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I think there is an RCS issue on most if not all ground units. Their RCS is much smaller than their size. For instance a Topol TEL has a 2dBsqm RCS from all angles. That's only 1.6 square meters for a 16-wheel truck, and it's also smaller than the RCS of the missile it is carrying!

It results in ground vehicles that are virtually impossible to detect with radar. I had an RQ-180 and a B-2 orbit over a S-400 and their radars did not pick up anything.

I noticed that after the last update as well - GMTI still works fine, but against stationary targets they're utterly useless. This might be intended behavior; I'll have to research ground-search radars to figure it out first. (SAR can produce a FLIR-like picture, which is great, but that just boils down to "FLIR that works through clouds." For fast area search I'd expect a different mode that counts on vehicles and their boxy surfaces being better RF reflectors than the average tree, bush and hillside. More research needed, etc.)

I think you can have large coverage with SAR if the radar is designed for it, it's what satellites do for instance. I would not be surprised if reconnaissance assets like the RQ-180 could do it too. I think the B2 is designed to hunt TELs so it must also have the capability.
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Where can I find the document with what has been suggested so far?
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Please increase the range of weapon #3480 9M729 SSC-8 to 1350nm, and create a nuclear-armed version( I propose to use the warhead #541, the same as the kh-102). Currently the range in the DB is 270nm, so it is not in violation of the INF treaty, contrary to all reports on it.

sources:
https://www.wsj.com/articles/pentagon-m ... 9?mod=e2tw

table from the article if the access is restricted:
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Are you really proposing to change the specs of the weapons basing on beliefs and newspaper speculations?!
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You think the Russians are going to tell us the range of the thing and confirm it violates the INF treaty?

Also the "newspaper speculations" are shared by the US DoD and independent think tank like CSIS.
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I think that's all are speculations based on "anonymous sources".


P.S. And BTW, i'm Russian.
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Hi there! Here I am, with new requests for the Portuguese Air Force! As usual, my requests have been sourced to the best of my abilitiy, although many sources are in portuguese.
Here we go!

- Aérospatiale Puma SA.330H (’79-’88)

- SA.330C upgraded with an Omera ORB-31 radar, inflatable floatation devices and a winch for SAR missions.

Sources:
https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/A%C3%A9ro ... A-330_Puma
http://www.operacional.pt/sud-aviation-sa-330-puma/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A%C3%A9ro ... A_330_Puma

- Aérospatiale Puma SA.330S (’88-’06)

- SA.330H upgraded with Turbomeca Makila 1A1 turbines.

Sources:
https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/A%C3%A9ro ... A-330_Puma
http://www.operacional.pt/sud-aviation-sa-330-puma/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A%C3%A9ro ... A_330_Puma

- EH-101 Merlin SAR (’06-…)

- Acquired in 3 versions: SAR, CSAR and Fisheries Surveillance.
- SAR version has primary and secondary winch, emergency floats, 2 internal life rafts (each 14 person capacity) and night vision capacity
- Engines: 3 x Rolls-Royce Turbomeca RTM 322-MK 250
- Sensors:
--- Radar: belly-mounted MM/APS-717 (360º coverage)
--- FLIR: Star Safire II
--- Visual: Searchlight
- Communications:
--- HF: Elmer SRT-170/M6
--- VHF: Elmer SRT-651/N-SH
--- UHF: Elmer SRT-651/N-SH

Sources:
http://www.emfa.pt/www/aeronave-17-agus ... 101-merlin
https://comum.rcaap.pt/bitstream/10400. ... 0ALVES.pdf
https://www.flightglobal.com/news/artic ... ts-156496/
http://www.microwavejournal.com/article ... lian-radar
https://comum.rcaap.pt/bitstream/10400. ... lidade.pdf

- EH-101 Merlin CSAR (’06-…)

- Acquired in 3 versions: SAR, CSAR and Fisheries Surveillance.
- CSAR version has, in addition to the equipment of the SAR version:
--- Aerial refuelling probe
--- MWS: AN/AAR-54
--- RWR: Sky Guardian 2000
--- Counter-measures: AN/ALE-47

Sources:
http://www.emfa.pt/www/aeronave-17-agus ... 101-merlin
https://comum.rcaap.pt/bitstream/10400. ... 0ALVES.pdf
https://www.flightglobal.com/news/artic ... ts-156496/
http://www.microwavejournal.com/article ... lian-radar
https://comum.rcaap.pt/bitstream/10400. ... lidade.pdf

- FIAT G.91 R/3 (’76-’93)

