How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR
How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR
As my old mum used to say "If at first you don't succeed - set yourself up for another humiliation at the hands of the AI"....
So here we are for Round 2!
- Yours truly as the Allies
- Same optionals and preferences.
So here we are for Round 2!
- Yours truly as the Allies
- Same optionals and preferences.
Now Maitland, now's your time!
Duke of Wellington to 1st Guards Brigade - Waterloo 18 June 1815
Duke of Wellington to 1st Guards Brigade - Waterloo 18 June 1815
RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR
First things first. One of the features I would ask the designers to change is that, as the Allies, you don't get to see your Polish troops in all their glory before Case White is launched. It would be nice for there to be a pause button for a number of reasons - and this is one.
Anyway, here is the Polish set up on 31st August 1939. The Poles are broadly deployed as per actual. There were roughly seven armies lined up along the northern, western and southern borders. Although the deployment looks poor, in reality the Poles had little choice. The set-up was designed to delay the Germans, thus allowing mobilisation to be completed and industrial areas to be protected.
In the northeast is a KOP garrison in Wilno. In reality the KOP (Korpus Ochrony Pograniczawere) were border guards that were spread out along the eastern frontier with the Soviet Union.
31st August 1939
Anyway, here is the Polish set up on 31st August 1939. The Poles are broadly deployed as per actual. There were roughly seven armies lined up along the northern, western and southern borders. Although the deployment looks poor, in reality the Poles had little choice. The set-up was designed to delay the Germans, thus allowing mobilisation to be completed and industrial areas to be protected.
In the northeast is a KOP garrison in Wilno. In reality the KOP (Korpus Ochrony Pograniczawere) were border guards that were spread out along the eastern frontier with the Soviet Union.
31st August 1939
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Duke of Wellington to 1st Guards Brigade - Waterloo 18 June 1815
Duke of Wellington to 1st Guards Brigade - Waterloo 18 June 1815
RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR
Following with interest and if you need an opponent when multi-player is working, I'll be happy to take up the challenge and run some parallel AAR's.
RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR
Good luck. Tried starting an allied game myself, decided the game was stupid, so now I am going to play some WoT instead [:D]
Terje
"Hun skal torpederes!" - Birger Eriksen
("She is to be torpedoed!")
("She is to be torpedoed!")
RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR
When you can, build a Soviet engineer and start building forts at Leningrad
If you do the landing at Narvik option, attack with the French first.
If you do the landing at Narvik option, attack with the French first.
Watched a documentary on beavers. Best dam documentary I've ever seen.
RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR
Looking forward to round 2! [:)]
I agree that a pause button would be nice. Or at least that we have to actually start the turn (for the Axis).
I often thought about how I would have defended Poland if I had been in charge. It seems like an almost impossible task, given the lay of the land.
I agree that a pause button would be nice. Or at least that we have to actually start the turn (for the Axis).
I often thought about how I would have defended Poland if I had been in charge. It seems like an almost impossible task, given the lay of the land.
RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR
Warspite,
Looking forward to another fun AAR.
Bill,
Put me down for a pause button to stop AI turns when needed to capture screen images or simply review the results of a battle. I also think the end of turn and beginning of turn messages should require a click to make go away, not a time delay. I miss many of them because I can't keep focus on the game 100% of the time. Life does exist outside of the game.
Thanks,
Malor
Looking forward to another fun AAR.
Bill,
Put me down for a pause button to stop AI turns when needed to capture screen images or simply review the results of a battle. I also think the end of turn and beginning of turn messages should require a click to make go away, not a time delay. I miss many of them because I can't keep focus on the game 100% of the time. Life does exist outside of the game.
Thanks,
Malor
RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR
Good luck! Give em hell! [;)]
RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR
ORIGINAL: terje439
Good luck. Tried starting an allied game myself, decided the game was stupid, so now I am going to play some WoT instead [:D]
Terje
whats your game name for tanks? [:D]
RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR
ORIGINAL: marky
ORIGINAL: terje439
Good luck. Tried starting an allied game myself, decided the game was stupid, so now I am going to play some WoT instead [:D]
Terje
whats your game name for tanks? [:D]
Same as here, EU server.
Terje
"Hun skal torpederes!" - Birger Eriksen
("She is to be torpedoed!")
