Climb Mt. Niitaka - Xargun vs Mr Kane

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RE: Dec 8th, 1941

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So Nagasaki has a size 120 repair shipyard, but 30 of it needs repaired. Do you guys repair it ? Or don't think its a wise use of 30k supplies. Right now I'm leaning towards not repairing it, but wondered what the consensus is ?
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RE: Dec 8th, 1941

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I would not ... If I was going to build up a repair yard Hiroshima maybe, but not Nagasaki ...


edit: I need to really emphasize the maybe ... I rarely ever build anything except Tokyo if needed for CS conversions (if I do those).
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RE: Dec 8th, 1941

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Not sure about Nagasaki...I don't know the mod, what are the other shipyards on the HI?

Your sub mines are usually the powerful you have, and some of your subs lay minefields at Bataan if you don't change their orders...usually they get swept by an alert Allied player.

Gotta love 800 kg hits if they penetrated.

Good luck now that you are off and running.

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RE: Dec 8th, 1941

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Not sure about Nagasaki...I don't know the mod, what are the other shipyards on the HI?

Your sub mines are usually the powerful you have, and some of your subs lay minefields at Bataan if you don't change their orders...usually they get swept by an alert Allied player.

Gotta love 800 kg hits if they penetrated.

Good luck now that you are off and running.

Hiroshima has size 100
Tokyo has size 100

Thanks for the luck... I have a feeling I will need it

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Dec 9th, 1941

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A slow turn as the Imperial troops march onward. Fierce storms on and around Luzon limit my air strikes, but recon seemed to fly fine spotting numerous Allied TFs lingering around. I am guessing he is finally sending his PTs after my landings in northern Luzon.

My troops will land at Legaspi next turn, and the mini KB and a surface force is escorting. Hopefully the mini KB will do something this turn as storms prevented it from doing anything last turn [:@]

Kwangchow decided to join the Japanese Empire last turn and my troops captured Nauru Island and Vigan. Last turn we captured Tarawa and Kota Bharu and Aparri.

I forgot what a pain the first month of the war is.. I am short on all sorts of aircraft and my factories will take a month or two to build up to what I want. I even turned on the Sonia Factory as I need bombers to fill out units and cannot increase factories fast enough.

A couple allied Merchies were sunk - including one via a surface action near Aparri. The Dutch subs go on the scoreboard and hit a transport loaded with troops.. It is trying to make it back to Cam Rahn Bay, but not sure it will.

Allied planes attempted to attack my landings at Vigan but my CAP from Laoag intercepted them shooting down a single P-26. I need to get some zeros to Luzon so I can actually shoot down allied planes. These Nates just don't cut it.
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RE: Dec 9th, 1941

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ORIGINAL: Xargun

These Nates just don't cut it.
no they don't, but for the first 90 days I never have enough zero's.
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Dec 10th, 1941

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A Bad day for the IJN...

MALAYA Theater

Dutch subs attack and sink 2 transports full of men on their way to Malaya near Saigon. I have ordered all PBs in the area into ASW efforts and assigned some air groups to search
as well. I have targeted the sub hexes and vectored fleets around them - I so love the waypoint system.

The Troop buildup in Malaya is continuing and troops are moving deeper into British lands. Kota Bharu now has some light bombers and some fighters flying from its airfields.


Philippines

A TF of MTBs attacked the Vigan landings at night and one MTB was sunk and no IJN ship damaged. Unfortunately the landing TF retreated away and did not continue unloading in
the day phase [:@]

More Seagulls attacked my landings in Luzon, but this time one was shot down by flak after landing a 100 lb bomb on TB Tomozuru.

I now have two groups of zeros in Luzon protecting my landings, so the next air strike against them should have some losses.

The single air strike I managed against numerous TFs in the Philippines consisted of 6 Betties and they missed an xAK and PG with their torpedoes. Once again the mini KB
refused to launch any strikes.. wtf??? The whole purpose of the mini KB being there was to sink fleeing ships and for two days they have done nothing... I moved them a couple
hexes hoping for better weather. I have taken the Netties off of night air attacks and set them up for Naval attacks, targeting the Philippine area. I am hoping they can make
up for the lackluster performance of the mini KB.


