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If he's Dunkirking and never really intended to fight at Singers, you're almost certainly right. If he's been reinforcing, then he's been bringing in supply too. I haven't contested these sees, so it would be easy to bring supply over from Palembang, Soerabaja, etc.
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5/1/45

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Could those EEEs be left over from the AO/TK TF you slaughtered, making their way to his distant bases?
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The AO/TK battle took place far to the northwest of Midway. These EEs may be escorting other oilers coming from the Marianas or Truk.
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5/1/45

Intel Screen: AV gauge moving in the right direction again.

How to close the deal now; to actually achieve auto victory? Japan may lose 1,000 Army Loss Points in the next ten days, depending on further success of John's Dunkirking at Fusan.

Allies should pick up somewhere between 250 and 1,250 points for Bases in the next ten days if I manage to pick up Peiping timely and it's fully supplied.

The war at sea probably won't offer a decided advantage unless John banzaiis. The air war, too, unless he unleashes kamikazes that don't score well.

Strategic Bombing is the most reliable way to close the deal. John still has a strong fighter corps, though much of it has been posted at Fusan and Singers the past few days. He'll bring them home and we'll play cat-and-mouse as he tries to devine which targets will be hit. I bet he loads up Osaka tomorrow.




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A lot of Jills and Graces on the ground there. Might that show a disembarked carrier strike group with the fighters elsewhere?
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Or, if you take Singapore, that would almost tip you over the AV threshold by itself :P

I don't think it's impossible with what you are moving there. It's a lot of decent troops, and it seems he doens't have tanks to contend against your tanks, not even counting the quality disparity between them.
I too do think it likely he doesn't have that much supply. Nor forts above lvl 6. Conquering the city in 10 days or less just might be possible...
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5/2/45

KB: Watching this is part spectator sport, part wondering what notion John is working. Is it nothing more than keeping KB as far from danger as possible "here at the end of all things"?

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5/2/45

Singapore: Allies cross and attack in good order but the results, shy of 1:1, are disappointing. The enemy garrison is a cobbled-together group of modest AVs - alot of units from 50 AV to 150 AV. That's an issue that might be exploited, given time. But time is short. On the plus side, it was fun to do this and learn from it, and now I'll go to work reducing the city just in case reduction is necessary to victory.

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5/2/45

Air War: Effective 4EB strike vs. Osaka today. Heavy sweep action of the heart of John's remaining fighter defenses: Nagoya, Yokahama and Tokyo. Both sides took very heavy losses. I haven't looked at my squadrons yet, but my pools were already worrisome. How long can I take this? How long can John?

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5/2/45

China: The advance on Peiping is underway. Nothing much left to do here.

Korea: The Allied campaign for Fusan and southern Korea is going to conclude pretty soon, creating a massive base of operations adjacent to the Home Islands and freeing up a massive Western Allied army prepping for Home Islands targets. Is there time to implement such an invasion? I don't think so, but I'm working the angle.

Victory: John told me months ago that if I focused on taking the Asian mainland, the Allies likely wouldn't invade the Home Islands until late summer. In all likelihood, the invasion would actually take place by the end of May or early June. Enemy opposition in China and Korea has utterly collapsed.

Admitting Defeat: For a long time, the feeling I got from John and some of his staff members was that Japan hadn't been defeated because the economy was humming, KB still existed, and "the Japanese flag still flew over Singapore." John may still feel exactly the same. But the Empire has declined dramatically over the past six weeks. He still has a fleet; he still has an air force; he may still have an economy. But what a state the Empire is in overall. If the game did continue until August, I think the Allies would take Singers, Java, most of Sumatra, and a fair bit of the Homes Islands. I'd be willing to proceed if John wants to (I don't think the will). In fact, I think the Allies could take all the Home Islands and achieve 3x victory by the end of '45.

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5/2/45

Intel Screen: Decent progress towards victory. The situation in Korea is tremendous, but Singers and touch fighter battles dampened scoring on the day.

I haven't looked at the state of my fighter corps and bomber squadrons. If they are up to fighting again tomorrow, the day was a good day. If they are too battered, then today was tough.

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Speaking for myself, it would be great to see you guys duke it out to December.

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I wouldnt, JIII is stuffing around, playing and winning his own game.

