Rumble in the Southwest witpqs-A vs Andav-J 2011-11-29 to 2017-02-08
Moderators: wdolson, MOD_War-in-the-Pacific-Admirals-Edition
RE: 1945 July 25
Here are the top pilots. Flying for the empire was a tough job. The navy guys think their job was tougher.
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RE: 1945 July 25
Here is the Industry over view. Other then supplies, the real problem was Vehicles. Naval and Merchant shipyards were turned off a long time ago. Oil/Fuel from the SRA dried up in early 1944. There was a trickle through Fusan but for the most part, I lived on what I banked.
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RE: 1945 July 25
Here is the in game version.
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RE: 1945 July 25
The end of RnD for aircraft.
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RE: 1945 July 25
Here is air productions. Kids ... Do not try this at home!
I am the first to admit, my late war planning was very poor. Many factories were destroyed by firestorms as well so the numbers are smaller then originally built. Still, my production needed a LOT of work.
This is post 1 of 2.
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RE: 1945 July 25
Here is post 2 of 2 of air production.
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RE: 1945 July 25
Here is a shot of Tokyo on the final day of the war. Notice forts 2. In an "Oh Crap" moment, I realized I never built forts in Tokyo. I never really looked at it. I just assumed it had forts.
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RE: 1945 July 25
Here are aircraft pools remaining. Not a lot here. Everything else was under 50. One of my biggest challenges late was upgrading older aircraft. That is one of the reasons Nates and A6M2s were still about. The Japanese get a lot of training groups late. They usually have 10 aircraft but can hold a ton of pilots. They can only train or be turned into Kamikazes. Most come with the K5Y1 Willow biplane so they really need to be upgraded. I was perplexed by these.
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RE: 1945 July 25
That's an impressive -- or depressing?? -- list showing how thoroughly the IJN was destroyed!
I can use the old cliche, "I left everything on the field!" In the end, you are fighting battleships with PB and MTB. I actually had some success with MTBs late in the war.
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RE: 1945 July 25
Here is the list of ground reinforcements. Not much left in the next 30 days.
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RE: 1945 July 25
Not much left coming in the air either. Most of these are training groups I talked about before.
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RE: 1945 July 25
Here are the ships left in the queue. Most I did not choose to build because they come so late. I would do this differently as well next time. I might try to get the CVs. I did build both Musashi and Yamato because the Historical Player in me thought it was the right thing to do. I would probably scrap them next time in favor on the CVs.
Musashi died on a torpedo hit followed by a magazine explosion. Yamato got its arse kicked by Richelieu.
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RE: 1945 July 25
Let me know if you want to see anything else. All my dirty laundry is out there. If I missed a pair of socks somewhere, let me know.
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RE: 1945 July 25
Just for grins, I dug out my receipt for WitP: AE. I paid $84.83 for a digital download plus physical copy on July 27th, 2009. This was my 3rd game. One did not last long. One lasted until 1943. This game went into 1945. Just looking at this game, we played 1328 turn from Nov 2011 to Feb 2016. If I spent an average of 1 hour on the turn (I actually think this is about right since even in the end, I would spend 45 minutes a turn), that is 1328 hours of entertainment. So about 0.06 cents per hour just for this game. That is cheap entertainment. While my ASL kit costs a lot more, I have more hours invested since I have played for over 25 years. When I buy a new game, I always comment to my wife that I could play golf or something instead.
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RE: 1945 July 25
[X(]ORIGINAL: Andav
Here is a shot of Tokyo on the final day of the war. Notice forts 2. In an "Oh Crap" moment, I realized I never built forts in Tokyo. I never really looked at it. I just assumed it had forts.
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The Emperor was mooning me! [:D]
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RE: 1945 July 25
I have been lurking only for some time as my own "conflict" at sea has unraveled completely. Thank you for a very insightful AAR.
When I get around to posting my own demise (as allies [X(] ) it will be hard not to compare, right from wrong. I will say that as
my own situation FUBAR, I followed George and landed on Luzon and Leyte and quickly made the bridge to CRB as well. Alas, for me
it is November '45.