("She is to be torpedoed!")
RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR
Looking forward to another AAR good luck to you commander, In my game against the Axis AI I'm planning a Mediterranean strategy for the western Allies I've let GER have Norway and didn't help France out too much however I've built up my forces in the western desert and I've started to send troops to help the Greeks
The battle of Medjerda is almost forgotten,but was fought against highly disciplined German troops and blasted a route straight to Tunis it was a perfect infiltration battle and should be remembered as the best fought British battle of the war.
RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR
Good Luck Warspite, my copy is under the tree so watching and learning.
RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR
EGYPT
Learning from my last game, there will be no stupid adventures toward Libya with Wavell's 30,000.
The plan will be to form a defensive line anchored on the Quattara Depression in the south and a little known watering hole by the name of El-Alamein on the coast. I will try and build fortifications if and where possible to try and hold up any Axis advance.
The Mediterranean Fleet will need to be built up if I am going to take on the Regia Marina and protect Malta.
Mediterranean Fleet (Admiral Andrew Cunningham)
CV: Glorious, Courageous
BB: Warspite (Flagship), Barham
CL: 3rd Cruiser Squadron: Arethusa, Coventry, Galatea, Penelope
SS: 1st Submarine Flotilla
Army
H.Q Major-General Richard O’Connor
Western Desert Force (Army)
XII Corps
31st August 1939
Learning from my last game, there will be no stupid adventures toward Libya with Wavell's 30,000.
The plan will be to form a defensive line anchored on the Quattara Depression in the south and a little known watering hole by the name of El-Alamein on the coast. I will try and build fortifications if and where possible to try and hold up any Axis advance.
The Mediterranean Fleet will need to be built up if I am going to take on the Regia Marina and protect Malta.
Mediterranean Fleet (Admiral Andrew Cunningham)
CV: Glorious, Courageous
BB: Warspite (Flagship), Barham
CL: 3rd Cruiser Squadron: Arethusa, Coventry, Galatea, Penelope
SS: 1st Submarine Flotilla
Army
H.Q Major-General Richard O’Connor
Western Desert Force (Army)
XII Corps
31st August 1939
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Duke of Wellington to 1st Guards Brigade - Waterloo 18 June 1815
Duke of Wellington to 1st Guards Brigade - Waterloo 18 June 1815
RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR
Malta
Previously I replaced the AA unit for a Garrison. I don't know if there was any merit in that - but I guess if Malta becomes the target of attack it will be initially from the air. I therefore intend to keep this unit in situ.
The navy I intend to send to Alexandria initially in order to keep the Mediterranean Fleet concentrated.
Royal Navy
CA: 1st Cruiser Squadon: Devonshire, Kent, Shropshire and Sussex
DD: 1st Destroyer Flotilla
Army
1st Malta Defence Brigade
31st August 1939
Previously I replaced the AA unit for a Garrison. I don't know if there was any merit in that - but I guess if Malta becomes the target of attack it will be initially from the air. I therefore intend to keep this unit in situ.
The navy I intend to send to Alexandria initially in order to keep the Mediterranean Fleet concentrated.
Royal Navy
CA: 1st Cruiser Squadon: Devonshire, Kent, Shropshire and Sussex
DD: 1st Destroyer Flotilla
Army
1st Malta Defence Brigade
31st August 1939
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Duke of Wellington to 1st Guards Brigade - Waterloo 18 June 1815
Duke of Wellington to 1st Guards Brigade - Waterloo 18 June 1815
RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR
Gibraltar
The naval units are considered part of the Mediterranean Fleet and will move to Egypt accordingly.
Royal Navy
BB: Ramillies, Malaya
BB: Royal Sovereign, Resolution
Army
101st Infantry Brigade
31st August 1939
The naval units are considered part of the Mediterranean Fleet and will move to Egypt accordingly.
Royal Navy
BB: Ramillies, Malaya
BB: Royal Sovereign, Resolution
Army
101st Infantry Brigade
31st August 1939
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Duke of Wellington to 1st Guards Brigade - Waterloo 18 June 1815
Duke of Wellington to 1st Guards Brigade - Waterloo 18 June 1815
RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR
United Kingdom (North)
The United Kingdom has so few units at this stage of the war - mostly a hard pressed, much put upon and increasingly obsolescent Royal Navy. Not sure of what is going where yet....
