The Good The Bad & The Indifferent
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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent
I predict that J3's carriers will make their last stand at Bikini Atoll.
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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent
2/13/45
I haven't run the turn yet, but this was John's email message:
Not the turn I expected.
You want Bushido? I think I have seized on a plan worthy of any SamuraI!
I haven't run the turn yet, but this was John's email message:
Not the turn I expected.
You want Bushido? I think I have seized on a plan worthy of any SamuraI!
"Rats set fire to Mr. Cooper’s store in Fort Valley. No damage done." Columbus (Ga) Enquirer-Sun, October 2, 1880.
RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent
Hey, if he wants to go down in flames, it'll be interesting at least.
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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent
I keep repeating the mantra .. but the IJ have zero supply propagating from Fusan .. do post a combat report when the supply goes (-) in central China
The bases will start to deplete first I imagine .. I have forgotten do the IJ victory points go down each turn as supply decreases below thresholds for bases? If so it might be a clue that the point has been reached.
The bases will start to deplete first I imagine .. I have forgotten do the IJ victory points go down each turn as supply decreases below thresholds for bases? If so it might be a clue that the point has been reached.
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2/13/45
I haven't run the turn yet, but this was John's email message:
Not the turn I expected.
You want Bushido? I think I have seized on a plan worthy of any SamuraI!
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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent
Japan shows a "(-) supply" for most or all combats in China. We'll know more when the Battle of Tsinan commences in a couple of days (I'm waiting to envelop the hex from the rear to limit John's ability to rail in reinforcements. He has two divisions and a mixed brigade there now, so he intends to make a fight there.
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Hawaii: John has a sub working the lanes just north of Pearl. It's caught wind of several big cargo TFs. Usually, this prompts John to raid. I don't have enough combat ships in this vicinity to provide protection, so I'm going to (at least temporarily) eliminate Pearl as a supply depot. From this point forward, supply will move directly from West Coast to SoPac.
Hawaii: John has a sub working the lanes just north of Pearl. It's caught wind of several big cargo TFs. Usually, this prompts John to raid. I don't have enough combat ships in this vicinity to provide protection, so I'm going to (at least temporarily) eliminate Pearl as a supply depot. From this point forward, supply will move directly from West Coast to SoPac.
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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent
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DEI: Other than a successful alpha-strike against Death Star, the most effective thing John could do now would be to successfully interdict Allied supply. He can't do it by nibbling at the edges - Hawaii, SoPac, whatever. The only way he can do it is to hit the accumulation of ships at Boela. The only way he can do that is to penetrate the defenses. Boela is strongly held with lots of air power there and nearby. The weakness is combat ships. There's enough there to provide some protection - but not against a full KB/Kaigun onslaught. I'm working to beef up those defenses but a full-on onslaught by John's navy would definitely be scary times. He hasn't done this before because he knows its a hard target that can bite back. But Death Star is a harder target, so he might ratchet up his resolve enough to pull the trigger.
DEI: Other than a successful alpha-strike against Death Star, the most effective thing John could do now would be to successfully interdict Allied supply. He can't do it by nibbling at the edges - Hawaii, SoPac, whatever. The only way he can do it is to hit the accumulation of ships at Boela. The only way he can do that is to penetrate the defenses. Boela is strongly held with lots of air power there and nearby. The weakness is combat ships. There's enough there to provide some protection - but not against a full KB/Kaigun onslaught. I'm working to beef up those defenses but a full-on onslaught by John's navy would definitely be scary times. He hasn't done this before because he knows its a hard target that can bite back. But Death Star is a harder target, so he might ratchet up his resolve enough to pull the trigger.
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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent
A Kamikaze Fireworks against Death Star would make any Samurai smile.
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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent
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Fancy Pants & Funnel Cakes: Fairly quiet today, as Allied armies are mostly in transit - to Canton, into northernmost China, and against southernmost Korea. Tomorrow should be a noisy day from my perspective. Any day could be a noisy day from John's, depending on when he unleashes the Kaigun or the Kamikazes or the Koi Fish or whatever he has in mind.
Fancy Pants & Funnel Cakes: Fairly quiet today, as Allied armies are mostly in transit - to Canton, into northernmost China, and against southernmost Korea. Tomorrow should be a noisy day from my perspective. Any day could be a noisy day from John's, depending on when he unleashes the Kaigun or the Kamikazes or the Koi Fish or whatever he has in mind.
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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent
Kamikazes or the Koi Fish or whatever he has in mind.
Kamikaze shower curtains???
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Don't drop the soap!!!!
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I suspect Shanghai is depleted for the same reasons John has a major problem developing in China (if it is already not a major problem) .. the supply is pulsing like waves from bases to the units in the field doing things ..the more he does .. the bigger this draw .. you have the major means for bringing in fresh supplies (Fusan) cutoff ... The end is near ..
You also answered my question that the points for bases do fluctuate each turn ..