- Identical to the FIAT G.91/R1 (#1649), except in the following:
- Should have 3 VINTEN F95 Mk.3 reconnaissance cameras pointed front, left and right
- 2 x DEFA 552 30mm cannons instead of the Browning M3 12,7mm machineguns
- Has 4 external pylons
- In 1980 all Portuguese G.91Rs underwent upgrades in OGMA that allowed them to carry the AIM-9B
- Missing loadouts:
--- 4 x AIM-9B
--- 2 x AIM-9B + 260l drop tank
--- 4 x LAU-32/A (7 x FFAR Mk.40 each)
--- 2 x GP 500 lbs + 4 x GP 110 lbs bombs
--- 2 x GP 500 lbs + 2 x GP 250 lbs bombs
--- 4 x 250 lbs bombs
--- 2 x 300l Napalm bomb
- Other known weapons:
--- Mk20 Rockeye
--- Mk81 Snakeye
--- BL755 cluster bomb
--- 110/250/500/750 lbs GP bombs

Sources:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiat_G.91
http://walkarounds-blog.blogspot.pt/201 ... t-g91.html
http://www.passarodeferro.com/2008/11/f ... mento.html
http://www.passarodeferro.com/2008/11/p ... iat-2.html
http://www.passarodeferro.com/2008/11/p ... iat-3.html
http://asasdeferro.blogspot.pt/2017/07/ ... -gina.html
http://www.airvectors.net/avamx.html
http://www.avialogs.com/en/aircraft/ita ... 91-r3.html
https://pt.scribd.com/doc/174079220/War ... -Fiat-G-91
http://thecombatworkshop.blogspot.pt/20 ... im-9b.html
http://www.emfa.pt/www/po/maisalto/conteudos/artigo.pdf

- FIAT G.91 R/4 (’66-’93)

- Identical to the FIAT G.91/R1 (#1649), except in the following:
- Should have 3 VINTEN F95 Mk.3 reconnaissance cameras pointed front, left and right
- Has 4 external pylons
- In 1980 all Portuguese G.91Rs underwent upgrades in OGMA that allowed them to carry the AIM-9B
- Missing loadouts:
--- 4 x AIM-9B
--- 2 x AIM-9B + 260l drop tank
--- 4 x LAU-32/A (7 x FFAR Mk.40 each)
--- 2 x GP 500 lbs + 4 x GP 110 lbs bombs
--- 2 x GP 500 lbs + 2 x GP 250 lbs bombs
--- 4 x 250 lbs bombs
--- 2 x 300l Napalm bomb
- Other known weapons:
--- Mk20 Rockeye
--- Mk81 Snakeye
--- BL755 cluster bomb
--- 110/250/500/750 lbs GP bombs

Sources:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiat_G.91
http://walkarounds-blog.blogspot.pt/201 ... t-g91.html
http://www.passarodeferro.com/2008/11/f ... mento.html
http://www.passarodeferro.com/2008/11/p ... iat-2.html
http://www.passarodeferro.com/2008/11/p ... iat-3.html
http://asasdeferro.blogspot.pt/2017/07/ ... -gina.html
http://www.avialogs.com/en/aircraft/ita ... 91-r4.html
http://www.airvectors.net/avamx.html
https://pt.scribd.com/doc/174079220/War ... -Fiat-G-91
http://thecombatworkshop.blogspot.pt/20 ... im-9b.html
http://www.emfa.pt/www/po/maisalto/conteudos/artigo.pdf

Corrections to the database:

#1649 – G.91 R/1 Gina

- Should have 3 VINTEN F95 Mk.3 reconnaissance cameras pointed front, left and right
- When carrying the AS-20 missiles, 2 guns are removed to install the missile guidance system
- Missing loadouts:
--- 2 x GP 500lbs bombs
--- 2 x AS-20 missiles
--- 2 x 300l Napalm bombs

Sources:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiat_G.91
http://www.avialogs.com/index.php/aircr ... craft.html
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File ... 91R_DX.jpg
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Hi, Can I request to add for new Japanese ships?
DD-119 Asahi(minor change version of DD-115 Akizuki) from 2015
Asahi-class destroyer focused on ASW mission, so some functions of FCS-3 omitted.

Akizuki's FCS-3A MFR Changed to OYP-1 It decrease the number of control ESSMs
The sonar OQR-3 changed to OQR-4
The engines change to LM2500IEC x2

I'm sorry about I'm not good English writer, but that's all information I could find.
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I have some requests regarding Israeli platforms.

