yards
LST-466 sunk by DD Yugiri at 3,000 yards
Range increases to 4,000 yards
CA Takao engages DE Gilmore at 4,000 yards
CA Maya engages DE Gilmore at 4,000 yards
DD Michishio engages LST-468 at 4,000 yards
DE Gilmore sunk by CLAA Tenryu at 4,000 yards
LST-465 sunk by DD Asagiri at 4,000 yards
DD Asagiri engages LST-468 at 4,000 yards
CLAA Tatsuta collides with DD Yugiri at 137 , 134
LST-484 sunk by CA Chokai at 4,000 yards
DD Yugiri engages LST-471 at 4,000 yards
DD Asagumo engages LST-468 at 4,000 yards
LST-467 sunk by DD Sagiri at 4,000 yards
DD Asashio engages LST-471 at 4,000 yards
DD Oshio engages LST-468 at 4,000 yards
LST-468 sunk by DD Asagumo at 4,000 yards
CA Chokai engages LST-482 at 4,000 yards
CA Maya engages LST-482 at 4,000 yards
LST-482 sunk by CA Takao at 4,000 yards
DD Asagiri engages LST-471 at 4,000 yards
Range increases to 5,000 yards
CLAA Tatsuta engages LST-471 at 5,000 yards
Range increases to 6,000 yards
DD Sagiri engages LST-471 at 6,000 yards
CA Chokai engages LST-471 at 6,000 yards
LST-471 sunk by CA Chokai at 6,000 yards
LST-471 sunk by CA Chokai at 6,000 yards
Combat ends with last Allied ship sunk

BANZAI!! BANZAI!!
...
Night Time Surface Combat, near Tabiteuea at 137,133, Range 10,000 Yards

Allied aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft losses
F6F-3 Hellcat: 26 destroyed
SBD-5 Dauntless: 21 destroyed
F4F-7 Wildcat: 3 destroyed
FM-1 Wildcat: 11 destroyed

Japanese Ships
CA Myoko
CA Haguro, Shell hits 2
CA Nachi, Shell hits 8, on fire
CA Ashigara
CA Seiki
CA Chishima, Shell hits 2
CA Miyako, Shell hits 1
CA Yoshino, Shell hits 1
DD Takanami
DD Naganami
DD Suzunami
DD Fujinami
DD Yugure
DD Ariake
DD Kayobuki, Shell hits 1
DD Mazabuki, Shell hits 7, heavy fires, heavy damage [SUNK]

Allied Ships
CV Lexington, Shell hits 13, Torpedo hits 5, and is sunk
CV Bunker Hill
CV Intrepid
CV Crown Point
CVL Princeton
CVL Monterey
CVL Varennes, Shell hits 1
CVL Chateau Thierry, Shell hits 2
CVL Jacksonville
CA Baltimore
CLAA Atlanta, Shell hits 1
CLAA Juneau, Shell hits 2, on fire
CLAA San Diego, Shell hits 1
CLAA Oakland
CL Denver, Shell hits 6, on fire
CL Santa Fe, Shell hits 1
DD Fletcher
DD Abbot
DD Ammen
DD Aulick, Shell hits 1
DD Charles Ausburne
DD Boyd
DD Bradford
DD Braine
DD Brownson, Shell hits 1