You also answered my question that the points for bases do fluctuate each turn ..
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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent
2/15/45
Fancy Pants & Funnel Cakes: An interesting battle in Korea - I lose it but I think overall it went well. The sweepers swept first, to good effect. The Liberators hit hard. And the Japanese overwhelmed (four divisions + to one division). Overall the diminution to John's fighting power may make it hard for him to press forward.
Allied strategic bombing went well, though I did lose 13 Superforts setting 145k fires at Kanazawa and 60k at Hiroshima.
The amazing thing is just how stretched I am. I need supply. I need fighters to sweep in Korea and in northern China. I need bombers against the Home Islands and critical targets in Korea and China. My LOC now stretches from Korea to China to Formosa to Luzon to the DEI to Oz to SoPac. Along the way, each area requires appropriate combat ship and CAP protection. I have hundreds of fighters at Gunzan, Shanghai, Ningpo, Taichu, Manila, Boela, Oz. The Allies have an immense OOB, but at this moment it's stretched very far - and in places very thin - to allow for security while also prosecuting the war.
I think the key now is Korea. In a week or so Gunzan will be a level 7 airfield. Allied LBA can sweep and bomb the Home Islands and major targets in Korea and Manchuria. But I'm going to need that infusion of supply within the month. How do I detach Death Star to go retrieve it? Can I split DS? Can I figure out a way to get the supply in without using DS? Or must I suck it up and just devote DS for the 21 days or so it will take to cover that operation?
Big questions.
It's February 1945. The Allied OOB is spectacular. The Allied position (Korea! China!) is excellent. I have an opponent doing everything he can to figure out ways to blunt and nibble and frustrate. The challenges are tremendous. What a game!
Fancy Pants & Funnel Cakes: An interesting battle in Korea - I lose it but I think overall it went well. The sweepers swept first, to good effect. The Liberators hit hard. And the Japanese overwhelmed (four divisions + to one division). Overall the diminution to John's fighting power may make it hard for him to press forward.
Allied strategic bombing went well, though I did lose 13 Superforts setting 145k fires at Kanazawa and 60k at Hiroshima.
The amazing thing is just how stretched I am. I need supply. I need fighters to sweep in Korea and in northern China. I need bombers against the Home Islands and critical targets in Korea and China. My LOC now stretches from Korea to China to Formosa to Luzon to the DEI to Oz to SoPac. Along the way, each area requires appropriate combat ship and CAP protection. I have hundreds of fighters at Gunzan, Shanghai, Ningpo, Taichu, Manila, Boela, Oz. The Allies have an immense OOB, but at this moment it's stretched very far - and in places very thin - to allow for security while also prosecuting the war.
I think the key now is Korea. In a week or so Gunzan will be a level 7 airfield. Allied LBA can sweep and bomb the Home Islands and major targets in Korea and Manchuria. But I'm going to need that infusion of supply within the month. How do I detach Death Star to go retrieve it? Can I split DS? Can I figure out a way to get the supply in without using DS? Or must I suck it up and just devote DS for the 21 days or so it will take to cover that operation?
Big questions.
It's February 1945. The Allied OOB is spectacular. The Allied position (Korea! China!) is excellent. I have an opponent doing everything he can to figure out ways to blunt and nibble and frustrate. The challenges are tremendous. What a game!
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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent
Marines do not get the Strat movement on roads ability that US Army units get. I suspect it is because they are supposed to have fewer vehicles (because those might impede their ability to load up and land amphibiously).
EDIT: Note that there does not seem to be a check on the actual presence of vehicles in the unit - US Army units can strat move on roads even if they have few vehicles.
EDIT: Note that there does not seem to be a check on the actual presence of vehicles in the unit - US Army units can strat move on roads even if they have few vehicles.
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Marines do not get the Strat movement on roads ability that US Army units get. I suspect it is because they are supposed to have fewer vehicles (because those might impede their ability to load up and land amphibiously).
EDIT: Note that there does not seem to be a check on the actual presence of vehicles in the unit - US Army units can strat move on roads even if they have few vehicles.
Alfred clarified this a while back. Vehicles don't matter. It's based on nationality and the US Navy is considered a nationality for this purpose.
I sent quite a few Seabees to China only to learn they can't exploit the road network the way an army engineer unit can.
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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent
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I predict that J3's carriers will make their last stand at Bikini Atoll.
+1
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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent
Once the good IJN destroyers and cruisers enter the surface fray it’s a good bet the CV’s are preparing themselves for Interment somewhere far away. John has some BB’s left too I believe. I expect they will soon try and break through to something somewhere
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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent
With all of those airfields, it doesn't make sense for you to have your entire Carrier Fleet tied to a single location. You should have more than enough to detach a very powerful force to escort your supply convoys - and leave plenty of surface forces to deal with John's remaining assets.
I would recommend creating a second Death Star for your supply convoys - and do it immediately.
I would recommend creating a second Death Star for your supply convoys - and do it immediately.
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