Resurrection of Dutch forces

[jwolf]

Curious about this. I'm playing Allies against the Japanese AI, currently in February 1944. For a long time I had a list of 166 destroyed ground units -- I believe all from the Dutch -- that could not be rebuilt. But recently I invaded Java and have now liberated about 1/3 of the island at the western end, following a successful campaign which liberated the entirety of Sumatra. Suddenly all those old destroyed units are eligible to be rebuilt, if I want to spend the points doing so. I am assuming this is not a good idea, due to empty pools, except possibly for a few very special units.

I am wondering what is the trigger in the game that reactivates these units -- date? territory? Something else?

[crsutton]

Dunno what the trigger is but there is really very little reason to reactivate them. They are weak and have no source of replacements. You do get a very decent Dutch mixed infantry armor unit in late 44 (arrives in the US). This unit is US equipped and has replacement. About the only one that you will want to fool with.

[btd64]

Never heard of that happening before....GP

[BBfanboy]

I assume the trigger is like Chungking in China. If you re-take the "national base" or designated alternative, it is possible for replacement troops to arrive and therefore you can buy out the unit as a seed to build on.
I don't know what the Dutch can get in their pools but they have a couple of armoured units (one is Mobiele something) that might be able to take Stuart tanks. Worth a look at the Dutch pools and TOE upgrade path.

[AcePylut]

One thing I think you can do is extract a small part of a KNIL regiment for a very low PP cost, stick them somewhere in the rear and let them draw replacements that the Dutch get throughout the war. I think it will build up to a weak 125ish AV unit that can be useful for holding a rear location. It's too late for your match, obviously, but in future games...

[AcePylut]

I have a question - if I pay the PP to turn a base in Oz, for example, to Dutch control... once the DEI is under Japanese possession, can you resurrect Dutch units at the Dutch base in Oz?

[Xargun]

ORIGINAL: AcePylut

I have a question - if I pay the PP to turn a base in Oz, for example, to Dutch control... once the DEI is under Japanese possession, can you resurrect Dutch units at the Dutch base in Oz?

Usually units can ONLY be resurrected in the Nation Capital.. Tokyo for Japan. not sure for the others as I've never played Allies. Its a hard coded base.

[jwolf]

Maybe it's Batavia for the Dutch. I liberated it about 10-15 days ago in my game.

[witpqs]

ORIGINAL: jwolf

Maybe it's Batavia for the Dutch. I liberated it about 10-15 days ago in my game.

I think that is it.

[jwolf]

Many of the units are very cheap to buy, just 1 or 2 points. I'll probably buy a few of them just for flavor as a sort of role playing element.

[btd64]

If you check the pools there might be enough devices to create a unit. Or 2....GP

[Rafid]

According to the Manual (section 16.6) the Dutch bases in question are: Tjilitjap and Soerabaja

I think the base forces are most interesting for resurrection, they mainly consist of "international devices" like (air/naval) support and engineers.

[witpqs]

ORIGINAL: Rafid

According to the Manual (section 16.6) the Dutch bases in question are: Tjilitjap and Soerabaja

I think the base forces are most interesting for resurrection, they mainly consist of "international devices" like (air/naval) support and engineers.

Yup, not Batavia!

[geofflambert]

It might be worth it if there are garrisons needing to be filled. Never had to deal with that.

[jwolf]

OK that explains it as I just got Tjilitjap. I'm surprised that that base was chosen over Batavia, but I won't argue.

[btd64]

Early in the war if you rebuild a Dutch LCU, Tjilitjap or whatever, Is were Dutch rebuild units always show up....GP

[Chris21wen]

You can partially rebuild BF, engs and sup are global.