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Screenshot of Olustee squadrons.

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Like I said, I'm not really worried about this because I think the carrier is operating properly. So I don't mean to generate lots of speculation. If it happens, though, that one of you have seen this before, let me know what if anything you know. :)
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Don't think it is the problem source, but Olustee's "normal" complement is 90 A/C and 10% extra is +9 for a total of 99. Going to 100 as you have means there is a penalty to ops, but it is supposed to just be a bit of fragmentation until you get to 15% over complement (when ops will cease).
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Always a map never a satnav. That way you get to find much more interesting places than the one you were originally planning to visit. Maps are for the curious, satnav for the incurious. The following is a quote by John Buchan about my great uncle Cecil who had explored Papua New Guinea and been one of the first europeans to visit Lhasa at the beginning of the last century. He was killed at Ypres in 1917 commanding an infantry brigade

'He was always slightly lost; therefore he could never be completely lost, whether in Tibet or on a Flanders battlefield. That is perhaps the reason why he was so successful an explorer and so good a soldier. The man who insists on having the next stage neatly outlined before he starts will be unnerved if he can not see his way. Cecil drove on cheerfully into the mist, because he had been there so often before and knew that somewhere on the farther side was clear sky.'
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My versions of RA do not have a CV Olustee listed.
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You do, but she's named Yorktown II or the like.

I renamed my three "-II" Essex class CVs, the first to Olustee, the second to Sumatra and the third to Petersburg (later changed to Ceram, given game developments).

I wish I could rename the various other ships named for "WWII" battles that haven't occurred in my version of WWII: Savo Island, Marcus Island, Tulagi, etc.

But I'm very appreciative of the CVE Wake Island!
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Another thought on the problem with display of aircraft complement - some screens do not update until the turn is run, so making a change and looking at it before hand will not reflect the change. I am not sure if that applies in this case but other screens (like bases showing newly-landed NS or AS) do have this lag.
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Regarding China, I've had a general idea of what I plan to do there for a long time, both land war and air war.

I've built Sian to level 7 airfield, partly with the idea of using it to bomb Japan when the right time comes. But China's supply situation can't handled a major, prolonged bombing campaign (I think). So the goal will be to force John to allocate fighters to Japan as soon as possible.

(I think the Allies seriously considered using China airfields in a major way during the war, though eventually scaling that back due to supply.)

On the land war, that depends on developments yet to come.

Well China was in play for the US but supply and political issues put a damper on that. Even more important is that the Allies were having such great success approaching Japan from the Pacific and PI that in the end they just deemed that it was not worth the effort to use China. The relationship between Stillwell, Chaing (Stillwell called him Peanut) and Chennault is well worth reading about. Chennault is looked upon as a hero by many but his effort to undermine Stillwell in China merited a court marshal. A good book on the subject is "Forgotten Ally" by Rana Mitter.
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Do VR squadrons act as normal squadrons when not in a Replenishment TF?
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FWIW; In my RA game, none of the CV TF's have the correct number of planes on the TF mouse over/TF screen[these numbers are identical]. All of them are off, to the actual number. It doesn't matter if the TF was in combat or not or adding repl or not.
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Do VR squadrons act as normal squadrons when not in a Replenishment TF?


I think so. I typically use VR fighter squadrons as fighters on carriers and haven't ever noticed a problem in that regard. (With rare exceptions, I find that carrier battles are decided on day one, so that maximizing CAP is far more important than having the ability to draw replacements.)
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Do VR squadrons act as normal squadrons when not in a Replenishment TF?


I think so. I typically use VR fighter squadrons as fighters on carriers and haven't ever noticed a problem in that regard. (With rare exceptions, I find that carrier battles are decided on day one, so that maximizing CAP is far more important than having the ability to draw replacements.)

Do you change out the pilots or hold hte squadrons back to train them up? I find that the VR pilots are quite substandard compared to regular USN pilots. It would seem that using them as is would just bolster your opponents kill ratio.
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I swap out the pilots if there are better ones in reserve. Here are the pilots of VRF-17F (usually based on Olustee). They're very good, though lagging in defensive skills.

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Nice... use them for CAP and others with better defensive skills for escort.

BTW: in my last PBEM my three "II" designated carriers became the Constellation, Chesapeake and Manassas. I have yet to need to come up with a fourth name. I also tend to wish that I could rename those CVEs that have been named for battles that have not happened in my game but am not sure if I could come up with enough names for them all!
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I tend to bring forward carrier names, currently have Oriskany, Constellation, Valley Forge and Kitty Hawk in the fleet as well as CA's Chatanooga and Gettysburg
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Mine are boring. Pearl Harbor, Stonewall Jackson, Valley Forge, and (another) Enterprise to replace the first, sunk in the first week of the war.

I have more fun with the cruiser and DD names. A lot of old girlfriends and ex-wives.
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What about the USS Angry Moose, USS Playful Moose, and USS Supple Moose.

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What about the USS Angry Moose, USS Playful Moose, and USS Supple Moose.

Moose Class DDs rule the seas!

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For months, I've had a CV TF that on a particular screen shows substantially less aircraft than it really has. All the carriers in this TF were under maximum plane load and none were carrying "invalid" aircraft (like the F4U). So all "looked right." But each time I clicked on the "See All Task Forces" button on the lower left hand side of the screen it underreported this TF.

There were two fighter squadrons on her and both had low fatigue (3 and 5). Their range settings are "0", so I think they were indeed flying CAP.

Today I tested each carrier independently and isolated the troublemaker - USS Olustee (a re-named Essex class). She had 99 aircraft in four squadrons. All aircraft types were eligible. I pulled off one squadron at a time and she still underreported on the button. When she had no squadrons left, I sent a TBF with 9 aircraft (from a CVE). This time she reported "0" aircraft.

I don't think there's any problem with Olustee. I think she's flying normal ops. But the underreporting has me a bit spooked. I'd hate to steam into battle with one carrier not flying ops.

Anyone run into anything like this before?

I'll post a screen or two from a few turns back to show the problem.

I've give it a run of the turn to see if it just needs to recalculate the display.
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We all know that CVs fly half CAP in a base hex but that CVEs fly full CAP. Questions:

1) Do CVEs have to be in a CVE Escort TF to fly full CAP in a base hex?
2) Or can CVEs in a Carrier TF (that only has CVEs, no CVs) fly full CAP?
3) Or, if CVEs are embedded with CVs in a Carrier TF, will the CVEs still fly full CAP?

I think 1) is "no," 3) is "no," and I think, but I'm not sure, that 2) is "yes."
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