Wake

My landings at Wake finally arrived unfortunately to be welcomed by air attacks from the NE of Wake. Apparently Mr Kane sent at least 2 CVs to greet my landings and they were
outside my sub screen so I had no idea they were there. The air attack sunk 2 xAKL, 1 xAK and 2 PBs all but wiping out the 53rd Naval Guard. A few men made it ashore but the
automatic shock attack crushed them. I have one ship with a remnant left on them and the TF is fleeing, hopefully they will get away, but not sure.

This is upsetting as I had considered cancelling the whole Wake invasion until the returning KB could cover it.


Borneo

At Miri, some troops were landed but PBYs struck at the landing at Miri, hitting an xAK unloading troops. I have spotted an allied TF of 7 ships to the east. Without better
identification, I have pulled the landing fleet away from Miri and set some Netties to attempt to attack. I am also vectoring in the Kota Bharu covering force of BBs into the
area for support.


China

My troops have finally reached Hong Kong and I ordered a bombardment this coming turn and stood down all bombers in the area. The following turn (providing the bombardment
goes good) I will attack with full air support.



Overall not a great day, but I did get a reminder that Mr Kane will be aggressive and hopefully the lessons from the failed attack at Wake will stay with
me for a long while.

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RE: Dec 10th, 1941

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ORIGINAL: Xargun
Dutch subs attack and sink 2 transports full of men on their way to Malaya near Saigon.

A TF of MTBs attacked the Vigan landings at night and one MTB was sunk and no IJN ship damaged. Unfortunately the landing TF retreated away and did not continue unloading in the day phase

More Seagulls attacked my landings in Luzon, but this time one was shot down by flak after landing a 100 lb bomb on TB Tomozuru.

Apparently Mr Kane sent at least 2 CVs to greet my landings and they were
outside my sub screen so I had no idea they were there.
These are all classic Mr. Kane ... aggressive, but in orginal ways ...
ORIGINAL: Xargun
I now have two groups of zeros in Luzon protecting my landings, so the next air strike against them should have some losses.
Maybe, but he will be able to see those, so ....
ORIGINAL: Xargun
Overall not a great day, but I did get a reminder that Mr Kane will be aggressive and hopefully the lessons from the failed attack at Wake will stay with me for a long while.

This is what you need to be careful about ... don't over react, that is exactly what he is trying to get you to do. Get you to move out of your plan ... causing delays in this manner, not the normal way. causing you to burn extra fuel and supply ... etc. don't react, be proactive. Tough to do.

Look at each step here early, you are very predictable in that the IJ has to do a number of things. He know that. Then, look at what 'wrench' he can throw at you and try to have the counter in place. You make your guesses by what you know he has available and what you haven't seen ... that's what he will use ...
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RE: Dec 10th, 1941

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The Saigon to Singers area is very vulnerable to subs early on, and some of your best transports are there & not very well escorted. A lot of my starts I keep the ships in port till I get adequate protection from Saigon and north.

Raiding the Wake area or Rabaul area are the two classic early CV moves for the Allies.

Another to look out for is the Boise setting up to patrol and raid convoys to and from Truk and the HI. This one can really hurt...I can't remember if it is a NYGiants trick or Bullwinkles...but boy it can be nasty.

All invasions in the DEI are vulnerable to ABDA forces.

You must really naval search...you have a lot of tools to throw the naval search with from Iboats (glens), to CVs, to patrol planes and float planes.

Also watch out for raids from surface ships disbanded into smaller ports. Recon as much as you can and switch around the targets.

Mr. Kane knows what you are going for....so you will not surprise him most likely.

If I were you, I would look to assemble as much as you can and take Palembang. His airforce isn't much of a threat, but his surface ships are...I try to get there ASAP, because you can bet your bottom dollar there are a lot of Allied troops heading there...especially the Singers reinforcements most likely. Get some I boats on the west side of Sumatra down low. There is quite a few troops you can pull for this invasion.