Royal Navy
Home Fleet (Admiral Sir Charles Forbes) (Scapa Flow)
CV: Ark Royal, Furious
BB: Nelson (Flagship), Rodney
CC: Hood, Repulse
CL: 18th Cruiser Squadron: Aurora, Belfast, Edinburgh, Sheffield
SS: 2nd Submarine Flotilla (Rosyth)
CL: 2nd Cruiser Squadron: Birmingham, Glasgow, Manchester, Southampton (Rosyth)
CA: 12th Cruiser Squadron: Effingham, Emerald, Norfolk, Suffolk (Glasgow)
CV: Hermes, Eagle (Liverpool)
DD:1st Destroyer Escort Flotilla (Liverpool)
Army
102nd Infantry Brigade (Belfast)
31st August 1939
The United Kingdom has so few units at this stage of the war - mostly a hard pressed, much put upon and increasingly obsolescent Royal Navy. Not sure of what is going where yet....
Royal Navy
Home Fleet (Admiral Sir Charles Forbes) (Scapa Flow)
CV: Ark Royal, Furious
BB: Nelson (Flagship), Rodney
CC: Hood, Repulse
CL: 18th Cruiser Squadron: Aurora, Belfast, Edinburgh, Sheffield
SS: 2nd Submarine Flotilla (Rosyth)
CL: 2nd Cruiser Squadron: Birmingham, Glasgow, Manchester, Southampton (Rosyth)
CA: 12th Cruiser Squadron: Effingham, Emerald, Norfolk, Suffolk (Glasgow)
CV: Hermes, Eagle (Liverpool)
DD:1st Destroyer Escort Flotilla (Liverpool)
Army
102nd Infantry Brigade (Belfast)
31st August 1939
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Duke of Wellington to 1st Guards Brigade - Waterloo 18 June 1815
Duke of Wellington to 1st Guards Brigade - Waterloo 18 June 1815
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United Kingdom (South)
Royal Navy
BB: Revenge, Royal Oak (Chatham)
CA: 7th Cruiser Squadron: Cornwall, Dorsetshire, Exeter, York (Portsmouth)
CC: Renown, Valiant (Portland)
DD: 2nd Destroyer Escort Flotilla (Portland)
Royal Air Force
Bomber Command (Oxforshire)
Advanced Air Striking Force (Wiltshire)
No.11 Fighter Group (South East England)
Army
103rd Infantry Brigade (London)
31st August 1939
Royal Navy
BB: Revenge, Royal Oak (Chatham)
CA: 7th Cruiser Squadron: Cornwall, Dorsetshire, Exeter, York (Portsmouth)
CC: Renown, Valiant (Portland)
DD: 2nd Destroyer Escort Flotilla (Portland)
Royal Air Force
Bomber Command (Oxforshire)
Advanced Air Striking Force (Wiltshire)
No.11 Fighter Group (South East England)
Army
103rd Infantry Brigade (London)
31st August 1939
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Duke of Wellington to 1st Guards Brigade - Waterloo 18 June 1815
Duke of Wellington to 1st Guards Brigade - Waterloo 18 June 1815
RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR
Concentrating the mediterranean fleet (Gibraltar ships included) at Alexandria is what I do too. I'm always tempted to even include a few more ships from the North Sea, but it's not a good idea to thin out forces too much as the Germans can scrape more ships together than one may think.
Also everybody leaves the AA unit on Gibraltar. It's EXTREMELY unlikely that the AI invades there.
Also everybody leaves the AA unit on Gibraltar. It's EXTREMELY unlikely that the AI invades there.
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French North Africa + Southern France
The French have a large colonial army - that I completed neglected to do anything with in the last game. Not sure on the transport capacity, but the 3 corps, one in each of Algeria, Tunisia and Syria, are going to be headed for Metropolitan France asap!