CR would be doing all of the work and wasting another 6 mths of his life.
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Well, that's one way of looking at it. :)

I don't think John's playing and winning his own game. He's done some good things the past few days (we both have, really). But the game isn't about who scores more runs in the 8th or 9th inning. It's about who wins the game. The game has it own rhythm - up and down or, as I called them yesterday, perturbations. John is good enough and experienced enough and has enough left to work angles and strike and make some noise. Hey, he stuck it out and he's playing hard! But the Allies are rolling forward and winning the war by a decisive margin and early.
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Well, that's one way of looking at it. :)

I don't think John's playing and winning his own game. He's done some good things the past few days (we both have, really). But the game isn't about who scores more runs in the 8th or 9th inning. It's about who wins the game. The game has it own rhythm - up and down or, as I called them yesterday, perturbations. John is good enough and experienced enough and has enough left to work angles and strike and make some noise. Hey, he stuck it out and he's playing hard! But the Allies are rolling forward and winning the war by a decisive margin and early.

I have to say that I was wrong about John and this game. Kudos to him and you for a fun adventure!
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He's done some good things the past few days (we both have, really). B

John is a damn good Navy guy. He really knows how to get the most out of his ships and how to time them so they have maximum impact with minimum exposure. That makes it all the more frustrating as to why he didn't try to intervene sooner. He really should work on a mode that has 8 more CA's instead of 8 more CV's. He would be unbeatable
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He's a navy guy first, no doubt. That's where his heart is. He's always been good with air power too (or he is compared to me). And he's good at using the initiative with combined armed tactics at the start of the war to overwhelm an opponent. Against a newbie or fairly inexperienced player, the opening year can be lethal.

His weaknesses: (1) leaving gaping holes in his deep land defenses; (2) sailing carriers around without detection or awareness of the location of enemy carriers; (3) the land war, especially in China; and (4) opinions so strongly set that he doesn't seem to adapt his thinking even if clearly wrong.

With respect to 1 and 2, he never changed during the game. I thought he'd learn from the Big Tent operation to defend deeper, but Luzon was open, then China, then Formosa really, and finally southern Korea. It's hard for an IJ player to defend everything, but John continuously threw everything forward and kept it there even while his rear was wide open.

He got stung in the '43 carrier raid by moving about without detection on my carriers, but he was doing the same thing in the South China Sea and in SoPac in late '44 and '45.

Regarding the land war in China, I am nearly certain he won't make that mistake again - stopping after taking Changsha and declearing a unilateral ceasefire. Huge mistake on his part. We haven't discussed it, but I bet he recongizes it and will handle China far differently in the future.

Regarding adapting, his notion about how 4EB and Death Star should or should not be used seemed to fix him in an intransigent philosphy of "it's not fair so I'm not going to address it." John would benefit tremendously from taking counsel of experienced, knowledgeable IJ players who know how to deal with those things. He ought to start with Lokasenna, Obvert and Lowpe. Those are three IJ players I follow who don't bat an eye at things like those and know how to effectively counter them. (I'm sure there are many other IJ players too, but those are three that I've followed carefully over the past year or two.)

As for me, I'll save self analysis for a later time, if it seems pertinent and of interest. I think I know some of my weaknesses. I think I know some better than readers do. And I think readers know some that I don't recognize as I sail blythfully along in Honahlee, looking for ol' Puff.
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A brief tangent to illustrate one of the things an editor does (an editor at a small publication, any how). The story I'm working on about a Holocaust survivor who met and married an American GI includes this paragraph:

The group remained in a Salzburg, Austria, camp five months at the invitation of the camp director, who asked them to welcome new refugees and assist in operations. In the evenings, they sang, danced, and played games. One evening, an American soldier in uniform entered the camp. He was from Chicago and part of the 66th (Black Panther) Infantry Division of the Sixth Army Group. He wanted to practice his Hebrew. His own survival had been a miracle. On Christmas Eve 1944, his division left Southampton, England, to cross the English Channel and replace troops at the Battle of the Bulge. The other ship, the SS Leopoldville, was torpedoed by a German submarine off the coast of Cherbourg. Harold’s ship diverted to rescue survivors, but the 66th had lost about one-third of their men and weren’t up to fighting strength and didn’t join the Battle of the Bulge after all.

As I was working with the first few sentences of the paragraph, I cross-checked to make sure the unit designation, affiliation and nickname were correct. The 66th Div. was known as the Black Panther Division. Check. But as best I can tell, the 66th Div. wasn't ever part of the 6th Army Group, but rather was (at the applicable time) part of the 15th A.G. What to do? It's possible the 66th was briefly or informally attached to the 6th, but who knows. That may be a complicated command issue that isn't really pertinent to the story at all. Solution: suggest to the author that we omit mention of Sixth Army Group.

The second part of the paragraph includes the sinking of the Leopoldville. I haven't looked into that yet to make sure the ship name is right, the date of the sinking is right, and that the 66th Div. was aboard. Details.
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Leopoldville

As to the Leopoldville I can refer you to this site....which seems to have the accepted, accurate information and a picture of eh a black panther. Dates seem to line up http://leopoldville.org/
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