To me, taking Palembang very quickly is the highest priority. Another priority is getting supply into Miri for rebuilding the oil...it takes lots. Be careful here as right now the Allies can send surface ships there from the east and the west.



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RE: Dec 10th, 1941

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ORIGINAL: PaxMondo
ORIGINAL: Xargun

More Seagulls attacked my landings in Luzon, but this time one was shot down by flak after landing a 100 lb bomb on TB Tomozuru.

Apparently Mr Kane sent at least 2 CVs to greet my landings and they were
outside my sub screen so I had no idea they were there.
These are all classic Mr. Kane ... aggressive, but in orginal ways ...
Yes, aggressive and original. But Hitchcock predicted it.

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RE: Dec 10th, 1941

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ORIGINAL: witpqs

Yes, aggressive and original. But Hitchcock predicted it.

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lol - my only question is where do they carry the bombs ?
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RE: Dec 10th, 1941

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ORIGINAL: PaxMondo
Look at each step here early, you are very predictable in that the IJ has to do a number of things. He know that. Then, look at what 'wrench' he can throw at you and try to have the counter in place. You make your guesses by what you know he has available and what you haven't seen ... that's what he will use ...

yeah. I am changing / holding all further 'stock' invasions until I can assemble the proper escorts - all these SCs and PBs are useless. They are even using AMc as escorts - no way, I'm sending them back home to be converted into something more useful. I start with something like 60 AMc and don't need that many. At least half of those are being converted to more useful ships - mostly PBs.

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RE: Dec 10th, 1941

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ORIGINAL: witpqs

ORIGINAL: PaxMondo
ORIGINAL: Xargun

More Seagulls attacked my landings in Luzon, but this time one was shot down by flak after landing a 100 lb bomb on TB Tomozuru.

Apparently Mr Kane sent at least 2 CVs to greet my landings and they were
outside my sub screen so I had no idea they were there.
These are all classic Mr. Kane ... aggressive, but in orginal ways ...
Yes, aggressive and original. But Hitchcock predicted it.

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This was great ! Good stuff.
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RE: Dec 10th, 1941

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ORIGINAL: Xargun

ORIGINAL: PaxMondo
Look at each step here early, you are very predictable in that the IJ has to do a number of things. He know that. Then, look at what 'wrench' he can throw at you and try to have the counter in place. You make your guesses by what you know he has available and what you haven't seen ... that's what he will use ...

yeah. I am changing / holding all further 'stock' invasions until I can assemble the proper escorts - all these SCs and PBs are useless. They are even using AMc as escorts - no way, I'm sending them back home to be converted into something more useful. I start with something like 60 AMc and don't need that many. At least half of those are being converted to more useful ships - mostly PBs.


there is a stock invasion somewhere out of the PI that has a loaded tanker in it![:D]
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RE: Dec 10th, 1941

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there is a stock invasion somewhere out of the PI that has a loaded tanker in it![:D]

Yeah I found that one... unfortunately it was after it landed the troops... Fortunately I was able to separate the TK and send it home without losing it. There are several xAKs unloading in malaya that are carrying fuel as well. Not sure why.

I need to stop rushing and take the time to set them all up correctly and make sure I have a sufficient covering force. I've been rushing my orders to get an additional turn in daily so I need to stop that.

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RE: Dec 10th, 1941

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ORIGINAL: Xargun

I've been rushing my orders to get an additional turn in daily so I need to stop that.

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RE: Dec 10th, 1941

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ORIGINAL: Xargun

I've been rushing my orders to get an additional turn in daily so I need to stop that.

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Some days its hard to resist pushing turns so I can get my industry going... other days its not that hard to resist.

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Dec 11th - Dec 20th update

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Its been a few days since I posted and we have been doing turns. It is now Dec 21st and not a whole lot is going on. I am still moving troops from the Home Islands, as well as Saigon, Cam Ranh Bay, Samah, etc...