French Navy
Forces de Haute Mer (Rear-Admiral Rene-Emile Godfroy (Toulon)
BB: Provence (Flagship) Bretagne
CL: 4th Cruiser Squadron: Emile Bertin, Jean de Vienne, La Galissoniere, Marseillaise
SS: 4th Submarine Flotilla
CA: 1st Cruiser Squadron: Algerie, Colbert, Dupleix and Foch (Oran)
Army
XV Corps (Nice)
Naval Garrison (Toulon)
CSTT Tunisia Corps (Tunis)
XIX RM Algeria Corps (Algiers)
Syrian Corps (Damascus)
31st August 1939
The French have a large colonial army - that I completed neglected to do anything with in the last game. Not sure on the transport capacity, but the 3 corps, one in each of Algeria, Tunisia and Syria, are going to be headed for Metropolitan France asap!
French Navy
Forces de Haute Mer (Rear-Admiral Rene-Emile Godfroy (Toulon)
BB: Provence (Flagship) Bretagne
CL: 4th Cruiser Squadron: Emile Bertin, Jean de Vienne, La Galissoniere, Marseillaise
SS: 4th Submarine Flotilla
CA: 1st Cruiser Squadron: Algerie, Colbert, Dupleix and Foch (Oran)
Army
XV Corps (Nice)
Naval Garrison (Toulon)
CSTT Tunisia Corps (Tunis)
XIX RM Algeria Corps (Algiers)
Syrian Corps (Damascus)
31st August 1939
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Duke of Wellington to 1st Guards Brigade - Waterloo 18 June 1815
Duke of Wellington to 1st Guards Brigade - Waterloo 18 June 1815
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Metropolitan France
I plan to move the French armies out of the Maginot Line and replace them with Corps. I have no illusions that the French are set up to lose - I just need to learn to lose not so quickly......
Army - Field Marshal Maurice Gamelin
First Army Group - General Gaston Billotte
7th Army (Calais)
1st Army (Lille)
9th Army (Reims)
2nd Army (Sedan)
Second Army Group - General Andre-Gaston Pretelat (Maginot Line)
3rd Army
4th Army
5th Army
6th Corps
Third Army Group - General Antoine Besson (Maginot Line)
8th Army
13th Corps
Army of the Alpes - General Rene Olry
6th Army (St Etienne)
14th Corps (Lyon)
GHQ Reserve
1st, 2nd and 3rd Corps (behind 1st Army Group)
9th, 11th and 44th Corps (Behind the Maginot Line)
Reserve Corps (Paris)
Navy
Force du Raid (Admiral Marcel-Bruno Gensoul) (Brest)
BB: Dunkerque (Flagship), Strasbourg
CA: 5th Cruiser Squadron: Duquesne, Dupleix, Suffren, Tourville (Bordeaux)
DD: 3rd Destroyer Flotilla
DD: 7th Destroyer Flotilla
BB: Lorraine, Courbet (Bordeaux)
Air Force
21st Fighter Group
6th Bombardment Group
31st August 1939
I plan to move the French armies out of the Maginot Line and replace them with Corps. I have no illusions that the French are set up to lose - I just need to learn to lose not so quickly......
Army - Field Marshal Maurice Gamelin
First Army Group - General Gaston Billotte
7th Army (Calais)
1st Army (Lille)
9th Army (Reims)
2nd Army (Sedan)
Second Army Group - General Andre-Gaston Pretelat (Maginot Line)
3rd Army
4th Army
5th Army
6th Corps
Third Army Group - General Antoine Besson (Maginot Line)
8th Army
13th Corps
Army of the Alpes - General Rene Olry
6th Army (St Etienne)
14th Corps (Lyon)
GHQ Reserve
1st, 2nd and 3rd Corps (behind 1st Army Group)
9th, 11th and 44th Corps (Behind the Maginot Line)
Reserve Corps (Paris)
Navy
Force du Raid (Admiral Marcel-Bruno Gensoul) (Brest)
BB: Dunkerque (Flagship), Strasbourg
CA: 5th Cruiser Squadron: Duquesne, Dupleix, Suffren, Tourville (Bordeaux)
DD: 3rd Destroyer Flotilla
DD: 7th Destroyer Flotilla
BB: Lorraine, Courbet (Bordeaux)
Air Force
21st Fighter Group
6th Bombardment Group
31st August 1939
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Duke of Wellington to 1st Guards Brigade - Waterloo 18 June 1815
Duke of Wellington to 1st Guards Brigade - Waterloo 18 June 1815