Delilah
The Delilah missile is missing the ability to perform a bearing-only launch. It's a loitering munition with datalink that is designed to find targets mid-flight, so it seems odd that you'd need a precise target(without a too big ambiguity) just to launch it. Plus it supports GPS/INS guidance IRL (like a JDAM)

Also, what's the difference between the Delilah and the Delilah-AL weapons? Both are air-launched and have the same stats.

AGM-142F Popeye IIR
It only exists in the F-15D variants(year 2000+), but it's missing in the F-15I variants(which are the latest dual seat variants),
and all dual seater F16's variants (D,DG,I) from 1995+ (see "F16 popeye" on google images)
It's also missing from the F-4E Kurnass 1994, and Kurnass 2000 variants. See "F-4e kurnass popeye" on google images

Like the Delilah, it's missing a bearing-only launch ability, despite the missile supporting INS guidance + datalink.

F-35I
I'm speculating here because it'll only be operational in 2019, but anyway:

It's missing the ability to carry GBU-39 SDB's, which Israel already fields on their latest F15/F16's and thus are likely to use on the F-35 as well.

Also, all non US F-35s seem to lack OECM. Not sure if it's an oversight or not, but the F-35I will have unique Israeli electronic warfare systems[/link], which should be reflected ingame as having DECM/OECM. See 'F-35 Lightning Israeli procurement' on wikipedia

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Post by eleos »

I was watch a video about the other candidate of JSF programm the X-32.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhgkAxwOfFI

Suddenly I come up with the idea to ask from devs to put Χ-32, maybe under the designation F-32, into DB3K.

I don't know whether is the correct thread or not.
But as long as there is YF-23, Raptor's opponent, I think that devs should give X-32 the chance to fight, the chance that didn't have in real life
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Missiles for Australia


Australia will receive the AIM-120D AMRAAM to equip its fleet of F/A-18s, F-35s and EA-18Gs.

http://www.dsca.mil/major-arms-sales/au ... r-missiles


Among others, the RANs new Hobart-class destroyers will carry the SM-2 Block IIIB missiles.

http://www.navyrecognition.com/index.ph ... siles.html
http://www.dsca.mil/major-arms-sales/au ... missiles-0

Thanks for considering!
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Tall Rack Radar Update

An effort to untangle the different versions of this radar with their specific in-service dates.


#1616 - Radar (Tall Rack [55Zh6-1 Nebo UYe])

Name:

- Radar (Tall Rack [55Zh6-1 Nebo UYe])[/b] --> Radar (Tall Rack [55Zh6U Nebo U]) (1)

Date:

- Serial production started in 1994, first deliveries to the Russian Armed Forces by 1995 (2)


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#1644 - Radar (Tall Rack [55Zh6-1 Nebo UYe])

Appearant export variant of 55Zh6U Nebo U used by Vietnam. (4) Vietnamnese online sources mention the radar system as 55Zh6UE Nebo-UE. Google translates Небо-УЕ as Nebo-UYe...

Name:

- Radar (Tall Rack [55Zh6-1 Nebo UYe]) --> Radar (Tall Rack [55Zh6UE Nebo UE])

Sensors / EW:

- Replace #2522 Tall Rack [55Zh6-1 Nebo UYe] with #3820 Tall Rack [55Zh6UE Nebo Uye]


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(Sensor) #2522 - Tall Rack [55Zh6-1 Nebo UYe]

Name:

- Tall Rack [55Zh6-1 Nebo UYe] --> Tall Rack [55Zh6U Nebo U]

Abilities:

- Replace Early 2000s Technology with Early 1990s Technology (No clue how severe such change is to a sensors performance)


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(Sensor) #3820 - Tall Rack [55Zh6UE Nebo Uye]

Name:

- Tall Rack [55Zh6UE Nebo Uye] --> Tall Rack [55Zh6UE Nebo UE]

Abilities:

- Replace Early 2000s Technology with Early 1990s Technology


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Request: Radar (Tall Rack [55Zh6 Nebo])

Can you please add this radar for the Soviets as well as for Russia. Altough the 55Zh6U replaced the basic 55Zh6 as the principle version of this system, some low-priority radar sites still operate with the 55Zh6 well into the 2010's.