Malaya

I have taken the following bases in Malaya so far and have troops slowly marching down three avenues:

1: Left Coast
Have taken Victoria Point and Alor Star. Troops waiting at Alor Star for reinforcements before moving on to Taiping. Recon cannot confirm the base is occupied or not.

2: Middle
Chasing retreating troops from Kota Bhaur down the rail towards Temuloh. Recon suggests at least 1 unit guarding Temuloh.

3. Right Coast
Very slow moving down the trails to Kuantan. It might be more efficient to load troops and just land them there as I plan on doing at Mersing in a week or so.

I'm still moving some troops into Malaya via sea, but many or coming overland via rail from Saigon - eliminating the Dutch sub threat completely.


Borneo

Miri fell Dec 11th and zeros are patrolling the skies there to protect the oil - not sure if Mr Kane would strat bomb the oilfields or not with B-17s, so I have to be cautious here. I have
a bunch of supply at Miri and am repairing the oil fields.

Kuching and Singkawang both fell on the 20th. Once Sinkawang is repaired and I have fighters flying from there I will invade Palembang. I just loaded a division of troops for the assault
and it will take a week or so for them to arrive in theater. I am moving the Kaga CV-group back to rearm ordnance and they will join with Zuiho fresh from supporting the Singkawang landings
to provide CAP for the Palembang operation. The Division is loaded onto AMCs / APs so they should unload quickly - biggest worry is a damn Dutch sub hitting one of them on the way there.


Philippines

Landings continue at Vigan and Aparri as my troops slowly move south. I am using a lot of recon in Luzon and it looks like Mr Kane is going to fight at Clark Field and then fall back to Bataan.
A pretty normal defense. I am spending some recon assets on Bataan as well now and am brewing a half-baked plan but it probably won't happen. It relies on a mistake by Mr Kane and I doubt he will
make many - especially this early.

I have captured San Fernando and Tuguegarao in the north and Legaspi and Naga in the south.

We have fought a few naval battles around the Luzon, but by ships seems unable to hit the fast, small PTs and MTBs he is using. Good thing is he isn't hitting me with anything either.


Wake & Central Pacific

I last reported on his CVs hammering my Wake invasion force and he has finally finished off the remainder of men on the island. I was able to land a piece of the unit at Eniuwetok and now just need
to pick it up from there and move it somewhere safe so it can rebuild. I'm guessing 3-4 months for it to rebuild [:@]
South Pacific

I spotted his CVs moving south from Wake and I have cleaned out the Marshall Islands of all non essential shipping. I also rushed the KB back into the area but I think he spotted the KB approaching
and fled - his CVs have disappeared now. Wherever they are, I'm guessing all 3 are together somewhere (possibly Pearl) and are waiting to upgrade his aircraft.


China

Not much going on here, its slow going and I'm still worting out my garrison requirements and moving units into the correct location to handle all garrisons and give me the most units to attack with.

Hong Kong has no forts left and I plan on another deliberate attack on the 22nd with full air support and I'm hoping I can take the base. All troops there are resting at the moment.


Manchukuo

I have gone through most of this theater and moves all non-essential units to my staging points of Fusan and Port Arthur. All artillery and Armor went to Port Arthur and will be slowly bought out for use
in China and other places (RF Guns will go to Burma or select islands for anti-tank defense). All engineers and air support have been moved to Fusan for purchase and deployment elsewhere. While they wait in
Fusan, I have them enlarging the port and Airfield there.


Miscellaneous Observations:

I have spotted several of Mr Kane's spoiling attacks and prepared a warm greeting for them, only for him to pull back. Either they were bluffs all along, or he is being very
cautious and if his ships get spotted he retreats. Its a shame, several times I was ready for his TF of Cruisers only for them to run away.
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Dec 20th, 1941

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Davao

While returning to Babeldaob from unsuccessfully hunting ships with a Cruiser force, I decide to bombard Davao before retiring. I don't like returning
with full ammo [:D] The TF consisted f 4 CAs and 4 DDs. I had no idea that I would find a ton of merchant ships hiding.


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After the first fight, the allied ships fled and I ran into them again !! It was a good battle for once that went my way.