When I get around to posting my own demise (as allies [X(] ) it will be hard not to compare, right from wrong. I will say that as
my own situation FUBAR, I followed George and landed on Luzon and Leyte and quickly made the bridge to CRB as well. Alas, for me
it is November '45.
RE: 1945 July 25
Thanks! [:)]ORIGINAL: zuluhour
I have been lurking only for some time as my own "conflict" at sea has unraveled completely. Thank you for a very insightful AAR.
When I get around to posting my own demise (as allies [X(] ) it will be hard not to compare, right from wrong. I will say that as
my own situation FUBAR, I followed George and landed on Luzon and Leyte and quickly made the bridge to CRB as well. Alas, for me
it is November '45.
Walter and I are planning to review/discuss some of the battles here. Quite a number of "Later on I'll have to find out what he saw/planned" thoughts occurred to both of us. If you just finished the AAR, any particular one you would like to start with?
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RE: 1945 July 25
Great news...
Strategic bombing...what steps did Andav take to limit it and how worried was he. How much did it cause a dispersion of forces? How much did it really hurt?
Strategic bombing...what steps did Andav take to limit it and how worried was he. How much did it cause a dispersion of forces? How much did it really hurt?
RE: 1945 July 25
I am unsure if this is active ?
I do have two questions for both players.
Follow up from Lowpe albeit specific...
1) Strategic bombing of oil supplies in the DEI circa mid 1943 ....
Seriously wounded Witpqs Bomber reserves even on towards late game... was Andav aware ? Witpqs was pretty skinny for a while in heavy bombers. Could knowledge of that changed your strategy ?
Seriously hampered Home Island resources ??!!.... as Andav just quoted above oil from DEI dried up in early 1944... was Witpqs aware ? Would have you changed your attack vector from CRB if you were aware ?
2) Battle of Truk
The Battle of Truk was very long and drawn out. Countless audiance gasps at how long it took even in game terms.
The major carrier battle occurred on page 37.The invasion of Truk is mentioned.
By page 41 August 1 1943 Truk is invaded. By page 47 Sept 20 1943 its beginning to wind down Forts = 0
By page 48 Sept 28 Truk was won.
WitPqs was cycling INF divisions on and off island as they got beat up. Cycled in an entire unplanned INF DIV to get the job done. Carrier and CVE support hung around for a substantial period of time.
Japan still controlled Wolei Island.
In hindsight would have General Andav counter punched with more or even "everything" at Truk ? A fast surface combat raid verses carriers and troop ships? Planes? More subs?
In hindsight despite the strategy to hold all key spots on a vector line and clean up afterwards... would Witpqs bypass next time ? It may have frankly delayed victory by over 2 months and relatively speaking was the troop cost worth it ?
I do have two questions for both players.
Follow up from Lowpe albeit specific...
1) Strategic bombing of oil supplies in the DEI circa mid 1943 ....
Seriously wounded Witpqs Bomber reserves even on towards late game... was Andav aware ? Witpqs was pretty skinny for a while in heavy bombers. Could knowledge of that changed your strategy ?
Seriously hampered Home Island resources ??!!.... as Andav just quoted above oil from DEI dried up in early 1944... was Witpqs aware ? Would have you changed your attack vector from CRB if you were aware ?
2) Battle of Truk
The Battle of Truk was very long and drawn out. Countless audiance gasps at how long it took even in game terms.
The major carrier battle occurred on page 37.The invasion of Truk is mentioned.
By page 41 August 1 1943 Truk is invaded. By page 47 Sept 20 1943 its beginning to wind down Forts = 0
By page 48 Sept 28 Truk was won.
WitPqs was cycling INF divisions on and off island as they got beat up. Cycled in an entire unplanned INF DIV to get the job done. Carrier and CVE support hung around for a substantial period of time.
Japan still controlled Wolei Island.
In hindsight would have General Andav counter punched with more or even "everything" at Truk ? A fast surface combat raid verses carriers and troop ships? Planes? More subs?
In hindsight despite the strategy to hold all key spots on a vector line and clean up afterwards... would Witpqs bypass next time ? It may have frankly delayed victory by over 2 months and relatively speaking was the troop cost worth it ?
A People that values its privileges above it's principles will soon loose both. Dwight D Eisenhower.