Reduced sighting due to 0% moonlight
Maximum visibility in Clear Conditions and 0% moonlight: 11,000 yards
Range closes to 25,000 yards...
CONTACT: Allies radar detects Japanese task force at 25,000 yards
CONTACT: Japanese radar detects Allied task force at 25,000 yards
Range closes to 20,000 yards...
CONTACT: Allies radar detects Japanese task force at 20,000 yards
CONTACT: Japanese radar detects Allied task force at 20,000 yards
Range closes to 15,000 yards...
CONTACT: Allies radar detects Japanese task force at 15,000 yards
CONTACT: Japanese radar detects Allied task force at 15,000 yards
Range closes to 10,000 yards...
CONTACT: Allies radar detects Japanese task force at 10,000 yards
CONTACT: Japanese radar detects Allied task force at 10,000 yards
Kiyota, Takahiko* crosses the 'T'
CA Yoshino engages CV Lexington at 10,000 yards
CA Miyako engages CV Lexington at 10,000 yards
CA Chishima engages CV Lexington at 10,000 yards
CA Seiki engages CV Lexington at 10,000 yards
CA Ashigara engages CV Lexington at 10,000 yards
CA Yoshino engages CVL Chateau Thierry at 10,000 yards
CA Nachi engages CVL Varennes at 10,000 yards
CA Myoko engages CVL Monterey at 10,000 yards
DD Mazabuki engages CV Lexington at 10,000 yards
DD Kayobuki engages CV Lexington at 10,000 yards
CA Nachi engages CL Santa Fe at 10,000 yards
CL Denver engages CA Nachi at 10,000 yards
CA Nachi engages CLAA Oakland at 10,000 yards
CLAA San Diego engages CA Nachi at 10,000 yards
DD Takanami engages CV Lexington at 10,000 yards
Range closes to 7,000 yards
CA Yoshino engages CV Lexington at 7,000 yards
CA Chishima engages CV Lexington at 7,000 yards
CA Nachi engages CV Lexington at 7,000 yards
CA Ashigara engages CV Lexington at 7,000 yards
CA Nachi engages CVL Chateau Thierry at 7,000 yards
CA Haguro engages CVL Varennes at 7,000 yards
CA Myoko engages CV Lexington at 7,000 yards
DD Mazabuki engages DD Brownson at 7,000 yards
CA Nachi engages CA Baltimore at 7,000 yards
CL Santa Fe engages CA Nachi at 7,000 yards
CL Denver engages CA Nachi at 7,000 yards
DD Fujinami engages DD Brownson at 7,000 yards
CA Nachi engages CLAA San Diego at 7,000 yards
CA Haguro engages CLAA Juneau at 7,000 yards
DD Takanami engages DD Brownson at 7,000 yards
DD Brownson engages DD Takanami at 7,000 yards
DD Takanami engages DD Charles Ausburne at 7,000 yards
DD Fletcher engages DD Mazabuki at 7,000 yards
Range closes to 5,000 yards
DD Bradford collides with CL Denver at 137 , 133
CA Yoshino engages CL Santa Fe at 5,000 yards
CA Miyako engages CV Lexington at 5,000 yards
Ammo storage explosion on CV Lexington
CA Chishima engages CV Lexington at 5,000 yards
CV Lexington sunk by CA Seiki at 5,000 yards
CA Nachi engages CVL Chateau Thierry at 5,000 yards
CA Nachi engages CVL Varennes at 5,000 yards
CA Nachi engages CVL Monterey at 5,000 yards
DD Mazabuki engages DD Brownson at 5,000 yards
CA Baltimore engages CA Nachi at 5,000 yards
CA Nachi engages CL Santa Fe at 5,000 yards
DD Brownson engages DD Yugure at 5,000 yards
DD Brownson engages DD Fujinami at 5,000 yards
DD Suzunami engages DD Fletcher at 5,000 yards
DD Naganami engages DD Brownson at 5,000 yards
CA Nachi engages CLAA Atlanta at 5,000 yards
DD Mazabuki engages DD Braine at 5,000 yards
Range closes to 4,000 yards
CA Ashigara collides with DD Mazabuki at 137 , 133
CV Crown Point collides with CLAA San Diego at 137 , 133
CA Yoshino engages CLAA San Diego at 4,000 yards
CA Miyako engages CLAA San Diego at 4,000 yards
CA Chishima engages CV Bunker Hill at 4,000 yards
DD Mazabuki engages CVL Chateau Thierry at 4,000 yards
CA Nachi engages CL Denver at 4,000 yards
CLAA Oakland engages CA Haguro at 4,000 yards
CA Myoko engages CVL Princeton at 4,000 yards
DD Brownson engages DD Mazabuki at 4,000 yards
DD Kayobuki engages DD Fletcher at 4,000 yards
CA Seiki engages CL Denver at 4,000 yards
CLAA Oakland engages DD Yugure at 4,000 yards
DD Fujinami engages DD Brownson at 4,000 yards
CLAA Juneau engages CA Haguro at 4,000 yards
DD Naganami engages DD Brownson at 4,000 yards
DD Takanami engages DD Brownson at 4,000 yards
DD Kayobuki engages DD Aulick at 4,000 yards
Range increases to 7,000 yards
DD Suzunami engages CV Crown Point at 7,000 yards
CA Miyako engages CL Denver at 7,000 yards
CA Chishima engages CLAA Atlanta at 7,000 yards
DD Mazabuki engages CVL Jacksonville at 7,000 yards
CA Ashigara engages CL Santa Fe at 7,000 yards
DD Kayobuki engages CVL Varennes at 7,000 yards
CA Myoko engages CLAA Oakland at 7,000 yards
CA Nachi engages CA Baltimore at 7,000 yards
DD Kayobuki engages DD Charles Ausburne at 7,000 yards
CA Ashigara engages CL Denver at 7,000 yards
DD Charles Ausburne engages DD Yugure at 7,000 yards
CA Nachi engages CLAA San Diego at 7,000 yards
CA Nachi engages CLAA Juneau at 7,000 yards
DD Naganami engages DD Charles Ausburne at 7,000 yards
DD Takanami engages DD Brownson at 7,000 yards
DD Mazabuki engages DD Braine at 7,000 yards
DD Mazabuki engages DD Aulick at 7,000 yards
DD Abbot engages DD Naganami at 7,000 yards
Allied Task Force Manages to Escape
Task forces break off...