Initial Fight:

Night Time Surface Combat, near Davao at 79,91, Range 8,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CA Aoba
CA Kinugasa
CA Furutaka
CA Kako
DD Oboro
DD Uzuki
DD Kikuzuki
DD Yuzuki

Allied Ships
xAKL Kwangtung
xAKL Lee Sang
xAKL Oriskany
xAK Ping Wo, Shell hits 3, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
xAK Taiyuan, Shell hits 5, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
xAKL Bordvik
xAKL Proteus
xAKL Belawan, Shell hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAKL Benkalis, Shell hits 1
xAKL Benkoelen
xAKL Boelongan
xAKL Duijmaer van Twist
xAKL Sigli, Shell hits 7, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAKL Silindoeng, Shell hits 3, heavy fires
xAKL Sinabang, Shell hits 5, and is sunk
xAKL Van Diemen
xAKL Loa Koeloe, Shell hits 5, heavy fires

Second Encounter:

Day Time Surface Combat, near Davao at 80,92, Range 24,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CA Aoba
CA Kinugasa
CA Furutaka
CA Kako
DD Oboro
DD Uzuki
DD Kikuzuki
DD Yuzuki

Allied Ships
xAKL Kwangtung, Shell hits 9, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAKL Lee Sang, Shell hits 11, and is sunk
xAKL Oriskany, Shell hits 5, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAKL Bordvik, Shell hits 7, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAKL Proteus, Shell hits 3, on fire
xAKL Benkalis, Shell hits 3, and is sunk
xAKL Benkoelen
xAKL Boelongan, Shell hits 2
xAKL Duijmaer van Twist, Shell hits 7, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAKL Van Diemen, Shell hits 3, on fire

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Dec 21st - Dec 22nd, 1941

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A couple of slow turns with not much action going on. An IJN sub put a torpedo into an allied CM (Dutch I believe by he name) and got reports that it sank near Palembang.

My troops at Ichang repulsed a Chinese Shock attack (usually this attack pushes me out) and mauled one of the Chinese units in the attack. I am moving reinforcements into the base and rebuilding the forts. I am also turning some air assets against the Chinese troops there.

I have begun my ship conversion plan in several major HI ports this turn. I have a list and am marking off the ships as I convert them so I can track what I have converted or not. In all 40 xAKs and xAKLs are under conversion (My full plan is below).

I am working out my ship building plan as well, but am racking my brain on which ships to halt and which to accelerate. Comments / suggestions are welcome.


Conversion Plan:

The usual plan plus some modifications due to being a 'Babes' scenario.

xAK:

Husimi class: Start with 25 with 2 in the queue. Convert to: 3 AS, 4 AV, 10 AR and 10 AK
Ansyu-C class: Start with 52 with 5 in the queue. Convert all to PB
Lima class: Start with 46 with 0 in the queue. Convert to: 4 AKEs (Largest AKE - 4900 capacity)
Akasi class: Start with 57 with 3 in the queue. Convert to: 4 ADs


xAKL:

To'su class: Start with 36 with 1 in the queue. Convert to: 15 ACM and rest (22) to PB
Kuijira class: Start with 9 with 9 in the queue. Convert all to PBs when conversion is available
Kiso-E class: Start with 77 with 0 in the queue. Convert to: 20 AG and the rest (57) to PB


AMc:

Not sure if you can do this in stock, but in DBabes you can convert the AMcs to other ships as well. So I am.

To'su class: Start with 28 with 15 in the queue. Convert all to PB
Kuijira class: Start with 25 with 13 in the queue. Convert all to PB


PB:

Kiso class: Start with 31 with 0 in the queue. Converting 57 giving me a total of 88
Ansyu class: Start with 54 with 0 in the queue. Converting 57 giving me a total of 111
To'su class: Start with 34 with 0 in the queue. Converting 65 giving me a total of 99
Kuijira class: Start with 0 with 14 in the queue. Converting 56 giving me a total of 70
Ha'chi class: Start with 0 with 40 in the queue. Converting 0 giving me a total of 40
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