Date:

- 55Zh6 Nebo entered service with the Soviet PVO in 1987 (3)


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(1)(2)(3) http://bastion-karpenko.ru/55zh6um/
(4) http://www.almaz-antey.ru/catalogue/mil ... 53/281/645

Dankeschön! [;)]
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I've made a mistake in my previous post regarding the P-3P Orions for the Portuguese Air Force! I attributed to them the wrong kind of radar!
I've edited my original post, but here's the corrected version (changes in italicized bold):

#1236 – P-3P Orion

- Service years: 1989 - 2011

- Aircraft belongs to Air Force, not Navy

- Systems should be equivalent to P-3C Update II.5 (except radar and ESM)
--- Radar: AN/APS-134
--- MAD: AN/ASQ-81
--- ESM: AN/ALR-66A(V)3
--- IRDS: AN/AAS-36
--- Sonobuoy Receiver: AN/ARR-72(V)
--- HF: AN/ARC-161
--- VHF: AN/ARC-197
--- UHF: AN/ARC-143B

- Missing loadouts:
--- AGM-84D Harpoon
--- Mk82/83/84 bomb
--- Mk54 depth charge

Sources:
http://www.p3orion.nl/variants.html
http://walkarounds-blog.blogspot.pt/201 ... orion.html
http://www.p3orion.nl/poaf.pdf
http://www.p3orion.nl/p-3cupdateavionics.pdf
http://www.kiwiaircraftimages.com/orion.html

#2660 – P-3P Orion

- Service years: 1991 - 2011

- Aircraft belongs to Air Force, not Navy

- Systems should be equivalent to P-3C Update II.5 (except radar and ESM)
--- Radar: AN/APS-134
--- MAD: AN/ASQ-81
--- ESM: AN/ALR-66A(V)3
--- IRDS: AN/AAS-36
--- Sonobuoy Receiver: AN/ARR-72(V)
--- HF: AN/ARC-161
--- VHF: AN/ARC-197
--- UHF: AN/ARC-143B

- Missing loadouts:
--- AGM-84D Harpoon
--- Mk82/83/84 bomb
--- Mk54 depth charge

Sources:
http://www.p3orion.nl/variants.html
http://walkarounds-blog.blogspot.pt/201 ... orion.html
http://www.p3orion.nl/poaf.pdf
http://www.p3orion.nl/p-3cupdateavionics.pdf
http://www.kiwiaircraftimages.com/orion.html
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Please Add Buddy store loadout to the
Rafale fighter jet and the Mig-29M / Mig-35 Fighter jets

Add Mig-29m2/35 to Egypt's Airforce
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ORIGINAL: Gypsy661

Please Add Buddy store loadout to the
Rafale fighter jet and the Mig-29M / Mig-35 Fighter jets

Add Mig-29m2/35 to Egypt's Airforce
It was reported twice since January here and here, but at least we have plenty of Hypothetical US units!

Another interesting loadout for M/M2.

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2 Kh-38M
2 R-77
1 PTB-1500 Fuel tank.
1 T-220 Pod
2 Decoy launchers

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Youtube

#508 must be able to launch Kalibr from his 6 tubes, not only from 2.
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#508 must be able to launch Kalibr from his 6 tubes, not only from 2.
636.3 loadout in the game is rather messy.
What do we know about 636.3 tubes: 6x533mm, but only 2 of them have guide-by-wire equipment.
That's why they are divided into 4+2 tube sets in the game. That's why only 2 tubes can fire wire guided TEST-71 torpedo.
But Fizik-1 topredo is wire guided too and for some reason in the game it can only be fired by those 4 tubes that have no guiding equipment. Probably IRL all tubes can fire Fizik-1 and TEST-71 topredos but only 2 tubes allow guiding these torpedos mid-course. In the game a datalink is associated with a torpedo, not with a mount. So in the game Fizik-1 fired from any tube can be wire-guided.

That said, we have 2 tube loadout variants:
1. Strict: mid-course guidance capable torpedos can be fired from the tubes that have guiding equipment only.
2. Free: all 6 tubes are the same and can fire wire-guided torpedos.

I think 1st variant is the most realistic. In my opition loadout should be like this:
2x533m tubes: Fizik-1, 3M54, 3M14, 91R, USET-80, DM-1 mines
4x533m tubes: 3M54, 3M14, 91R, USET-80, DM-1 mines
Notes: TEST-71 torpedos are not used by RU Navy anymore according to Russian wiki [1], KILO subs can carry 24 DM-1 mines (2 per tube + 12 inside submarine), according to wiki pages of specific 636.3 subs they can use 91R1 anti-submarine rockets (for example, here). standard 636.3 sub loadout is 4 kalibr missiles+14 torpedos or 24 mines.
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I have a vague database request, based on recent proposals to handle the North Korean missile developments:

Could we get a generic air-launched boost-phase missile defense weapon? The range should be short, < 200km, and the weight high to represent physical constraints on the weapon.
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China type 055 request:

Please change hangar to accommodate 2 medium or large aircraft (instead of small)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_055_destroyer
https://thediplomat.com/2017/06/china-l ... destroyer/
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