India Ocean:
Diego Garcia is invaded on 25th and falls. [:(]
Ground combat at Diego Garcia (11,62)

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 17135 troops, 350 guns, 814 vehicles, Assault Value = 729

Defending force 5312 troops, 95 guns, 12 vehicles, Assault Value = 161

Allied adjusted assault: 251

Japanese adjusted defense: 8

Allied assault odds: 31 to 1 (fort level 3)

Allied forces CAPTURE Diego Garcia !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: disruption(-), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker: shock(+), disruption(-)

Japanese ground losses:
1243 casualties reported
Squads: 3 destroyed, 115 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 6 disabled
Engineers: 4 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 56 (18 destroyed, 38 disabled)
Vehicles lost 11 (11 destroyed, 0 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
152 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 17 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 4 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled
Vehicles lost 8 (1 destroyed, 7 disabled)


Assaulting units:
13th Armoured Div /28
81st (West African) Div /10
18th Marine Defense Battalion
19th USN Naval Construction Regiment

Defending units:
2nd Maizuru Assault Division

Notes:
Ki-67-Ia (T) Peggy to 3/44

In hindsight, my SC TF with 3 fast BBs should have gone to his CV TF, rather than Tabiteuea and end up hitting a mine.

KB will head east to see if I can get lucky while my 3 x SC TF head back to port

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Brian is in the process of surrendering to the Japanese Empire. Banzai!! [:)]

I've opened a new thread in "Opponents Wanted" to find an Allied replacement player.
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Brian is in the process of surrendering to the Japanese Empire. Banzai!! [:)]

I've opened a new thread in "Opponents Wanted" to find an Allied replacement player.

Did you find someone to continue?
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I've gotten one PM and three others posting some interest. No one has contacted Brian yet for files and PW as I got an email from him last night.

I really want a chance to sink CVB Midway. [:D]
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I've gotten one PM and three others posting some interest. No one has contacted Brian yet for files and PW as I got an email from him last night.

I really want a chance to sink CVB Midway. [:D]

You have to get past hundreds of B-29s that want to ruin your econ before you get to see Midway!! First things first. [:D]
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Way to kill my 'little fantasy' Erik! [:D]

Months ago I was talking with John about BTS and BTSL and future changes. At that time a book I was reading had the main character in Argentina and somebody on this board I think mentioned a German BB (I think it was a series from 60s now on YouTube). So, I got John to research if Japan had any plans for pocket-BB. There were plans for a 12" gun, but no pocket. So, in new BTS version Japan has the Niitaka Class CAs come with 6 x 12" guns while the Allies now get two more Alaska BCs (Puerto Rico and Hawaii). This will be in BTS version, not BTSL.

Hopefully, this game continues so both sides get to play with the late war toys. New changes to BTS may have the same effect for those playing new games. My goal is simple....complete a game (into 45 or 46) with Japan and then as Allies. If this game doesn't continue, I'll be looking for a new game BTS or BTSL to work on that goal.
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Well done. I bet you have problems finding a replacement, as most players want a strong position. My guess is there is much that needs attention here, especially given the hectic pace you guys have played at.

Wouldn't bother me though, I like em ugly.[:D]
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I may have found a replacement Allied player in AcePylut (Darryn). I think he has everything he needs including the Dec 1st turn. Fingers crossed. [;)]
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Sent PM to both his home email addresses last night. Please stand by.

Meanwhile, I'm playing Allies vs AI (Long Road to Tokyo) and at end of Dec 41. AI is planning to invade Hiva Oa. AI scripts are from Andy Mac, so he must be channeling his inner John 3rd. [:D] I've already lost Hilo, Kona, Midway, Johnson, Christmas Island, Coal Harbour, and Noumea.
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The Nor'easter, 4th in a month heading towards DC and portions north.
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